FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Myrmidon]In summation: the Palace tends to be frowned on by senior board members who see it as a place with beautiful women who are out to quickly trim the herd. And that herd consists mostly of newbies like myself and messe (conventioneers) attendees. That is most likely true. But from my newbie perspective, I liked Palace. The food was very good, the facilities were very good. Legend has it that the showers at Palace are always cold. This was not the case for me. I always had a hot shower, first on the right as you enter. The ladies are stellar and if you take your time, you will be rewarded. I may be a newbie at Palace, but over all I was pleased: two great sessions and one good session and one let down, but still good clean session. Cost for this enjoyable 2 day experience? 75 euro twice for entrance and 50 euro four times for experiences that I enjoyed! Total: 350 euro. Plus train fare for the voyeuristic and physical experience of a life time. Money well spent, IMHO.[/QUOTE]

Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few. The Palace haters are a vocal lot, one prolific poster has stated he posts to promote clubs he likes. As Palace is not one of the clubs he likes (or visits), one can infer his posts on this thread are intend to promote the clubs he likes by trashing the competition.

If you like the place, don't be influenced by the haters. Go if you like it, don't go if you don't. Not because some senior members don't like the place.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few. The Palace haters are a vocal lot, one prolific poster has stated he posts to promote clubs he likes. As Palace is not one of the clubs he likes (or visits), one can infer his posts on this thread are intend to promote the clubs he likes by trashing the competition.

If you like the place, don't be influenced by the haters. Go if you like it, don't go if you don't. Not because some senior members don't like the place.[/QUOTE]
And some of us may like other clubs because we have had better experiences and feel that we can get more mileage for the money. It has nothing to do with trashing Palace, just expressing a personal preference for other clubs. This does not necessarily infer a desire to promote those over Palace.

Just as you are vocal in defending it, other senior members can be vocal in pointing out some of its pitfalls, so that first time visitors can go into their virgin visit with a better feel for the lay of the land. That's what this forum is for.

You're right on in giving this advice;"[i]Go if you like it, don't go if you don't.[/i]"

Let me add to that; It's best to visit a variety of clubs, and then via comparison, decide which works best for you. Don't limit yourself to a particular club, or refrain from visiting a particular club, just because senior members like or dislike it. Senior members put their towels on just like you do, can sometimes be grumpy, defensive and territorial, have no monopoly on wisdom and express their opinions based on their own experiences which will probably differ in any case from your own.

Seek and ye shall find, and in any case, have fun exploring.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]And some of us may like other clubs because we have had better experiences and feel that we can get more mileage for the money. It has nothing to do with trashing Palace, just expressing a personal preference for other clubs. This does not necessarily infer a desire to promote those over Palace.

Just as you are vocal in defending it, other senior members can be vocal in pointing out some of its pitfalls, so that first time visitors can go into their virgin visit with a better feel for the lay of the land. That's what this forum is for.

You're right on in giving this advice;"[i]Go if you like it, don't go if you don't.[/i]"

Let me add to that; It's best to visit a variety of clubs, and then via comparison, decide which works best for you. Don't limit yourself to a particular club, or refrain from visiting a particular club, just because senior members like or dislike it. Senior members put their towels on just like you do, can sometimes be grumpy, defensive and territorial, have no monopoly on wisdom and express their opinions based on their own experiences which will probably differ in any case from your own.

Seek and ye shall find, and in any case, have fun exploring.[/QUOTE]

Mostly agree, however there are tradeoffs with the clubs you prefer (widely discussed, won't repeat here as this is the Palace thread).

I could not agree more that one should try different types of clubs and see what one prefers.

Just for the record, when was your last visit to Palace?

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Many senior members like Palace very much. Vito, Ortos, HB and myself just to name a few. [/QUOTE]
I think long time regulars at the Palace remain very comfortable there as there are plenty of superb known girls plus new girls to try when either very sure or willing to risk it. Many ordinary girls can be just ignored.

But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.

I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I think long time regulars at the Palace remain very comfortable there as there are plenty of superb known girls plus new girls to try when either very sure or willing to risk it. Many ordinary girls can be just ignored.

But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.

I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.[/QUOTE]

You are not that different. BC and Vito both seem to be more focused on looks than some of the other senior members that are more comfortable at Bernds. I tend to fall somewhere in the middle as BC regards me as having broad tastes. I am also very partial to a large and varied selection of women (kid in a candy store effect).

If you are honest with yourself about what is important to you in the FKK Sauna experience it's pretty easy to find the clubs that suit your preferences.

BTW, Czech Linda started her FKK career at Palace <grin>.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan] But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.

I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.[/QUOTE]

Hey Soap Fan,

Czech Linda and Swiss Michelle were spotted at FKK Oase recently two days in a row.

Czech Linda looks divine either naked and in her street clothes when she comes into the club and when she leaves.

Czech Linda also seems to have a fondness for sitting in the whirl pool and it is fun watching her large ample breast float in the bubbling water as a jet blasts into your backside admiring the view as you sit in the pool too.
She seems to have a routine of doing a couple of stints in the whirl pool when the times are quieter.

Yes, I agree that some senior member tastes are quite broad or not fussed about the looks provided that the service level is there. My tastes have just not gone that far.

Then again maybe they have. I was doing a later twenties or early thirties ice cold queen had a big butt (too much junk in her trunk) and chunky legs and I did her twice in less than 4 hours. There is something to be said about broad women and a taste for them.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Just for the record, when was your last visit to Palace?[/QUOTE]
December.

Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.

My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]December.

Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.

My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.[/QUOTE]

My last visit was this month and my prior one was in December 2008.

I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.

