Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Buck011;2879004]Agree. Buying one drink for lets say the interviewing process. But. Why wasting time & money on drinks sitting with girls who barely speak English anyway?

Soi6 is not really my thing but couple of years ago I visited Red point bar just asked the girls sitting outside which one does anal and took one upstairs.

No drinks no crap conversations, just agreed on price (I think it was 800+room) and went to the room.[/QUOTE]Hanging out with the girls can be a blast if you find the ones that want to laugh and have a good time. And that's not too hard. After 20 years here, whenever I don't have anything to do one option is heading down to Soi 6, get drunk and mess around with the babes before going up stairs. By the way, they love playing games like (4 in a row) and they love gambling on it. If you hear someplace that just went crazy laud for no reason, there is a good chance one of them either won or lost something. I was down there last week and a girl at the bar I was at hit the lottery for 20,000 and the place exploded. Then she starting buying drinks for everybody, and I am almost positive she was broke by the end of the night. By the way, I don't hang out with them because they are the smartest people in the world.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2879020]I couldn't agree more, but it is more nuanced for me. There is one GC in Pattaya (LE Poste) that I really wanted to like. It has a reputation for decent girls and is open in the afternoon before the street action gets going. I had barely cleared the entry and could not see much because of coming in out of the sunshine and I was ushered to the bar and asked for a lady drink. Long story shorter, I asked to be allowed for my eyes to adjust, a minute to relax and sip my beer and sent the lady away. About 30 seconds later the next girl just walked up and asked me to buy her a drink. I politely declined and told her she was not the type I was looking for. I sent 4 girls away in less than 5 minutes and finally asked the mama / manager if I could get a few minutes to look around and enjoy one beer before being asked again. She said "sure" and of course about a minute later here comes another lady. I politely told her no, stood up and told the mama she had lost a potential good customer and more than a few drinks and ST from me all because she didn't respect my request and walked out. Never is a long time, but I do not plan on darkening that doorstep anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

I am the same as you in a sense that when I first enter the bar, I want a few minutes to get the lay of the land. I just pull my phone out, put my head down and drink. In Cat Flaps, I even had girls sit down beside me during this exercise. I just said hi and my head went back down to my phone. One time, the girl sat thaere beside me for 15 minutes with me ignoring her. Finally she got the hint and left. After about 20-30 minutes, I decided who I wanted and then the party began. Don't be so serious. You may have had a good time if you had of just ignored them at first. I myself have no qualms about ignoring them.

Now about this bar, I have been in there several times and the routine that you described is the same routine as I witnessed. Actually what I did here was just banter back and forth with whoever it was that came over, felt up her ass and tits a little and then sent the ones away I didn't like. Then when a liked one, I invited her to drink. In this place you can do this kind of a test drive lol. Really you were just being too serious. Relax more in Pattaya. I don't know why some guys walk into a bar and immediately get their guard up for these kinds of things. They already have the reply on the tip of their tongues and blurt it out before the girl can even finish their sentence. If Pattaya puts that much stress on a guy, it's really not the place for them to be. Do what I do. Either ignore them or have a little fun. No need to be so uptight. Just my opinion and nothing personal mate. Finally, the manager and the girls could care less if they lost you as a customer. That I will tell you right now. Unless you are a regular who spends thousands there weekly, they could give two shits about you.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami;2879028] People will complain about anything. Really, too many girls keep approaching you wanting to fuck, and that bothers you. I am sure you have exactly the same issue back in your home country.[/QUOTE]

Trevor from Buzzin Lounge has the same attitude as you. He forces his girls to stay away from the customers until they are called over. Guess what? Customers complained that the girls would not approach them lol. Go figure. Bill is onto something here I think.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2878787]Exactly, huge issue at the moment. The assumption is that the women in these bars are available, but there are a ton of them floating about that are drinks only. At first I thought that maybe it was just a few girls who did not like the cut of my jib, but that's not the case there are drinks only girls in a lot of the bars now.

