Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2118715]Awesome! And hope it stays that way forever. Reminds me of the girl at a pattaya gogo bar who asked my friend to suck on her tits when he bought her LDs. While looking around it seemed most of the average looking girls were giving an all-access pass to customers to freely explore their bodies while the hotter ones avoided such tactics and mostly stayed clothed. May be I am wrong but that's the vibe I got. My sampling size is very small so may be the regulars have a better take on this.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's the problem. Dudes still BF the hot ones, even if they are cold fish. Now, in times gone by the good looking ones had to act about the same. Prissy attitudes just did not fly. And the gals wanted to have fun.

As a newbie to BKK later this week, not mongering. As I have P4P'd in Europe up to now, and having researched on here a lot over past few months, I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2112073]Monkeypaw, many of us have been regular contributors to this forum for years. When we read statements like, "Act like a boss and not a sex tourists" and about a monger having "game;" sorry, but it makes us chuckle as we've seen it before. Now, if she and her friends are paying for the bottle, and taking you home and doinking you for free; I'll gladly concede that you have "game. " And give you a deep bow of respect. Better man than I. Otherwise it is she that has game. Why? It's her job to read you and give you what you want in order to extract what she wants. If she sense you have an ego and want to feel like you have "game," then that is the way she will play it. She's done this many times before. Why do you think she is not interested in dudes who have lived here for a time and dudes that speak really good Thai? Because we are not going to play the game. She's not going to get a free night out with her friends drinking 5 k a bottle whisky or the big bucks for what we would probably consider mediocre performance. She's going to get a dude who is going to say, I am going to pay you x and I expect x in return..[/QUOTE]My exact point. Also I prefer little meat in them so don't want models.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2118859]As a newbie to BKK later this week, not mongering. As I have P4P'd in Europe up to now, and having researched on here a lot over past few months, I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?[/QUOTE]For massage parlors (oily massage), you pay the massage money to the reception desk based on the massage time of your choice. You pay the girl after sex. For club pickup, you pay the BF to the club. You pay the girl after sex.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2118859]I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?[/QUOTE]1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.

4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2118715]Awesome! And hope it stays that way forever. Reminds me of the girl at a pattaya gogo bar who asked my friend to suck on her tits when he bought her LDs. While looking around it seemed most of the average looking girls were giving an all-access pass to customers to freely explore their bodies while the hotter ones avoided such tactics and mostly stayed clothed. May be I am wrong but that's the vibe I got. My sampling size is very small so may be the regulars have a better take on this.[/QUOTE]One of my earliest memories was witnessing a good friend of mine circling his ice filled glass of whiskey upon a deaf mute entertainers nipples, whilst she humped his knee as he rubbed her kitty to orgasm. That was over 20 years ago and the memory will stay with me for the rest of my years. I really hope other fellow Mongers get to experience similar. I'm certain there are opportunities.

All good points!

But this is for persons like me from a certain country, no brownie points for guessing which one by the way. We were told to pay the full amount for the girl upfront before taking her out at both CH and Windmill in Pattaya. Probably clubs in BKK have same approach.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2119012]1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.

4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.[/QUOTE]

Hi folks,

Would be travelling to Bangkok for the first time & need help, would like to know from which nightclub I can pick freelancers from Sukhumvit area & prices & please and also suggest good soapy massage parlours around Sukhumvit area & is it also easy to find girls from online dating apps if yes please suggest a few any more info would be greatly appreciated my PM is active.

Happy mongering.

DannyBoy20.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2119012]1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away![/QUOTE]I'm a white guy not a newbie and on occasion I pay up front at Gogo's never been more than 2 k though. Never had a problem.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2119012]1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.

4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.[/QUOTE]All of the above is correct with one slight modification. Some of the go-go's in Patpong, at least awhile ago, required payment in advance for both the girl and the bar fine; full payment was made directly to the bar, not the girl. Although many mongers frown on such a practice as a disincentive to good performance, one of my best go-go girl experiences was with a girl at a bar that required this. What I don't know is whether asking for the entire fee in advance is the norm in Patpong, or whether it just was at this one bar or perhaps a few. OTOH, at Nana and Soi Cowboy one should expect to pay the girl's fee when she is getting ready to leave.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2119012]1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!

3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.

4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.[/QUOTE]What about ordering services from smooci or a FL on the street?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2116519]I had the hottest girl I've ever had in my life in a walk in hotel in KL. Vietnamese girl about 18 years old. What a firm and young body that girl had.

