Jakarta

Re Atrium, there is plenty there and you can also check out the Rukko area behind but YMMV.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]I'd recommend Plaza Indonesia, opposite of Mandarin Oriental.
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Obviously the type of shops . . . and therefore shoppers are different between what is perhaps a 2- or 3-star mall (Atrium) versus a 5-star mall in terms of image. But what I mean by the vibe is that you are not very likely to find many free-lancers hanging around the mall railings and looking down/up/around. Because the mall security in PI is generally onto them pretty quickly. On the other hand, I have had mall security solicit me with "you want girl?" and a business-card to call a provider - so you might consider approaching one of the fellows and asking . . . perhaps slipping him 5 or 10 thousand rupes for his trouble.

A year or so ago I recall posting about spotting the notorious Madam Vina pimping her girls - and I even banged one that I rented from her in PI - but haven't seen much of her lately. Rent-a-poon from Vina-types and her stable are more likely to be spotted OUTside of PI, on the pavement facing the traffic circle. And if you don't see anyone obvious handing out cards, you can probably find success out there simply by asking around.

I have spotted the odd girl in the mall, at the bottom of one or another of the escalators, in an obvious "trolling for business" pose, but that isn't so common, lately. If you want to try your luck INside, then your better bet is to go down to the lowest level of Plaza Indonesia and work the food-court. If you are a good-looking guy, you may have success just cruising through the hall-ways, or parking yourself at one of the coffee-bars . . . starbucks, coffee-bean, dome . . . but according to me, those are low-percentage success scenarios. Bottom floor is best - second best is the extension to PI that stretches out toward the (crappy) new Hard Rock Cafe. There is a fitness club half-way down the extension-mall hallway where I have girl-watched before - one pickup from perhaps a dozen attempts. Worth checking out, but best to have a backup plan.

Aside from free-lancers prowling the mall - not many of those - the strategy of hitting on shop-girls works about as well in PI as most places. The thing you have going for you in many PI stores is low volume of customer traffic, except in a few anchor stores like Sogo. The thing you have going AGAINST you, is that many of the customers are well-heeled and well-dressed, so if you look scruffy, the shop-girls may turn up their noses at you.

The problem with hitting on shop-girls is that it doesn't work so well for "right now", because generally they have to work until quitting time. So consider turning up at PI around quarter-past-nine and hanging in one of the coffee-bars near to an exit. Some of the shops close early, and all of them close by 10 pm. Peak period for employees streaming out of the mall is around 9:45 in my experience, and it's pretty much dead by shortly after 10. If you want a "right now" pickup from a shop-girl, that may be your best shot. But according to me, the best pickings in PI come during the late afternoon and early evening in and around the basement food-court. Not nearly as easy to pull poon out of PI as from Atrium though - the poon is there, but you need a sharper eye in PI. Maybe don't choose Plaza Indonesia for your virgin mall-hunting experience. Just my opinion . . . other comments welcome!

That's my comment - now a question - has anyone ever scored with one of the hot-looking information-counter girls just behind the restaurant in the centre of the PI atrium ? I flirt with them often, and they flirt back, but I've never gotten a serious "hey, hit on me please Mister, vibe" from any of them, so I haven't closed. Hats off to anyone who has done!

Heading back to Jkt after a 10 yr absence. Any one have a simple list of some of the 'more important words' in Bahasa that will help a fellow in his search for some p4p?

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Heading back to Jkt after a 10 yr absence. Any one have a simple list of some of the 'more important words' in Bahasa that will help a fellow in his search for some p4p?[/QUOTE]
Friend, unless you are looking far off the beaten track - for example going to Indramayu to taste pussy direct from the poon-factory (grin) - then you don't really need bahasa Indonesia to pull working girls.

Visit any of the usual places posted about here . . . hotel Travel, Kartika, Berlian, Maribaya, the Blok-M bars on Jalan Falatehan, the big 3 hotel-hooker bars - BATS, CJ's and Tiga Puloh - and many, many others among the pussy-paradise branch outlets of Jakarta . . . and most girls will speak enough English for you to have at least a simple conversation with them. Quite a few will speak English nearly as well as a native-speaker. And even the limited-English "fresh from the kompong" ayams will know why you have come to their poon-purveying-places-of-prostitution. You will be fine even if you remain Indonesian-challenged. That's part of what makes Indonesia such fabulous fun for fucking females.