Who the fuck flies halfway across the word to drink in a shitty dive bar and talk broken pigeon English to a bar girl you can't fuck?[/QUOTE]Honestly, I used to think the same as you. However, it's not the case. That's what they might tell you, but I know it's just an excuse. In gents clubs, they would not be hired under those circumstances and the same on soi 6. Soi 6 girls are told they have to allow ST. They may refuse LT though. In the go go bars there are plenty of girls that say that they are drinks only. Anyways, I still think it's just an excuse. Why? Let me tell you a story. About 2 months ago I was in Co Co on walking street. I asked one lady over and bought her one drink. During our conversation I found out what every monger should find out in the first few minutes that she only works for drinks. I said no problem and called over another lady who was quite happy to drink with me and agreed to being bar fined. Now, after 2 hours and many drinks later, the first girl comes back and sits down beside me when my girl had left for the toilet. She says she really likes me and wants to go with me now. Even tells me how she will suck my cock so goooood. I said "What changed your mind"? She tells me that she only goes with Asians because they are polite, don't talk too much, and they are generous. She said she witnessed me being "Jai dee" which means kind in Thai and wanted to go with me now.

So, there you have it. 9/10 times when a Pattaya bar girls tells you she only works for drinks, it's because of a reason like this. They all go, believe me. Just maybe not with everyone.

A common scam, if you have social media contacts for the ladies:

I went with a lady a few times, but then she got a sponsor and went home to Isaan.

This week, she messaged me to say she was coming back to work in Pattaya, and needed a contact at a bar (which I gave her).

Today, I made the mistake of asking her when she was coming. Of course, she responded that she needed money to come to Pattaya.

The reality:

1) If you send messages to a bargirl, its only a matter of time before she asks for money. Even if you mostly just responding to your messages.

2) the scam is that ladies in Isaan ask many men for money under the pretext they are coming to Pattaya, but usually they want to continue living in their village with their Thai boyfriend, and maybe need cash to buy him gold.

Never send money to a lady living in Isaan.

Funny stuff.

As I was ordering my Pattaya Big Mc meal it did cross my mind how much the Employees were making.

I needed to know their business model.

Especially now that they are charging 10 baht to use bathroom.

No offense but hearing about business angle of Soi 6 bars from a guy who bought 40 drinks and self banned himself for 6 months is hysterically funny.

Concerning "drinks only" ladies. What's up with that?

Some ladies indeed make so much baht from drinks that they don't want to leave the bar.

Some ladies have sponsors, who let them work bar if they promise not to go with customers. However, such ladies may go if they are convinced you don't know their sponsor (s).

Some ladies have Thai boyfriends who they tell they are drinks only. They may go with a customer if they are sure their boyfriend won't find out. Sometimes the boyfriend will be playing pool in a bar across the street. If he isn't there, the lady can go with you.

Of course, money trumps all such issues, pay them enough and they will go. That's the Korean approach.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2879037]In this place you can do this kind of a test drive lol. Really you were just being too serious. Relax more in Pattaya. I don't know why some guys walk into a bar and immediately get their guard up for these kinds of things. They already have the reply on the tip of their tongues and blurt it out before the girl can even finish their sentence. If Pattaya puts that much stress on a guy, it's really not the place for them to be. Do what I do. Either ignore them or have a little fun. No need to be so uptight. Just my opinion and nothing personal mate. Finally, the manager and the girls could care less if they lost you as a customer. That I will tell you right now. Unless you are a regular who spends thousands there weekly, they could give two shits about you.


[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. My post may have come across as being "heavy handed", and it was not intended that way. Trust me I am under NO illusion that any girl or owner really gives a shit whether I stay or leave. I am just one more of a long line of swinging dicks to enter and give them an opportunity to relieve me of as many Baht as I am willing to hand over. LOL.

I am not a hard ass at all, and I was more than cordial when I told the ladies I was not interested in buying a drink for them at that moment. I will admit that I actually dislike telling the girls "NO" for about reasonable request, and maybe I just need to grow a set and tell them "NO" in a kind way and not let their process ruin my mood. Maybe I would have had a great time there, I know I was looking forward to visiting. I'll try to remember your comments the next time I find myself in a similar situation. It will make me smile and see if another approach works better! TIA.

