Panama City

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1650471]I can confirm. The girls at Veneto come in through the back and pay 15 to enter. After 11 pm they let even more girls in.

Also the security person intercepting guests is getting very good at it. He will hide behind a pillar and come out to catch you at the elevators.

Panama needs to regulate its cab industry. I now go out sight seeing regularly with a Panamanian girl who does all the talking. Instead of 10 dollar fares I pay two dollar ones. I have a dark enough complexion to appear to be a shy local when I ride cabs with her.

The girl I hang with is very interesting. She does not regard me as a john or her as a prostitute. She says I am helping her not paying her.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got burned once by the white cabs in front of Veneto. This was a few months ago, but one night I went with a chica from the Veneto to Via Argentina, and the cabbie wanted $10, and he got it, too. The gal I was with was Panamanian, and was confused as to why a 2-3 dollar fare was 10 bucks, but the taxi driver said it's a tourist taxi, and more safe, blah, blah, blah.

Remember to avoid the white taxis. I did use one to go to the airport, for $30, instead of getting a yellow taxi for $25. That was fine by me.

Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1650705]Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?[/QUOTE]I met her and her friend at Habanos. I lucked out I think. They initially wanted 400 each for short time. I negotiated 200 each for all night. We fucked from 10 pm to 5 am, with room service in between and just making jokes.

We exchanged numbers and the next day the one I liked most just started coming by in the morning. She dressed like a normal chica so security at Veneto did not bother her.

I stopped mongering really. I would give her 60 to 100 at around 2 am when she would go home. Some nights she would sleep until morning and only go home to feed her cat.

I got a GFE all day for 4 days + tour guide and Spanish instructor. Nearing the end I just asked her if she liked being a prostitute but she said she isn't one. She sleeps with tourists for "help" since she had two daughters.

This is the type of mongering I like. I'll keep in touch with her because I plan to visit again.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1650891]I met her and her friend at Habanos. I lucked out I think. They initially wanted 400 each for short time. I negotiated 200 each for all night. We fucked from 10 pm to 5 am, with room service in between and just making jokes.

We exchanged numbers and the next day the one I liked most just started coming by in the morning. She dressed like a normal chica so security at Veneto did not bother her.

I stopped mongering really. I would give her 60 to 100 at around 2 am when she would go home. Some nights she would sleep until morning and only go home to feed her cat.

I got a GFE all day for 4 days + tour guide and Spanish instructor. Nearing the end I just asked her if she liked being a prostitute but she said she isn't one. She sleeps with tourists for "help" since she had two daughters.

This is the type of mongering I like. I'll keep in touch with her because I plan to visit again.[/QUOTE]Hey,

That sounds great! Sounds like you had a good experience. My experience was that the Panamanian gals are a bit nicer, a bit more like normal chicks, like you experienced. I mean this in contrast to the Colombianas who seem more hardened, more "business-minded" types. More greedy. Also, the Cubanas were like this, too. (Did you meet any of the Cubanas at the Veneto or Habanos?

Curious if the Hilton or Waldorf Astoria are chica friendly, anyone have any info on it?

Don't ever be cheap to taxi people. Worldwide they work long hours for nearly nothing. Paying high prices for hookers is wrong too.

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1650705]Yeah, I got burned once by the white cabs in front of Veneto. This was a few months ago, but one night I went with a chica from the Veneto to Via Argentina, and the cabbie wanted $10, and he got it, too. The gal I was with was Panamanian, and was confused as to why a 2-3 dollar fare was 10 bucks, but the taxi driver said it's a tourist taxi, and more safe, blah, blah, blah.

Remember to avoid the white taxis. I did use one to go to the airport, for $30, instead of getting a yellow taxi for $25. That was fine by me.

Hey, how did you meet your sightseeing girl? At the Veneto? What does she mean when she says you are helping her by not paying her? Surely she is getting some form of compensation, for something or another?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You69Me;1652712]Don't ever be cheap to taxi people. Worldwide they work long hours for nearly nothing. Paying high prices for hookers is wrong too.[/QUOTE]So pay the guy driving you more and the woman fucking you less?

Hello,

Can anyone confirm or deny that the Hotel Riu in Panama city is chica friendly? When I was there practically every chica I asked said its very friendly as long as you are discreet (start drinking at the bar then go up).

Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

Veneto.

First off the Veneto is an absolute dump. It is my fourth time to stay there and it progressively gets worse. The hallways stink and floors are always soaked in water from rains. The rooms are dirty. Housekeeping is always just barging into your room, even if you have a do not disturb sign on. The pool was closed more than it was open. I could go on and on, but you get the point. It sucked.

To make things worse, the $50 chica fee for your room is real. After dark there is a large black man standing guard at the casino level. He has a clipboard and makes you go downstairs to pay and register the girl. A little later in the night there are men at the bottom entrance too.

With that being said I was able to sneak by multiple times. My first night I picked up a smoker (9 in my opinion) from Habanos. We agreed to $100 and we took a taxi to Veneto. We walked straight in the bottom floor elevators as the guy was sidetracked. Lucky me.

