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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]
Do any FKK clubs have shared showers, with the girls showering together with the guys?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blourghus]
Golden Time in Brüggen has co-ed showers, but not co-ed locker rooms IIRC. (This was a while ago for me and I hope things haven't changed.)[/QUOTE]
What I think for Golden Time and Yin Yang is that there are showers reserved for ladies (but probably not enough ) and some of them prefer (I think just for practical reasons, not for the pleasure to have showers in the common place with the Ice bears) to take showers in the common showers room (at least, that means that it's not forbidden according to these houses' rules).

have a look at the end of this post :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=918352&postcount=1116[/url]

Hello,

I've been lurking these message boards for a couple of weeks, in order to gather as much information as I can before making my first post. So that I don't appear to be a total noob ;)

Anyway, I've been thinking about visiting a FKK club in Germany this fall. Apparently the best ones seems to be in the Frankfurt area or Artemis in Berlin, is that correct?

So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.

[QUOTE=Themanbehind]Anyway, I've been thinking about visiting a FKK club in Germany this fall. Apparently the best ones seems to be in the Frankfurt area or Artemis in Berlin, is that correct?

[/QUOTE]

That is absolutely NOT correct! "The best ones" is clearly a matter of personal opinion. For me, personally, "the best ones" are located outside Frankfurt and outside Duesseldorf (the NRW clubs). Whilst Artemis in Berlin does have some positives, I stick my neck out and declare that no serious FKKer in his right mind would list Artemis in the top 5 fkk clubs in Germany. It is certainly within the top 3 most expensive clubs, though.

To my knowledge, a consensus vote would probably have a majority of voices mentioning these (in no paticular order) as their favourite FKK clubs:

Bernd's (Bonn)
Oase (FFM)
World (Giessen)
GoldenTime (M-gladbach-D'dorf)
Palace (FFM)
Living Room (D'dorf)

Maybe I miss a few others...?

Anyway, major factors to consider, again in no particular order, are:

Club Vibe
Girl Approachability
Prevalance of Couch Action
Depth of Line-up/Number of Girls on Offer
General Quality of Service Levels Encountered from Session to Session
Level of Nudity
Cost of Entrys/Session Prices/Costs of Extras

Other factors may be of secondary importance:

Accessibility of Club via Public Transport
Food Quality
Facilities
Cleanliness

This all, of course, my own personal opinion and many other experienced FKK guys, some much more experienced than myself, might indeed disagree with some/all of what i say.

Ortos

[QUOTE=Themanbehind]So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.[/QUOTE]If your choice is either Berlin or Frankfurt, then most would advise you to choose Frankfurt.

Once you are there, you can choose between three big clubs within striking distance (Palace, Oase and World), or several smaller ones. If you use one of the maps which have been posted here, you'll see what is nearby. Your decision may also be influenced by whether you have your own transport, but excellent public transport advice is available on the various threads in any case.

If you don't have German, the big three are generally more international in flavour.

And if you do choose to stick to the bigger clubs there are ample reports on each, upon which to base your decision. Easy, huh?

Ok, thanks.

I sort of counted the ones outside Frankfurt (Oase, World?) as being in the Frankfurt area. I have no problem with renting a car, so if a place is located a bit outside the city center, is of secondary concern.

But all the points you bring up are of course relevant to consider. Obvisouly I want the best value for the money, just as with everything else. The fact that Artemis is among the most expensive, but not all the best FFK, is helpful to keep in mind of course.

However, I'd guess the advantage of Berlin would be that you could easily "blame" the trip on business and/or general tourism reasons, if anyone back home asks. That being said, if the FKK scene there is subpar compared to western Germany, that's the deciding factor for me.

So generally, aside from the price level, are the western clubs also beating Berlin hands down when it comes to the quality of the girls and overall facilites?

To anyone who receives German TV, on Thursday 27th Aug on RTL2, at 23:10 there Is apparently a programme about a fkk club, and a couple of business expert who come to Improve the owners club.

[url]http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/presse.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Themanbehind]
So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.[/QUOTE]

Sticking up for Berlin I would have to say it depends upon what is the main...er....thrust of your journey.

If you are after just a sex vacation and plan on spending all your time in the clubs then my esteemed colleagues are right. Best to land in Frankfurt and have the variety at your fingertips.

If you also want to enjoy some sights & cultural pursuits you might want to consider Berlin. As a city Frankfurt is pretty dry.

Artemis is big and, as noted, expensive. It is perhaps not the best place for a new comer to FKK land to have his first experience. The girls there can be unrelenting with a new comer and you really need to know a few tricks to have a good time.

If you do decide to come to Berlin get in touch and I can provide at least moral support.

[QUOTE=Ortos]That is absolutely NOT correct! "The best ones" is clearly a matter of personal opinion. For me, personally, "the best ones" are located outside Frankfurt and outside Duesseldorf (the NRW clubs). Whilst Artemis in Berlin does have some positives, I stick my neck out and declare that no serious FKKer in his right mind would list Artemis in the top 5 fkk clubs in Germany. It is certainly within the top 3 most expensive clubs, though.

