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And that is only the auto immune diseases catalogued as of yet. Bear in mind that the number of autoimmune diseases always increases over time. 12 years into the future due to natural mutations.
So by all means this is comparable to Thanos. And the defenders of this genocidal programme are all satanistis.
I have a question for you guys. What if all the governments of the world became sane or insane, depending on which way you look at it, and opened up their countries and all their establishments to all travelers now exactly like pre-covid times, would you travel?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2544213]I have a question for you guys. What if all the governments of the world became sane or insane, depending on which way you look at it, and opened up their countries and all their establishments to all travelers now exactly like pre-covid times, would you travel?[/QUOTE]I would travel as before only after being vaccinated.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2544213]I have a question for you guys. What if all the governments of the world became sane or insane, depending on which way you look at it, and opened up their countries and all their establishments to all travelers now exactly like pre-covid times, would you travel?[/QUOTE]I will not go before the situation is really under control. It is more than 6 months that I already implemented a be plan, that satisfy me a lot and my partners also. I will not wait desperately the opening of FKK, sex is not forbidden and may be better than ever. For that you need to be a bit attractive, having some cash, investing in relations. More difficult than to put 50 euro on the table in a FKK and fucking like a. I trust you that you will again overreact to my comment.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2544225]I would travel as before only after being vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Good, we need people to take a shot to the head. For the team. Because otherwise the planet will die. As is written in Agenda 2030.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2544114] ... when a French here, with no risk job monthly paid by French government for all his fonctionnaire carreer, not knowing anything about business logic: how much You make, how much You cost, to decide if You worth, when some like me prefer to try to keep their business, taking risk for my life since 1 year, rather than staying safe at home in bed close to heater waiting to be paid by French government. Really bullshiting guy on all topics, same than for expensive carbon bike climbing with a fat on, I would like to see, or maybe electric.[/QUOTE]So you heroically risk your life for a year when you go to work, but there is no risk when you go to a brothel?
Got it.
Did Marc Madiot call you yet?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2544246]Good, we need people to take a shot to the head. For the team. Because otherwise the planet will die. As is written in Agenda 2030.[/QUOTE]I will ask to get the shot in my upper arm as everybody else, but if you want to get it in the head, who am I to judge? Be my guest LOL.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2544024]I would be interested to see the figures for other countries, ranging from those that had fewer cases (Vietnam, Taiwan, Australia, NZ, Finland, Norway) to those that had their healthcare systems stretched (Italy, UK, USA). Due to global supply chains being disrupted, there is probably higher excess mortality in poorer countries.[/QUOTE]For totals:
[URL] https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker[/URL]
For trends:
[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores?tab=table[/URL]
Data is often not reliable for developing nations if there's even any data at all. In several Western nations and developed East nations, covid deaths exceeds excess deaths, meaning less non-covid deaths compared to previous years. In several countries such as Australia and NZ, overall deaths are lower than pre-covid.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2544255]So you heroically risk your life for a year when you go to work, but there is no risk when you go to a brothel?
Got it.
Did Marc Madiot call you yet?[/QUOTE]There is a risk for the other drivers.
Why should Marc Madiot call?
Does he need a midget mascot for the team?
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2544255]So you heroically risk your life for a year when you go to work, but there is no risk when you go to a brothel?
Got it.
Did Marc Madiot call you yet?[/QUOTE]French government ask for work from home. I could manage before, but not anymore since 1 year, needing to go daily on the field to check safety, despite risks, to save my business, when one here with carbon bicycle has no risk, being paid by French government whatever he works or not. If I don't work, I don't have money to eat, of course I could also wait to be paid by French government, but I would lose too much money. Let me know if you want we try a climbing together. I should start on end of June when tops are open, until end of October, beginning of November, depending on snow falls. I loved so much my last kilometer on snow to Agnel 2744 on end of last October.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2544274]Waiting, nobody knows today the efficiency of the vaccines and the possible side effects. You seem to believe that vaccines are the only solution may be may be not, let us be a little bit modest, we have to wait how the things will evaluate in Israel in the coming months, it is too early.[/QUOTE]Are vaccines the only solution? Not theoretically. But humans have demonstrated that we have internal factions that self-sabotage the species. We can't even be bothered to wear a thin mask to protect others from our respiratory droplets. Sabotaged by politics, misinformation, uneducated superstition, conspiracy theories, and lack of discipline, we failed to execute the less invasive route: a thin, simple little face diaper with some crowd control. So here we are, one year later and the virus still has a strong hold in Europe and Latin America. Again, are vaccines the only solution? At this point, most likely, but they didn't have to be.
As for being modest or humble, you are right; no one can "know" until it's run it's course. But we can make [B]evidence-based[/B] decisions using the science we do know in combination with controlled observations such as clinical trials. The clinical trials were robust, involving as many participants as most other pharmaceuticals. Each participant was followed for the same amount of time as any other pharmaceutical, we were just able to enroll all participants at one time rather than the staggered enrollment that would normally take years. Most medications ever approved have been done using months of clinical trial information rather than years.
