Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. But obviously some hard working guy if you say so that has great income has made these prices the norm to these girls. I think most of the business men have scammed people out of money and is lavishly and illegally spending other peoples money but that's just speculation LOL. Some of these same girls work as prepagos for 130 mil pesos and hour. Speculation again. Theres reasons for pricing regulations. Centro 10 to 30 k, casas 50 to 130 k, lleras park 150 k, How the fuck did gustos shoot up to 300 Us dollars. Because selfish guys say I got the money, I am going to have a good time. Whatever it cost me I am paying it. Once a girl who makes 100 mil discovers she can make 300 us dollars why go back to 100 mil. Why not tell my girlfriends about this discovery. Bottom line is you have every right to spend what the hell you want. But dont act like it doesn't have an impact on the pricing..[/QUOTE]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.

Only know she's 21 vene. Very submissive and docile. Doesn't smoke weed but smoke cigarettes. She's very noticeable. Or that was my lucky day where she looked her best. Body is dead right. Like size 4-6 LOL. Any other hotels clean like priemier plaza in that area and cheaper.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2503481]I can't stop smiling. This is the next to last stage Blakman. You are going to make the rounds of mid range Laureles joints and have a Facebook girl or two and then you will hear that voice again "Centro, Centro" LOL! The next trip you make to Centro will likely be your whisker ceremony in which you become a full fledged Centro rat. Hell, you might even move out of Poblado to get closer to the action. Quick question you don't have to answer: did you get that Venezuelan's phone number? Any other hotels clean like premier plaza in the area

In all honesty I am a little jealous and angry because I planned to roll through Plaza Botero today but I got roped into helping a friend shop for linen. By the time that was over the heavens opened up and a two hour thunderstorm rolled through until almost dark. Tomorrow is another day![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. But obviously some hard working guy if you say so that has great income has made these prices the norm to these girls. I think most of the business men have scammed people out of money and is lavishly and illegally spending other peoples money but that's just speculation LOL. Some of these same girls work as prepagos for 130 mil pesos and hour. Speculation again. Theres reasons for pricing regulations. Centro 10 to 30 k, casas 50 to 130 k, lleras park 150 k, How the fuck did gustos shoot up to 300 Us dollars. Because selfish guys say I got the money, I am going to have a good time. Whatever it cost me I am paying it. Once a girl who makes 100 mil discovers she can make 300 us dollars why go back to 100 mil. Why not tell my girlfriends about this discovery. Bottom line is you have every right to spend what the hell you want. But dont act like it doesn't have an impact on the pricing.

.[/QUOTE]Gustos girls are going to charge what they charge. But here's the thing if a few guys spend 300 usd on a girl it doesn't mean that the girl will get that all the time.

What it does do is bring out new girls into the game all the time. Even normal girls will go out to Lleras look to make some extra $$. When your talking a 500 mil pesos and up it changes a girls mind quick.

These are girls from the mid to upper stratas.

They're not who you would find in Centro or a strip club.

Now yes there are girls who work online or at a casa and try to hit the jackpot in Lleras. However the overall quality of these girls in Gustos is a notch above.

I've banged girls from webcam sites and Bang bros porns. These girls already made $$$ and it would take them a certain amount of $$$ to open their legs.

I can understand when a guy goes to Centro and pays a girl 100 k or when you go to a casa and pay double the price but when it comes to Lleras there is no ruining the market.

If the girl is hot enough she will get her $$.

So overall it won't change the scene. There's the Centro scene, strip club scene, Lleras scene, fb scene.

I think each scene has to be separated from another.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503591]No no no. I could never live with myself if I go the full whiskers. Lets stick with first whisker of finding a slim clean cutie and premier plaza. Simple works for me. Now break down premier plaza to me. It did not make much sense. A day is 32 mil. She says 20 mil is 4 hours. I paid 19 mil and only got 1 HR. Then she mentioned something about bringing a girl. I really didn't tip. She tried to get 50 mil and I just compromise to 40 mil..[/QUOTE]A couple of comments. In regards to what Premium Plaza charged you, I don't know what the current rates are there as I didn't use the Hotel last week, but what I do know is that certain girls who use the Hotel get kickbacks from the Hotel when they bring in a client. In the past I've seen some of my regulars handed a few thousand pesos upon departing and others nothing. You should of been allowed to stay for a more than an hour if not at least 3 hours for what you paid, so I'm confused about the hour. If when you arrived at the Hotel they didn't check her ID, then she probably has a track record with the Hotel, especially if she is a looker. You might want to try Zona Rosa across from the Church next time, it's only 13 K for a few hours and not nearly as nice, but works for me, but you will have to ask for an extra towel.