And if you are serious about learning some local language, just buy yourself a phrasebook (low-end), or a "learn to speak Indonesian" CD-plus-book set for perhaps $30 or so, and work on the basic pleasantries of introductions, finding your way around and - perhaps most important - counting in Indonesian, so you can negotiate price with even a woman without any English. Worst case, you write your offer numbers on a cock-tail napkin - Arabic numerals are universal. And Indonesian is perhaps the easiest language in Asia to learn. For advanced nakal topics - e.g. jembut (pubic hair), itil (clitoris) and so on - part of the service included with any friendly has-a-hole is talking-dictionary. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Obviously the type of shops. And therefore shoppers are different between what is perhaps a 2- or 3-star mall (Atrium) versus a 5-star mall in terms of image. But what I mean by the vibe is that you are not very likely to find many free-lancers hanging around the mall railings and looking down/up/around. Because the mall security in PI is generally onto them pretty quickly. On the other hand, I have had mall security solicit me with "you want girl? " and a business-card to call a provider. So you might consider approaching one of the fellows and asking. Perhaps slipping him 5 or 10 thousand rupes for his trouble.

A year or so ago I recall posting about spotting the notorious Madam Vina pimping her girls. And I even banged one that I rented from her in PI. But haven't seen much of her lately. Rent-a-poon from Vina-types and her stable are more likely to be spotted OUTside of PI, on the pavement facing the traffic circle. And if you don't see anyone obvious handing out cards, you can probably find success out there simply by asking around.

I have spotted the odd girl in the mall, at the bottom of one or another of the escalators, in an obvious "trolling for business" pose, but that isn't so common, lately. If you want to try your luck INside, then your better bet is to go down to the lowest level of Plaza Indonesia and work the food-court. If you are a good-looking guy, you may have success just cruising through the hall-ways, or parking yourself at one of the coffee-bars. Starbucks, coffee-bean, dome. But according to me, those are low-percentage success scenarios. Bottom floor is best. Second best is the extension to PI that stretches out toward the (crappy) new Hard Rock Cafe. There is a fitness club half-way down the extension-mall hallway where I have girl-watched before. One pickup from perhaps a dozen attempts. Worth checking out, but best to have a backup plan.

Aside from free-lancers prowling the mall. Not many of those. The strategy of hitting on shop-girls works about as well in PI as most places. The thing you have going for you in many PI stores is low volume of customer traffic, except in a few anchor stores like Sogo. The thing you have going AGAINST you, is that many of the customers are well-heeled and well-dressed, so if you look scruffy, the shop-girls may turn up their noses at you.

The problem with hitting on shop-girls is that it doesn't work so well for "right now", because generally they have to work until quitting time. So consider turning up at PI around quarter-past-nine and hanging in one of the coffee-bars near to an exit. Some of the shops close early, and all of them close by 10 pm. Peak period for employees streaming out of the mall is around 9:45 in my experience, and it's pretty much dead by shortly after 10. If you want a "right now" pickup from a shop-girl, that may be your best shot. But according to me, the best pickings in PI come during the late afternoon and early evening in and around the basement food-court. Not nearly as easy to pull poon out of PI as from Atrium though. The poon is there, but you need a sharper eye in PI. Maybe don't choose Plaza Indonesia for your virgin mall-hunting experience. Just my opinion. Other comments welcome!

That's my comment. Now a question. Has anyone ever scored with one of the hot-looking information-counter girls just behind the restaurant in the centre of the PI atrium? I flirt with them often, and they flirt back, but I've never gotten a serious "hey, hit on me please Mister, vibe" from any of them, so I haven't closed. Hats off to anyone who has done![/QUOTE]To morepoon

I was at Atrium mall a few month ago for lunch, I only saw a few freelancer and quality is not that great, I remember about 3 yr ago there are many freelancer walking around the mall in group, I did firt with a waitress at pizza hub she is very cute got her phone number but didn't follow up, I was only in town for 4 days on business not much time for hit and miss, I think that go for all the mall in Jarkata it not as good as 3-5 yr ago.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]. . . and most girls will speak enough English for you to have at least a simple conversation with them. [/QUOTE]


the general simple conversation proceeds like:

Hello, what you name?.... you buy me drink?.... where you come from?... how long in Jakarta?... me go with you to hotel, ya?... 500 OK?....

NO

[QUOTE=Non Olet]the general simple conversation proceeds like:

Hello, what you name?. You buy me drink?. Where you come from?. How long in Jakarta?. Me go with you to hotel, ya?. 500 OK?.

