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Let put things into perspective; it is all about the money; if you spend it, you are 99% likely to get a good session. 50 euro entitles you to the standard BJ and sex routine and if you want more, you need to open your wallet. Few are the girls who will spoil you for 50 euro and that's legit. It is not representative to judge a girl for a 50 euro session and say that she gave bad service. Don't expect the world for 50 euro. I had a bad experience with Bella, but that would not change even if I paid her 500 euro. You cannot buy superstar service with street hooker $$ so deal with it.
My sessions are a minimum of 1 HR and I can count on one hand the number of sessions over the last years in which I received bad service.
Girls that are 6/10 or 7/10 need to compensate for that with service to win repeat clients, but 8,9's and 10's got hand (meaning they have the leverage) and if you want Yra and her likes to fuck you sideways, pay up!
If you want a 50 euro star level fucking with shoving your tongue all the way in to play with a girl's tonsils and fucking like a rabbit till the last second on the clock clicks, take Martina or Daisy and if you are not a complete douche bag, you should be fine. Cheap stuff is at the all you can eat buffet in Frankfurt; you pay around 100 euro to enter and you can fuck all the women you want all you want, but if you visit an FKK, you cannot ***** if a girl doesn't eat your rectum tongue out and tits swinging for 50 euro.
Regulars that alternate between 30,60, and 90 minute sessions get different treatment. But, coming in and sitting down and expecting to talk for 20 minutes and than fuck for 30 and pay 50 euro, is exaggerated. Seriously, some of the ill mannered fat fuckers that go to an FKK should pay extra just for the privilege of the company of these girls.
To quote Mr. Nicholson to emphasize the girl's origin point: I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1717200] Also sessioned with Lucy who just came over from Sakura with a friend...[/QUOTE]Could you please describe Lucy? Long black hair? Maybe it was the girl at the bar I know from another club.
Also: Thank you, Yhoopeyk, for the very good reports.
BM
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Loved this
[QUOTE=Danny227;1717326]Let put things into perspective; it is all about the money; if you spend it, you are 99% likely to get a good session. 50 euro entitles you to the standard BJ and sex routine and if you want more, you need to open your wallet. Few are the girls who will spoil you for 50 euro and that's legit. It is not representative to judge a girl for a 50 euro session and say that she gave bad service. Don't expect the world for 50 euro. I had a bad experience with Bella, but that would not change even if I paid her 500 euro. You cannot buy superstar service with street hooker $$ so deal with it.
My sessions are a minimum of 1 HR and I can count on one hand the number of sessions over the last years in which I received bad service.
Girls that are 6/10 or 7/10 need to compensate for that with service to win repeat clients, but 8,9's and 10's got hand (meaning they have the leverage) and if you want Yra and her likes to fuck you sideways, pay up!
If you want a 50 euro star level fucking with shoving your tongue all the way in to play with a girl's tonsils and fucking like a rabbit till the last second on the clock clicks, take Martina or Daisy and if you are not a complete douche bag, you should be fine. Cheap stuff is at the all you can eat buffet in Frankfurt; you pay around 100 euro to enter and you can fuck all the women you want all you want, but if you visit an FKK, you cannot ***** if a girl doesn't eat your rectum tongue out and tits swinging for 50 euro.
Regulars that alternate between 30,60, and 90 minute sessions get different treatment. But, coming in and sitting down and expecting to talk for 20 minutes and than fuck for 30 and pay 50 euro, is exaggerated. Seriously, some of the ill mannered fat fuckers that go to an FKK should pay extra just for the privilege of the company of these girls.
To quote Mr. Nicholson to emphasize the girl's origin point: I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.[/QUOTE]If there were prizes for best post of the year (and hey there should be) this would get my vote. Genuinely laughed through most of it. I agree with it all. You pay your dollar and reap what you sew. Though just occasionally not. It wouldn't have mattered if I had disagreed with it all (which I don't) but the all time superlative was: "but if you visit an FKK, you cannot * if a girl doesn't eat your rectum tongue out and tits swinging for 50 euro". I am determined to go to a FKK club in the next three weeks have a few beers and ask a girl - "any chance of you eating my rectum tongue out, tits swinging for 50 euros?" I will post which side of my face gets slapped, and how I got on with my grovelling apology. But it will have been worth it I think.
