Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2503737]You are right about Panama and even Mexico. I have met plenty of Colombian and Venezuelan women in Europe and the US that will definitely ask for 200 $+ for an hour even. Now no way in hell I'm going to pay that much but it is what they are asking because guys can afford to pay it.

Now IN Colombia, not many other than tourists would come even close to that. This week was my first time in Medellin and I tried really hard to hold to standard prices as I hugely over paid the first times I went to Mexico city and the first time I went to Bogota. In those cases I took only one or two trips a year and spend several months worth of money in the few says I visited. Now though (before COVID) I take several trips a year and try to get the best bang for my buck. I think the most I paid out of the 15 visits to my apartment this trip was 200 mil + 20 mil for taxi and that was to a smoking hot 19 year old that I HAD TO HAVE! The old me would not have thought for a second about paying her 100-200 $ dollars for a couple hours because I had the money to spend. New me talked her down from the 250 k + 50 k for taxi she was originally asking.[/QUOTE]Living expenses are higher in Europe and the US. I would understand $200 USD for a hot working girl. That is not the case in Colombia. Very rarely will a chica say no to a reasonable offer. The only times I have gotten a no to 200 K is when I wanted more than just a straight covered fuck (not bareback). The only other time I saw 200 k being turned down is during the busy season in Cartagena. If the chica has lots of offers she will turn you down. If you ask for something above normal she may turn you down. Otherwise they are almost always going to take 200 k. And currency valuation does not matter. It never has and never will. Unless the cost of living goes up they won't expect more.

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Incidently, I did post this in the past about Gustos. I, not once but twice, met a chica in there got her number and told her I wouldn't pay 200 USD. THE SAME NIGHT I would bump into her in lleras and she would go for 200k. There's something about that place that makes the chicas always ask for 200 USD. Even if they go for less outside of Gustos.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503718]There was a girl in Gusto that we spent quite a bit of time during quarentine. She initially wanted 250 prior to covid. With some good reasoning that covid has affected my earnings she dropped to 150 3 hrs, with some good fucking 250 for a day, then some more good fucking 300 mil for a week. Then 150 mil a day. This trip with out quarentine I did get 150 for 4 hrs. But she has been trying to increase to 200 and 300 mil for less hours. Why is that? The influx of guys willing to pay whatever they feel like. I think it does have impact and you think it doesn't but its one love. We agree to disagree.

.[/QUOTE]This is not the reason the prices in Gustos is high. The majority of mongers paying for pussy at Gustos or other higher end establishments are not on this board.

The real reason and the real guys who fuck shit up in general as far as outrageous prices is because of the true idiots in this game.

I'm not talking about the guy who spends 500 usd for a night of pussy. I will never judge a man how much he pays to fuck a girl.

It's the mongers who fall in love with hookers and think they are special. Because all the money in the world can't buy this. So what do men with $$ do? They think throwing lavish gifts and offering a girl a different lifestyle is the way to go all the while emptying out their bank accounts.

I personally know three prepagos who work at Gustos driving Audis in Colombia.

Another one has a house that a gringo bought for them. A fuckin house! Lmao.

The monthly stipend sent through western union.

This is what I call the jackpot for these girls. I'll go out and buy Dom Perignon at Gustos and get the attention of every single girl in there and IF I like one I offer a fair price and exact details of what I want. Once I drop one down their throat I'm done with them. I have repeated with very few girls but none from Gustos.

But I'm paying for MY good time and benefit.

When you consider the REAL IDIOTS whom fall in love with working girls, this is the reason they jack up their prices. Hoping to hit the jackpot. They feel like they can hit the jackpot more than once. And some girls have.

Almost every prepago usually has had one of these types of guys in their lives.

These are the men that feed these girls egos into thinking they deserve the world cause some moron gave it to them.

Even if I pay 200-300 usd when I'm done with them they earned their $$ cause I want nothing more to do with them.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2503508]Thanks for the actual report. La Islas is always hit or miss for me. Have you try Fase Dos?[/QUOTE]I have not been there. Is it any good? I asked my taxi if it was open and he said it wasn't but then again he may have been a lazy driver. If it's open, I'll try to check it out later this week.

Across from Premier Plaza at 15 K are Boulevard Botero and Zona Rosa. I don't believe either of them have hot water but you should confirm. I was asking about the veneca's phone number for you not for me. .

