Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1701599]Thanks Jackie for info, headed tomorrow. It's funny because my friends and I use to surf baja and party in Ensenada. The "Paris" strip club. The ladies there charge around $90 - 120. Based on looks and negocios. My bud still goes says 1000 pesos is happily accepted. It's a joke Tijuana is now on par with a legit vacation spot. I guess the ladies would have to band. To make that work. Looks like beers at HK and shopping else where for me. If I was Asian I would be even more pissed. LOL I wonder what they are being fleeced for now. Actually I would be sad to hear.[/QUOTE]Surf and party Ensenada? Don't be surprise if I run into you in the lineups one of these days. We'll have morenthings to talk about than the tide. About around January, the SG banded together to do the same. Push pricing up. But they cracked after 3-4 weeks. It only takes one or two to break with the standard price for the cartel to crack.

BTW this Asian do feel fleeced. But only momentarily as I find new treasures in the alley.

Was in there last Thursday. Checked scene for a while a few stunners walking around sat with a few beers and cigars as usual about a 6 comes up to me lap dances me for a while good dick rub. Immediately waiters all over me to buy the chick a drink she wants to go upstairs she says 80 I laugh and say too high then she says 60 was not really into her but she was sweet. Waiter comes back trying to push flowers and more drinks I say no as she does as well. Now keep in kind these broads can smell a simp or mark a mile away. The Idea is to give off an aloof vibe. Remember guys women are women weather she is secretary or a stripper keep it playa always you are the prize not them. Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more. The MX peso is in free fall the Mexican bank is propping up the peso some FX analysts predict that it fall to 17 by years end. As a result inflation is occurring that is why these girls are quoting high prices. FROM Now on everybody Pay in Pesos no more dollars. That is the only way to combat this. A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate. With that being said do not buy drinks give tips unless they dance really well and deserve it. These broads are becoming way too lazy and spoiled. Constantly on there cell phones texting if most of us did that at our jobs we would be fired. This club is getting over on all of us if we allow them to. Remember as the consumer we vote with our pocket book. I have the evolution some of us vets can remember when Chicago was what HK was today and Adelitas. HK uses to be what tropical bar is now. Eventually HK will suffer the same fate as the above mentioned.

Be safe and keep it playa.

[QUOTE=RickyVee;1702018] Immediately waiters all over me to buy the chick a drink she wants to go upstairs she says 80 I laugh and say too high then she says 60 was not really into her but she was sweet. Waiter comes back trying to push flowers and more drinks I say no as she does as well. Now keep in kind these broads can smell a simp or mark a mile away. The Idea is to give off an aloof vibe. Remember guys women are women weather she is secretary or a stripper keep it playa always you are the prize not them. Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more. FROM Now on everybody Pay in Pesos no more dollars. That is the only way to combat this. A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate. With that being said do not buy drinks give tips unless they dance really well and deserve it. These broads are becoming way too lazy and spoiled.

Be safe and keep it playa.[/QUOTE]This post needs to be re-posted every week. If you are a newbie, you are only excused once. If you are a trust fund baby. You are never excused. Stop being stupid you are hurting your self and us "working class slaves" - more $ only leads to the ladies higher standard of living and less desperation. This is why they are in the bar. Ruin that. And All our fun goes out the window.

[QUOTE=RickyVee;1702018]...Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more.....A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1702257]...If you are a newbie, you are only excused once. If you are a trust fund baby. You are never excused. Stop being stupid you are hurting your self and us "working class slaves"[/QUOTE]Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.

No disrespect to anybody on this forum. Money is an object, nothing more or less. It is about the principle of the matter. The whole point in mongering at these clubs is for a variety which is the spice of life. We are all tricks period, some just trick more dollars off then others. If you up your game by learning the customs and language you will have a better overall experience. In this day and age it still shocks me that most mongers are unable to see this correlation. Attraction is in the eye of the beholder and some are willing to pay more but that does not necessarily translate to a better sexual experience. I have dated / sexed with many women LTR's ONS working girls MILFS, Tall ones, short ones, hot ones, skinny one,s fat ones, you name it, I stabbed it. Sometimes the girl that is seemingly the least attractive you can end up having better sexual comparability with.