The "fat fuckers" comment was also hilarious and true!
Great to see some genuine humour being injected into what can sometimes be a little mechanical posts "she's great / good service / bad food / public transport etc. " I'm all in favour of the tongue out, tit swinging rectum eaters. Now which club was that?
Well done on a brilliant post Danny. Really enjoyed it!
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1717326] It is not representative to judge a girl for a 50 euro session and say that she gave bad service.[/QUOTE]Of course you cannot expect super service just for 50 euro, but if the session was terribly bad you should tell her that the service was bad.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1717326]Let put things into perspective; it is all about the money; if you spend it, you are 99% likely to get a good session. 50 euro entitles you to the standard BJ and sex routine and if you want more, you need to pay up.
My sessions are a minimum of 1 HR and I can count on one hand the number of sessions over the last years in which I received bad service.
[/QUOTE]Especially with additional time wastage due to room waits girls are getting more and more concerned about wasting their time on a 50 Euro booking when they potentially could be on a longer booking making decent money. They have bills to pay also including the entrance fee.
Its difficult to promise an hour with a new girl, but usually I can tell after 5 or 10 minutes unless she is a time waster like Bella, where I cancelled after 15 minutes (so as not to waste any more of her time or mine). We probably had a 10 min wait for the room.
90% would be a little more realistic than 99% but I agree with the sentiment partially.
There are some dumb girls who don't really know how to work properly. Mia was critical of the laziness and lack of concentration of some girls.
On the other hand we do have plenty of girls doing their best to hook regular customers. Regular customers are essential to making good money as the percentage of tourists is only so high.
As I normally spend at least 100, I am finding girls are pretty happy with that. Its hard for me to measure how much weaker they would be if I only took 30 minutes.
However I know Cosmina and Agnes are examples of girls who will do less for 30 minutes according to them. With some girls the topic never came up but busy girls are choosing their customers (giving preference) for best long term earnings for sure. Non busy girls may have to take anything going.
I don't waste girls' time chatting for long in the lounge unless the girl herself is clearly in the mood for it.
I think the charge for a 30 min session is too low to keep all girls happy, however I don't see any approaching change to that. The consequence is the growth of upselling, charging for kissing, cutting session times short, etc.
These undesirable things will keep increasing, and service gap for 50 Euro and 100 will increase.
Hence if I got a fabulous GFE in 1 hour regularly from girls that others reported as weak in a 30 min session, I would not be too surprised.
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For the Sharks superstar and busiest girl at the moment, I'm sure she gives more than other girls even for only 30 mn and 50 €, just because, even not the prettiest compare to Aurelia, but so friendly angel, Sandra. De, same for Marina. Lat and not many GFE top performer like both in FKK.
No one at Oase except Ina. Lat left.
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These posts make me very sad. For fuck sakes, off course there will be some change in service if you become a regular (although sometimes it just means being taken for granted). But for occasional bookings service shouldn't depend on the amount of time you agree on beforehand. Not for any girl that is worth mentioning at least. Don't get me wrong, if the service is good it will take more than 30 minutes anyway, but it isn't something that is required upfront.
I guess this had to do with my post on Ira. She didn't even ask how long I wanted to stay and it didn't seem she wanted more than a 30 minute break from walking pointless circles with her friends. By the time I left at 3, I'm pretty sure I had been her only zimmer.
For what it's worth. There are plenty of girls that offer very good service for 30 minutes, or for an hour that is 75/80 euros and even 30 minutes that cost only 30 euros. Even in Hessen, as you indicated yourself.
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I don't slam other posters here in general, or hardly ever. But your comment is one of the more insensitive and negative comments around here that I have seen. First of all, Sandra is a very nice girl, highly popular, and many punters here like her, and she is extremely popular in the club as well. Secondly, your own comments show she provided most things one can look for in a measly 30 min session. DFK, BLS, deep throat, cock slapping, pounding, all in half HR.
And you admit you went over 30 min. And you did not tip her. And you think she is stupid to be disappointed? Frankly she could have dragged your ass to the front counter and demanded a hundred, well within her rights, because you went over 30 min.
