Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Sazanka has a good reputation but seems to me that they are not on the "slow" side. I don't know if it was the expectation or the extremly skilled hands, but the two time I went there, quite a long time ago, I came in no time.Seems to me that they go straight for the moves which will get you done without giving you the time to build up resistance. Maybe that's just me and my mind, because I can last without probleme when I'm in control.Any senior member with a theory on that matter or good places recomandations?

[QUOTE=Thickcumm]Hello sir!I am wondering if you can tell me where the massage parlors are in Bangkok thai traditional massage that offer a good massage and then a HJ. Many places ask me about specials but I want a place where the massage is a teaser and then I have no choice but to say yes to the HJ and the HJ is really slow and good. Can you recommend and if not can you point me to someone that can? Thank you for your time![/QUOTE]Go see Khun Anne at Friends Barber & Massage on Sukhumvit Soi 19. She's a big "old" girl, but IMO, her HJ is second to none. She'll also shave your balls clean if you ask her. ;)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Go see Khun Anne at Friends Barber & Massage on Sukhumvit Soi 19. She's a big "old" girl, but IMO, her HJ is second to none. She'll also shave your balls clean if you ask her. ;)[/QUOTE]Visited Friends Barber & Massage two days ago. Just can confirm the great service the girls provide even if they are a bit on the older side.My massage girl has shown me her brithday suit and got me a great HJ and BBBJ as a special service.

Need to ask since it is not clear in the threads.I have been in two different massage establishments where the girl after the massage quotes 2000 for a HJ, first time I thought it was just because I was in a "tourist" area and started laughing but said 500, she settled for 800.Second experience was close to soi cowboy and again I was quoted 2000 for a HJ. Is this now the de facto starting price for a HJ? I can get FS for 800 in Pattaya massage and was flabbergasted at the quoted prices. Can experienced mongers give me direction on what the price for HJ, BJ, FS are in Bangkok massage today.Last time I was here the prices were 500, 800, 1000 has things really changed that much?

[QUOTE=Mouse1]In brief, I'm happy to recommend the delightful Miss Bo, who was extraordinarily enthusiastic, passionate, skillful, and just, well, sexy...![/QUOTE]Had originally booked Ice for outcall on my arrival day but something came up and she wasn't able to make earlier appointment. So I asked for Bo - good attitude, hard 'worker', my jet lagged kicked up (or maybe my age?), got in only one pop during the 2 hr session. She's a trooper, gave a solid massage - but absolutely flat as a board ;)As usual, YMMV....

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld]Need to ask since it is not clear in the threads...Last time I was here the prices were 500, 800, 1000 has things really changed that much?[/QUOTE]In Bangkok 2010, I think 500, 1000, 1500 is the [i]par[/i] rate for most obvious [i]boom boom[/i] shops. That said, depending on the quality of the shop, your demeanor, and the girl's popularity and hungry quotient, this can vary a bit. When it is slow in some of the older looking, less obvious shops you can probably get FS for 1000. But you might not be welcomed back with a smile!In the big picture, consider that 100 baht is a little over $3us, and it will easily buy three plates of food on the corner. The girl might have a kid at home...It is so slow right now that I don't imagine any girl would let a "tipping" customer walk out the door without some form of happiness, and some [i]som tam[/i] money in her pocket. If the requested amount is outrageous (e.g., 2K baht for a HJ), just saying, "no thank you," is the most powerful tool when negotiating with a Thai woman.