I think if you find a BG that tickles your fancy maybe you should see her outside of club. In fact it is a better overall deal to go the escort route on Mexico's Craigslist. It seems as though many want the holy grail the ultimate GFE in a BG. If you want that then I suggest you go to civilian club there are plenty of women in the Gaslamp in SD who fit that bill. The majority of us mongers just want to enjoy the atmosphere, have some drinks and laughs, stab some pussy and go home. It think some more than others need to calibrate expectations when it comes to these women. There is another gentleman posting in the AB forum about his heart being ripped out by a BG because she lied about her intentions with him. It is more a common tale then most would like to admit on these forums. This is not about the haves VS the have less, this is about a code of conduct that all of us need to abide by just like the girls have their code of conduct we should have ours. Paying more then $80 for 30 min is just ridiculous. If some of you are inclined to pay more then more power to you but all you do is make these girls think that there pussy is some how more valuable then the next's. Anybody who has done the Zona long enough knows there are some SG who look better / give better service than BG's and vice versa. There are no such things as 10's gentleman they only exist in the land of Unicorns and Leprechaun's. Everybody has flaws not just physical but emotional. Most of these girls have been abused sexually / mentally so and so forth usually their own Father's so they already have a low opinion of men in general and I don't care if you look like Luis Miguel or give her a million to blow you nothing or nobody will change that. Some mongers like to play captain save a hoe and think they can turn a hoe into a housewife / LTR girlfriend. It sounds cliche but it is very true. This forum should be treated as an objective insiders guide for the best possible and safest mongering experience in Mexico. There are rules to this shit and I see guys getting played like a cheap violin. There is too much cup-caking and fuckery going on with these girls I see in the clubs. That is not my style and that is not a sign of a true monger. I am not special if I can negotiate $60 then everybody else should be able to do the same. Ask yourself this question. When you shop for a car do you just pay the sales guy what the sticker price says? This is the same premise.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1702383]Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.[/QUOTE]That is the way it is! If you want it / you pay for it! I NEGOTIATE. I am "local". I am a "repeater". EVERYONE gets a different rate!

I tend to pay less in fees to Tijuana chicas than most mongers. But I attribute that to discipline and fundamental negotiation tactics (since my looks work against me). I readily share this information on these hooker boards.

You could look back several years (on the boards where I've been participating on for a long time) and not find any posts of mine where I'm criticizing other mongers for paying more. I really don't care what others pay. And I don't believe that other mongers paying higher rates significantly affects my ability to get a chica I want at a price I'm willing to pay.

There will always be some chicas that won't go arriba for the paltry fees I'm willing to pay. Fortunately there always be enough I find desirable that will.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1702383]Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.[/QUOTE]I think your comments are missing the point a bit. Yes obviously hooker bars are like an auction. Top prizes to top bidders. But it does not have to be that way. It's that way because most men get pushed over by a big rack and a smile. These "sack up" posts are aimed at stopping softies from over-paying. It's bad for the game. Plain and simple. And if you are over paying you have the right to feel insulted by these posts. Especially if your the type of guy who walks into a mc Donald's and over pays for a Big Mac just because the lady told you it was $20. We are not talking about extra charity to a worker you like or who one that goes above and beyond. Most people can afford to overpay. Amen to the guys with a sack and who go by the old adage "If she digs me she will agree" " its's up to me".

[QUOTE=FlapJacK;1699063]Another option to help with your hot tub fantasy is to go with one of the escort services and get a nice jacuzzi room at Motel Premier.

Check out "Cum In Tijuana" or "mexico lindo bar" escort service.

I have used several times over the years and not a bad option if your looking for something different than the bar/street scene.[/QUOTE]You sir are my new friend. Much appreciated. I'm already planning on this. Thanks again. Hopefully the escort girls get health check ups like the the girls in HK.

OK, here's a question to the Vets of HK.

