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[QUOTE=ShLax;1183655]So Does Ting have a number?[/QUOTE]As I get older and older, my memory gets worse and worse, especially when it comes to names and numbers, so unfortunately I don't remember her number. But if you go there, see someone with a red number tag and fits my physical description of her, then there is a high probability that it will be her unless she has quit her job since the last time I went there.
Went to heting yesterday. No massage available. Dropped in on the Nanjing markets sauna instead. Got a very nice Mongolian beauty. Elegant, pretty face, playful. Don't know her name but she has a tattoo on her shoulder and lower back. Normally don't like girls with tattoo's but she was ok. She liked speaking Japanese. The experience was half northern sister half Japanese AV girl!
BBBJ short but ok, DATY ok. She really enjoyed that, not sure about DFK. I told her not to bother with catbath and AR and she seemed very thankful and more GFE as a result. I usually refuse that routine.
Looks: 9.
Body: 7.
Breasts: 8.
Attitude: 10.
Sex: 8
I went for a late night walk through the Jing An area tonight. I was looking for the BBS once reported at Wuding Lu and Xikang Lu, but alas, it seemed to be gone, or closed tonight, anyway. So I wandered several streets in the area to see if any other BBS had magically appeared, but no luck. Saw a few dodgy looking massage parlors; I'm sure I could get a happy ending at those.
Headed down Shaanxi Lu to Nanyang Lu, and down the street in front of Big Bamboo, Manhattans, etc. This is where the walk got more interesting. I'm not used to seeing agressive street walkers in Shanghai, but after 2, they are there. As I walked down Nanyang, I was approached by a mix of really pretty and really ugly girls, making pretty reasonable offers. I'd say late at night, they are looking for the last, or only customer for the night, and prices drop.
I turned down Tongren Lu, and one (nan kan) girl came across,"I want to suck your, only 300, Chinese Money". I politely declined. As I got to Nanjing Road, one really pretty girl in a white dress stopped me. We had a pretty funny chat; her practicing her English on me and me practicing my Chinese on her. I'm sure we could have come to agreement if I'd been in the mood at that point.
I continued down toward Huashan and Changshu Road. I stay on the Hilton side of Huashan there, because the girls at the talking bars are sooo aggressive. It is sad, really. And at the intersection of Changshu with Julu road, this plump, aging womon ran across the street to me and insisted she should take me off in a dark corner for some action. I smiled and moved on. Tired, sweaty, and hot, I headed for home unlaid.
Did anyone ever figure out what happened to NYNY and Route 66 across from the Hilton? Agree, the girls were aggressive, but I had a regular there that was low key. I'd stop by on the way back from Velvet Lounge and agree to a voluntary fleecing for about 300 RMB before retiring for the night. The girls were fun as long as you understood it was a profit scheme and you were providing the profit. Did they just go "tits up" or did they get sideways with the local authorities? I figured they'd get busted for the activities in the upstairs rooms sooner or later. Just wondering? I've moved my mongering activities to Shenzhen and HK.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1184406]I went for a late night walk through the Jing An area tonight. I was looking for the BBS once reported at Wuding Lu and Xikang Lu, but alas, it seemed to be gone, or closed tonight, anyway. So I wandered several streets in the area to see if any other BBS had magically appeared, but no luck. Saw a few dodgy looking massage parlors; I'm sure I could get a happy ending at those.
Headed down Shaanxi Lu to Nanyang Lu, and down the street in front of Big Bamboo, Manhattans, etc. This is where the walk got more interesting. I'm not used to seeing agressive street walkers in Shanghai, but after 2, they are there. As I walked down Nanyang, I was approached by a mix of really pretty and really ugly girls, making pretty reasonable offers. I'd say late at night, they are looking for the last, or only customer for the night, and prices drop.
I turned down Tongren Lu, and one (nan kan) girl came across,"I want to suck your, only 300, Chinese Money". I politely declined. As I got to Nanjing Road, one really pretty girl in a white dress stopped me. We had a pretty funny chat; her practicing her English on me and me practicing my Chinese on her. I'm sure we could have come to agreement if I'd been in the mood at that point.