I did a quick stroll through Botero Plaza a little while ago. This might be my imagination but it seems like the number of kiosks and cart vendors is way up since only last week. There is barely room to walk for heaven's sake.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503641]Only know she's 21 vene. Very submissive and docile. Doesn't smoke weed but smoke cigarettes. She's very noticeable. Or that was my lucky day where she looked her best. Body is dead right. Like size 4-6 LOL. Any other hotels clean like priemier plaza in that area and cheaper..[/QUOTE]

Azythromicin 500 MG. Take everyday. Cheap right across from san peters on the side. You drank some bad squirt but you will live. My brother is in the DR. A girl told him her son is sick. I said I know you do not believe that shit LOL. Get better and move your mouth next time she squirt.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503752]I've been out of commission since Monday night. Hoping to be back on my feet tomorrow or Friday. I started coming down with something Monday night and by Tuesday morning I would have paid someone to put me out of my misery. My amateur diagnosis is strep throat. Should have an idea by tomorrow if the antibiotics knock it back.

One of the non-pros brought me food, medicine and some basic supplies today, so I can continue to isolate and rest up. Many thanks to the ISG members I've been talking with for their offers of assistance.

Yesterday's thunderstorm in Laureles was a big one. Not a bad day to stay inside, although I'd rather have been inside doing something warm and wet.

Spent a few hours Monday meeting with the non-pro who would really like an old, fat and tall gringo husband. Unfortunately, it was just a public meeting and lunch. Hoping to get her over before I go.

Last Saturday 3 of the other girls were supposed to take me to Guatape, but one has a sick mother. The trip got moved to Tuesday and then to today, when I had to cancel. I'm hoping I feel good enough to get the trip in Friday or Saturday.

Sunday is my exit day and my boss is already calling wanting me back earlier. Like the girls of Medellin, he'll just have to wait.[/QUOTE].

First time poster on the board however I have been around for a while. I'm visiting Medellin for the 3rd time with some friends from December 1-8. Staying near el poblano. I'm trying to find out if there will be a dry weekend with alcohol while I'm there? From what I can tell, they tend to do one on the weekend with holidays. Greatly appreciate any information you can offer.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503727]1 beer or drink, cover charge, taxi and a pretty mamacita. Pm. Blakman LOL.[/QUOTE]Do you live in Medellin?

I think I walked maybe 5 miles trying to decide, looking for someone clean and pure. Wrong environment right. But that's my mindset. I approach a few and tried 30 mil for 1 hour. I got 30 for 30 minutes 80 for an hour responses. I am like the math doesn't add up. Surf and knowledge explain that one. Then few didn't have cedula. I don't know if they just said that but wasnt going to chance it. Then the big no no of them all. I do not want to say it. Made me feel very uncomfortable out there. Lets say I want no problem with the law. So after 6 miles of walking I passed and hit the vegetable and fruit market.

You are overcomplicating with discussions about minutes and hours. One polvo or two is a more meaningful point to cover. This is Centro, where popcorn and playlists don't matter.

Now, I need your help. And this may be a naive question. Do fruit vendors on the street charge you more in Poblado? I don't have a way to know because I don't remember ever shopping for produce there except in Carulla. I'm curious if there is a Poblado premium among street vendors.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503830]I think I walked maybe 5 miles trying to decide, looking for someone clean and pure. Wrong environment right. But that's my mindset. I approach a few and tried 30 mil for 1 hour. I got 30 for 30 minutes 80 for an hour responses. I am like the math doesn't add up. Surf and knowledge explain that one. Then few didn't have cedula. I don't know if they just said that but wasnt going to chance it. Then the big no no of them all. I do not want to say it. Made me feel very uncomfortable out there. Lets say I want no problem with the law. So after 6 miles of walking I passed and hit the vegetable and fruit market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503823]Azythromicin 500 MG. Take everyday. Cheap right across from san peters on the side. You drank some bad squirt but you will live. My brother is in the DR. A girl told him her son is sick. I said I know you do not believe that shit LOL. Get better and move your mouth next time she squirt..[/QUOTE]One step ahead of you. Already had the azithromycin delivered along with some lozenges and lunch. My nurse also brought a bunch of candy. I'll have to meet up with you and leave them with you to restock your vending machine.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503743]I guess I should have marked it on my calendar. Every 3 months we go over the same tired arguments over pricing and it's always the same stuff.

