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Hey guys!

Any inputs here would be really appreciated.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2110002]Hi all,

Arriving in Bangkok after good 5 years. So, very excited.

Last time I visited Climax and Mixx for picking up freelancers who were insanely hot.

Wanted to know what are the places you recommend, especially nightclubs where I can find top notch freelancers? Price is not a concern for me.

Also, which escort agencies provide the top models in Bangkok? Again, am not worried about the pricing, as am looking for best of the best girls in the city.

Thanks much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2110148]Personally I don't see uber-attractive gals in any of the GoGos these days. Poor surgeries abound. Where do I see lookers? Malls and legit nightspot places. So many hot Chinese tourist gals that are just killing Thai gals when it comes to looks and sex appeal. Ass cheeks hanging out of shorts and that nasty gleam in their eyes. Hey, if gals of that quality were available, I would not mind paying the prices that these mediocre GoGo chicks are charging.[/QUOTE]I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2110334]Yea, I agree that the go-go bar girls are not the absolute top tier. But, the girls you see in the mall or riding BTS or wherever have two huge advantages. First, they are wearing clothes that hide their imperfections. Second, they aren't surrounded by 50 other young girls who are also competing for your money.

A few weeks ago I bar fined an above average looking girl from Nana Plaza. She wasn't close to the hottest girl in the bar. Her performance was exceptional, so a couple nights later I used LINE to arrange for her to come to my hotel. I met her outside of my hotel, almost didn't recognize her wearing normal clothes, she looked much better then when she wore bar girl clothes.[/QUOTE]My observation is mostly the opposite of yours. I see them with their clothes on quite a bit since I often have dinner in a location where they walk by on their way to work in the evening. And, of course, we all see them in their street clothes when they leave with a customer. I think they are usually much better looking naked or nearly so in the bars with the sexy lighting or low lighting than they look in their street clothes.

I would agree that we can not make a perfect apples to apples comparison with a girl we see in a mall because that girl is not standing naked next to the go-go girl we saw naked or nearly so previously. But in the harsh light of day and when those go-go girls are walking around outside and riding the bts just like other girls, chances are the sexiest go-go girl you see nearly naked in the bar is not even engendering a second glance among most men on those trains unless, like me, they recognize them from having met them already or something like that. And there is only so far into "ugly" under their clothes the true 9+ girls of Thailand can go unless there is some horrible baby damage and uncharacteristically mis-shapen breasts at a very early age going on under those clothes.

Personally, I am not typically swayed by clothes so much when assessing a girl's beauty and will often point out a mousey looking, dowdy dressed girl in public to my friends as the real blue ribbon winner with the best body compared with the fashion plate posers on hand. And then there are the girls who look terrific in their clothes and there is nothing about what they are wearing that hides what is really going on with their butt, skin, face, weight, proportions, etc. Bear in mind, I am not saying the top tier go-go dancers in any club are actually "ugly", by any means. Just that there is a go-go bar standard of beauty and a regular walking around Thai girl standard of beauty and the latter is quite noticeably higher when you move away from the go-go bars at night and into normal shopping or, let's say family entertainment areas of the city.

btw, I also spent a significant portion of my working life around film/tv actresses and models in the USA. And I am here to tell you there are greater beauties among regular girls on the street than among those professions too. Seriously. What might look great on the other side of a camera lens with the best lighting, make-up and angles at work does not mean that same girl will beat out the girl next door as the one you'd much rather have in your bed.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2110341]I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?[/QUOTE]If a girl in Terminal 21 or any of the other high end malls is an absolute stunner and wearing high end clothes, has a designer handbag, etc. It's pretty likely she is not P4 P. She is probably from a very rich family or has a rich boyfriend. I find Bangkok very different from Jakarta in this respect, in Jakarta you are more likely to find girls in malls who are P4 P, probably not as likely in Bangkok. But that's just my opinion, others may have had different experiences.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2110437]If a girl in Terminal 21 or any of the other high end malls is an absolute stunner and wearing high end clothes, has a designer handbag, etc. It's pretty likely she is not P4 P. She is probably from a very rich family or has a rich boyfriend. I find Bangkok very different from Jakarta in this respect, in Jakarta you are more likely to find girls in malls who are P4 P, probably not as likely in Bangkok. But that's just my opinion, others may have had different experiences.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Non P4P girls are much more easily approached and picked up in Jakarta than in Bangkok. I can walk up to a girl in a mall in Indonesia and get her number or even go home with her any day of the week, but I've not been able to do that even once in Thailand. It's because Thai people idolize Thai people while Indonesians idolize westerners. That being said, unless you are under 30, white, good looking, and preferably tall, it's still not easy to pick up a girl in Jakarta from a rich family who is still in her 20s. The lower class malls like Blok M Plaza are easy pickup spots, but an expensive mall like Grand Indonesia is not. And the girls at Grand Indonesia are far better looking than the girls at Blok M Plaza (although they are also mostly Chinese Indonesians because they are the ones with the money).

