Cartagena Reports

Thought it was appropriate to do a follow-up about my Elektra visit last evening or early morning. Showed up around 3am after almost falling asleep and coaxing my tired ass out of bed. Walked down two blocks to the club -- one advantage to staying in El Centro.

Spotted a very petite young chica who was wearing a simple sundress and talking to a black girl who had been a bit agressive with me on the prior occasion in the club. When the black girl walked by a few minutes later, I asked her about the other girl. She promptly went over and told the girl to come over, which she did. I was concerned about this girl's age but she turned out to be 20. A smoking hot little girl who I could almost wrap my hands around her waist and I have small hands! Within 15 minutes, we are dirty dancing (is that what they call Salsa north of the border). Around that time, I saw another girl across the bar gesturing towards me. I quickly realized she was the girl I rented for a day on San Andreas Island in September. I wrote a report about it at the time to describe the fantastic day/evening with her. I had tried to contact her on this trip but her phone did not appear to be working.

Naturally, I wanted to talk to her but did not want to break the magic with the other girl and my San Andreas friend was smart enough not to come over. After several minutes, my petite friend said she need to visit the ladies room and I immediately took advantage of the opening. I went over and exchanged pleasantries with Ms. San Andreas and got her new number. Since she is actually from MDE, I did not determine whether she was visiting from there or was still on SAN ANDRES. After a few minutes, I strolled back to my original location. MS. Petite did not appear. Finally, I tracked her down in the cigarette room pouting and showing a new founded zero interest in me. She proceeded to completely blow me off and quoted $200COP for a 1/2 hour all the while complaining she was not mad at me.

Eventually, I gave up and stepped outside the bar to look for Ms. San Andreas who apparently had left in the interim. Then Ms. Petite came out of the club and with barely a glance at me or a goodbye strolled down the street by herself.

Now, I am totally exasperated. Spoke to one MDE chica who wanted $200COP (originally asked for$300COP but quickly went down to $200). However, no kissing allowed which is a total turnoff to me. Forgot GFE in those instances. To make a long story short, the black girl who had provided the original introduction came over. We quickly agreed on $150COP for the rest of the morning and she was spectacular. Totally GFE and a sweet girl to boot. I frankly was expecting the opposite due to the events of the rest of the evening but she made up for it. She just left my apartment and I will probably see her tonite at the ELEKTRA. Hoping to see Ms. San Andreas as well.

Believe me, this type of activity does not happen to me in the states! VIVA COLOMBIA!!!

Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.

[QUOTE=Biffa]Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.[/QUOTE]

Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.

If anyone saw my prior report from yesterday, you would have read that I claimed to have met a girl who I initially met in San Andreas a few months ago. I guess she was on my mind as the girl from ELEKTRA turned out NOT to be the same chica. I called the chica I met at ELEKTRA the next morning to arrange a rendezvous that evening and she seemed very confused as I was asking for her by the wrong name. She finally decided to meet that evening but it was like pulling teeth and she appeared two hours late.

Since I was hanging out at a local bar down the street from my apartment in El Centro, it did not matter much to me if she showed at all as I had just met a hot little costena from Sucre and her Bogata buddies while waiting for her appearance.

The girl finally showed and after several minutes of conversation, I came to the conclusion she was not the same girl from SAN ANDREAS but had a quite similar appearance. I told her about the confusion and she explained her confusion as well. She laughed it off and utimately we joined up with my new friends and we drank/danced together for an hour or so. After that I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice. She was one of the wettest girls I have ever encounted and I had to flip the sheets this morning. Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! As a result of their persisent calls, she had to leave. Apparently, she has a 4 year old due to an 'accidente' and the father is not around (imagine that).

I gave her $15cop for the cab as she lived 1/2 hour away. No other costs were discussed. I assume when she was in Elektra, she was part of the working crew but since she lives a 1/ 2 hour away, I wonder if it is possible she didn't know the activites going on at the club and randomly strolled in with her girlfriends. Seems unlikely but nevertheless, pulling a freebie is always nice...I may see her tonite and we discussed going to Taganga if it ever stops raining...In closing can I add she was a very nice fun girl and so was the one I took out of ELEKTRA the night before.

Also, these two experiences and my experiences in SAN ANDRES are so dissimilar to the type of girls I seem to meet in Lima.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]

... I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice ... Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! ...

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Glad you're having fun amigo!!

Don't ya hate those damn cel phone calls while trying to enjoy time with a chica though??

Kinda kills the moment.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.[/QUOTE]Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?

Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...


