Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2110846]I don't think I have a problem with my eyes in Thailand, but my IQ seems to drop about 30 points.[/QUOTE]I just lost my bowels laughing! Thanks Mr HT, I needed that laugh.

Is the discrimination against Indians confined to those visiting in groups or the whole race? I am an Indian and visiting alone. Do I have to face the similar discrimination? Though it is not beneficial to most people here and out of context kindly share the details of some acceptable gogos which welcome Indians as well. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Zman429;2110733]If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And truth be told, I have yet to meet at 9-10 who is a freak in bed in my 18 years in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2110589]Guess my eyes still don't work because after almost 15 years I still like dark Isaan cuties. But I can also like lighter skinned girls. Or black African girls. Or caucasian girls.

Not trying to be polically correct here but for me beauty has absolutely nothing to do with skin color. There are pretty girls among the dark skinned Thai and there are pretty girls among the light skinned Thai.[/QUOTE]For Asians it has a lot to do with skin color. I do seem some darker gals that I find attractive, but it is rare these days. And I don't like the flat faces, square heads, or high cheekbones. Although I have seen some African gals that are ok; I'm just not attracted to them. Funny as I like a tan on a white chick, but prefer my Asians light skinned. Honey skin on an Asian is really nice as well.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2110608]IMO, they are perfectly pleasant looking, above average go-go girls. If they are go-go girls at all. A couple of them are conveying a Ladyboy vibe. There are a few rather obvious nose and boob jobs in there. The boob jobs would be a deal killer for me unless it was for BBBJ+CIM for 2000 baht at the most to her plus a normal 700 baht barfine. Even then, it would have to be a fantastic BJ for me to get past the boob job distraction enough to even ask for her Line ID afterwards. I have been with many girls like them over the past 4-5 years for the usual 2,000-2,500 baht going rate plus maybe a 500 baht bonus for BBFS. I guess now we need to see a photo of the guy who got turned down by one of those girls or similar until he ponied up 10,000 baht for LT, for a bit more perspective.

Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.[/QUOTE]We are on the same page again. Would I pay 6 k for that? If the above criteria were met (minus the BBFS and possibly plus A+), I could pop twice during the ST, so minimum 90 minutes, and she had a very well developed skill set, was erotic, and seductive. So in Thailand no; probably a unicorn. My guess is the gals pictured have very high regard for themselves and really don't have to do much when it comes to the "act. " They get by on their looks alone and most guys let them get away with it.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2110927]For Asians it has a lot to do with skin color.[/QUOTE]Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most Asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.

Dark skinned girls, even the very pretty ones, almost always say to me they would like to be light skinned. They consider themselves ugly because of their dark skin. I think this is very sad.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2110945]Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.[/QUOTE]The difference is not only in the skin color but the shape of the body (and face) differs also (not always but most of the time). In my first years in Thailand I didn't care about the skin color, but now I tend to be more attracted to white skinned girls also. The smell of their body is different also. I don't believe it's mostly because of a social status.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2110623]I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.[/QUOTE]Interesting debate. You hit the whole psychological nerve of why people pay more and others pay less. Why do people pay a lot for a real Rolex when a fake one will tell them the exact same time? Why do people drive a BMW when a Hyundai will get them to where they are going? Why do people chase stunners when average girls will still help you shoot your load?

In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.

If we look like Ryan Gosling and had a lot of money then stunners would cost us very little. We pay what we can afford and what we think the girls are worth. Sometimes we hit real gold and sometimes fools gold. It is that simple.

Happy Hunting.

Anyone pick up a freelancer and take her back to your hotel by BTS? I'm looking at hotels around Siam and imagine the traffic via taxi getting there would be a pain.

[QUOTE=Applesauce;2110987]Anyone pick up a freelancer and take her back to your hotel by BTS? I'm looking at hotels around Siam and imagine the traffic via taxi getting there would be a pain.[/QUOTE]It's a really bad idea and a terrible way, possibly a fatal way to start your liason. 99% of the girls will balk at the idea of taking the BTS. Forgetaboutit!

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2110945]Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.

Dark skinned girls, even the very pretty ones, almost always say to me they would like to be light skinned. They consider themselves ugly because of their dark skin. I think this is very sad.[/QUOTE]It's not only sad, I find it absurd. Especially among the Asian men who are dark skinned themselves but are only interested in white skinned women. And you are correct that they will choose a light skinned dog over a dark skinned beauty. Even though the average person in the country has relatively dark skin, every single commercial on TV has light skinned people. The media has done a number on these people. Totally brain washed.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2110994]It's a really bad idea and a terrible way, possibly a fatal way to start your liason. 99% of the girls will balk at the idea of taking the BTS. Forgetaboutit![/QUOTE]I would also highly recommend not doing this. The best freelancers / GoGo girls will barely want to walk a few blocks to the BTS station let alone ride it for 20 minutes with you. I would also not recommend staying in Siam if you plan to mostly chill in the Suk area. It is going to be really annoying given the traffic. If you are in Siam, hit up places there or use the dating apps.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2110338]Hey guys!

Any inputs here would be really appreciated.[/QUOTE]I would suggest you to try levels lounge or insanity, both are nearby. Good clubs and nice music, insanity goes on till 4 am. Another option is Spasso in grand Hyatt Erawan, girls dress up in little sophisticated but music sucks and its bit suitable for mid age person. Mixx is also nice but they usually doesn't allow Indian and Arabic people, there preferred client tally is whites.

Regarding escorts you can try tony BKK, they have a nice collection. I would suggest you to better go for clubs rather than picking up escorts.

[QUOTE=Axiata;2110975]In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.[/QUOTE]Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.

[QUOTE=Axiata;2110975]Interesting debate. You hit the whole psychological nerve of why people pay more and others pay less. Why do people pay a lot for a real Rolex when a fake one will tell them the exact same time? Why do people drive a BMW when a Hyundai will get them to where they are going? Why do people chase stunners when average girls will still help you shoot your load?

In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.

If we look like Ryan Gosling and had a lot of money then stunners would cost us very little. We pay what we can afford and what we think the girls are worth. Sometimes we hit real gold and sometimes fools gold. It is that simple.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]There is one factor that does not fit your analogy re P4P girls in Thailand; the assumed real Rolex will likely lose 15 seconds per minute while the nearly identical looking one is accurate to the second. The BMW will likely be stone cold out of gas while the Hyundai is topped up and ready to roll. The stunners have learned most guys will pay their asking price even if they never engage in what I would consider real sex.

I don't think any of us on the side of the debate that expects top quality service to be combined with top quality looks if we're going to pay top Rolex and BMW money for it would balk at the bill if that combination was delivered. But to only define a Rolex and a BMW by how it looks and how much it costs regardless whether it can even come close to telling accurate time or take you from point A to point B without getting out to push leads to a very bad deal IMO.

Moreover, the "beauty" level of the girls apparently at question does not appear to me by their pics to be any different than what can be had out there for significantly less than the money stated and for that money will deliver at least what I'm betting they routinely give their most favorite regular customers if not more.

I would have no problem paying Rolex and BMW money for the real thing in both looks AND performance. Maybe work a reasonable discount off the asking price as per normal procedure. But we have not heard from the previous wearer and driver what the perfomance level is for these models yet, only seen a photo and heard how much he paid for them below what another guy paid. That is just too little intel to consider before jumping in and saying, "Great! I'll take one, too."