I continued down toward Huashan and Changshu Road. I stay on the Hilton side of Huashan there, because the girls at the talking bars are sooo aggressive. It is sad, really. And at the intersection of Changshu with Julu road, this plump, aging womon ran across the street to me and insisted she should take me off in a dark corner for some action. I smiled and moved on. Tired, sweaty, and hot, I headed for home unlaid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knotawake;1184416]Did anyone ever figure out what happened to NYNY and Route 66 across from the Hilton? Agree, the girls were aggressive, but I had a regular there that was low key. I'd stop by on the way back from Velvet Lounge and agree to a voluntary fleecing for about 300 RMB before retiring for the night. The girls were fun as long as you understood it was a profit scheme and you were providing the profit. Did they just go "tits up" or did they get sideways with the local authorities? I figured they'd get busted for the activities in the upstairs rooms sooner or later. Just wondering? I've moved my mongering activities to Shenzhen and HK.[/QUOTE]Does anyone really care about a bunch of clip joints the city is better off without?
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Tried a different sauna today, at the corner of Pingli Road and Lingshi Road. In the far north corner of Putuo District. It is called MeiJing Sauna Chamber. The address is 137 Pingli Road. The sauna is on the 8th floor of the office building there on the corner.
To arrive by subway, take line 7, Dahuasan Road, exit 2. Short walk south on Hualing Road to Lingshi Road. Turn left, short walk to Pingli Road. The tall building on the corner is it. See the picture. Enter through the revolving doors. There is a hotel type desk there; I just walked straight through the lobby without stopping. Out the back door of the lobby you will find the elevator. Go to the 8th floor.
Not much English spoken here. I don't think I'd recommend this place if you don't speak any Chinese, but with a little, you'll be ok. The girl at the desk quoted me RMB 108 for a bath (Xi Zao) , to be paid at the end, but that is not the all inclusive price.
Next step is lockers. Similar to other saunas in town. Get a wrist band; put your stuff in the locker. There is a bag if you want to take something with you. Next is shower. There is no privacy here. After my shower, one of the guys really wanted to give me a back scrub and massage; I declined. I dried off with help from one of the guys. Then the Pajamas.
Next, through a large relaxation area with many seats to watch a small TV. Didn't stop there, but on into a hall with several bedrooms on either side. After a short wait, mama brought in two choices. I picked one. She was nice enough, pretty enough, but no stunner. Our conversation was very limited. I could not understand her accent at all.
Service was mechanical, and typical, except she used a small vibrator on me; never seen that before. Was kind of interesting.
Afterward, I didn't choose to stop in the relaxation area, but took another shower. The locker guys were ok. The same guy really wanted to give me the massage and back scrub; 'mian fei' he kept saying. I only remembered after I left the meaning of 'mian fei' – free of charge. Finally I gave in, took the short scrub and 'qiao bei' (back pounding massage). It seemed to make him really happy to get to do it. I think he was bored.
Paid the bill on the way out, RMB 680 total.
China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.
I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman.about 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.
We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.
She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.
Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.
25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.
I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.
What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?
[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.
She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.
Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up on UCC (may have been a counterfeit shop though). Sounds like their little trip to the loo was when they set you up and ordered the drinks.
I've never heard of any monger having a positive outcome on Nanjing Road.......
Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .
Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.
After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.
She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.
After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.
Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.
Tybao
[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.
I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.
We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.
She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.
Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.
25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.
I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.
What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Jake,
You must feel like any other Laowai that just got fucked with no vaseline. Your in China dude not NYC, wait this could happen to you in NY too.
The girl and the younger one, wow these people sit around for hours thinking this shit up. I would however goto the UCC coffee shop or nearby Police station for Nanjing Lu area and tell the cops what happened.
Better luck to you next time but remember in China, your the mark. Also remember that if its TGTBT, it is so naivety should only happen once.
PC out
[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.
I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.
We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.
She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.
Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.
25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.
I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.