[QUOTE=BillMiami;2879028]Really, too many girls keep approaching you wanting to fuck, and that bothers you. I am sure you have exactly the same issue back in your home country.[/QUOTE]Its LE POSTE. Trust me most girls you wouldn't touch with a stick.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2879068]Thanks for the reply. My post may have come across as being "heavy handed", and it was not intended that way. Trust me I am under NO illusion that any girl or owner really gives a shit whether I stay or leave. I am just one more of a long line of swinging dicks to enter and give them an opportunity to relieve me of as many Baht as I am willing to hand over. LOL.

I am not a hard ass at all, and I was more than cordial when I told the ladies I was not interested in buying a drink for them at that moment. I will admit that I actually dislike telling the girls "NO" for about reasonable request, and maybe I just need to grow a set and tell them "NO" in a kind way and not let their process ruin my mood. Maybe I would have had a great time there, I know I was looking forward to visiting. I'll try to remember your comments the next time I find myself in a similar situation. It will make me smile and see if another approach works better! TIA.[/QUOTE]Next time start groping them and feeling their ass. Take a free test drive LOL.

I have been in Pattaya for about a week so far. It has been a letdown. That being said, I'm very much an introvert and I do not approach mongering the typical way that seems to work for everyone else that mongers here. This is also not my first trip here, so I do not believe it's just newbie's folly.

Anyway, expanding on things a bit, I exclusively do my mongering through TF and dating apps like Tinder, Badoo, Omi, etc. I have also networked a little bit this trip via friends of friends and friends of extended family. I am not big into the bar scene at all; I have not bar fined a single girl this trip.

Prices: Most I have spent so far is 3000ST. Outside of one 2500ST and one 3000ST, the range for ST has been 1000-2000, with the overwhelming majority of girls being paid 1500. I initially offered 1500ST right off the bat, but I then started to ask what a girl wanted for ST and was pleasantly surprised getting offers lower than 1500. For these lower offers I'd counter 1500 with the caveat that a facial or cum in mouth was necessary.

Experiences: I have been fucking about 2-3 women a day for the past week. Sunday was an exception as it was the day of rest, so I naturally only bedded 1 girl. I do not have the time or patience to recount every fuck, but I will recount a few and summarize my thoughts.

22 year old spinner off of TF: Profile picture showed a petite and pale woman in a sexy bikini. Checked all my boxes so I sent her the script. I asked her how much ST, and she countered with how much would I pay her? Smart girl. I offered 2500ST if I could facial her and have her clean up the rest with her mouth. She accepted quickly. I must've offered over what she was expecting. She comes over and is a petite and sexy-shaped girl, but she has facial acne and is very tan. Not a newbie and I'm well aware of the filter prowess amongst the girls, so I really should have expected this, but I was still a bit disappointed. She showers and we get in bed. And she just lays there giggling. Then several minutes more giggling and giggling about how she is just freelancing because she needs money for her room. I ask her about her picture looking like she's clearly in a bar, but she shakes her head and says "no like bar, no like work bar". I nod, ok honey, and move her to my cock. She performs a very lackluster blowjob. I pull her off and position her for doggy. Start fucking her for a bit. Haven't cum yet and she's starts the "oh, baby, cum" script. I flip her over and have her missionary. She starts fake moaning and it's quite the mood-killer. I'm a bit annoyed at this point and just pretend I've finished. Hand her the money and she's off to take a shower. Except she takes a good 15 minutes in the bathroom just using her phone. Tell her hey, old brother has to sleep and you got to go, babe. She giggles and showers in like a minute. She dresses and is like I go bar now. I stupidly ask her "I thought you didn't work at a bar"? She says no, just work tomboy bar and shows me Tiktoks about the tomboy bar. She shows me a picture of a tomboy that had the surgery to remove her breasts. Riveting stuff. Try to politely get her to leave, but she's still showing me pictures of the tomboy bar. She can't read the room or just doesn't care, so I just flat out tell her ok, honey, you have to go now. I have to sleep. She smiles and starts to leave before asking if she could grab one of my condoms to-go. Decline politely. Old brother has some use for those later. Very disappointing experience and I needed to try again before the night was over. 3/10 experience.