That being said, P4P is better in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2110341]I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?[/QUOTE]In Thailand? Forget it. Gals in malls are not looking to be picked up.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2110346]My observation is mostly the opposite of yours. I see them with their clothes on quite a bit since I often have dinner in a location where they walk by on their way to work in the evening. And, of course, we all see them in their street clothes when they leave with a customer. I think they are usually much better looking naked or nearly so in the bars with the sexy lighting or low lighting than they look in their street clothes.

I would agree that we can not make a perfect apples to apples comparison with a girl we see in a mall because that girl is not standing naked next to the go-go girl we saw naked or nearly so previously. But in the harsh light of day and when those go-go girls are walking around outside and riding the bts just like other girls, chances are the sexiest go-go girl you see nearly naked in the bar is not even engendering a second glance among most men on those trains unless, like me, they recognize them from having met them already or something like that. And there is only so far into "ugly" under their clothes the true 9+ girls of Thailand can go unless there is some horrible baby damage and uncharacteristically mis-shapen breasts at a very early age going on under those clothes.

Personally, I am not typically swayed by clothes so much when assessing a girl's beauty and will often point out a mousey looking, dowdy dressed girl in public to my friends as the real blue ribbon winner with the best body compared with the fashion plate posers on hand. And then there are the girls who look terrific in their clothes and there is nothing about what they are wearing that hides what is really going on with their butt, skin, face, weight, proportions, etc. Bear in mind, I am not saying the top tier go-go dancers in any club are actually "ugly", by any means. Just that there is a go-go bar standard of beauty and a regular walking around Thai girl standard of beauty and the latter is quite noticeably higher when you move away from the go-go bars at night and into normal shopping or, let's say family entertainment areas of the city.

btw, I also spent a significant portion of my working life around film/tv actresses and models in the USA. And I am here to tell you there are greater beauties among regular girls on the street than among those professions too. Seriously. What might look great on the other side of a camera lens with the best lighting, make-up and angles at work does not mean that same girl will beat out the girl next door as the one you'd much rather have in your bed.[/QUOTE]Another very good post sir. Most of the time when you see a BG in the light of day without makeup and lighting to hide the skin blemishes and to make them look lighter than they really are; it is quite shocking. Of course as my friends Thai wife said, "When farangs first come to Thailand; their eyes don't work. " That sure seems to be the case. So I am not surprised that non-Asian guys new to Thailand would find the darker more Isaan featured gals attractive. If they stay long enough, one day that will change and their eyes will start to function. I remember when mine did! 555.

[QUOTE=Grego62;2110180]I've been to crazy horse a least 30 times over many years. [/QUOTE]30 times and you still don't know the place is called Crazy House? LOL.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2110572]30 times and you still don't know the place is called Crazy House? LOL.[/QUOTE]There's a strip club chain in America called Crazy Horse. And in my mind I call it crazy horse all the time.

