Vienna

Since Sophie at Kontaktzone was mentioned I found the way there and her room number 2.

Convenient to get there because it is close to a big train station but that is about it with the positives.

Sophie looks all right but this place is a Turn-off in itself and she also had a sort of weird air about her. Not rude but weird. The body is rockin' but her distant way of talking made me change my mind and lose interest. I see how this place can be an option if you are on a tight budget but otherwise total waste of time. There's better than that to be found elsewhere easily.

Be it all as it may but what I see tonight is pretty impressive. Definitely over 20 ladies. Definitely way more guys and I must've seen 10 or more bottles of Champagne pass over the counter in like 2 hours. Christmas business definitely has started at Maxim or maybe it is just a very crowded day with the ominous whales we recently talked about. Who knows.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2396980]Be it all as it may but what I see tonight is pretty impressive. Definitely over 20 ladies. Definitely way more guys and I must've seen 10 or more bottles of Champagne pass over the counter in like 2 hours. Christmas business definitely has started at Maxim or maybe it is just a very crowded day with the ominous whales we recently talked about. Who knows.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when a certain dynamic at Maxim sets in and also the right kinds of clients are present, then there is no stopping the big spenders. I have witnessed it several times almost with disbelief. End of November and beginning of December are more likely to have those big spenders celebrate, so right now I advise to come to Maxim earlier rather than later in the night. Between 21:00 and 22:00 most girls will still be available but who knows what happens closing in on midnight and afterwards. Of course this is not always the case but more likely these days. This week in particular must've been exceptional according to what I heard and partially also personally have witnessed. Babylon too, I heard, was good and never in doubt.

What I find partucularly interesting is that except for the BIG 4 clubs almost all other places seem to be on the pathway south. If you are not highly profitable in December then help you god in January and February!

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2398090]Sometimes when a certain dynamic at Maxim sets in and also the right kinds of clients are present, then there is no stopping the big spenders. I have witnessed it several times almost with disbelief. End of November and beginning of December are more likely to have those big spenders celebrate, so right now I advise to come to Maxim earlier rather than later in the night. Between 21:00 and 22:00 most girls will still be available but who knows what happens closing in on midnight and afterwards. Of course this is not always the case but more likely these days. This week in particular must've been exceptional according to what I heard and partially also personally have witnessed. Babylon too, I heard, was good and never in doubt.

What I find partucularly interesting is that except for the BIG 4 clubs almost all other places seem to be on the pathway south. If you are not highly profitable in December then help you god in January and February![/QUOTE]The Vienna sex business is changing. It seems to me that only opening a club and having girls in it is not enough. There are smart players on the market, they use social media and other online platforms, so if you are not a member of Big4, then you should work on your online presence a lot.

The other way is to open a studio and try to rip off the people. This can be done in the first 1-2 months and then you should close and re-open it at another location. Many players do this and they are also part of the Vienna sex scene.

[QUOTE=Skarz;2398404]The Vienna sex business is changing. It seems to me that only opening a club and having girls in it is not enough. There are smart players on the market, they use social media and other online platforms, so if you are not a member of Big4, then you should work on your online presence a lot.

The other way is to open a studio and try to rip off the people. This can be done in the first 1-2 months and then you should close and re-open it at another location. Many players do this and they are also part of the Vienna sex scene.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by that? I agree that online marketing is important, but it's not the main reason why those four big clubs can keep the quality of the girls high all year around. In my opinion the fact that these are quality places ensure that girls keep coming and that there's always good ladies to find, while other places are competing to get new girls or just keep the ones already working there.

[QUOTE=Jonn89;2398731]What do you mean by that? I agree that online marketing is important, but it's not the main reason why those four big clubs can keep the quality of the girls high all year around. In my opinion the fact that these are quality places ensure that girls keep coming and that there's always good ladies to find, while other places are competing to get new girls or just keep the ones already working there.[/QUOTE]Babylon isn't doing any online marketing whatsoever. For all I know they don't maintain the website at all but they are still doing very well and the quality is quite high for sure. Is it only the reputation then or the solid service level? I mean, I think I know the answer but since we are discussing, let's hear it!