Thai girls have been spoilt by stupid tourists willing to pay the big demands for cash.So its natural they will try it on with all.HJ is 500 baht or simply say "no thanks".HJ and BF combination is 1000 baht.FS is 1500 baht.Thats it.If the FS is no good and no agreement has been made on price you can pay 1000 baht. A 1500baht payment is really only for "good sex" - not lousy performance.They will nearly all try to ask you to pay more ESPECIALLY if you are in places around Sukhumvit Soi's 3 to 15 - they have the highest amount of walk in tourists and so they have the highest amount of mug punters willing to pay 2000 baht for a HJ.Stick to the guidelines and where possible look for your massage on Soi 24 or 24/1 or 26 area.[QUOTE=WeaverWorld]Need to ask since it is not clear in the threads.I have been in two different massage establishments where the girl after the massage quotes 2000 for a HJ, first time I thought it was just because I was in a "tourist" area and started laughing but said 500, she settled for 800.Second experience was close to soi cowboy and again I was quoted 2000 for a HJ. Is this now the de facto starting price for a HJ? I can get FS for 800 in Pattaya massage and was flabbergasted at the quoted prices. Can experienced mongers give me direction on what the price for HJ, BJ, FS are in Bangkok massage today.Last time I was here the prices were 500, 800, 1000 has things really changed that much?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]In Bangkok 2010, I think 500, 1000, 1500 is the [i]par[/i] rate for most obvious [i]boom boom[/i] shops. That said, depending on the quality of the shop, your demeanor, and the girl's popularity and hungry quotient, this can vary a bit. When it is slow in some of the older looking, less obvious shops you can probably get FS for 1000. But you might not be welcomed back with a smile![/quote]Great info thanks, always easier when you know the market price. It does feel that prices increase even though tourism has gone down.[quote]In the big picture, consider that 100 baht is a little over $3us, and it will easily buy three plates of food on the corner. The girl might have a kid at home.[/QUOTE]Not getting this, you would then pay higher than market price for food of a tv because the person selling you the item might have kids at home?The reference to the USD doesn't even make sense either unless you want to talk about purchase parity. You get a shitload more stuff for 2000 baht than you do for 60 USD.Appreciate your answer though and will be better equipped at next negotiation.

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld] It does feel that prices increase even though tourism has gone down.[/QUOTE]Thai logic. "Tourism down ---> less punters ---> less money ---> increase prices to balance things out."Compared to "Tourism down ---> less money ---> decrease prices to increase the punters."

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld]...Not getting this, you would then pay higher than market price for food of a tv because the person selling you the item might have kids at home?..The reference to the USD doesn't even make sense either unless you want to talk about purchase parity. You get a shitload more stuff for 2000 baht than you do for 60 USD...Appreciate your answer though and will be better equipped at next negotiation.[/QUOTE]Sorry, if I was not clear here.Just saying that to most foreign mongers, 100 baht (= $3 us) is not a great deal of money. Personally, I don't equate sexual services on the same exchange level as buying food or consumer items. It is my opinion that a women gives up a lot when she services a stranger with a HJ, or fucks him. That's just me, though, and as I live in Bangkok, I often return to see my preferred providers many times.So, if you get good service, or don't feel like negotiating too hard, the difference you pay (e.g., 100, 200 or even 500 baht), should really not mean much to you. But to the service provider, it can mean food for at least day for herself [i]and[/i] her family. I tip the doorman at my building from time to time, too, sometimes for no good reason. The average Thai person earns 200 baht a day. I live with Thai people. I know what 100 baht means to a Thai person, massage ladies, included.When I worked in tourism related professions that included tips, people occasionally palmed me $100us above and beyond the normal. I used to get "stiffed," too!I know that some mongers feel they have to extract maximum value from every baht that leaves their wallet. And that "beating down" the girls is part of the game. So be it.

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld]Second experience was close to soi cowboy and again I was quoted 2000 for a HJ.[/QUOTE]That's ridiculous. In Afterskool in Soi Cowboy 300 is enough.In a massage joint, 500 would be plenty.

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld]Need to ask since it is not clear in the threads.I have been in two different massage establishments where the girl after the massage quotes 2000 for a HJ, first time I thought it was just because I was in a "tourist" area and started laughing but said 500, she settled for 800.Second experience was close to soi cowboy and again I was quoted 2000 for a HJ. Is this now the de facto starting price for a HJ? I can get FS for 800 in Pattaya massage and was flabbergasted at the quoted prices. Can experienced mongers give me direction on what the price for HJ, BJ, FS are in Bangkok massage today.Last time I was here the prices were 500, 800, 1000 has things really changed that much?[/QUOTE]Wow WeaverWorld,Last night I paid just 1500 for FS on Soi 22. She was really good as well.To be honest if I get offered just a HJ, I tend to remember that BBBJ with CIM is only 700 at SOL. Hence I spend more time at SOL than in MP.Boater Boy

Why people are talking about HJ?This is Thailand the only world are FS.

[QUOTE=Kuratla]Thai logic. "Tourism down ---> less punters ---> less money ---> increase prices to balance things out."Compared to "Tourism down ---> less money ---> decrease prices to increase the punters."[/QUOTE]May be :Tourism down ---> less punters ---> less money ---> more choices ----> less demand ----> better bargain..?I thought this is the demand and supply thumb rules!

[QUOTE=Boater Boy]To be honest if I get offered just a HJ, I tend to remember that BBBJ with CIM is only 700 at SOL.[/QUOTE]Quite right. If you are only into a HJ or BJ, then Star of Light is not only a great value but it's also just about the best in the business.