As far as what you paid the girl, well I personally would not of wasted my time with her. Slim and clean I like, but having to be cute is not so important for me. Given your description of her, she's seasoned, being with other gringos, and hustled you, albeit over chump change.

Lot's of guys come to El Centro looking for "trophy fucks", and I mean this on a totally visual level. For the other "street rat's" here which may not be willing to admit it, if you can get beyond how pretty the face is, there is a lot to be had, and available versus the hustlers, meaning the ones seasoned, and knowing how to play it with the Gringos, and I don't blame them, I would do the same. After a while you can learn to weed out the "hustlers" most of the time during the interview process, yet you need to have Spanish speaking skills to do so.

Now as far as your whisker status, well I'm going to suggest you try something a little bit different next time. I'm not suggesting a glue sniffer, albeit a few are good once you get beyond the stench, LOL, or a very pregnant Chica, or a deaf mute, but perhaps a "plain Jane" Chica with what appears to be a killer body, that's at least what I look for. I'm suggesting this to see how your experience might be compared to a seasoned Chica who knows how to hustle Gringos. You might be pleasantly surprised as to the outcome.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2503555]I have a question. If I book a hotel with 3 people. I am a tutorial and my 2 friends are local Colombian. Do I still have to pay the 19% fee for hotel that they charge for non-tourist?[/QUOTE]Technically if you have a USA Passport then the 19% would be two thirds of that amount. I checked in once to a Hotel with a Colombian with my USA Passport and was only charged 1/2 of the 19 %. However what you need to be careful of are Hotels that will try to charge you the full IVA 19% that only Citizens and Residents of Colombia are subject to.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503595]Gustos is a prime example. You have girls starting at 300 us dollars not 300 mil pesos. That should be ridiculous. .[/QUOTE]Agreed.

They have probably been watching the Girlfriend Experience on Amazon Prime where guys are paying $2000 to fuck Elvis Presley's granddaughter.

There was a girl in Gusto that we spent quite a bit of time during quarentine. She initially wanted 250 prior to covid. With some good reasoning that covid has affected my earnings she dropped to 150 3 hrs, with some good fucking 250 for a day, then some more good fucking 300 mil for a week. Then 150 mil a day. This trip with out quarentine I did get 150 for 4 hrs. But she has been trying to increase to 200 and 300 mil for less hours. Why is that? The influx of guys willing to pay whatever they feel like. I think it does have impact and you think it doesn't but its one love. We agree to disagree.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2503675]Gustos girls are going to charge what they charge. But here's the thing if a few guys spend 300 usd on a girl it doesn't mean that the girl will get that all the time.

What it does do is bring out new girls into the game all the time. Even normal girls will go out to Lleras look to make some extra $$. When your talking a 500 mil pesos and up it changes a girls mind quick.

These are girls from the mid to upper stratas.

They're not who you would find in Centro or a strip club.

Now yes there are girls who work online or at a casa and try to hit the jackpot in Lleras. However the overall quality of these girls in Gustos is a notch above.

I've banged girls from webcam sites and Bang bros porns. These girls already made $$$ and it would take them a certain amount of $$$ to open their legs.

I can understand when a guy goes to Centro and pays a girl 100 k or when you go to a casa and pay double the price but when it comes to Lleras there is no ruining the market.

If the girl is hot enough she will get her $$.

So overall it won't change the scene. There's the Centro scene, strip club scene, Lleras scene, fb scene.

I think each scene has to be separated from another.[/QUOTE].