To my knowledge, a consensus vote would probably have a majority of voices mentioning these (in no paticular order) as their favourite FKK clubs:

Bernd's (Bonn)
Oase (FFM)
World (Giessen)
GoldenTime (M-gladbach-D'dorf)
Palace (FFM)
Living Room (D'dorf)

Maybe I miss a few others...?

Anyway, major factors to consider, again in no particular order, are:

Club Vibe
Girl Approachability
Prevalance of Couch Action
Depth of Line-up/Number of Girls on Offer
General Quality of Service Levels Encountered from Session to Session
Level of Nudity
Cost of Entrys/Session Prices/Costs of Extras

Other factors may be of secondary importance:

Accessibility of Club via Public Transport
Food Quality
Facilities
Cleanliness

This all, of course, my own personal opinion and many other experienced FKK guys, some much more experienced than myself, might indeed disagree with some/all of what i say.

Ortos[/QUOTE]

All quite true. The best club for me is the club I have the best time at. Lately, the M to F ratio at some of the top clubs has been causing me to downgrade a couple clubs in my own personal ratings. YMMV

My advise to the newbees is try all of the above. As preferences in clubs and women are highly personal, everyone has to come to their own landing. If you want to venture off the beaten path, I like F39 and Acapulco, but others like other clubs such as Blue Note or Samya.

What is the reputation of Colosseum among German FKK mongers? Am thinking of heading to Munich for Octoberfest this year and would like to stop at Augsburg on my way there from Frankfurt. According to google maps it is about a 3.5 hour trip by car from downtown Frankfurt.

Agree with the assessment of Artemis of not being a top-tiered club. For an 80 euro entrance fee, I expected more than what they had to offer. The culure of Berlin though beats Frankfurt by a wide margin.

Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.

As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;

1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.

Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?

Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jake

[QUOTE=Jake993]Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.

As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;

1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.

Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?

Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jake[/QUOTE]

7 hours is plenty of time. If you can stay past 7pm (it can be pretty slow in the day), I would recommend Palace since that is the closest and can be easily reached on public transport. Otherwise, go to
OASE. A taxi will run about 40E each way. Would be worth it. Public transport is also possible.

[QUOTE=Akibono]7 hours is plenty of time. If you can stay past 7pm (it can be pretty slow in the day), I would recommend Palace since that is the closest and can be easily reached on public transport. Otherwise, go to
OASE. A taxi will run about 40E each way. Would be worth it. Public transport is also possible.[/QUOTE]
I will give it a whirl!!!
Thanks again,
Jake

Hey, Jake, I did exactly the same thing last year. Check out my report...
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=790001&postcount=3239[/url]

If you are coming from the US or Canada, then probably you are arriving in FRA at some ungodly early morning hour. I think Palace does not open until 10:00 am so you have plenty of time for breakfast and even taking the public transit to Palace if you like. You can freshen up in the showers at the Palace - there is no need to hurry getting down to business.

The problem is that you will only get second-stringers during early and mid-day hours, the "A team" does not arrive until much later - at least according to song and legend, I have not experienced this myself. The previous poster says after 7:00 pm, and probably he knows better than I do, but maybe you cannot stay that late. I saw a slight improvement after noon and more talent still arriving around 4:00 pm. So the key thing is to push your departure back as late as possible in order to maximize choice and quality. My mistake was to head back to the airport too early. With a boarding pass and checked baggage I could have cut it much finer and taken advantage of the finer offereings arriving in late afternoon.

But for a first timer, even a mediocre FKK experience is something not to be missed. But I expect you have frequented similar sex supermarkets in Brazil, so maybe not so special for you. Still, in the name of cross-cultural understand you owe yourself the experience....

Enjoy!

GT

[QUOTE=Jake993]Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.

As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;

1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.

Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?

Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jake[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]The problem is that you will only get second-stringers during early and mid-day hours, the "A team" does not arrive until much later - at least according to song and legend, I have not experienced this myself. The previous poster says after 7:00 pm, and probably he knows better than I do, but maybe you cannot stay that late. [/QUOTE]

Hhm, not quite true. There's quite a handful of good service providers during daytime, it all depend on what you prefer. Bee (Thai) is one of the girls with excellent reviews across all boards, and she does work day shift.

And there's more:
Saskia, Germany
Mitsu, Japan (or whatever)
Mona, Romania I have seen during the afternoon
Nicoletta, Romania
Dilara, Turkey - also spotted on early afternoon

Sure line up does get better the later it is and Palace is a "night club", but if you have time - arrive early, take your time, do some wellness, have some (excellent) breakfast.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Hhm, not quite true. There's quite a handful of good service providers during daytime, it all depend on what you prefer. Bee (Thai) is one of the girls with excellent reviews across all boards, and she does work day shift.

And there's more:
Saskia, Germany
Mitsu, Japan (or whatever)
Mona, Romania I have seen during the afternoon
Nicoletta, Romania
Dilara, Turkey - also spotted on early afternoon

Sure line up does get better the later it is and Palace is a "night club", but if you have time - arrive early, take your time, do some wellness, have some (excellent) breakfast.

HB[/QUOTE]

Fully agree. I had three great days in Palace at the beginning of July and as I remember I arrived at about 2PM. As I remember, out of about 10 girls, about half were repeat material for me.

I'll add to HB's list:

Gulchen - Turky
Julia - Ukraine or Russia

Palace during the day has a very relaxed vibe. Check it out.