Again, we cannot "know" everything, but can make decisions based on reason and solid data. As when you are driving, you cannot "know" that another car will stop at the stop sign and not crash into to you. But you can integrate your knowledge of laws and current data such as the acceleration / deceleration of the vehicle and determine if the situation is safe. You do this knowing that there is a chance you are wrong. Perhaps the other driver is drunk, texting, or just a psychopath. But based on your human ability to reason, you make the most well-informed decision you can.
The same applies here. We know that mRNA vaccines are just strings of relatively inert (genetic) nucleotides encased in a relatively inert lipid (fat) particle. Other components include various salts and sugars to promote mRNA stability. There are no metals such as aluminum or mercury to act as preservatives. There is not even a protein component which would normally be the most immunologically active macromolecule. Instead, the lipid protects the genetic strand while also facilitating mRNA entry into the cell. MRNA never even enters the nucleus, offering no way for it to directly alter your DNA. In fact, mRNA cannot alter DNA even if it did reach the nucleus of the cell.
Instead, the short mRNA sequence encodes a very specific part of a specific protein similar to a viral protein. And it must rely on your own cells' machinery to be read and for a protein to be constructed. There's a reason why Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines saw so few stumbling blocks compared to AZ and JnJ. It's beauty is in its simplicity.
So while you are right that we cannot "know" 100% until it is done. But those who are educated on the subject and who do not serve a bias agenda feel very comfortable with the evidence. There's a reason why even in the healthcare field there are people who may be timid with the vaccines. Those people are almost always moderately educated providers such as nurses or therapists. However, I hardly ever hear physicians, pharmacists, research clinicians, or other advance practice providers express troubling concern. When you understand the evidence, you are confident in your position.
Perhaps people here can try that. Instead of taking hard positions on topics in which you may only have a basic / rudimentary understanding, try actually learning the topic thoroughly in order to construct a well educated position for yourself. If not willing to do that, perhaps defer to the people who have done the hard work instead of making assertions based on incomplete or superficial comprehension of a subject matter. Worst are the ones who make absurd statements for political reasons or to only feed their twisted ego.
And nobody knows the long term consequences of the covid but from what I see, it doesn't look too good for a significant share of the infected.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2544360]Are vaccines the only solution? Not theoretically. But humans have demonstrated that we have internal factions that self-sabotage the species. We can't even be bothered to wear a thin mask to protect others from our respiratory droplets. Sabotaged by politics, misinformation, uneducated superstition, conspiracy theories, and lack of discipline, we failed to execute the less invasive route: a thin, simple little face diaper with some crowd control. So here we are, one year later and the virus still has a strong hold in Europe and Latin America. Again, are vaccines the only solution? At this point, most likely, but they didn't have to be.
As for being modest or humble, you are right; no one can "know" until it's run it's course. But we can make [B]evidence-based[/B] decisions using the science we do know in combination with controlled observations such as clinical trials. The clinical trials were robust, involving as many participants as most other pharmaceuticals. Each participant was followed for the same amount of time as any other pharmaceutical, we were just able to enroll all participants at one time rather than the staggered enrollment that would normally take years. Most medications ever approved have been done using months of clinical trial information rather than years.
Again, we cannot "know" everything, but can make decisions based on reason and solid data. As when you are driving, you cannot "know" that another car will stop at the stop sign and not crash into to you. But you can integrate your knowledge of laws and current data such as the acceleration / deceleration of the vehicle and determine if the situation is safe. You do this knowing that there is a chance you are wrong. Perhaps the other driver is drunk, texting, or just a psychopath. But based on your human ability to reason, you make the most well-informed decision you can.[/QUOTE]I remember a report few months ago in US, showing some crazy threatening those who asked to put on mask, crazy coughing on them. I didn't see same report about any other country, even UK kept on travelling on end of last year, beginning of this year, spreading their mutant which kill now continental Europe, when also lack of vaccine. Wish of course for enough vaccine to protect those who need or want, for a better, more free life, even vaccine won t cure falling economy. Not sure Germans are in hurry to see risky playfield brothels reopening, attracting guys from all over the world, bringing their diseases, and husbands bringing back at home to German families, when brothels are not much for money and employment for Germans and economy, but rather foreigners working with most money leaving Germany, but can be big risk for Germany safety, when in trouble now since months.
Norwegian, swizz and some German doctors disagree with the comfortable notion put forth by the Astra Zeneca and other vaccine companies. And some goes as far as to indicate that lobbying and malinformation from the vaccine companies are very harmful. Even the US center for disease control now wants to make their own studies because they do not trust fully in the vaccine companies.
In other words, don't be a sheep. Your idea that education itself makes you a free thinking human being wrong. It makes you into a little puppy, with an apple strapped into your mouth, tied up handcuffed by a gay middle aged male fat guy holding a whip.
By the way, they also have 100% free universal health care. So income has zip zero to with it. That is just one more American urban myth. Which so-called 'educated' health care wannabies still believe in.