I also when I am in Hessen tend to migrate to Oase, but something recently has put me off Oase.

World also did not work for me. I experienced the sharkiness, the persistent sales pitches to get you to go to the room and the poor service levels at World too.

This then does not leave me much choice but NRW clubs.

I will do what I can to avoid going to Palace from now on again. I had a meet up at Palace this visit with an esteemed senior member so I had to make my stop at Palace.

Iseeu, I also had the benefit of visiting Palace with a bona fide ISG Palace lover and he is an expert on its line up. He was meant to provide me with the Palace smarts and thereby serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide. Alas, no. The guy was so enarmored of the line up that in the all the time that I was in the club I saw him twice briefly for the sum total of 1 minute. Even then we had to wait until 04:25 before we left the club and the club closes at 04:00!

So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Basketcase]I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.[/QUOTE]BC,

the trick may be to go early shift. My last experience of that was positive, very different atmosphere, you could pick your girls without too much stress. We should meet up.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).[/QUOTE]I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]My last visit was this month and my prior one was in December 2008.

I also do not know when I will go back to Palace. Maybe in 6 months time.

I also when I am in Hessen tend to migrate to Oase, but something recently has put me off Oase.

I will do what I can to avoid going to Palace from now on again. I had a meet up at Palace this visit with an esteemed senior member so I had to make my stop at Palace.

Iseeu, I also had the benefit of visiting Palace with a bona fide ISG Palace lover and he is an expert on its line up. He was meant to provide me with the Palace smarts and thereby serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide. Alas, no. The guy was so enarmored of the line up that in the all the time that I was in the club I saw him twice briefly for the sum total of 1 minute. Even then we had to wait until 04:25 before we left the club and the club closes at 04:00!

So I went with a Palace lover and I had two sessions and I did not pop in either of them because of the disastrous service and visuals (I was also trying to broaden my tastes as there really was nothing that took my fancy).

Cheers,[/QUOTE]
Wassup BC,

I wouldn't call myself an expert on the Palace lineup. HB is the guru. Both times we saw each other, I was walking to the lockers & taking a small break from long sessions with 2 of my ATF's. I think the sum total was more like 30 seconds.

I returned from my last session @ 4:10am & it took around 15 minutes to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], shower, towel dry & change. I had 3 really long sessions with 3 of my ATF's. Marina from Cuba, Denisa & Mona from Romania.

If I remember correctly, you could not pop with the first girl because of some stage fright in the kino. Not quite sure what you were looking for, but I saw around 5-6 stunners that I did not have time to try. You needed around 7-8 hrs to finally decide on your first session @ the other clubs we visited.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]December.

Don't know when I'll go back. When in Hessen I usually migrate towards Oase, as I tend to get better mileage there than at World or Palace, even if it's a "bad" Oase night.

My Palace visits are too infrequent to really get a handle on what's going down. What I really need to do is visit when another ISGer with Palace smarts is there to serve as my "Palace for Dummies" guide.[/QUOTE]

OK, fair enough. Then I think you have a right to comment on the place. My objection is those that have either never been or it has been over 5 years.

Key to Palace is girl selection. This is not a "throw a dart" place. I select girls by observing how they interact with the gents, how often do they session (baselined against their appearance), does the gent look happy, etc. Ortos' method is more an interactive, test the chemistry approach. As with any club, you will get better service if you are recognized as a regular visitor and have repeat sessions with some ladies.

The Kino is the friend of the informed customer. I've selected many a girl after observing how she interacted with another customer. I also think whoever suggested going during the day or early evening was spot on. If on my own, I usually arrive around 4PM, have one session before dinner, another between 1st and second dinner and one before midnight. I avoid the period immediately after dinner as everyone seems to want to go to the room all at the same time between 30 and 60 minutes after dinner is served.

I think the key to enjoying Palace is to get a good girl selection system and stick with it.

Then again, if other clubs work better for you, no real sense in going there. Might be better if you didn't go to Palace.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]
But the other clubs are worth going to for variety and to chase extra special girls like Czech Linda or Swiss Michelle, etc.

I know I am vastly different to other senior members as I am looking for super looks, lovely fun character, as well as super performance.
I known that many other senior members are not so fussed about looks.[/QUOTE]

You are talking about super looks and then you mention Michelle in the same sentence? ;-) Doesn't work for me. I do go for super looks, but Michelle and Linda are not in my scheme.

And I do visit other clubs on a regular basis: Paradise, World, Oase, Royal, GT, Artemis and and and. I still like Palace.

HB

[QUOTE=Macphisto]I'm a FKK newbie who wanted to make my first visit this summer, but after reading some of the recent reports (of CBJ, average looking girls, etc.) I don't think it's worth making an eight hour flight over. Hopefully things will change for the better.[/QUOTE]

Sir: not to flaunt my own success recently, but in light of your comments, may I suggest you read my report: [POST]876469[/POST] BTW, my flight took almost 16 hours and I would do it in a moment. The link to the Oase post is included in this link. Plse rethink your decision.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]You are talking about super looks and then you mention Michelle in the same sentence? ;-) Doesn't work for me. I do go for super looks, but Michelle and Linda are not in my scheme.

And I do visit other clubs on a regular basis: Paradise, World, Oase, Royal, GT, Artemis and and and. I still like Palace.

HB[/QUOTE]
I agree that Michelle is not super looking but I can make exceptions for famous big stars. In fact only a few Oase girls were super looking to me.

Looks wise, Linda is very good looking to me. Normally I am not a big tit man, but Linda is such a lovely girl, I can enjoy big tits too.

I hope you like Brazil Kimmi. She is super looking to me.