American Politics

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2586569]Don't try and reason with them. They are too far gone. The purpose of their trolling is autostimulation. I believe it is a mistake to engage with them in any manner.[/QUOTE]John Clayton said don't try and reason with them. Reason is democrats can't reason with people who have common sense. They said Trump was too slow to react to Covid and now Biden has had the chance to learn from Trump but he blazes away a new trail on Covid restrictions.

Border to Canada is closed so no vaccinated Canadians can enter our country to keep USA citizens safe.

Border from Mexico is open to illegals that aren't vaccinated with about 30% of them actually getting Covid.

2,000,000 unvaccinated illegals entering USA travelling on buses and planes to several states.

Now USA has a Covid surge so we must get all USA citizens to start wearing masks. Illegals are except.

Is there one democrat here with common sense that we can reason with?

Is there one democrat here that can explain why 100 vaccinated people can enter the USA legally but 2,000,000 unvaccinated illegals can enter and it is not a threat to Covid super spreading?

I realize democrats can't reason with common sense but there has to be one that is smart enough to admit this might be a Covid problem.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2586560]You [B]always[/B] say that there's evidence but you never post any. Why is that?

How is an unvaccinated illegal with COVID different from an unvaccinated dumper with COVID? Dumpers don't travel?

If they are "uneducated illegals that will end up on welfare, etc", how does that square with your previous statements that they are here to take US jobs? Which jobs? Sex worker jobs? Jobs picking fruits and vegetables? You want to have everything both ways. They are either uneducated or they're not! If they are, then they can't take the jobs that Americans don't want. If they are educated, then calling them uneducated is a lie.[/QUOTE]There are as many unvaccinated democrats as Republicans. Unvaccinated illegals are not wearing masks and several have Covid. They can't take jobs from Americans because employers can't hire them legally. As per laws by Obama. They will have to be sex workers, join gangs, sell drugs or work for some illegal employers. You claim they are coming to pick vegetables but you have not provided any proof of this. Show me where these 2,000,000 are picking vegetables. Show me the jobs they are taking that Americans won't do. You made these statements so prove it. I can prove that illegals can't work legally in the USA.

Where have we heard that before? The, I agree that the dynamic duo in the White House is substandard, but look at the pile of crap left for them to deal with by the great businessman who alone could fix it, but didn't? You trolls don't understand "nuance", but as W said, "even the French Don't have a word for that". There are plenty of ISG members who have destroyed your arguments. But in your mind that makes them the dreaded "communists". The CCP call themselves communists, but they are brutal thugs presiding over an opaque capitalist system called "socialism with Chinese characteristics. You failed to critically study history, but that can be partially blamed on educational systems, but you can overcome that gap with further study. Come back and see us when you have more knowledge, instead of spewing venom because of your grievances against people who "don't belong here" You can not define me. I define myself with my own words.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2586502]You are conflating the 2 issues. I think on purpose because you are obviously not unintelligent nor uneducated.

The open border: 1) the only reason the left wants an open border, insists on an open border, is that the Party Leaders desperately need a massive influx of new votes to achieve the ultimate objective of a nonviolent takeover of the United States of America and the establishment of a one-party socialist state. You know this, I know this, everyone with a functioning brain knows this, so cut the BS. 2) Because of this overwhelming compulsion to establish this socialist one-party state the Democrats in the White House and Congress and their partners and co-conspirators in the corporate media are willing to overlook the fact that thousands of these illegal immigrants currently crossing the border into the USA have the Covid 19 variant. This says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this disaster in all your posts.

The 2nd issue is the rampant increase in violent crime in all Democratic Party controlled major American cities. Roughly 80% of these violent crimes are Black on Black and therefore to do anything meaningful to reduce the violent crime in these areas would require refunding the police departments, restoring stop, ask, and frisk laws, and putting Black violent criminals in prisons which is something the Left is unwilling to do. So violent crime will continue to rise in all American cities as the incompetent, politically correct, Leftist mayors and governors will make more speeches on racism, gun control and how terrible it is to have licensed legal gun ownership in America IE the 2nd Amendment. It is all BS because the Left for strictly political reasons can not & will not admit who commits the highest percentage of violent crimes in American cities even though the victims of these violent crimes are predominately innocent Black Americans. Again, this says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this American disaster in all your posts.

