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When the navel gazing generation Y understand the P4P world they will realize that working girls generally avoid these youngsters. From having spoken to countless girls over the years I know this as fact and I'll tell you why.

Firstly they are a lousy shag, all dick and no brain. They finish quickly which is usually a plus for the lady but they are never satisfied and so the lady endures endless senseless pounding before being able to get out of there.

Now comes payment, being the arrogant self-styled young stud he believes himself to be he feels rather than paying her she should be honored that he choose to spend his precious time with her and getting all of her money can sometimes be a problem.

Thirdly their self-centered ego allows them to have no interest in their companion instead she has to listen to endless banal claptrap about his often imaginary achievements.

Generosity, respect, hygiene, sense of humor, being a considerate experienced lover comes before age and yes I have often got the eye from a young lady being chatted up by a boring 30 year old.

Now just to be clear I'm talking here about the P4 P scene. When it comes to normal dating certainly the kids have the edge with younger professional educated Thai girls.

However even here the arrogant conceited know all will face the same challenges when his personality becomes known.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121969]Why would offering BBFS for an extra 500 baht be a scam? [/QUOTE]Sounds fair to me.

[QUOTE=Lee66;2121755]I have had some luck in China town [/QUOTE]Where's the action in China town haven't tried that yet thanks.

On soi 4 I went st for 1200 thb with 3 girls. A about 3 times. Next day I went with new girl she want 1000 for st I said with or without she say with of course, I told her I use microbicde gel instead, of condom, she says can not. Later same night I pass walking and she says 1500, I say ok. We go. A fe w Days later I went with one I went with before for 1200 , we go and when finish she say 1700. She say some story about her rent is due. I think a lot of girks there know each other, most other girls need condom so I left. Went to ac, never had a problem till 3 months ago. Men sex men spreading hiv, the "clinic" the girls go to seems to have failed to tell them who was largely responsible for the big increase in hiv rate in that country. A lot of girls were wanting guys to use condom, but when take them, they don't mention it, so for me. It was business as usual.

[QUOTE=Lee66;2122067]On soi 4 I went st for 1200 thb with 3 girls. A about 3 times. Next day I went with new girl she want 1000 for st I said with or without she say with of course, I told her I use microbicde gel instead, of condom, she says can not. Later same night I pass walking and she says 1500, I say ok. We go. A fe w Days later I went with one I went with before for 1200 , we go and when finish she say 1700. She say some story about her rent is due. I think a lot of girks there know each other, most other girls need condom so I left. Went to ac, never had a problem till 3 months ago. Men sex men spreading hiv, the "clinic" the girls go to seems to have failed to tell them who was largely responsible for the big increase in hiv rate in that country. A lot of girls were wanting guys to use condom, but when take them, they don't mention it, so for me. It was business as usual.[/QUOTE]Just read your post. It is so tempting. Could you tell which microbicde gel are you using?

Thanks.

Jb.

[QUOTE=Lee66;2122067]On soi 4 I went st for 1200 thb with 3 girls. A about 3 times. Next day I went with new girl she want 1000 for st I said with or without she say with of course, I told her I use microbicde gel instead, of condom, she says can not. Later same night I pass walking and she says 1500, I say ok. We go. A fe w Days later I went with one I went with before for 1200 , we go and when finish she say 1700. She say some story about her rent is due. I think a lot of girks there know each other, most other girls need condom so I left. Went to ac, never had a problem till 3 months ago. Men sex men spreading hiv, the "clinic" the girls go to seems to have failed to tell them who was largely responsible for the big increase in hiv rate in that country. A lot of girls were wanting guys to use condom, but when take them, they don't mention it, so for me. It was business as usual.[/QUOTE]1200 thb most I've ever been quoted on Soi 4 is 1000ST sometimes less and always goood.

The clinics have been counselling the girls on condoms in Thailand and Philippines and probably worldwide grr. Fortunately they don't provide them with rent checks and shopping money.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2122007]When the navel gazing generation Y understand the P4P world they will realize that working girls generally avoid these youngsters. From having spoken to countless girls over the years I know this as fact and I'll tell you why.