[QUOTE=Artful]Elektra's a funny place. My guess it that it's 60% LDV girls there who still haven't hooked-up for the night, the rest are from the other CTG clubs. However, as well as these, I've also noticed some several druggies there who are properly hardcore. I made the mistake once of hooking up with a girl I'd never seen before. We went back to my apartment in Laguito. She was in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. i asked what she was doing and she said 'I was having a shit' (you knew the Colombianas were sexy, right?). We did the deed and she left an hour later. The next morning I discovered blood on my pillow case, then I looked in the bathroom and rifled through the trash can to discover straws and lots of blood-stained tissues. There are lots of recreational drug users in CTG, hell I'm one of them. This girl was lot more than that.

On the other hand, I've also noticed that although some of the others can appear hardcore at first, it's often just a front. I've had many experiences where the first time seems very hardcore but quickly evolves into much more GFE. My impression is that girls there like to preserve face amongst their girlfriends.

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[QUOTE=Ho Lover1]Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?[/QUOTE]


Anyone! He has no fear (or as others would say, no manners) and will have that chica sitting next to you in a blink of the eye. On several occassions I've asked him does he know the "chica over there" and what's her story? He'll say no, but then ask me if I want to meet her and before I can even answer he's already walking away to speak to her. I haven't a clue what he says to 'em, but whatever it is, it works more times than not.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...[/QUOTE]

Tomas:

I'll answer your question with my opinion but before I do I gotta tell ya dude, I think your whole plan is bad. A flawed premise. You hardly know these 2 pro-babes, you're a gringo in your sixties, and you're about to invite both or one of them for a 3 or 4 day all expense paid vacation to Santa Marta?

IMO, you'll be viewed by them as nothing but a walking ATM. Hang with her in CTG for a few days and take her to one of the islands for a day trip or two but don't commit to a long multi-day overland trip. It could go bad real easy. Real bad. Besides, there's P4P in Santa Marta & El Rodadero. Why be burdened?

But to answer your question: Knowing that they are pro's and the sky's the limit concerning what they are going to hit you with and you are going to pay bus fares, lodgeing, and supplies plus misc expenses, I would just offer them a little walking around money .

Or, maybe make her your bursor and give her money for all your daily expenses plus a little extra so you know she always has something for herself. She pays all your tabs, grocery bills, etc while you play aloof to all the bill collectors. Just another idea. This would imply some trust on your part towards her that she won't abuse her role.

I'm not cheap but I am an experienced negotiator. They'll hit you sky high, you have to open equally low. Give her your MPP (Maximum Plausible Position).

At most, I would agree to around, maybe,,,, 100K COP per day, includes sex.
Believe me, they'll nibble you for more, but that would be my agreement beforehand. Whatever the amount, get a commitment. Don't leave it vague.

Good luck, Schwmm

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Hi Delta,

It must have been interesting, meeting yourself like that. Did On The Go show up as well?

To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.

Urban's fin de siecle was a boat trip from Cartagena city beach which had members of the third sex aboard and which was highlighted by the intuitive poster Prov1. The end came quickly after that.[/QUOTE]
I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. experiences would be greatly appreciated...[/QUOTE]

Me personally, I'd spend a little time with her in Cartagena, at least a day, to see what she"s really like, if you have chemestry, if she's a hardened money grubber or a sweetheart, etc, etc, before I traveled with her.

A 1/2 hour chat in a bar doesn't really give ya the real scoop.

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.[/QUOTE]I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

[QUOTE=John Gault] The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.[/QUOTE]So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]When I read that series of posts, I couldn't help but wonder if Vics Pics knowingly played along or didn't have any idea?[/QUOTE]Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.

[QUOTE=John Gault]I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.[/QUOTE]

Urban was a good guy and we helped each other out a few times. Me personally I never had a problem with him. Can you send him a Salutations from me please?

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver]I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.[/QUOTE]
One day guys like you may write a actual trip report. Till that day comes go suck a lemon.

[QUOTE=John Gault] Urban Wildlife then got some girls from there and off to his apartment in Lagito for some fun. We all chiped in 80K and all the girls took there clothes off and danced for a while. The funny thing was the first one to completly disrobe was Urban. That blew my mind, but not the girls as they quickly joined him. Urban is a trip and in two days he killed 4 bottles of Crown Royal. Also I don't think he got 5 hours sleep in the 3 days.[/QUOTE]Wow, hanging out with a 15 time banned, drunken, naked insomniac must have been fabulous however I'd prefer to pick up my own tab and hang out with normal people.