The next night I was talking to every girl in Veneto. There was about 30-40 I believe. I kept asking them if they knew any way to get past the security. The basically said no but its possible if they find a key to go up by themselves when the guy isn't looking. I negotiated for a busty black chica to come up to my room for $50. (As far as I know I broke the record for actually getting a chica under $60 in Veneto. Most start at $150 and few will ever go under $100).

So I went up to the room on my own. The chica found a key from a friend and met me up there. Lucky me.

Another night I had a successful sneak attack on the large black security man because my girl was hip to the game. She took me to the slots on the opposite side of where all the action is and we sat near the door. We waited till it was open from someone getting out and made a break for it. The security guy was looking away but looked at us right as the door closed. I got a boner just from the excitement and I fucked like a champ.

Habanos.

This place is packed as ever with smoking hot Colombians. I couldn't count them all, but there is a lot. They all start at around $150 and demand $100 at the lowest. Plus you have to pay an up-price for taxis. Beers range from $4 to $5 here.

I took one chica home for $100. The girl and me WhatApp messages for a few days and I later negotiated her for $80 toda la noche. (I may have broke another record for getting lowest toda la noche for a chica from Habanos.) It helped that we hit it off and were about the same age. I had visited her hometown in Colombia and we had lots to talk about. We both speak English and Spanish and flip back and forth between the two.

That night I met the girl at a cool restaurant called Mendozas (on Via Argentina- look it up on Facebook) and we sat on the patio. She actually dressed kinda normal, which I liked. Later on is when we back to Veneto and were lucky on getting in thru the door while the security guy was talking to other people.

Bocaratona

This is the hidden gem of Panama and I almost do not want to talk too much about it. My buddy Biff Dangler (a Panama expert who is on the forum) took me to this place on my first night. The only reason I am going to write more is because I do not think many gringos will feel safe here.

The bar is near Casco Viejo and is next door to La Mayor. You walk in the saloon like doors and instantly smell feet and puke. All you see if local Pana men pounding beers and leaning against walls. They do not look to happy to see unfamiliar faces. The music is bumping and you wonder what the fuck you are doing here.

Then you walk 40 feet forward. At any given time there is between 10 and 80 chicas leaning against walls and tables near the back. At night they range from 4's to 8's. During the day they are hotter. The busiest time is happy hour (5 ish) because lots of locals go to get a fuck in before they go home.

Most girls are $15 for a fuck that HAS to last less than 20 minutes. The hotter ones demand $20. Of this $5 goes to the house for the little booth-room that you fuck them in. They supply you with the condom.

The sex is pretty routine. 30 seconds of head and then you pick a position.

Beer is $1.25 here. If your huevos are big enough go. If you are timid or look like a big pussy, don't go. A lot of locals won't even go.

My love for cheap / hot pussy and cheap / cold beer is too strong to keep me away. I went every day. But in my case I could have thrashed 90% of the guys in there in a fight. (one on one of course, I would have got murdered if I was jumped).

The chicks are hotter than expected and the beer is cheap as fuck. I smashed a high 8 at 3 pm one day and I loved it. She actually rode me and I about exploded instantly. She was hot enough to date in public.

Gruta Azul.

This place I have been to a few times. My buddy Biff took me here too. The chicks are hot. The beers are more expensive.

The problem is there was not enough girls there to smash all the dudes. It is a much higher class place.

I will not return.

My next trip
I will find a hotel close to Bocatorena and arrange take out from there. I have a hankering for the seedy life and I think that area and those chicks are what I need.

I will never go back to Veneto and I will never pay $100 or more for pussy in Panama.

Conclusion.

Panama is not a dying mongering destination, one just has to expand out. There are lots of places that are not reported on this forum. Finding a local is best, but a taxi driver will sometimes do. The prices do not have to be $100 and up. $40-$50 will do the trick on most if you have game and go to the right places.

One night I even arranged to pound a waitress from Bar Peru for $60. She was a natural Colombian semi-pro. (these girls are everywhere!

It is true that girls in Panama are more business than in Colombia or Nicaragua (in general). The sex is more routine. In some other places, you get the feel they want to date you. Here it only happens if you are young, good looking, rich, or whatever. The average monger will get a slammed door when they leave and no love afterwards.

If I had to pick a country to return to monger between Central America and the northern section of South America, I would still go with Panama. With that being said, my personal circumstances line up better than some others (language skills, looks, knowing locals, ect). I also am not looking for a wife or girlfriend.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;1654688]Spent 6 days and 5 nights in Panama City recently. Stayed all nights at the Veneto.

To make things worse, the $50 chica fee for your room is real. After dark there is a large black man standing guard at the casino level. He has a clipboard and makes you go downstairs to pay and register the girl. A little later in the night there are men at the bottom entrance too.[/QUOTE]So on the sneaking past this part: if the chica is dressed like a hooker they stop you. If the chica is dressed like a normal person they don't stop you even late at night. After hooking the Panamanian in for full day hang outs and fucking, I would routinely go up and down with her as we picked more destinations to do things at. The security guy just completely ignored us. I think he's told not to fuck with normal guest activity. Just the mongering and he's careful about it.