Same night African escort: After the 22-year old dud, I needed to pop off before I passed out. Found a curvy African woman on TF. Tell her 1500 right now ST. She says ok but you pay me 2000. In line with the reputation of African freelancers and in line with how personal negotiations with them have gone in the past. I tell her okay, but for 2000 you are getting facialed, baby. She confirms. She gets to my apartment 20 ish minutes later. Security guy gives me a surprised and amused look when the African broad gives her ID. Give him a 100 baht tip and tell him it's okay, brother. He's suddenly a good friend and ushers me in front of the Russians waiting for the elevator ahead of me. African girl clearly inebriated and is all the place. Taking a Tiktok in the elevator and I'm frantically trying to get out of the way of the camera. We get into the room and she dives at my pants and has my cock in her mouth less than a minute into the room. My kind of girl. She goes through the full sequence. Slow and tantalizing, fast and porn-star like, hand and tongue action. Tell her it's time to fuck. She says okay, I want you to fuck me doggystyle, baby. I oblige. Fucking phenomenal ass. Something you rarely see with Thai women. After a bit of time, I'm ready to finish and I pull her in and facial her. She makes sure to clean up with her mouth. Fucking phenomenal. Best session so far this trip. Tells me to save her number and get in touch if I ever feel horny. I might have to hit her up considering how most of these sessions with Thai girls have gone, but I am doing my best to not repeat with any of these broads. 9/10 experience.

Several other sessions, but I don't really feel like typing them up at the moment. Might come back to post more after the trip is over. I don't know why, but overall, the sessions with Thais this time around have been very disappointing. I am not sure if I am coming back to Pattaya for a while. I am thinking next trip may be somewhere in Africa. Not sure. Still have another week here, so I may change my mind on Pattaya yet again.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2879099]

Experiences: I have been fucking about 2-3 women a day for the past week. Sunday was an exception as it was the day of rest, so I naturally only bedded 1 girl. I do not have the time or patience to recount every fuck.[/QUOTE]Other than you being let down by a girl you built up in your mind as a stunner and hiring an African chick, which I would never do, I think you are doing pretty good for yourself. In my humble opinion, I think you seem to be missing that rapport building thing you get from the little bit of time spent with a bar girl before the bar fine. Might I suggest a gents club? I think it will tick all your boxes.

1. Time to build a little rapport with the girl over a drink or 2.

2. For ST, no bar fine, just a small room charge.

3. You can view the line up and interview a few choices before making your selection.

4 laid back atmosphere as they cater to mostly expats.

TF is really a delivery service and that's it. You can't always make the right choice with photos.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2879078]Its LE POSTE. Trust me most girls you wouldn't touch with a stick.[/QUOTE]There were a couple of nice ones there, but that was 6-8 months ago. I have no been back since. Here are some photos. It's not the worst line up I have seen. One of these ladies took care of me real well on multiple occasions.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2878979]Amen. I don't recall getting any business help from Soi 6 bar owners when I was busto. Now that I'm robusto who cares about bar owners.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this point. I am just saying that guys should not get so upset when they walk into a bar and get pressured to buy drinks. That's all. Buy or don't buy. It's up to you.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2879099]

Several other sessions, but I don't really feel like typing them up at the moment. Might come back to post more after the trip is over. I don't know why, but overall, the sessions with Thais this time around have been very disappointing. I am not sure if I am coming back to Pattaya for a while. I am thinking next trip may be somewhere in Africa. Not sure. Still have another week here, so I may change my mind on Pattaya yet again.[/QUOTE]Yes mate you will like the scene in Africa. Go to Kampala and have amazing girls for a fraction of the price you pay in Thailand. Just before covid I was paying the equivalent of 400-800 baht. Or Mombasa if you like spending daytime on beach. At the moment the local currency is very weak so you will get a good bang for your buck for sure. Downside is hotels in Africa at leat double the cost compared to Thailand. Best looking girls are in Gambia IMHO but the scene is very small. But worth checking out.