American Politics

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2584769]Let's look at each statement / question:

[B]Pelosi is not not mandating vaccines for White House staffers.[/B] Pelosi belongs to the Legislative branch. The White House is the Executive branch. Pelosi can't mandate to the WH. Therefore your statement is false.

[B]Most White House staffers are democrats and they are not vaccinated This statement is false. [/b][URL] https://katv.com/news/coronavirus/hundreds-of-white-house-staffers-receive-vaccine [/URL].

. . . [/QUOTE]Well Done!!!

By now, it's pretty much established, spreading falsehoods is in their DNA. Like breathing air.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2584769] But if most unvaccinated people are Republicans, so be it.[/QUOTE]Just about sums it up! Like lemmings off the proverbial, [i] "unvaccinated cliff".[/i]

[QUOTE=Canada;2584829]Harris and Biden were the first and most vocal people claiming the vaccines were not safe. Blame them for causing doubt in the American people. Put the blame where it belongs.[/QUOTE]Gee, how unlike you to post a comment without proof to back it up.

Not!

[QUOTE=Canada;2584823]Covid cost 3,000,000 jobs not Trump.[/QUOTE]The orange buffoon's bumbling cost the jobs. He never understood (and neither did rethuglicans) that jobs and a good COVID response were absolutely linked.

And besides, consumers held the upper hand anyway. Wishing the pandemic away like trump did was a recipe for disaster. The worst covid responses were all by klowns who thought like trump. AMLO, Bolsonaro, Erdogan all screwed the pooch.

[QUOTE=Canada;2584591]The Wuhan virus killed Trump economy[/QUOTE]TrumpShit's mishandling of the virus ruined the US economy and cost 3 million jobs in the United States.

Same thing as Herbert Hoover's mishandling of the major issues during his similarly failed presidency.

Winners deal with and handle challenges. Losers like TrumpShip make all the excuses they can.

[QUOTE=Canada;2584829]Harris and Biden were the first and most vocal people claiming the vaccines were not safe. Blame them for causing doubt in the American people. Put the blame where it belongs.[/QUOTE]That's absolutely false. Show your source.

[QUOTE=Canada;2584591]Biden economy will be great if he does nothing. He does not need to give away more money. He just needs people to go back to work as they did in record numbers for Trump economy. The Wuhan virus killed Trump economy but Biden has done nothing and it is roaring back. Only Biden can kill the economy and bankrupt USA. Fortunately he has done nothing for 48 years in congress so Americans are hopeful he will continue his record. Easy to see why you are a loser on government subsistence if you believe Trump economy wasn't good. You must have been one of the few still on welfare when everyone else was working in Trump presidency before Wuhan virus. You are getting what you deserve under Biden presidency.[/QUOTE]First of all, Biden has already passed a more provably positively effective economic legislation in his first 6 months in office than Trump did in 4 years of playing golf and trying but failing to muscle, bribe and beg foreign leaders to "Make sure I win (in 2020)".

Additionally, the USA economy was in freefall when Biden took over and job one for him in that regard was to create a national Covid-19 vaccination rollout where virtually none existed before he took office.

Biden could not get away with doing nothing and coasting on the economic conditions he inherited the way Trump most certainly could and did for his first full year in office. Moreover, the USA economy would clearly have performed better had Trump CONTINUED to do nothing and coast on the economic conditions he inherited for the full four years of his term.

That would have been especially so if Trump had done nothing to "save" us a few measly million bucks with his all-time worst economic decision to drastically cut the budget for the CDC, pull our monitoring representatives out of those Chinese research labs and virtually dismantle our and the world's Pandemic Prevention and Response teams in 2018 contrary to all expert advice and warnings NOT to do that!

And the assertions that Trump's pre and post Trump's Pandemic economy was crap is not based on anecdotal evidence or my casual observations about what somebody's gardener decided to do one day. They are the only conclusions possible based on the actual economic data collected and posted by non partisan government agencies and departments assigned to that job and accurately reported on the links I provided.

[QUOTE=Canada;2584823]Covid cost 3,000,000 jobs not Trump.[/QUOTE]Okay, let's be specific. Trump not only lacked an active response, but actively resisted and attempted to block every effort by health officials to rein in the pandemic early, causing not only exponentially more deaths, but spikes in infections through superspreader events, including his own rallies, that ultimately forced thousands of businesses to close and employees to lose their jobs. Better?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2584854]A pure lie.[/QUOTE]It is true and they are getting called on it by real news. Before Biden-Harris took office they were rejecting Trump vaccines. You could google it but google once again blocked those searches to protect Biden.

Why aren't Biden staffers vaccinated? I am sure the staffers that went to celebrate with the Texas democrats weren't Republicans?

Biden is killing this country. Why do you guys protect him? Do you hate USA that much?