BTW, he speaks no English, and I think he's embarrassed about it. Otherwise he seems like a nice guy just doing his job.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;1654688]Bocaratona

Most girls are $15 for a fuck that HAS to last less than 20 minutes. The hotter ones demand $20. Of this $5 goes to the house for the little booth-room that you fuck them in. They supply you with the condom.

The sex is pretty routine. 30 seconds of head and then you pick a position.[/QUOTE]You're a champ and so is everyone else who can fuck in under 20 minutes. Seriously. I only do TLN because I need to go at it a few times before I can finally bust a nut.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;1654688]Panama is not a dying mongering destination, one just has to expand out. There are lots of places that are not reported on this forum. Finding a local is best, but a taxi driver will sometimes do. The prices do not have to be $100 and up. $40-$50 will do the trick on most if you have game and go to the right places.[/QUOTE]It's going to become even more hardcore after the canal in Nicaragua opens up, and the economy in Panama takes a hit. I spoke to a friend who has mongered for many more years than me. In his own words, Panama City is about as insane as going to Thailand. He might be exaggerating.

Unless I can confirm another proper hotel (room service, room safe) that is chica friendly, I think I will book the Veneto in February for a week.

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1650411]There was some talk about the $50 charge when it started about a week ago, and it is in the "General Info" thread for Panama. (The top thread in the Panama forum.) Yes, it is a chica fee. There are some ways around it, like bringing the chica up before or after the security person is by the elevator, which is maybe 9 pm to 3 am.

Interestingly, one of the chicas told me that she had to pay $15 per night to the Veneto, in order to work the casino floor area.[/QUOTE]Definitely if the girl is going to the reception thex want to charge you $50.

Same in the Sheraton Hotel, in the Hilton 100, Hard Rock Hotel much more.

In the most hotels they stop the Colombian Girls, they guess they are Escorts.

Try to find a really discrete girl, dressed normal. Or take a European LOL.

Or enter with her together your hotel.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1655049]So on the sneaking past this part: if the chica is dressed like a hooker they stop you. If the chica is dressed like a normal person they don't stop you even late at night. After hooking the Panamanian in for full day hang outs and fucking, I would routinely go up and down with her as we picked more destinations to do things at. The security guy just completely ignored us. I think he's told not to fuck with normal guest activity. Just the mongering and he's careful about it.

BTW, he speaks no English, and I think he's embarrassed about it. Otherwise he seems like a nice guy just doing his job.

You're a champ and so is everyone else who can fuck in under 20 minutes. Seriously. I only do TLN because I need to go at it a few times before I can finally bust a nut.

It's going to become even more hardcore after the canal in Nicaragua opens up, and the economy in Panama takes a hit. I spoke to a friend who has mongered for many more years than me. In his own words, Panama City is about as insane as going to Thailand. He might be exaggerating.

Unless I can confirm another proper hotel (room service, room safe) that is chica friendly, I think I will book the Veneto in February for a week.[/QUOTE]I know you referred to a proper hotel, but there are lots of short term apartments available to rent in the area that would work great. If it had a spare room, one could lock their things in it. With the hotels getting even stricter in Panama, I see this as a great option for many looking to cut the chica fee out.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;1659297]I know you referred to a proper hotel, but there are lots of short term apartments available to rent in the area that would work great. If it had a spare room, one could lock their things in it. With the hotels getting even stricter in Panama, I see this as a great option for many looking to cut the chica fee out.[/QUOTE]Any apartment recommendations? I've noticed places like Panama Studio Apartments for around 60/ night but never inquired and wondered if they allow guests. I've really enjoyed staying at the Veneto but their ever-changing chica policy can really put a damper on an otherwise fun trip.

What if you book a room for 2? Couldn't this be a way around the chica fee from the hotel?

[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1650411]There was some talk about the $50 charge when it started about a week ago, and it is in the "General Info" thread for Panama. (The top thread in the Panama forum.) Yes, it is a chica fee. There are some ways around it, like bringing the chica up before or after the security person is by the elevator, which is maybe 9 pm to 3 am.

Interestingly, one of the chicas told me that she had to pay $15 per night to the Veneto, in order to work the casino floor area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1663481]What if you book a room for 2? Couldn't this be a way around the chica fee from the hotel?[/QUOTE]Well with most hotels the policy is you'd have to register one woman as your novia or guest and she would be the only one allowed up to the room with you for the duration of your stay.

So, recent development that started a month or so but really accelerated in the last few weeks is the flood of smoking hot Cubans. They are everywhere, they are smoking hot, and they are "young and fresh" I. E. They don't have the hardened pro look. I sat with three of them last night at Veneto. Apparently they have figured some loophole where they can get into Ecuador from Cuba (due to Correa's friendship with the Castros) and then from Ecuador they can make it to PTY.

I haven't been this excited to be a monger in many, many years.