Bangkok Reports

Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).

Sorry it's off topic I know but can anyone tell me if it is possible to view the reports in chronological order rather than newest first? It's ass-backwards to every other forum I've read and does my head in. Because you read the reactions to the reports before you read the reports themselves.

I've looked in the 'settings' bit but can't for the life of me figure out how to read posts in the 'proper' order.

Apologies for the interruption.

JR.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2119289]"Well, honey, if you need to make more money to take care of your family, you should start learning how to give a real blowjob without a condom." And, with that, I peeled off another 500 baht and gave that to her. We had, after all, engaged in what passes for sex among many customers these days, I hadn't negotiated any particular sexual act beforehand, and she played the "my family" card. In the end, I gave her the going rate for a Thermae girl ST, 2,500 baht, under mild protest.

That is why I was curious what others would have done.[/QUOTE]IMHO, once you had proper sex with her, and for 30 minutes at that, it's unfair to reduce the rate you agreed to in advance. Sure, you got far less than you expected, but maybe she considers she gave more than she usually does, given that her usual customer might finish within 3 minutes, as you mentioned. On the other hand, she does have a duty to make you finish, even if it's with a bad HJ after you go soft. She cannot claim the full price if she refuses to finish you off, but it's different if [I]you[/I] stop the session.

If you did not agree a price in advance, up to you, of course, down to a reasonable minimum (1000-1500 in this case, I think).

I try to cancel this type of session early on, before sex had taken place. In that case, you don't owe her much except travel money and time (and time is cheap). Oil on dick, strike one, maybe if she's hot or it's a misunderstanding, I'd let that one slide. Refusing a BBBJ, strike two, and she's out with 200-500 baht at most.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2119508]After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.[/QUOTE]Is there anyway you can share that Line ID? Do you have premium here? I'll buy it to PM you if so.

[QUOTE=NRock;2119659]Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).[/QUOTE]You joking? My best scores are from the smart girls that wait outside to pick you off before you even get inside. Assuming not ladyboy LOL.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2119508]After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.[/QUOTE]Nice score.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2119580]2 k is probably more than I would have given, and to tell you the truth I would have called off the session long before then. When DFK, DATY, et al was refused, I would have explained why I was not happy and also told her that I did not expect nor want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with, gotten up, dressed, given her between 500 and 1 k, and left.

How did the exchange end for you? Was she upset or did she at least pretend to understand your position?[/QUOTE]Ordinarily, I would have called it off earlier, too. And have. The instant she put that oil on my dick after I told her I did not want that I would have told her it's over, gotten up, showered, got dressed and given her 500 baht or so as I was putting her out the door. But this was my "go with the flow" experiment and had already decided to go with whatever she had in mind to "serve" me, as she put it. Only weirdly in the back of my mind did I think that maybe she had some fantastic trick up her sleeve to turn everything around and suddenly become a good or passionate lover. She did seem pretty confident about her sexual skills and powers. LOL. I know, I know. Experiment concluded, results now known.

The exchange ended rather coldly. No apology from her or even a thank you for coughing up an additional 500 baht above what I decided was fair if not generous. Since I live in a small apartment complex without a front desk so to speak, I need to escort the girl down to my front door to let her out with my security card. We were both silent in the elevator since I really had nothing else to say, I opened the front door of the complex for her, she walked out and I merely said "bye" and went back in. She seemed genuinely disheartened that what she delivered hadn't been even remotely acceptable enough to get me off. But not disheartened enough to offer another, more realistically sexual approach, of course.

I realize that on some level I perpetuated in her mind the possible rap on Farang customers among some Thermae girls; that we expect more of them than their typical current apparently very low-demand customer base and, not getting it, we just might not pay as much as they hope we'll pay (bearing in mind, no amount of money was discussed previously in this case). For which I most happily accept that responsibility.

[QUOTE=NRock;2119659]Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).[/QUOTE]I wonder how the staff at Thermae can verify 100% that a girl is not TS or post-op? I would also like to learn this trick.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2119823] I realize that on some level I perpetuated in her mind the possible rap on Farang customers among some Thermae girls; that we expect more of them than their typical current apparently very low-demand customer base and, not getting it, we just might not pay as much as they hope we'll pay (bearing in mind, no amount of money was discussed previously in this case). For which I most happily accept that responsibility.[/QUOTE]Good for you. It is a shame our Asian counterparts are not as demanding as we are. If they were, the scene would still be quite good. I will tell you that when the mainland punters arrive in droves, the gals will have a wake up call. They are demanding.

I'm new to mongering in Thailand (but not new to mongering abroad) so forgive me if my questions are foolish.

I am flying into Bangkok and landing at 2 am. I am heading into the Grand Inn Hotel, so I am guessing I will be all checked in and ready to go at 4 am. What route would you guys go for a release at this time and local that wouldn't be too taxing on the body? Nana and Thermae are closed, right? And smooci is a 2 hour minimum which may be rough after a 24 hour travel from across the Pacific. Is there a delivery massage service out there? I know in places like Jakarta you can have a girl come to your room that late, give an amazing post-flight massage, then HJ or BBBJ or FS depending what you want to pay and how lazy you are after your flight. Is my best bet just walking some street and finding a FL?

Also, can anyone offer any advice for NYE? Are places like Soi22 and Nana packed to the gill? Or dead as girls visit home? Any insight? I'm wondering if this is a good night to get out the Soi22 and try a few bars or a really bad night for it (in which case I can try to find a girl another way).