NO[/QUOTE] Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]That would be some chat then. " Hi baby how are you. You look hot, lets go to bed, and is it ok if I come on your face with some nice hot cum. By the way if we got to bed how many times can I cum in you / on you. Over you. "

Thats some chat line you got there Brother.

Can you recommend a strategy for mongering during Idul Adha (Nov 26th eve and 27th)?

Based on this news report from last year, it sounds like almost all nightlife venues will be closed ("nightclubs, discotheques, massage parlors, saunas, bars, karaoke venues, live music bars, and pool bars.")

[url]http://thejakartaglobe.com/national/nightspots-to-shut-for-idul-adha/301672[/url]

So what options does that leave?

Previous contacts (I don't have any)
Shopping malls
Hotel in-room massage?

[QUOTE=Dorman]Short answer, yes.

HR Idul Adha is a mini Idul Fitri and has a tendency to screw up plans as it is not widely known about. The bars will shut early on Thursday night (by early I mean about 8 or 9 pm so to all intents and purposes they needn't bother opening) all the bars will be shut on Friday with business as usual resuming on Saturday. This would appear to wipe out a sizeable chunk of your trip, my suggestion would be to work the phones now to line up any old contacts you may have or to collect as many numbers as possible on Wednesday night with promises to call them during the shut down. It's not like Idul Fitri where the girls leave town, they will be around but somewhat harder to locate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry about Bahasa Indonesian. They are WG's and they know more than you do. It's their business.

Unless of course you are planning to rohm the areas that have street walkers.
Very dangerous out there, stick to the high end places that have women of quality???

Enjoy....RL

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]

I believe there is a booklet for those kind of phrases. It was mentioned in this thread a while ago. Maybe others will remember. But, why not use body language. Just simulate the movements. Ad the words "no condom" if you want barebacking.
And, what Robert Long a.o. have written, the girls are WG and they will know. If you do a pickup in one of the better places like BATS, she will understand english.

[QUOTE=Menteng]I believe there is a booklet for those kind of phrases. It was mentioned in this thread a while ago. Maybe others will remember. But, why not use body language. Just simulate the movements. Ad the words "no condom" if you want barebacking.
And, what Robert Long a.o. have written, the girls are WG and they will know. If you do a pickup in one of the better places like BATS, she will understand english.[/QUOTE]

Never had any problems. Every girl understands "no condom" or "blow-job" and a pat on the behind with "mau itu" or "mau pantat" can also not be misunderstood. If you book her for e.g. three hours it is also clear that this is not for two hours cleaning your room. Concerning BBBJ, I have never met a (pro) girl in Indo that really insisted on covered blow job.

NO

To answer your question, I haven't tried Sarinah recently but I have had success there in the past.

In response Moorpoonhound's report, I think he is spot on with all the points he makes. I particularly support the point that being smartly dressed - long sleeve shirt and ideally tie and suit goes a very long way with the (relatively few) girls who are wandering around PI. As for the girls on the info desk in PI on the ground floor, I did report maybe 18 months ago about scoring with one. I used my (slightly embarrassing) sms trick in which I got my friend to send me a text in jakarta slang (but polite) and then asked one of the girls if she could help me to translate as my Bhs indo was not too good. Of course you can use that to convey whatever message you want as well as using it to strike up conversation. The approach can de-risk making contact with girls in coffee bars and I've used it a few times in that context.

There is a small book which I think Menteng may be referring to called "Making out in Indonesian" which has a lot of the slang you don't get in the tourist guide books. But the point has been well made that you don't need any of this stuff in reality if you are trying to score with most pro's as they speak enough English. In any event, I struggle to see why you need to have a discussion in advance (in any language): I've never yet had a girl (i.e. pro) who didn't do everything I wanted, it's just a question of how well they do it and surely nobody is going to try and establish that in advance?

[QUOTE=Bule2004]No need to bring porn DVDs to Indonesia: they are plentiful and cheap (less than $1. 00) at a number of locations in kota, including just outside Glodok on Jl. Hyam Wuruk (at the underpass).

Why bring a sandwich to a smorgasbord?

Bule 2004[/QUOTE]Can someone confirm the prices of the Porn DVDs. I've been buying them from between Pasaraya and Macdonalds and paying 15, 000 ea. Sounds like I've been over paying (I know the std DVDs are on 7, 000 ea)

Thanks