[QUOTE=Monkeypaw;2110113]The real game is to get what you want from the hottest girls in the entire city. Break your egos so perhaps we can help each other. How many on here can even got hot girls from Thaniya? I'm not even Japanese and I've done that. Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.[/QUOTE]Are the pictures you posted in the thread Travel Announcements Only (post #1443, dated 11-24-17) examples of 'the hottest girls in the entire city'? If so I'm not really impressed. Don't get me wrong, most of them are pretty but they don't belong to the hottest girls in the entire city IMO.
OTOH I realize that only one picture of a girl is not enough to judge her beauty. A girl can look gorgeous in one pic and very plain in another.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=2109092&viewfull=1#post2109092

By the way: talking about egos. About 6 years ago you announced that you would make your first trip to Bangkok. After that you have posted FRs of some places you visited in Europe but you have never posted anything in the Thailand thread. And now you come here, after 6 years, and tell us about 'the real game'?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2110524]Another very good post sir. Most of the time when you see a BG in the light of day without makeup and lighting to hide the skin blemishes and to make them look lighter than they really are; it is quite shocking. Of course as my friends Thai wife said, "When farangs first come to Thailand; their eyes don't work. " That sure seems to be the case. So I am not surprised that non-Asian guys new to Thailand would find the darker more Isaan featured gals attractive. If they stay long enough, one day that will change and their eyes will start to function. I remember when mine did! 555.[/QUOTE]Guess my eyes still don't work because after almost 15 years I still like dark Isaan cuties. But I can also like lighter skinned girls. Or black African girls. Or Caucasian girls.

Not trying to be politically correct here but for me beauty has absolutely nothing to do with skin color. There are pretty girls among the dark skinned Thai and there are pretty girls among the light skinned Thai.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2110581]Are the pictures you posted in the thread Travel Announcements Only (post #1443, dated 11-24-17) examples of 'the hottest girls in the entire city'? If so I'm not really impressed. Don't get me wrong, most of them are pretty but they don't belong to the hottest girls in the entire city IMO.
OTOH I realize that only one picture of a girl is not enough to judge her beauty. A girl can look gorgeous in one pic and very plain in another.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=2109092&viewfull=1#post2109092

By the way: talking about egos. About 6 years ago you announced that you would make your first trip to Bangkok. After that you have posted FRs of some places you visited in Europe but you have never posted anything in the Thailand thread. And now you come here, after 6 years, and tell us about 'the real game'?[/QUOTE]IMO, they are perfectly pleasant looking, above average go-go girls. If they are go-go girls at all. A couple of them are conveying a Ladyboy vibe. There are a few rather obvious nose and boob jobs in there. The boob jobs would be a deal killer for me unless it was for BBBJ+CIM for 2000 baht at the most to her plus a normal 700 baht barfine. Even then, it would have to be a fantastic BJ for me to get past the boob job distraction enough to even ask for her Line ID afterwards. I have been with many girls like them over the past 4-5 years for the usual 2,000-2,500 baht going rate plus maybe a 500 baht bonus for BBFS. I guess now we need to see a photo of the guy who got turned down by one of those girls or similar until he ponied up 10,000 baht for LT, for a bit more perspective.

Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2110608]
Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2110623]I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.[/QUOTE]If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.

[QUOTE=Zman429;2110733]If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.[/QUOTE]I think Smoothy and I both were also going with the "might" pay as high as 6,000 baht option if those exception criteria were met as well. And for a true LT of considersble length on either side of sleep. What we can't really know until we meet them in person is if the girl really approaches a 9-10 rating for us. I don't see it in those pics, but might in person.

And I would only consider it because it would be part of a night out on the town. Otherwise, you're right in that one can work a much lower cost for what I described as real sex with girls of the calibre suggested by those pics. My regular non bar girl 20 y.o. and even the 26 y.o. would fit favorably among that group, surpass most on looks, deliver my sexual requirements beautifully and I only give them a fraction of 6,000 baht, typically netting down to less than 1,000 baht per pop if I actually calculated it that way. Never more than 2,000 baht for a true LT. However, I am on the hook for other expenses and gifts here and there. Lol.

But even at that it would not remotely approach the 6,000 baht++ per night mentioned. And unexpected added expenses arise with bar girls, too.

However, getting it to that result requires a bit more time, effort and dare I say "game" than just walking into a go-go bar and negotiating your best deal.