[QUOTE=Canada;2584591]Biden economy will be great if he does nothing. He does not need to give away more money. He just needs people to go back to work as they did in record numbers for Trump economy. The Wuhan virus killed Trump economy but Biden has done nothing and it is roaring back. Only Biden can kill the economy and bankrupt USA. Fortunately he has done nothing for 48 years in congress so Americans are hopeful he will continue his record. Easy to see why you are a loser on government subsistence if you believe Trump economy wasn't good. You must have been one of the few still on welfare when everyone else was working in Trump presidency before Wuhan virus. You are getting what you deserve under Biden presidency.[/QUOTE]Trump walked into a record breaking economy in January of 2016. The stock market was at an alltime high of 18,000 from a low of 6000 when Obama took office from George Bush. All Trump had to do was to shut up and follow the recommendations of the health experts. That and a little empathy for those who lost loved ones- but those are skills of which he's completely devoid. Your man had his chance and he fucked the pooch. It's time to STFU and let the grownups try to clean up your friggin mess.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2584887]Okay, let's be specific. Trump not only lacked an active response, but actively resisted and attempted to block every effort by health officials to rein in the pandemic early, causing not only exponentially more deaths, but spikes in infections through superspreader events, including his own rallies, that ultimately forced thousands of businesses to close and employees to lose their jobs. Better?[/QUOTE]Are you saying Trump did not ban China and other countries from flying into USA with Covid when Biden and Harris called him racist for this?

Are you saying Trump didn't fast track 3 vaccines to save millions of American lives?

Everyone in USA and the rest of the world knows it.

If Biden had been president he would have done the same thing him and Obama did for swine flu. Nothing! And millions of Americans would have died.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2584432]Firstly, the stat is most likely false. Secondly, anyone who wants to vote can get a free photo ID very easily. If they can't be bothered to get one, they clearly don't care about voting. That is absolutely their right. Nobody has to vote.

General Robert Lee was universally recognized by friend and foe alike as a great man. It is sad that after so much was done over many decades to heal the wounds of the Civil War, the modern-day left are trying to tear them open again. Almost as if they want a second civil war.[/QUOTE]RL Lee wasn't internationally recognized at all. The biggest problem the confederacy faced was the fact that not one single foreign nation recognized them as an independent nation. Had they somehow won, which is completely inconceivable, they would have been international pariahs that couldn't sell a bale of cotton to a single nation in the world. You're pushing the first big lie- the Lost Cause Narrative. Lee wasn't a decent man at all, he was a slavemonger.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2584885]First of all, Biden has already passed a more provably positively effective economic legislation in his first 6 months in office than Trump did in 4 years of playing golf and trying but failing to muscle, beg or blackmail foreign leaders to "Make sure I win (in 2020)".

Additionally, the USA economy was in freefall when Biden took over and job one for him in that regard was to create a national Covid-19 vaccination rollout where virtually none existed before he took office.

And the assertions that Trump's pre and post Trump's Pandemic economy was crap is not based on anecdotal evidence or my casual observations about what somebody's gardener decided to do one day. They are the only conclusions possible based on the actual economic data collected and posted by non partisan government agencies and departments assigned to that job and accurately reported on the links I provided.[/QUOTE]Name one thing Biden has done to help businesses and the economy in his first 6 months. You can't because he did nothing. So I know you are going to ignore this post.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2584441]As I said, this debate was settled last century. Communism was the ultimate government scheme to "promote the general welfare of its citizens". How did that work out?[/QUOTE]Says who? Stalin? Nobody's talking communism except you conservatives. Anyone who uses the words "socialism" and "communism" interchangeably simply declare their ignorance.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2584898]RL Lee wasn't internationally recognized at all. Had they somehow won, which is completely inconceivable, they would have been international pariahs that couldn't sell a bale of cotton to a single nation in the world.[/QUOTE]Had the CSA won, it is highly probable they would have formed at the very least at trading alliance with Brazil, where slavery was legal. In fact, after the War, numerous ex-Confederates emigrated to Brazil, established colonies where they maintained a slaveholding plantation economy. It should also be noted that in the land called Liberia, the black American colonists also sought to establish a slaveholding economy.

[QUOTE=Canada;2584341]Republicans promote the general welfare of its citizens. Democrats put its citizens in welfare. Democrats call all successfully citizens racist. Democrats hate American prosperity just like they hate the flag and anthem. They demonize anyone that works hard and is successful as privileged. They blame their laziness on Republicans who work hard. That is why they hate capitalism and want socialism. They want to not work and have the same prosperity as hard working Americans. I agree life is unfair. If you are a lazy democrat you do not make millions.[/QUOTE]Republicans need to change their name to the Fascist Party of the United States. They actively oppose the Constitution and it's democratic institutions. If you're an American citizen, you should be arrested as a traitor.