Adjustment to Price from My Hotel to Pattaya Avenue Mall
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2890629]LOL. Yeah definitely that. At least you know though. They are getting you from all different angles it seems. A motorbike taxi from Pattaya Klang to The Avenue is NOT 120 baht![/QUOTE]You are so right! I checked with BOLT and it is 46 THB at this time -- it will be in my next / last report coming in 30 minutes.
__Y.
My last report (unless it is not the last)
[QUOTE=YuriB;2890607]...
Today expensive staff: Go-Gos and Clubs.
__Y.[/QUOTE]11. A) at Banana Boi mentioned something interesting for me down below: "I have been to its sister club, Telephone Booth, more often than Bar La Poste. Twice I found a half decent girl so decided to have some fun in the bar only. Buy any of these girls a LD and they immediately strip down and you can do anything you pretty much want to them except BJ / FS will cost you more" so I decided to start with that intriguing place. Turned out Disastrous. A) could not figure out how to get there: it turns out to be Telephone Bar (no boot). B) upon arrival could not figure out how to enter -- you open the telephone booth and ring inconspicuous bell as the booth is actually serves as the front door. C) there were 7 ladies; all but one well above 30, and the one, who they said was 24, was definitely not my type. I purchased LD for a doable woman (who said she was 36, then corrected herself to be 26, but judging by the skin on her neck and her thighs I would place her in the beginning of 40's. So when she took her bra off (immediately upon getting her drink), I wanted to ask her to put it back on ASAP. When I asked if there are more "girls" working here at other days, she answered "possibly-- depends on the day" I could not figure out an polite way to ask, when would be present at least one decent because the beauty in the eyes of a beholder and then I would have implied that she was not decent. So I asked about other "potential girls: their age, leanness, luck of tattoos, but all my questions seemed to only confuse her. Her answers were, if I want to touch her, or interested in BJ, or she may even. D) I was wondering around for 15 minutes before I found the first taxi stand in order to pay my 120 THB for the ride to Walking St to investigate Go-Gos. The price mention (as at Mr. Enternational pointed out) came to me as I asked the very first bike I took 2 days prior, and the answer was "oh, it is very cheap: for 120 THB I will deliver you anywhere in Pattaya, so I decided that like in the Baht Buses the price is standard. Every time I Paid it, I saw very satisfied eyes of the drivers, and was positive, that this is the right and only price. Turned out I paid dearly not only by overpaying everywhere, but also not being able to order a taxi when got strangled in nowhere land.
11. B) Go-Gos, visited 4 starting with the House (where there were probably most attractive girls overall). Asked "super-model" how to negotiate and got a meaningful and educational answer. It is all in the bits-and-peices on this board, but I put them together. 1) You pay Bar Fine and it is usually non-negotiable. The only way to bypass it if a girl would be willing to go out with you after her shift is over and would NOT meet next to the exit / entrance of the club. But sometimes mama-san can offer a discount if she likes you, you paid for a lot of drinks, you are a frequent customer, it is very late in the evening -- usually within one hour of closing. I was told it is very rare. 2) duration: ST vs. LT. ST is usually 1 hour, but usually your girl has a leverage to prolong it to two hours if she likes a customer for what ever reason. LT is apparently tricky. It could be 4 hours, 5 hours, until morning 6 AM and until morning 9 AM -- all negotiable with the girl. 3) number of shots -- I was surprised that they count even for LT. "Normally" it is assumed 2, but a customer may negotiate to 3, or as many as he likes as long as the girl agrees. 4) special services; for example massaging bottom of the customer feet with the girl's breasts, etc. <-- all of these have to be negotiated well in advance with the help of Google Translator. Finally 5) Protection aka Condom use. She explained to me that if someone does not want to use condom, he would not be able to negotiate inside of the club -- he will be refused, almost 80%. However, if the customer is nice and serious about this and ready to tell the girl to leave the hotel room without pay, her only recourse is that the customer would not get his BF back, because unprotective service is against her club policy. When I asked mama-san about this very thing, she said to negotiate with the girl (not an outright "NO" so I am not 100% certain myself.
BF: 2 K-2. 5 K (different clubs had different numbers. Palace even had 2. 5 K Su-Th, but 3 K F-Sat I was also told that one can get a discount once the evening progresses.
ST: 3 K.
LT: 4-5 K -- different girls quoted different prices.
Again that was the night beginning: 8 PM, and I wanted by morning, so maybe later one can make a bargain with the leftovers.
There is a lot of thing go with GoGos and Clubs: you see what you can get. The most of the girls are young and doable (tattoos are big NO for me, but if you are not bothered by tatoos, you can get what you want at any of these bars.
Negative: high prices, and very boring inside (at least at the clubs I have been).
11. C) Russian Go-Gos / Clubs -- this is a special category. I BFed a girl from one of the Thai clubs (next to Palace) and despite the highest price in this trip still think she was worth it. When she told me that she really knows how to excite men with her dancing technique, I took her to Russian Club. She was mesmerized with what was going on there and thanked me many times for the entertainment, and. Not even once reminded me about her dancing skills. In Russian club (I forgot its name, sorry. But I can let people know if there is an interest) We ordered Cappuccinos for 200 THB each and enjoyed the show and heavily tipped the Russian dancers (20-100 THB per dance per girl -- depending on the skills). The women were gorgeous. I asked 2 if they would be willing to go out with customers. The first said only to seat and have expensive drinks, but no father. The second said 30 K THB per hour. No, no extra '0'. And then she asked if I would be willing to buy her a drink for "only" 15 K THB and then she would seat with me and my Thai girl for an hour. I guess there are many rich people, I could not even think about such prices, but then it all was exactly as 10 years ago, so I was not terribly surprised.
Final note to the people with under-developed negotiating skills like mine. Use technology. My new girlfriend who I am taking off travelling (that Thai girl from one of Go-Gos) for a week, once heard that I pay 120 THB per taxi bike ride, grabbed my phone and installed BOLT on it. She also told me that in her club and in her sister's club (apparently she has a sister and her sister also works in Go-Go) they get tested every 15 days for STDs. <-- I am not sure if that is of any use, because the virus or bacteria can get you-know-where a day after the test or even the day before the test and the test still would be negative. So use TF to negotiate with girls, Agoda to negotiate hotels, Bolt to get a taxi. And ready to accept the risk that every time I talk to a person, I am a slacker most take advantage off.
__Y going out of Pattaya in a couple of days.
