Manila

[QUOTE=Amavida]Been here only a couple of years full time now. Gotta say its no more dangerous than any other big city. Ermita / Malate is a pretty seedy area at night so a little common sense should be used. Situational awareness goes a long way toward personal safety. Walking along the footpath you come across several street people crowding a narrow section what do you do? A) Try to pass between them excusing your self politely or B) Step out on to the roadway well in advance & give them a wide berth?
Correct answer is B. Just observe how the locals instinctively do this.
Walking the streets you are offered a ride by several trike drivers, when you decline they curse you & insult you. Do you A) give them a mouthfull back & get into a verbal altercation or B) Swallow your pride, ignore their taunts & move away quickly but smoothly.
Correct answer B.
You need extra cash from an ATM for that unexpected freeby. Do you A) head to the nearest machine & stick your card in. Or B) look for a machine in an open well lit public area & check no one is loitering/observing?
Correct answer B.

I dont walk about fearful but i do automatically & calmly think about what i am doing.
AV[/QUOTE]
Excellent tips. In addition to using your common sense and situational awareness, your context is important as well. That is, how are you showing yourself? Are you drunk? Moping about the sidewalk because the honey you wanted got away? Not good. Walk with purpose and know where you are going. Always look around so you're letting the bad guys know they won't be able to sneak up on you. Also keep your hands in or close to your pockets when moving through crowds. If you have to use a jeepney, try to sit toward the exit and be aware of everyone on board. I'm not built, I'm rather slender, but while I've had to defend myself against pickpockets on rare occasions (no substitute for awareness there), I've never had a real problem, knock on wood, and I've been in some really dodgy areas around the world.

One more tip: when walking on the sidewalk, don't walk next to the buildings, especially if you can't see into the nooks that provide potential hiding places.

No sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. It's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').

And from what I've been able to gather Manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. Don't kid yourselves.

[QUOTE=Illogic]Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.

I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.

Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)[/QUOTE]

Common sense and situational awareness. Amavida is right. Observe how the locals deals with situations.
I will try to have this in mind when Im going back soon.

[quote=redfield10]no sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. it's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').

and from what i've been able to gather manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. don't kid yourselves.[/quote]in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.
in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who lurks in the city parks.
almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.
av

that's basically my point. i also, however, want newbies to realize that the area around l. a. cafe is, for example, many times more dangerous than walking down sukhumvit in bangkok on average. i'm just not sure that folks who haven't been to the ermita area know that. i know i didn't realize it. i was thinking it was similar to sois 4 to say 11 on sukhumvit. there you may come across a few folks sitting and begging. maybe a couple a block. but it just has a totally different feel to it in addition to being much safer.

[quote=amavida]in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.

in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who lurks in the city parks.

almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.

av[/quote]

Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.

Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.

Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.

Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.

But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.

Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.

Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.

Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.

Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.

Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.

Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.

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That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.

X

Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here".

[QUOTE=Amavida]Been here only a couple of years full time now. AV[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.

X

Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here".[/QUOTE]"Here" as in PI. Clear now X?

[QUOTE=Crazykido]Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.[/QUOTE]
Good first report, sounds like you had fun!

Robb

All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.

Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.

[QUOTE=Crazykido]Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.

Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.

Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.

Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.

But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.

Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.

Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.

Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.

Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.

Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.

Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.

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oh, sorry for assuming you did not live in the philippines....after youonce scolded me for assuming you did live in the philippines. things change...congrats. you lucky devil.

on another topic, can you show us those photos from aff which you suggested are the same as those ap posted. he seemed to be a bit peeved about people suggesting that his photos were posted at aff before he took the photos.

and thanks for posting some of your recent pictures. i enjoyed them.

if you find the time, give us a tagaytay field report. it really is a beautiful place. i found the bus ride to be miserable, though.

x man (currently in japan)


[quote=amavida]"here" as in pi. clear now x?[/quote]

This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.

What was the going rate?

X

[QUOTE=Redfield10]All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.

Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.[/QUOTE]

The upstairs costs a little to enter and it seemed to me that they were virtually ALL P4P girls....albeit very picky. But I had ton hit on me and found very cute ones to take back. Gave 'them between 1500 and 2000 pesos..depending. I probably threw in another 300 for cab if I liked 'them.

I only go with girls I have a great vibe with and it was easy for me to find that upstairs...

[QUOTE=X Man]This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.

What was the going rate?

X[/QUOTE]

Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.

Yeah. I was thinking 150 pesos. So something like that. Upstairs just gives you something else to do, too. And some of the bands are pretty good. Freddie Aguilar was there one night I was there.

And the girls are a step up. Some are downstairs first but the plainer ones from downstairs don't seem to make it upstairs.

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.[/QUOTE]