Blakman, the reason why your quarantine girl dropped her price so much during quarantine is simple, she had no other customers. Now she has other options and the chance of her getting her original price has gone up.

Yippiekayay, Gusto is Gusto. It's not for someone wanting to watch their budget. You find that all over. I can go to Golden Corral and Spend $15 for steak and all I can eat of everything, or I can go to Ruth Chris for steak and spend $80 for half as much food. In Vegas I can go spend $20 a night for a hotel or $400 per night. The people who drop $1000 a night in Gusto are no different than the people dropping $50,000 in a weekend at the Bellagio. If it's in your budget and that's your scene, it's the place to be.

Sangnyc, the girls in Parque Lleras are the same low estrato girls you'll find on Facebook and elsewhere. The high estrato girls are there hanging out and partying with their friends, not looking for a gringo payday.

There are women in the US charging $10,000 and up for a date. There are women in the US charging $60 for a blowjob. No matter how many guys pay $60 for a blowjob, not one of the $10 k girls is coming down to $60. There are girls in Colombia charging $1000 and more. Doesn't matter how many of us spend $12-$15 in El Centro, the girls asking top dollar are still going to ask top dollar.

Pay the price you want to pay. If the girl won't take it move on. If you want to pay more, pay more. Unless you're paying 10,000 times the normal price you're not going to overcome the price pressure from the Colombian mongers.[/QUOTE]The sky is the limit on overpaying unless you hit 100000% over, otherwise you're not overdoing it or harming the market.

Thanks for clearing that up for us all.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2503743]I guess I should have marked it on my calendar. Every 3 months we go over the same tired arguments over pricing and it's always the same stuff.

Blakman, the reason why your quarantine girl dropped her price so much during quarantine is simple, she had no other customers. Now she has other options and the chance of her getting her original price has gone up.

Yippiekayay, Gusto is Gusto. It's not for someone wanting to watch their budget. You find that all over. I can go to Golden Corral and Spend $15 for steak and all I can eat of everything, or I can go to Ruth Chris for steak and spend $80 for half as much food. In Vegas I can go spend $20 a night for a hotel or $400 per night. The people who drop $1000 a night in Gusto are no different than the people dropping $50,000 in a weekend at the Bellagio. If it's in your budget and that's your scene, it's the place to be.

Sangnyc, the girls in Parque Lleras are the same low estrato girls you'll find on Facebook and elsewhere. The high estrato girls are there hanging out and partying with their friends, not looking for a gringo payday.

There are women in the US charging $10,000 and up for a date. There are women in the US charging $60 for a blowjob. No matter how many guys pay $60 for a blowjob, not one of the $10 k girls is coming down to $60. There are girls in Colombia charging $1000 and more. Doesn't matter how many of us spend $12-$15 in El Centro, the girls asking top dollar are still going to ask top dollar.

Pay the price you want to pay. If the girl won't take it move on. If you want to pay more, pay more. Unless you're paying 10,000 times the normal price you're not going to overcome the price pressure from the Colombian mongers.[/QUOTE]I agree a lot of them are. But you should know there is a different breed of girls in Lleras as well.

Just like anywhere in the states there's always girls who consider themselves upper echelon and don't take Centro or even fb prices.

I've been to medellin 10 x in 2 years and there is a distinct difference in the type of girl working in Lleras.

I'm not saying all of them are more attractive but definitely a different breed.

My only point I've been making everytime this convo comes up and I see someone bashing another for spending too much and act like we're ruining something for them. Which is completely untrue.

A simple monger who pays a girl for sex and moves onto the next will not ruin anyone's market.

It's the ones who fall in love and go heads over heels for these girls that's feeds their ego and makes them think they are more than a puta. That's what ruins the market.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2503830]I think I walked maybe 5 miles trying to decide, looking for someone clean and pure. Wrong environment right. But that's my mindset. I approach a few and tried 30 mil for 1 hour. I got 30 for 30 minutes 80 for an hour responses. I am like the math doesn't add up. Surf and knowledge explain that one. Then few didn't have cedula. I don't know if they just said that but wasn't going to chance it. Then the big no no of them all. I do not want to say it. Made me feel very uncomfortable out there. Lets say I want no problem with the law. So after 6 miles of walking I passed and hit the vegetable and fruit market.[/QUOTE]Blakman, all due respect, but your over thinking things, and focusing on the wrong things in navigating El Centro.

