Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]There are Lao girls all over Nana. You should be able to communicate with Isaan girls easily.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]I hit the report button before I was finished, and I note that 80% of Isaan girls I have met our fluent or semi fluent in Lao. I would also add that when you are in Bangkok or probably any where else in Thailand, and especially if in Laos, do not speak Lao to the cops. And my experience, the street authorities like to fuck with young SE Asian Americans.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2877298]The majority of all bars and clubs go downhill overtime. It is just hard to keep that edge and many managers and owners get burned out and the club suffers. Another thing can happen if you frequent the same bar tor club o often is that the girls think you are part of the furniture and you will always return.[/QUOTE]When repeatedly visit same club, one girl will catch us and hold as her property in further visits. I usually declare that I'm a butterfly so it is my will and accord to choose my favourites. Any way the GFE standard can go down, who cares, but bath can buy anything at the time of spending. No possessiveness, no strings only boom boom is the theory in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]Lao are not allowed to work in bars etc. I know two who are, one works freelance and the other one works illigal (in a bar in soi made in thailand (but in a bar at the back so not directly facing the street). Both have Thaifriendly.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2877285]Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.[/QUOTE]I frequent the place I consider it one of the best if not the best and that is on non-food days only. Like looks etc. When it comes to clubs it isn't too much different in my book. I was there several times in October with family and friends visiting I thought the lineup was better than before to be honest, early in November I went by myself and found it even better. I've never had a problem with drinks pushy going for the last ten years same for me, they stare or come up not my cup of tea I say politely no or later want to look more.

What I did notice during my visit in November, not see Asian groups there were a number usually myself or another but this time two or three groups. Drinks are cheap BF only 350 and standard rate quoted is still 1000 baht.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877209]Better Indicator of No High Season. Mucho more than Bargirls cancelling on our FRIEND.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1314181-thailand-to-move-away-from-foreign-tourism-and-rely-more-on-home-travellers-in-the-latest-tat-masterplan/[/URL][/QUOTE]Agree 100%. A 40% drop (compare to 2019) in estimated revenue is huge!

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]You are in luck.

90% of bar girls speak Isaan, which is virtually identical to Lao.

There are 3 dialects of Isaan, which match the 3 dialects of Lao.

[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2877209]Better Indicator of No High Season. Mucho more than Bargirls cancelling on our FRIEND.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1314181-thailand-to-move-away-from-foreign-tourism-and-rely-more-on-home-travellers-in-the-latest-tat-masterplan/[/URL][/QUOTE]TAT says not so many Chinese tourists coming.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2877325]When repeatedly visit same club, one girl will catch us and hold as her property in further visits. I usually declare that I'm a butterfly so it is my will and accord to choose my favourites......[/QUOTE]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2877396]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?[/QUOTE]A butterfly is a guy who is clear about changing ladies all the time. If someone is "NOT" a butterfly it means the girls expect loyalty. However this is a one way street. Of course she can have different customers because it's "work" and she does for "family".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2877396]I can never understand the concept of butterfly. When a girl holds a monger as her property does she immediately leave the dude she's talking to in a club and go to the monger when he enters?[/QUOTE]Weak willed customers succumb to bargirls telling them about "butterflies". This ends up with the customer buying drinks for her friends, ringing the bell, and some nights going back to the hotel alone because she's with another customer.

Never let a bargirl badger you into becoming "her" property.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2877236]Exposing my newbie status a bit, at least regarding the bar scene, but how would you go about finding Lao girls working here? I'm Lao American and can speak Lao, albeit very, very broken Lao. Would like to try out a Lao girl and see if the chemistry is a little bit better since we'the theoretically be able to communicate a bit better than I am able to with Thais. I usually get girls off of TF. Haven't been to a bar yet because I'm not a bar scene guy at all, but I'm willing to try it out if that's the best avenue through which I could find a Lao girl. Would it be as simple as asking a mamasan which girls are Lao?[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, Pattaya has a huge selection of true Laos girls working here. For example, there are two working at Play Girlz go go. There are plenty working in Soi 6 and many freelancers on TF and in the clubs on WS working. I kinda consider myself an expert on this. I have been in Thailand for 14 years and I have had 5 Laos Gfs and bagged many more ST and LT from clubs and go go bars and Thai Friendly. My current Laos girl I am seeing is from a live stream. The problem is they look very similar to Thai woman, especially the Isaan girls, so most guys think they are Thai. They typically have lighter skin, but not in all cases.

They won't volunteer to tell you they are Laos because they are mostly all working here illegally. However, I can spot them a mile away. To me, an open minded Laos girl is a better fuck than a Thai girl.

There are also plenty working in Bangkok too. In Soi Cowboy, Nana, and freelancing on TF and in the clubs. In Bangkok, many are legal with MOUs and freelance on the side. The ones working in the bars will pay for their MOU as a laborer but actually they just work as a freelancer or in a bar. This is less common in Pattaya as Pattaya is easier for them to blend in and work illegally. There are just so many girls here.

One last point. I travel to Laos frequently, so I would also suggest a trip to Vientiane. Others say there is no monger scene there. They are sadly mistaken. You just have to be in the know.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2877330]Lao are not allowed to work in bars etc. I know two who are, one works freelance and the other one works illigal (in a bar in soi made in thailand (but in a bar at the back so not directly facing the street). Both have Thaifriendly.[/QUOTE]There are a lot more here than you think.

[QUOTE=MGavin;2877285]Is it just me or anyone else also thinks that Kinnaree is going downhill from last few months.

I am a regular there but month by month the standards are dropping and girls are getting pushy for drinks for them and friends.

There are many better gents club are coming up these days.[/QUOTE]In the past, 100% of the girls there were freelance. Meaning that they make their 50 baht per drink and whatever they get from you for doing a ST in the room. However, Kineree has started to hire a few girls on 10 day contracts. This means that they now get a salary which is dependent on how many drinks are bought for them. So, if going down hill in your mind is only about pushing for lady drinks, this is the reason why. If you also think the standards are down, meaning the girls are less attractive recently, there is a reason for that too. The reason is that it's high season. During high season, the girls will be busy freelancing on TF getting more money or they will take a high paying go go bar job during high season. I know 2 Pin up girls that freelance at Kineree in the off seasons. So, when it's slow in Pattaya, they move to a gents club to capitalize on making money from the local expats. In high season, they can find money in the normal ways. From October onwards, many new bars opened and existing bars started to advertise for jobs. Agents pushed to find ladies to work and the girls were offered higher salaries. Therefore, right now, the better girls are not working in Kineree. They will be bak though after a few months to the slums with us soon lol. Hope this helps. I too am a long time customer here, as well as other Gents clubs in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2877483]However, Kineree has started to hire a few girls on 10 day contracts. This means that they now get a salary which is dependent on how many drinks are bought for them. So, if going down hill in your mind is only about pushing for lady drinks, this is the reason why.[/QUOTE]This is not a good thing at all. I'm assuming these are just the regularl Kinnaree girls and not like when they hold a birthday party for one of their regular customers. At those parties Kinnaree brings gogo girls from BKK gogo bars and Sapphire to dance on tables and give lap dances for drinks. Those are the best Kinnaree days.