What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Par for the course. But why pay at all? I could understand if you weer in a club with a few thugs breathing down your neck. But you were in a coffee shop with many others around. I would have just walked at and went right to the nearest police station and reported it. Oh well, consider it a cheap education.
Genuine tears? LOL!
[quote=jake64; 1184779]china experts. please tell me what you think was going on here.
i really do believe this story of 25yo's sad life was true, and i thought she had a nice personality. i would have given her y800. y1000 for a night of fun. i felt bad for her when i was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.
what do you guys think. could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in shanghai?[/quote]a few weeks ago, i parked up on the north side of peoples square (nanjing xi lu) , opposite the radisson hotel, just enjoying watching the world go by from behind darkened windows, the gf had just popped into the hairdressers! over two hours, a very clear picture evolved of the organised mischief going on. it seemed that a gang of perhaps 20 young men and 4 women where operating out of the underground car park entrance, being directed by an older guy, perhaps 27-30 yrs old. he was spotting targets, and sending teams of 2 or 3 to intercept, exclusively foreigners as they approached the area, or left their hotels. in two hours i didn't see anyone take the bait. i was however, amazed to see a young (scandinavian looking) blond girl sit on a bench under the trees, two young men were immediately dispatched to speak her, apparently very aggressively, he then sent a very smart looking woman, laden with shopping bags, to approach from the opposite direction! she laid into the two young men, and sent them packing, then sat down with the blonde woman and started chatting! wow, smooth operators!
whilst this was going on, a doorman at the hotel adjacent the radisson tried to stop a guy parking, he, the doorman, was placing yellow markers and only allowing selected people, i assume guests, to park. the guy parked and walked off up nanjing lu. two minutes later, a motorcycle cop turned up, the doorman pointed out the offending vehicle, and the cop slapped a ticket on it, when the cop walked towards the other 3 vehicles illegally parked, the doorman simply waved him off!
the cop then rolled up to the scam team in the car park entrance, to be greeted as an old friend, it was obvious to me, that the cop was asking "hows it going? ' and they were describing the poor afternoon, but the organiser definitely pointed out the ongoing attempt to approach the young blond across the street, having a laugh with with the two guys who'd been chased away. pleased to say, the blond was not taken in, stood up, and walked into the hotel, with the young woman trying to hold her back. as the blond dissapeared, the woman with the bags simply shrugged her shoulders and rejoined the mob in the car park entrance!
difficult to believe that anyone can fall for this nonsense, my advice, pull out your camera and see them rep001ter! (mobile phone).
[QUOTE=Ixtlan; 1154617]The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.
That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.
Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.
In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I reported some time ago, on hungry soldiers trying to sell their infra red binoculars. I've seen them again, twice in recent days;
1. Outside City Shop in Pudong, vehicle was camouflage painted, with blue registration plate. Not local, province code looked oversize, and appeared to be a letter K, slanted forward! Tried to take a photo, but they fled, just a poor shot via my wing mirror.
2. Two weeks ago, I spotted the same thing going on at a service area mid way between Tianjin and Beijing, this time only one soldier, parked outside the public toilets, offering his binoculars to people passing by, vehicle was plain green, but no registration plates!
I suspect that this is simply a company with a clever marketing ploy to sell their binoculars, who knows how many teams are operating nationwide!
[QUOTE=Tybao; 1184798]Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .
Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.
After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.
She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.
After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.
Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.
Tybao[/QUOTE]Tybao,
I think your the first guy in China that has this issue with girls here. LOL not, jk.
As it goes I have dated many a Chinese hoe and they are no differant than any other hoe in the world.
We pay to play regardless of skin color.
Usually a 3-4 month afair if that. Enjoy the company and the poonani.
PC out
[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.
I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.
We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.
She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.
Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.
25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.
I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.
What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]This is surely a scam. I was approached three times during my stay in Shanghai, each time by pair of girls. Every time the excuse was to improve their English, students from some University and want to have Tea with me. I politely excused myself by saying I am waiting for my friends. This happened once near Yu Garden and twice near The Bund.
I feel the best way to refuse them is by saying you are waiting for a friend and they will leave you free.