Firstly they are a lousy shag, all dick and no brain. They finish quickly which is usually a plus for the lady but they are never satisfied and so the lady endures endless senseless pounding before being able to get out of there.

Now comes payment, being the arrogant self-styled young stud he believes himself to be he feels rather than paying her she should be honored that he choose to spend his precious time with her and getting all of her money can sometimes be a problem.

Thirdly their self-centered ego allows them to have no interest in their companion instead she has to listen to endless banal claptrap about his often imaginary achievements.

Generosity, respect, hygiene, sense of humor, being a considerate experienced lover comes before age and yes I have often got the eye from a young lady being chatted up by a boring 30 year old.

Now just to be clear I'm talking here about the P4 P scene. When it comes to normal dating certainly the kids have the edge with younger professional educated Thai girls.

However even here the arrogant conceited know all will face the same challenges when his personality becomes known.[/QUOTE]This is not an inaccurate generalization whatsoever / s.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2122007]When the navel gazing generation Y understand the P4P world they will realize that working girls generally avoid these youngsters. From having spoken to countless girls over the years I know this as fact and I'll tell you why.

Firstly they are a lousy shag, all dick and no brain. They finish quickly which is usually a plus for the lady but they are never satisfied and so the lady endures endless senseless pounding before being able to get out of there.

Now comes payment, being the arrogant self-styled young stud he believes himself to be he feels rather than paying her she should be honored that he choose to spend his precious time with her and getting all of her money can sometimes be a problem.

Thirdly their self-centered ego allows them to have no interest in their companion instead she has to listen to endless banal claptrap about his often imaginary achievements.

Generosity, respect, hygiene, sense of humor, being a considerate experienced lover comes before age and yes I have often got the eye from a young lady being chatted up by a boring 30 year old.

Now just to be clear I'm talking here about the P4 P scene. When it comes to normal dating certainly the kids have the edge with younger professional educated Thai girls.

However even here the arrogant conceited know all will face the same challenges when his personality becomes known.[/QUOTE]Look. Some older people are rotten, some younger people are rotten. Don't act like people's worth depends on their age.

[QUOTE=Dog7979;2122195]This is not an inaccurate generalization whatsoever / s.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct. It is an accurate generalization.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2122007]When the navel gazing generation Y understand the P4P world they will realize that working girls generally avoid these youngsters. From having spoken to countless girls over the years I know this as fact and I'll tell you why.

Firstly they are a lousy shag, all dick and no brain. They finish quickly which is usually a plus for the lady but they are never satisfied and so the lady endures endless senseless pounding before being able to get out of there.

Now comes payment, being the arrogant self-styled young stud he believes himself to be he feels rather than paying her she should be honored that he choose to spend his precious time with her and getting all of her money can sometimes be a problem.

Thirdly their self-centered ego allows them to have no interest in their companion instead she has to listen to endless banal claptrap about his often imaginary achievements.

Generosity, respect, hygiene, sense of humor, being a considerate experienced lover comes before age and yes I have often got the eye from a young lady being chatted up by a boring 30 year old.

Now just to be clear I'm talking here about the P4 P scene. When it comes to normal dating certainly the kids have the edge with younger professional educated Thai girls.

However even here the arrogant conceited know all will face the same challenges when his personality becomes known.[/QUOTE]So true. When I was younger and first visited Asia, I thought the girls should be charging me far less than they charged the ugly, fat, bald, old dudes. Now I realize that they should have been charging me more because I was shagging the hell out of them. Now that I'm old, I'm one and done very quickly for the most part. Easy money for them. The last thing those working girls need is a sore pussy from a hard all night shagging.