Any advice would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2119823]But this was my "go with the flow" experiment and had already decided to go with whatever she had in mind to "serve" me, as she put it. Only weirdly in the back of my mind did I think that maybe she had some fantastic trick up her sleeve to turn everything around and suddenly become a good or passionate lover. She did seem pretty confident about her sexual skills and powers. LOL. I know, I know. Experiment concluded, results now known.[/QUOTE]Chalk it up to bad luck and move on LOL. Don't give up so quick happens to everyone. It's funny I thought the first girl that started me off with a lubed hand job was ripping me off. Until she started a BJ and put on the condom and I was like wow this is so much better.

So last night I decided I'd go with the flow and check out Jomtien's night scene got off at Soi 7 and man lots of punters in the bars but a few interesting possibilities decided to wander up to Rho plaza and come back if necessary. Anyhow not finding much then this skinny but a bit weathered girl says how about a drink and I start to wander off and I'm like what am I going to walk around all night. So I say great. She then proceeds to tell me she's not working there just helping a friend, not go with you etc, and I'm like grrr okay have a drink and leave. Then her friend starts dancing on the stripper pole and I say hey can you do that and she starts putting on a show. Well that changes the mood. And she's rubbing on me saying been divorced three years no men, whatever LOL. So now she's ready to leave so we grab the baht bus back to pattaya. She takes her clothes off and wow looks like a 20 year old with these nice real "see" sized cups. Proceeds to ravish me like a girl in heat we finish up and is oh no we're going again you do with me as you want all night. We go again bit later. She leaves again in morning, never asks for tip, taxi fare anything. I'm only out the 300 BF for friend, 220 drinks, and 20 baht for busor 540 total. Best score I've had in awhile. Might be going to Jomtien more often.

"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."

I do think that at some point with a girl there is an implicit social contract to pay in-full whether your experience is exactly what you want, or not. And that point is usually at penetration.

Yeah, I understand that if you go to a restaurant and the dish is terrible you can send it back. But you also don't get a refund or discount from a venue if a concert wasn't to your liking, etc. Our hobby probably falls somewhere in between but I tend to honor the agreed upon price and use tips to compensate for performance / enjoyment.

Met up with Vlady at the Subway near Soi 7/1. Normally she works at in lobby of a certain 5 star hotel on Sukhumvit. She looks better with full make up, than after sex. Perhaps it's because of her style of sex. Physically she is 24, 5'7" and about 115 lbs with average boobs (B plus? I was introduced to her by another ISG member who I met previously and we swapped intel on UTR freelancers. Honestly she was just so so in bed. A bit disappointed that she told me she was an anal only girl. This reminds of some of the girls in Japan who are considered virgins by not letting guys fuck them in the pussy, but ass only is okay. Wish I knew ahead of time before I DATY for like 30 minutes, but not knowing it was going to be all anal all the time. Boring. Anyways for 3000 baht for 90 minutes of DATY, BBBJ, anal sex multiple positions, HJ, with ATM action wasn't too bad. Her BJ skills are below average so I had to finish with an oil handjob with COF. We traded WhatsApp info in case I felt the need bang the brown round on another night. I think I'll pass.

FYI. She almost caught me snapping a photo of her after the session. She said, "You photo me?" I was like "Playing Texas Hold them. " Close call. Don't want the Russian mafia after me. Things I do and risk for ISG sharing.

[QUOTE=NRock;2119906]"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."

I do think that at some point with a girl there is an implicit social contract to pay in-full whether your experience is exactly what you want, or not. And that point is usually at penetration.

Yeah, I understand that if you go to a restaurant and the dish is terrible you can send it back. But you also don't get a refund or discount from a venue if a concert wasn't to your liking, etc. Our hobby probably falls somewhere in between but I tend to honor the agreed upon price and use tips to compensate for performance / enjoyment.[/QUOTE]I think your points and analogy have merit if there is an agreed upon price established beforehand and if it then only comes down to the quality of the meal ordered. But what if in your restaurant analogy no prices were posted on the menu, it was left up to you to decide what to pay on this particular night, the chef said trust me, I know you're going to enjoy tonight's special meal. And when the waiter pulled a bottle of Tabasco Sauce out of his pocket you said, "No Tabasco Sauce for me, please. I really hate hot and spicy food", but he opened the bottle and covered your entire meal with it anyway, making what turned out to be tonight's lousy chef's special meal even more unpaletable? That is much closer to what occurred in my case.

To further the analogy, though, I have no intention of avoiding this restaurant (Thermae) in the future. I have had some pretty good meals there recently and for a reasonable price. But from now on I will stick to my usual pattern of clarifying with the chef what I prefer to eat, no surprise chef special meals, and if the waiter whips out a bottle of Tabasco Sauce, being on greater alert next time I will literally pick up my plate and move it out of his reach until he puts that damn bottle back in his pocket. LOL.

[QUOTE=NRock;2119906]"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that's a good analysis. In Evil's case, if he failed the jump and crashed, that was more entertaining than when he succeeded.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2120012]I'm not sure that's a good analysis. In Evil's case, if he failed the jump and crashed, that was more entertaining than when he succeeded.[/QUOTE]LOL. Good catch. In fact, I think it was implicit in Evil's statement that he knew audiences flocked to his most famous stunts in order to be witness to another of his spectacular failed attempts, not to witness him actually reaching the other side of the canyon safe and sound. That is quite the opposite of what we're talking about here. I doubt a P4P provider would garner many takers if she became more renown for her epic failures than for her happy ending successes.