My closing statement was you can pay whatever you like its your right but do not ignore that your amount does affect the pricing

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Even if you met Colombians outside of Colombia (in Panama or Mexico) they don't charge $200 USD for a fuck. Gustos is a clip joint. You're being robbed.

[QUOTE=Bookie77;2503621]If someone earns 200K US $ or Euro per year and doesn't care if a girl at Gustos asks 300US$ and he doesn't care if she asks too much or not we can't blame him. Even if the girls in Gusto ask 300US$ those guys who don't want to pay that price will look to a different place to find a girl that they like in the price that they think it's fair. But you can't blame those guys who have money and they do not care if they ask too much or not. I guess same thing happens in the US. Don't tell me that in the US everybody can have sex with the most expensive escorts. Only those that they can afford it. Why in Colombia it should be different? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Why do you think guys fly from the USA to South America? Because the market prices are fucked up there. Why do you want to compare what they overpay in USA London Tokyo, seriously? Col is not any of those places, at least not yet, but if it was up to you it would be just like them.

Weak mongers that overpay and write about it here commit 2 crimes, they overpay then they write about it here encouraging others to do the same.

ISG was started to help one another, not to fuck one another over!!

Don't be a misandrist.

1 beer or drink, cover charge, taxi and a pretty mamacita. Pm. Blakman LOL.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2503725]Even if you met Colombians outside of Colombia (in Panama or Mexico) they don't charge $200 USD for a fuck. Gustos is a clip joint. You're being robbed.[/QUOTE]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.

I guess I should have marked it on my calendar. Every 3 months we go over the same tired arguments over pricing and it's always the same stuff.

Blakman, the reason why your quarantine girl dropped her price so much during quarantine is simple, she had no other customers. Now she has other options and the chance of her getting her original price has gone up.

Yippiekayay, Gusto is Gusto. It's not for someone wanting to watch their budget. You find that all over. I can go to Golden Corral and Spend $15 for steak and all I can eat of everything, or I can go to Ruth Chris for steak and spend $80 for half as much food. In Vegas I can go spend $20 a night for a hotel or $400 per night. The people who drop $1000 a night in Gusto are no different than the people dropping $50,000 in a weekend at the Bellagio. If it's in your budget and that's your scene, it's the place to be.

Sangnyc, the girls in Parque Lleras are the same low estrato girls you'll find on Facebook and elsewhere. The high estrato girls are there hanging out and partying with their friends, not looking for a gringo payday.

There are women in the US charging $10,000 and up for a date. There are women in the US charging $60 for a blowjob. No matter how many guys pay $60 for a blowjob, not one of the $10 k girls is coming down to $60. There are girls in Colombia charging $1000 and more. Doesn't matter how many of us spend $12-$15 in El Centro, the girls asking top dollar are still going to ask top dollar.

Pay the price you want to pay. If the girl won't take it move on. If you want to pay more, pay more. Unless you're paying 10,000 times the normal price you're not going to overcome the price pressure from the Colombian mongers.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2503737]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.[/QUOTE]BootyBandit84,

Was curious where you were finding these girls for visits? Online or clubs? Thanks.

I've been out of commission since Monday night. Hoping to be back on my feet tomorrow or Friday. I started coming down with something Monday night and by Tuesday morning I would have paid someone to put me out of my misery. My amateur diagnosis is strep throat. Should have an idea by tomorrow if the antibiotics knock it back.

One of the non-pros brought me food, medicine and some basic supplies today, so I can continue to isolate and rest up. Many thanks to the ISG members I've been talking with for their offers of assistance.

Yesterday's thunderstorm in Laureles was a big one. Not a bad day to stay inside, although I'd rather have been inside doing something warm and wet.

Spent a few hours Monday meeting with the non-pro who would really like an old, fat and tall gringo husband. Unfortunately, it was just a public meeting and lunch. Hoping to get her over before I go.

Last Saturday 3 of the other girls were supposed to take me to Guatape, but one has a sick mother. The trip got moved to Tuesday and then to today, when I had to cancel. I'm hoping I feel good enough to get the trip in Friday or Saturday.

Sunday is my exit day and my boss is already calling wanting me back earlier. Like the girls of Medellin, he'll just have to wait.