[QUOTE=Lee66;2121755]I have had some luck in China town and soi 4. Not as good as it used to be. I used a microbicide gel and that helped, now there is pre exposure prophilaxis but the girls don't under stand that one yet. Also, you can offer a tip , some girls on soi 4 have a scam, , offering it with 500 thb extra i dont go to the bars or massage parlors so i dont about them.[/QUOTE]It's only a scam because you don't to want to pay more. However in truth, girl has extra risk of catching a simple STD like Gonnoreah so she accordingly ups the price. Basic STDs are still relatively easy to catch with girls doing a lot of barebacking or visa versa. Girls that bareback for many years will have a reasonable chance of HIV (if unlucky) although it has been declining.

[QUOTE=Zman429;2122133]1200 thb most I've ever been quoted on Soi 4 is 1000ST sometimes less and always goood.

The clinics have been counselling the girls on condoms in Thailand and Philippines and probably worldwide grr. [/QUOTE]Ha ha sounds like bullshit. You probably mean you never paid more than 1000. Plenty of better looking girls on Soi 4 are asking for 1500, as their starting price. I have the experience. I don't know if all will go down to 1000. The attempted price may be something to do with how the customer looks, I don't know, however I speak to them only in Thai. I have not been with a huge number of Soi 4 girls in recent times. All but one was disappointing in performance or standard of the body once the clothes came off. I don't like the general quickie attitude which may be OK for some. Still you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121473]I guess we all have our own tastes. Gal has a magnificent body, well that is if she was child free and I imagine she was, but I just don't like the facial work, namely the nose jobs, botox, and rear jaw shaving that you see so much in Thermae and GoGos like Sensations in Pattaya. It's a shame these gals feel the need to alter themselves in that way. There is one older gal in Tmae that is a plastic surgery nightmare. Looks like something out of a horror movie. Many of these gals will end up like that if they continue down that road.[/QUOTE]Just one horror in Thermae? LOL For once I mainly agree with you, except that I don't have problem with girls with babies if damage is very low. I do like immaculate figures where possible. It is a major turn on for me, more so than the services provided. Obviously I need some skills or enthusiasm too. The simple reason is that very few of my regular girls are childless. Girls with babies are less scared of dick and on average are much better fucks for me. Experienced girls tend to be better. I do have one regular aged 21 with no child, a fairly wild and energetic fucker, definitely likes a good fuck, even though she cums only sometimes maybe 30 to 40% (she doesn't see the need to lie about it), but I have known her since Crazy House first opened so she is experienced from a very young age. LOL She is much more horny if did not fuck for a few days. Stands to reason.

For me trying a new girl, risk of bad session is just so much higher with childless girls, however that maybe just for me. As years go by I see that I am dissatisfied with a first time experience more and more easily. I am sure the problem is mine in that I can get put off the experience more and more easily, where a young guy is so horny, almost nothing will upset his enjoyment. Almost every girl was good when I was 35. LOL Dick scared girls have got more and more prevalent. I just can't work out why that is. Probably just means the girls do not have the same mindset to enjoy themselves. Now I have very few regulars left.

Unlike you, I am not looking for just a service. I like girls that are into enjoying sex. I never seem to enjoy that much, if girls are not into it. My psychological problem. Hence my difficulty to find enough great girls.

I do think the percentage of hookers willing to enjoy sex has decreased a lot over the years. Perhaps correlated to my increasing age, I don't know. Perhaps I am less easily fooled. However very smart girls know how to play sweet to me to get me hooked if they want me again. One girl likes to tongue kiss me a real lot, more than expected. I don't know if that is just from being a smart worker or she really is into it a bit. Is orgasmic on the bed from DATY.

Maybe the attitude to guys looking for P4 P has changed a lot. In old days the girls may have been looking for prospective boyfriends or benefactors, but less so in the modern day. Not easy to understand completely why the change.