I presume you will post a lengthy comeback position ignoring the crux of my post. That's fine. I wouldn't dream of suppressing your freedom of speech or thought the way your Antifa, BLM bully boys are salivating to suppress my freedoms, but frankly as a long time fellow BKK punter and lover of Thai girls, there is nothing more you and I can say to one another on American Politics as long as you support open borders, rampant violent crime in American cities, and the 3rd issue; CRT indoctrination of American children in schools.

Sawasdee Krab,

NB.[/QUOTE]Natty, again, you have joined the "What links? What proof? We don't need any stinking proof! We just need to say it!" crowd here who has no proof or evidence to support your position.

In this case, I can see that illegals crossing the border really, really bugs you. But until you can show me that what is happening at the border is creating a "crisis" in the USA economy or producing grave damage to national security I am not going to share your hand-wringing, teeth gnashing worry about it. I realize it is "something" to pay attention to. But it can and should go way down the list of things for me to, say, base a precious vote on.

For example, I would much rather vote against the next Great Repub Crash, Recession and "Once in 100 Years Disaster!", a REAL threat to the economy and national security, which all historical evidence clearly shows is what will very likely happen if and when a Repub occupies the White House and/or has majority control of Congress than base my vote on some imaginary and unsubstantiated threat to myself, my friends, my family, my country or my money like this made up "crisis!" regarding dark skinned people crossing the border.

[QUOTE=Canada;2586525]Yes there is evidence that their is criminal activity at the border. Sex trafficking is at all time high. Drugs crossing border at record levels. Border agents attacked. Hotels at the border full of Covid illegals that are going to fast food places and walking the streets spreading Covid. Texas and California Covid numbers increasing. 30% of illegals tested have Covid. They are travelling to other states on buses spreading it to other states. 2,000,000 illegals crossed the border under Biden. They are provided hotel, food, bus tickets. These are uneducated illegals that will mostly end up on welfare, sex workers or selling drugs on the streets. Money that is being spent on illegals could be used to help the American poor and the homeless but Biden and the democrats don't care about these people.[/QUOTE]You titled your post "[B]Evidence[/B]" and then provided zero evidence of anything you wrote in the post.

Well, I certainly can't prove my point any better than you already have. So I'll cut this one short right here👌.
Thanks.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2586661]In this case, I can see that illegals crossing the border really, really bugs you. But until you can show me that what is happening at the border is creating a "crisis" in the USA economy or producing grave damage to national security I am not going to share your hand-wringing, teeth gnashing worry about it. I realize it is "something" to pay attention to. But it can and should go way down the list of things for me to, say, base a precious vote on.[/QUOTE]OK, here is the latest Covid-19 ICE Detanee Statistics dated July 23, 2021. Keep in mind this report documents only those illegal immigrants held in detention. The total number of Covid positive illegals that have entered the USA is much higher and unknown which should concern you and any other clear thinking American citizen.

[URL]https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2021/07/28/illegal-aliens-in-ice-facilities-have-approx-29-times-the-covid-19-active-infection-rate-as-the-us-population-illegals-likely-seeding-new-covid-spread/[/URL]

Meanwhile vaccinated US citizens like myself must present a negative Covid 19 PCR test taken within 72 hours of an airplane departure from a foreign country like Brazil or Costa Rica in order to reenter the USA.

Here is another link: [URL]https://archive.is/xlCAl[/URL].

So the bottom line is: "The active Covid-19 infection rate at ICE facilities is 5%, based on their statistics. Much of this is currently concentrated in Texas facilities.

Based on the information available from the CDC and US Census, we estimate the active Covid-19 infection rate nationwide as 0.17%.

So, the illegal aliens within the ICE facilities have approximately 29 times the rate as the country as a whole.

This provides support to the probability that illegal migrants are seeding Covid-19 throughout the country, which is common sense. ICE facility workers could spread it from the facilities back to the general population, and the majority of illegal migrants are not even within facilities, but are at large, seeded amongst the general population.

The rise in Covid-19 throughout the United States followed Biden's border surge. While this could still be a spurious correlation, that is impossible to believe. Covid-19 was dying down within the United States, and the new variant was imported from somewhere. Of course, a Nigerian recently imported monkey pox through air travel, apparently after returning home."

Courts have just over turned previous ruling and now dude's taxes will be made available.

So what will they show? Agent Orange as a dumb businessman? Smart business man? Grifter? Trickster?

Place your bets!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2586663]You titled your post "[B]Evidence[/B]" and then provided zero evidence of anything you wrote in the post.

Well, I certainly can't prove my point any better than you already have. So I'll cut this one short right here👌.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Texas Republican and democrat senators are on the news every day with evidence. They have taken it to Biden several times but he like you ignores it.