For the Shave cream show, the absolute standard is Carolina. She's always been friendly / flirty on the stage and chats me up while I'm sending the dollars her way. Just last week on Thursday night, I had a great time with Italia and her partner Sophie? Italia was a real cutie and speaks some English. I do the best I can but of course, she was interested in my brother. I tried to convince him to head up but he's currently in a relationship so he declines.

Anyone ever take a Shave cream chica upstairs? Are they as friendly as they appear on stage? Friendly and filthy at the same time? They get finger-banged a lot but I figured the shaving cream sterilizes everything.

[QUOTE=Drew996;1707152]OK, here's a question to the Vets of HK.

For the Shave cream show, the absolute standard is Carolina. She's always been friendly / flirty on the stage and chats me up while I'm sending the dollars her way. Just last week on Thursday night, I had a great time with Italia and her partner Sophie? Italia was a real cutie and speaks some English. I do the best I can but of course, she was interested in my brother. I tried to convince him to head up but he's currently in a relationship so he declines.

Anyone ever take a Shave cream chica upstairs? Are they as friendly as they appear on stage? Friendly and filthy at the same time? They get finger-banged a lot but I figured the shaving cream sterilizes everything.[/QUOTE]Dear Homewrecker,

I got a BBJ from one during a lap dance. Didn't even expected it. We were just kissing and the next thing I knew.

Anyways, IMO the shaving cream girls are the most uninhibited girls especially after they bathe and get comfortable. So yeah, they are freaks. I think the key is that you have to show them you're clean (shower) before they get freaky on you.

Thanks to everyone for so much useful information. I have read lots and learned lots, so important before traveling!

So I plan on staying a few nights at Cascadas, getting a nice room. I'm already fantasizing about the bar girls I plan to bring up for lots of quickies, and the TLN I plan to have with the prettiest two SG or CL chicas I can find.

But first a practical question I haven't seen raised before: WIFI.

I saw an older review (on another site) that said WiFi at Cascadas was crap. Is this still true? Anyone got a firsthand account?

WiFi is very important to me since I need it for work (this will be a "working vacation" If the WiFi at Cascadas sucks, what's the closest place I can get good internet? Doesn't have to be free, I don't mind paying for what I use.

TIA for answering a Q out of the blue from a noob!

[QUOTE=Latergreen;1710375]I saw an older review (on another site) that said WiFi at Cascadas was crap. Is this still true? Anyone got a firsthand account?[/QUOTE]I've only used Cascadas WiFi with my smartphone when I can't get a US cell for data. I'm too cheap to pay for the Mexican data plan, but can usually reach a US cell from the upper floors of Cascadas.

Both Cascadas WiFi connection and data rates have been spotty. Sometimes works fine. Sometimes it connects but is slow. Sometimes it won't even connect. I have not done well with Mexican WiFi. Even Ticuan (which is quite nice) has crappy WiFi. Haven't tried either WiFi since about September; maybe it is better now. There has to be good WiFi somewhere, I just haven't found it.

Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.

Thanks for the info.

With respect to WiFi, I see ads for Cibercafé within a few blocks of HK, I can use those.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1710624]Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.[/QUOTE]Wait. What? Are you seriously saying I can't bring my laptop to Mexico? It's not like I have the secret plans for the nukes, I have email and video games.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1710624]I've only used Cascadas WiFi with my smartphone when I can't get a US cell for data. I'm too cheap to pay for the Mexican data plan, but can usually reach a US cell from the upper floors of Cascadas.

Both Cascadas WiFi connection and data rates have been spotty. Sometimes works fine. Sometimes it connects but is slow. Sometimes it won't even connect. I have not done well with Mexican WiFi. Even Ticuan (which is quite nice) has crappy WiFi. Haven't tried either WiFi since about September; maybe it is better now. There has to be good WiFi somewhere, I just haven't found it.

Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.[/QUOTE]Cell reception can be spotty at Cascada. Yes it is better on the top floors, but I have found it better on the street in FRONT of Cascada most of the times. I have ATT and it will go on and off, sometimes switching to Telcel or Movistar, which is ok for my texts (I have a int plan for texts) but will cut any talk connections. Also I can't call out in the Movistae or telcel provider (cell). Also very low "bars" on the ATT tower.