A bit of Thai Culture for the Newbies:

All my regular girls sent me a Happy Christmas message. Ha ha. In the very old days, girls did not even know which day was Christmas since it is not a Thai thing. 25 years ago, Christmas decorations appeared before Christmas for the tourists but on Christmas day, absolutely nothing happened. Thais of course celebrate and give gifts on New Year's Eve. That is the day to wish your Thai girls Happy New Year. In Thai we have the expression "Sor Khor Sor" (using greeting cards or e-cards) which is abbreviated form of "Song Khwaam Suk" which literally means "Send Happiness"

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2122347]Just one horror in Thermae? LOL For once I mainly agree with you, except that I don't have problem with girls with babies if damage is very low. I do like immaculate figures where possible. It is a major turn on for me, more so than the services provided. Obviously I need some skills or enthusiasm too. The simple reason is that very few of my regular girls are childless. Girls with babies are less scared of dick and on average are much better fucks for me. Experienced girls tend to be better. I do have one regular aged 21 with no child, a fairly wild and energetic fucker, definitely likes a good fuck, even though she cums only sometimes maybe 30 to 40% (she doesn't see the need to lie about it), but I have known her since Crazy House first opened so she is experienced from a very young age. LOL She is much more horny if did not fuck for a few days. Stands to reason.

For me trying a new girl, risk of bad session is just so much higher with childless girls, however that maybe just for me. As years go by I see that I am dissatisfied with a first time experience more and more easily. I am sure the problem is mine in that I can get put off the experience more and more easily, where a young guy is so horny, almost nothing will upset his enjoyment. Almost every girl was good when I was 35. LOL Dick scared girls have got more and more prevalent. I just can't work out why that is. Probably just means the girls do not have the same mindset to enjoy themselves. Now I have very few regulars left.

Unlike you, I am not looking for just a service. I like girls that are into enjoying sex. I never seem to enjoy that much, if girls are not into it. My psychological problem. Hence my difficulty to find enough great girls.

I do think the percentage of hookers willing to enjoy sex has decreased a lot over the years. Perhaps correlated to my increasing age, I don't know. Perhaps I am less easily fooled. However very smart girls know how to play sweet to me to get me hooked if they want me again. One girl likes to tongue kiss me a real lot, more than expected. I don't know if that is just from being a smart worker or she really is into it a bit. Is orgasmic on the bed from DATY.

Maybe the attitude to guys looking for P4 P has changed a lot. In old days the girls may have been looking for prospective boyfriends or benefactors, but less so in the modern day. Not easy to understand completely why the change.[/QUOTE]Actually I am not just about service, and as I get into my 50's I am finding that looks are more important than they used to be. Yes, it is a lot better if the gal enjoys herself, or at least pretends to do so.

Your last sentence sums it up. Back in the day the idea was to land a boyfriend / husband who would "take care. " If you did not land one by late 20's; well, they were kind of out of luck. Every gal you took was making a sales pitch to you and showing you what you would get if she was your choice for a GF / wife.

Now, with the big money these gals make that has changed. All they care about is that quick big buck. They think it is going to last forever, but it's not. I saw a lot of gals in Sensations Pattaya that were near or at their expiration dates. And, most Asian dudes are not going to enter into long term relationships with P4 P gals and the gals know this, so service has changed accordingly. I think some of these gals are going to have a bit of a struggle as they get into their 30's and put on 10 kilos.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2122347]In old days the girls may have been looking for prospective boyfriends or benefactors, but less so in the modern day. Not easy to understand completely why the change.[/QUOTE]I think the profile of girls has changed significantly, especially in the freelancer scene. In the past there was a fair number of younger girls (mid-late 20's who think they're getting old), part-timers, dabblers and in-betweeners. Even full-time bargirls often saw hooking as a temporary stopgap, and were looking to get out.

For the last few years, we've mostly been getting the bottom of the barrel hardcore hookers who don't really want or see a way out, have major issues are not good enough to snag a BF / husband (even among the gullible Farang) and have resigned to the fact that they can't cope with the "normal" world anymore. Few of them can even manage to be convincingly nice for a short time session, let along longer.

Moreover, as Goatscrot said, going rates are so high these days that a day of several minimum-effort short times far exceed benefits of snagging a punter for several days or longer. Demand is high enough and supply limited enough that even average girls can get enough customers at these inflated prices.