That being said, I absolutely hated the seediness of the situation. Those walk in hotels are run by dudes who are pure evil. I won't do it again. It's the only time I ever felt like it was a true sex slave type of environment.[/QUOTE]This is definitely happening in places like that and Indonesia, a girl I met in Macau ended up having her passport kept from her unless she paid a debt, and it was so slow there was no chance for her to pay it back. She had already met me outside the sauna many times (without ever asking for anything! And I took a chance and sent her the couple hundred USD she needed to get her passport back. She offered to pay me back in cash, I declined, and she has paid me back another way many times. Still, it was a scary situation for her, and I'm sure many who are in that predicament. Downside to the hobby being unregulated, and criminalized.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2119012]
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
[/QUOTE]What are your thoughts about FLs where no prespecified amount is mentioned or discussed and it is left up to the punter to put a sum of money in her hand or next to her purse afterwards? After all, there isn't a mamasan or papasan on hand with FLs to quote a price, no sign or menu stating services offered and for how much and I doubt most guys who take FLs have read the forums to know what is supposedly considered "standard" these days.

I am particularly curious about your or anyone else's thoughts on this especially with regard to Thermae FLs.

I am a 64 year old Caucasian. Last week I took a very cute young lady from the supposedly more Asian side line-up in Thermae (on the left as you walk in through the Sukhumvit steps door). Being very curious about what would happen if I just went with the flow this time as many guys do, I did not engage at all in my usual screening questions regarding "For what?" details and, interestingly, neither of us mentioned a word about "How much?" either. She just smiled broadly and invitingly as I was standing with a friend at the bar and so I decided to approach her and proceed with my little experiment of just going with the flow on it. She spoke English fairly well, so language was not an issue.

Therefore, I am curious now what you or anyone else would recommend be paid to a Thermae FL if the session turned out to be very good (for example, if she complied with pretty much what you tried to engage in or asked of her in the room) and, by contrast, if it turned out to be disappointing (for example, it was not a complete Jekyll and Hyde transformation, but mostly she just went through the motions of what would only satisfy the least demanding and quick-on-the-trigger customers willing and able to accept the rock bottom basic notion of FS).

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2119154]What are your thoughts about FLs where no prespecified amount is mentioned or discussed and it is left to the punter to put a sum of money in her hand or next to her purse afterwards? After all, there isn't a mamasan or papasan on hand with FLs to quote a price, no sign or menu stating services offered and I doubt most guys who take FLs have read the forums to know what is supposedly "standard" these days.

I am particularly curious about your or anyone else's thoughts on this especially with regard to Thermae FLs.

I am a 64 year old Caucasian. Last week I took a very cute young lady from the supposedly more Asian side line-up in Thermae (on the left as you walk in through the Sukhumvit steps door). Being very curious about what would happen if I just went with the flow as many guys do, I did not engage at all in my usual screening questions regarding "For what?" details and neither of us mentioned a word about "How much?"

Therefore, I am curious now what you or anyone else would recommend be paid to a Thermae FL if the session turned out to be very good (say, if she complied with pretty much what you tried to engage in or asked of her in the room) and, by contrast, if it turned out to be disappointing (say, it was not a complete Jekyl and Hyde transformation, but mostly she just went through the motions of what would only satisfy the least demanding and quick-on-the-trigger customers willing and able to accept the rock bottom basic notion of FS).[/QUOTE]I think ST is pretty standard at 2500. I typically do not do LT with first time encounters, so I'm not sure, but I've been quoted 5000 LT for FL at Thermae. Maybe other regulars can confirm if it can be lower?

For an average performance, unless she really frustrated me, I probably would have given the standard 2500 for ST, but maybe 2000 or 1500ST if it was obviously a ploy. If it was very good, I might tip a 200-500.

Also, I was recently quoted 3500ST and 7000-8000 LT for Nana, e. G. Rainbow 2. Is that accurate? Seems extremely pricey.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2119158]I think ST is pretty standard at 2500. I typically do not do LT with first time encounters, so I'm not sure, but I've been quoted 5000 LT for FL at Thermae. Maybe other regulars can confirm if it can be lower?

For an average performance, unless she really frustrated me, I probably would have given the standard 2500 for ST, but maybe 2000 or 1500ST if it was obviously a ploy. If it was very good, I might tip a 200-500.

Also, I was recently quoted 3500ST and 7000-8000 LT for Nana, e. G. Rainbow 2. Is that accurate? Seems extremely pricey.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. And in those cases, did you also tell the girl what you would expect of her for those quoted amounts? Or was the negotiation only about "How much?" and nothing about "For what?" other than for ST vs LT, that is?