First off, if you have even the slightest thought in your mind that the girl your thinking of going with is less than 18, and doesn't have either a Cedula or Passport, don't even engage with her, and walk away, which you have been doing, and is smart to do.

Moving past this, stick to either the Premier Plaza or Hotel Zona Rosa (ZR), and yes ZR has hot water, and they will check ID's if they think anyone is under age. I have one Chica that is over thirty and was refused entry at Zona Rosa because they thought she was under age, and didn't have a Cedula. These two Hotels, which I know from personal experience, are very diligent in this regards, so I stick with them, albeit I use others as well where there are no obvious age issues.

You also have to get out of the mindset of negotiating time with the El Centro Chicas. Keep in mind that probably over 99% of the El Centro Chicas clients are locals, so they are not there to be romancing these Chicas, but to blow a load, and a get out of dodge. Therefore, stop getting quotes for extended time until you find a repeat that you want to spend time with. Most encounters for these Chicas are short, so when you ask for more time, of course they are going to ask for more, and Colombians math skills as you have noticed don't add up meaning 1 plus 1 doesn't equal 2 but 3.

You should also be focused on the services your looking for such as a BBBJ, versus how many minutes as I have mentioned. Basically, once you blow a load, your time is up, and that is how it works in El Centro until you establish a rapport and repeat with the Chicas. Agreeing to set time may set you you up for being dinged for more money if you exceed your time. For a first time Chica, never mention time, just focus on the services you want.

It's so fucking cheap in El Centro that if you have a bad session, and / or don't finish, you just go back outside and get another one, as I have done this before.

Also, I don't know what your Spanish speaking skills are, but if you're having to rely on a translator, this is going to put you at a dis-advantage.

Again, El Centro is a "locals" venue versus Tinder or Fayboo, so how you operate is going to be different.

I hope this makes sense and helps.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2503822]Across from Premier Plaza at 15 K are Boulevard Botero and Zona Rosa. I don't believe either of them have hot water but you should confirm. I was asking about the veneca's phone number for you not for me. .

I did a quick stroll through Botero Plaza a little while ago. This might be my imagination but it seems like the number of kiosks and cart vendors is way up since only last week. There is barely room to walk for heaven's sake.[/QUOTE]Zona Rosa is 13K, at least that was what I was charged last week, and has hot water, yet you have to ask for a second towel. Since I'm a preferred client, they automatically give me a second towel along with an upgraded room, LOL, but I'm a big tipper giving the girls at the front desk 2 K each.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2503838]The sky is the limit on overpaying unless you hit 100000% over, otherwise you're not overdoing it or harming the market.

Thanks for clearing that up for us all.[/QUOTE]Why can't anyone around here handle basic math? Surely I didn't go to the only school where it was a required subject? I'm sorry the education system failed you.

There is 1 spot in Medellin where gringos outnumber Colombians: The Mansion (search Hotel M Medellin). Even in Gusto and New Life, Colombians outnumber the gringos. Everywhere else it's not even close. Don't believe me? Tell me how many gringos you've seen along Veracruz, Raudal or Botero Plaza compared to the number of Colombians. Tell me, of all the times you've been in Aiffe, Chicas Punta Com, Club Amigas Sexy, Zandalay, Yakuza and all the other El Centro casas, what was the ratio of Colombians to gringos. Sorry about that. Ratios require knowledge of mathematics. Counting on your fingers, of all the customers you've seen in all the Medellin strip clubs, how many were gringos?

We are a tiny part of the customer base. Any impact we have is temporary. You think the Colombians living in La Ladera, La Milagrosa or Doce de Octubre are paying 600 k for sex because some weekender from NYC was throwing money around Parque Lleras last weekend?

You know what happens when 1 guy overpays 1 girl? The next guy who hits her up, she throws out that number. Then when the guy says he isn't paying that much, she comes right back down. Do you honestly believe all the girls are going to sit at home for 6 weeks waiting for someone else to pay that price?

Had a girl tell me she wouldn't accept anything under 250 k. What the hell, I paid it. Two weeks later I had a friend who was looking for her type. I told her he wouldn't pay more than 150 k. She was at his door 2 hours later. The last time I saw her I paid 90 k.

Empty bellies influence the price a lot more than any overpaying gringo.