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2398764]Babylon isn't doing any online marketing whatsoever. For all I know they don't maintain the website at all but they are still doing very well and the quality is quite high for sure. Is it only the reputation then or the solid service level? I mean, I think I know the answer but since we are discussing, let's hear it![/QUOTE]I would say a bit of both, word gets around about their service and it further boosts their reputation. In the case of Babylon, they have a solid enough reputation that they don't need online marketing. But there are not many other places that can get along like this. In most cases it's important from a business standpoint to have a website, promotions etc. Since they are well-known, I bet a lot of girls want to work in Babylon so they don't have a problem with getting new ones or keeping them. GT, FP, Maxim, Babylon, these are all attractive options for the girls. But yes, it starts with a solid service level.

[QUOTE=Jonn89;2399103]I would say a bit of both, word gets around about their service and it further boosts their reputation. In the case of Babylon, they have a solid enough reputation that they don't need online marketing. But there are not many other places that can get along like this. [/QUOTE]Not a single one apart from Babylon can afford to neglect their marketing duties. I have followed the last almost 2 decades of Vienna sex market and the need for a solid online marketing strategy is undeniable. So, that means that Babylon has been special in that regard but for how much longer? I think they'll need to do the jump now or they'll not be able to grow anymore. Probably have stopped growing long time ago as it is the case with most clubs and places. Almost each one is on the decline as far as I can tell.

But I predict one thing for sure and that is that who ever keeps attracting the babes to work there will have the clients and is set for the future.

I guess it must be tricky to do good online marketing in this business seeing that social media is not a valid option for prostitution and porn. I guess it is the will to produce content and stay in the conversation which makes all the difference. Best online endeavour I have seen in Vienna is from P.S. Burggasse and Maxim.

GT, for example, had a great website unil 2010 or 2011 and then I remember they updated the site to the new style and never looked back and bothered to do photos and girls profiles or whatever. It's just an example as far as their website is concerned. I am sure they have other mechanics in place that work well attracting certain groups of customers.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2399179]But I predict one thing for sure and that is that who ever keeps attracting the babes to work there will have the clients and is set for the future.

I guess it must be tricky to do good online marketing in this business seeing that social media is not a valid option for prostitution and porn. I guess it is the will to produce content and stay in the conversation which makes all the difference. Best online endeavour I have seen in Vienna is from P.S. Burggasse and Maxim.

GT, for example, had a great website unil 2010 or 2011 and then I remember they updated the site to the new style and never looked back and bothered to do photos and girls profiles or whatever. It's just an example as far as their website is concerned. I am sure they have other mechanics in place that work well attracting certain groups of customers.[/QUOTE]Attracting new girls and maintaining them is definitely the best way to success. I think a lot of girls want to work in the most popular places, because there is a constant flow of clients coming in. IMHO, girls = clients, clients = girls it's a vicious (or not so much) circle.

GT just seems to upload party pictures once or twice a year and that's it, they don't really update or maintain the site too much. I occasionally check the Babylon site and it seems like I didn't see anything new on the site for years now. But this doesn't seem to be a problem for them either.

I agree that Maxim and Peepshow Burggasse care about their online presentation, which I value a lot. For me personally, this dedication shows professionalism and that they care what people think about them / their business.

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So, you have the reputation and the flow of new girls coming in and then you have the determination that shows in online marketing and efforts to expose oneself, be out there and communicate with the clients. I guess that might be it, summing it up what separates wheat from the chaff.

I agree that many formerly good places are not up to the task anymore as it seems. But if they are not up for it now then when will they be in the game again? Maybe never.

Is anyone familiar with fresh-sauna. At?

It seems to be a FKK just like fun-palast, on a location similar to fun-palast. But I only saw reports about fun-palast, nothing about this place.

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[QUOTE=Bgmnt;2400499]Is anyone familiar with fresh-sauna. At?

It seems to be a FKK just like fun-palast, on a location similar to fun-palast. But I only saw reports about fun-palast, nothing about this place.[/QUOTE]It's a smaller less popular version of Funpalast. Smaller club, less girls, less people, less popular. Generally if you only like FKK you can also check it out. No reason why not.