Crime, Safety, and the Police

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2849521]Tijuana Montserrat Caballero is making a quasi attempt to curb the cartel violence. She has told them they can continue to operate if they do not harm innocent civilians. This is a short sighted approach. I have heard rumors that the cartel members have been extorting money from businesses in the Zona. Part of the problem is that Mexico's president AMLO is burying his head in the sand. Tijuana's mayor has asked for more support from the state and federal government. For now coordinating things among various law enforcement agencies would help a lot. The other issue is a better allocation of resources. I don't see the point of have 6 or 7 soldiers ride around in a truck.

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/montserrat-caballero-first-female-mayor-010000729.html[/URL][/QUOTE]For the cartels, the number one money maker is controlling the Tijuana corridor to send contraband (drugs) into the USA. Nothing is even close. Cash businesses like HK is really a drop in the bucket and is more valuable as a money laundering operation. For years the cartels were not bothered with because actual victims were just rich gringos in the USA in their BMWs. It looks like Cabellero is going back to this model and saying that the Cartels is free to operate as long as they don't harm innocent Mexican citizens. Fuck the gringos up North.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2849521]Tijuana Montserrat Caballero is making a quasi attempt to curb the cartel violence. She has told them they can continue to operate if they do not harm innocent civilians. This is a short sighted approach. I have heard rumors that the cartel members have been extorting money from businesses in the Zona. Part of the problem is that Mexico's president AMLO is burying his head in the sand. Tijuana's mayor has asked for more support from the state and federal government. For now coordinating things among various law enforcement agencies would help a lot. The other issue is a better allocation of resources. I don't see the point of have 6 or 7 soldiers ride around in a truck.

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/montserrat-caballero-first-female-mayor-010000729.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yea good luck with all of that.

A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.

[QUOTE=Bochi;2851512]A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.[/QUOTE]Any word whether the victim was a HK employee? They seem to be targets of shootings lately. HK employees also tend to hold meetings in the parking lot next to Senda Norte. BTW that is a really good restaurant.

[QUOTE=Bochi;2851512]A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a hit.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2848634]I wouldn't recommend to anyone to drive in Tijuana without insurance but I disagree with your comment. Having driven in Tijuana since I was a teen and for a long time living in Tijuana for a majority of that time I never had Mexican insurance. At no time did a police officer ask me if I had insurance and when I was hit by another driver in Tijuana without it the police never gave me a hard time. The other driver didn't have it as well so she had to pay me the amount to fix my car on the spot or they would impound her car.

Now if you are some American that doesn't speak any Spanish and some cop wants to try and make some money from you they could say some stuff to scare you but I just wanted to give you my experience.

On a side note for those that drive in Tijuana they just changed the law back to allowing tinted windows so don't let the cops pull you over and try to get money from you for having tinted windows when they were like that from the factory. The law still doesn't allow the front windows to be tinted like the California law but just a heads up for some of you.[/QUOTE]Being insured while driving in Mexico comes under prevailing security wisdom. Security is most effective in layers. In this case, insurance is just that. A layer in security, not a complete solution. As a "gabacho", "Pocho" living in Baja, I'd rather pay $120/ year for the rest of my life and never use it, than not have it and wish I did. Call it due diligence.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;2849638]For the cartels, the number one money maker is controlling the Tijuana corridor to send contraband (drugs) into the USA. Nothing is even close. Cash businesses like HK is really a drop in the bucket and is more valuable as a money laundering operation. For years the cartels were not bothered with because actual victims were just rich gringos in the USA in their BMWs. It looks like Cabellero is going back to this model and saying that the Cartels is free to operate as long as they don't harm innocent Mexican citizens. Fuck the gringos up North.[/QUOTE]Every little street vendor to large corporations pay. It's Cartels and the guy on the block. While their mainline is drug trade, Cartels also turn to extortion when times are tough. The avocado trade is an example when the screws tightened awhile back.

[QUOTE=Thunder52;2851580]Being insured while driving in Mexico comes under prevailing security wisdom. Security is most effective in layers. In this case, insurance is just that. A layer in security, not a complete solution. As a "gabacho", "Pocho" living in Baja, I'd rather pay $120/ year for the rest of my life and never use it, than not have it and wish I did. Call it due diligence.[/QUOTE]As I stated I wouldn't advise anyone to drive in Mexico without insurance. My point was that you were incorrect in the fact that if you get in an accident and don't have it even if the accident is not your fault will be a problem.

[QUOTE=Thunder52;2851582]Every little street vendor to large corporations pay. It's Cartels and the guy on the block. While their mainline is drug trade, Cartels also turn to extortion when times are tough. The avocado trade is an example when the screws tightened awhile back.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in what proof you have that large corporations pay extortion fees to the Cartels in Tijuana. Also the Cartels are making goid money with all the people coming to look for asylum or those that cross illegally.

From most news reports I've read and things I've heard the biggest issue with the Cartels turning to more extortion now is that the Cartels don't have strong leadership and everyone within the Cartels are fighting among themselves and a lack of order has caused this caos.

As far as the avocado trade you mentioned it could be a number of things, I hadn't paid much attention to it I just hear now that they are doing the same thing to the lime farmers.

[QUOTE=Bochi;2851512]A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.[/QUOTE][URL]https://puntonorte.info/2023/09/10/ejecutan-a-hombre-a-unos-pasos-del-bar-hong-kong-en-zona-norte/[/URL]

Safety in the alley near Hong Kong has improved significantly. Now two or three guys from I think, National Guard with machine guns are standing in the alley. The drug trade in the alley has completely ended.

[QUOTE=StRobert;2852344]Safety in the alley near Hong Kong has improved significantly. Now two or three guys from I think, National Guard with machine guns are standing in the alley. The drug trade in the alley has completely ended.[/QUOTE]It's taking place around the corner on Ninos Héroes.

StRobert made good observations.

Last Sunday afternoon we were walking in the alley when 2 Municipal Policia pick up trucks drove down the alley aggressively. They stopped in front of Azul's, 3 guys jumped out and grabbed a guy walking with his wife and young daughter. They searched, cuffed the guy and loaded him in the back. The wife was hovering over; his daughter was crying hysterically. It was a very sad scene.

So policia has snitches in the alley alerting patrols of drugs dealers. This guy was well disguised with wife and kid, but was still nabbed.

As of last week I also noticed there were no dealers in the alley screaming cuanto in my face. I am glad policia is doing some good work, risking their lives fighting cartels with their meager $750 monthly salaries. I tried to give the sweating Army patrol guys a couple bottles of ice cold coke but they would not take them. Poor kids seating like pigs in their tactical gears patrolling on foot under the burning Mexican sun.

Latin countries are failing badly, their governments weak and useless against criminal cartels. They cannot even feed or protect their population against criminal cartels, sending them with their huge problems to the US, at the same time selling drugs into the US to poison our population. These countries are very serious security risks to us.

This shooting goes to show how poorly LE resources are being deployed in the Zona. If the police and or national guard had 1 or 2 people at each of the intersections than this would stop most of the crime in the zona. It would take no more than 10-12 LE.

[QUOTE=Bochi;2851512]A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2852434]This shooting goes to show how poorly LE resources are being deployed in the Zona. If the police and or national guard had 1 or 2 people at each of the intersections than this would stop most of the crime in the zona. It would take no more than 10-12 LE.[/QUOTE]I vote for Hargow for chief of the Tijuana police.