Crime and murders are on the news every day. Local news and Fox. CA ex senators mugged. Shootings in DC and Seattle. Several democrat cities trying to hire hundreds of police officers to combat all the crime.

Contact the Chicago police if you don't believe murders are increasing in Chicago.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2586719]Courts have just over turned previous ruling and now dude's taxes will be made available.

So what will they show? Agent Orange as a dumb businessman? Smart business man? Grifter? Trickster?

Place your bets![/QUOTE]lol. If his tax returns showed he was a smart or relatively honest businessman he would have released them 5 years ago with exerpts from them read daily and nightly ever since on FUX News Channel.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2586316]You made a false statement. I destroyed it point-by-point. You persisted in your false statement. I destroyed your false statement a second time.

But, instead of taking the adult approach and refuting what I said point-by-point, you respond with third-grade name calling. But that's what you fascists do. You spout off and repeat the party line and then, when you get called out, you just repeat the same hogwash.[/QUOTE]It's all that many here are capable of.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2586743]lol. If his tax returns showed he was a smart or relatively honest businessman he would have released them 5 years ago with exerpts from them read daily and nightly ever since on FUX News Channel.[/QUOTE]What is the big deal? Government has them every year when he files his taxes. IRS sees them every year. If their was something illegal he would have been audited. This will only give CNN a few months of keeping Trump in the news.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2586661]Natty, again, you have joined the "What links? What proof? We don't need any stinking proof! We just need to say it!" crowd here who has no proof or evidence to support your position.

In this case, I can see that illegals crossing the border really, really bugs you. But until you can show me that what is happening at the border is creating a "crisis" in the USA economy or producing grave damage to national security I am not going to share your hand-wringing, teeth gnashing worry about it. I realize it is "something" to pay attention to. But it can and should go way down the list of things for me to, say, base a precious vote on.

For example, I would much rather vote against the next Great Repub Crash, Recession and "Once in 100 Years Disaster!", a REAL threat to the economy and national security, which all historical evidence clearly shows is what will very likely happen if and when a Repub occupies the White House and/or has majority control of Congress than base my vote on some imaginary and unsubstantiated threat to myself, my friends, my family, my country or my money like this made up "crisis!" regarding dark skinned people crossing the border.[/QUOTE]Most Americans think their is a crises at the border. No other country allows 2,000,000 illegals to come in their country. Especially with a pandemic. Please explain the benefits of letting 2,000,000 illegals into our country. What is the big benefit for USA citizens who live here and pay taxes?

By year end 4,000,000 illegals will be in our country and after 4 years of Biden 16,000,000 or more illegals will be either taking jobs or be on government subsistence.

How does it benefit the poor? The homeless?

Will the socialists here explain this to me because I can't see how it helps the citizens, the poor or the economy.

Here's a quote from the link (originally from 'Time' magazine) that says it all: "Republicans might be embarrassed about January 6th. They may even be frustrated or angry that the riot occurred. But those feelings pale in comparison to their desire to defeat Democrats, and [B]they’re keenly aware that every second spent relitigating January 6th is a second spent highlighting the worst of their party and their movement[/B]. Of course they want to move on, quickly. Of course they're angry at any Republican who wants to investigate."

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/why-republicans-determined-distort-truth-210617113.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2586711]Here is another link: [URL]https://archive.is/xlCAl[/URL].

So the bottom line is: "The active Covid-19 infection rate at ICE facilities is 5%, based on their statistics. Much of this is currently concentrated in Texas facilities.

Based on the information available from the CDC and US Census, we estimate the active Covid-19 infection rate nationwide as 0.17%.

So, the illegal aliens within the ICE facilities have approximately 29 times the rate as the country as a whole.

This provides support to the probability that illegal migrants are seeding Covid-19 throughout the country, which is common sense. ICE facility workers could spread it from the facilities back to the general population, and the majority of illegal migrants are not even within facilities, but are at large, seeded amongst the general population.[/QUOTE]Wait. Who are in these ICE facilities? Children.

How can kids catch COVID? RethugliKKKants have long said that COVID doesn't infect kids. Even the orange god said it. [URL]https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/511408-trump-says-children-unlikely-to-catch-coronavirus-unconcerned-about-reports[/URL].

And his secretary of eduKKKation said it. [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/23/devoss-claim-that-children-are-stoppers-covid-19/[/URL].

Now, you're complaining about COVID infecting kids in ICE facilities? RethugliKKKans believe it can't happen.