That she remained friendly the whole night, and kissed you good night shows the class of this lady. Class which was sorely lacking in you.
[QUOTE=FrancisU;1716651]Continued from [POST=1714883]this post[/POST].
Thank you StarletVoyager.
I was sitting at the bar when I sensed the shadow of a girl sliding onto the bar stool next to me. She crossed her legs and said Hallo. I swung round and I saw an adorable girl who looked like a Pole to me. I was extremely disappointed when I learned her name after the usual greetings and introductions, as I was expecting a prettier face than the one that was generously smiling at me.
She struck up a general conversation during which she revealed much more information than I needed to know, especially for a first time encounter. Whether it was fake or genuine did not bother me as much as her inquisitive and almost intrusive questions. She speaks average English peppered with some German words.
In the room we started smooching with deep open mouth kissing, tongue wrestling, and some light lip biting on her. I talked her into some light fingering after she inspected my neatly clipped fingernails.
I started to realize that she is rather on the naughty edge of the spectrum and that's when I put her on her knees before me and she started pumping my already hard shaft. She did some deep throat during which she swallowed my cock as far as she could, but alas I could feel her incisors as well as her tongue ring. Cock-slapping on her tongue and her cheeks as well as BLS were also available. She drooled and winked while being throat.
Next I pounded her in missionary but for some reason it didn't feel good enough. I flipped her doggy and began to pound her nicely shaped and firm ass. She politely asked me to loosen my hold on her hips. It was when I pulled her hair and started spanking her that she began to talk real dirty to me. I couldn't bear it anymore and surrendered in an intense but short orgasm.
She cleaned me up and even while heading downstairs, she continued her series of probing questions, picking up exactly where she left off. I saw some disappointment in her eyes when I thanked her and handed her the 50 Euros note. Later I realized that because we exceeded the 30 minutes mark by few minutes she probably was expecting at least a tip. She did kiss me goodbye however, wished me a good stay and remained friendly and smiling throughout the night.
My experience with this girl is quite mixed. On one hand she did perform almost everything that I asked for but on the other hand everything seemed perfunctory, desultory and shallow. Although she tried hard to be nice, friendly and did her best to please me, it just didn't work as the whole experience lacked that fizz or effervescence that I usually aim for.
If you are looking for a decent lay with a friendly girl who likes to please and play * then I recommend her. Personally I did not and would not repeat as everything with her seemed fake and artificial. She lacks the illusion, depth and vitality that I seek.
Many more reviews to follow as time permits.[/QUOTE]
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Even she changed since end of January when I met Sandra. De for 1st time, she still stay very friendly and generous in room, that s why she is the superstar at Sharks and the busiest girl, she even goes with "monsters" who generally pay more than the club rate and less demanding in room.
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FrancisU's post was the first negative comment about Sandra I have read. It just goes to show that even the best girls, as Sandra certainly is, can't please everyone. He obviously has different tastes than I and probably everyone else who has had the pleasure of being with her do.
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No one at Oase except Ina. Lat left.[/QUOTE]Ina is long gone, and only a few weeks worked. I would be surprised if she returns to Oase. No point to write about her as though she was there.
Was one of the few girls happy to give everything for a 50 but its history.
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[QUOTE=BarryManila;1717425]Of course you cannot expect super service just for 50 euro, but if the session was terribly bad you should tell her that the service was bad.[/QUOTE]Bella was very surprised I wanted to leave after 15 minutes and did ask why. I simply said we were not suited and I was not having any fun. She clearly did not understand GFE, being relaxed and having a good time. She created tension by being difficult. Other girls who don't kiss can still be a lot better. Sascha was a previous good example of a non kisser who could still make a reasonable session on occasion however I still got bored with her style.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1717651]FrancisU's post was the first negative comment about Sandra I have read. It just goes to show that even the best girls, as Sandra certainly is, can't please everyone. He obviously has different tastes than I and probably everyone else who has had the pleasure of being with her do.[/QUOTE]He doesn't seem to say she was not friendly or not generous for sex, but seems to think she was acting a little when speaking.
Even still a friendly Angel, true she is not so natural after being fucked by so many "guests" as she says than when she began, she was not so busy in January and February, she became the Sharks superstar busiest girl working more than 12 h / day.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1717662]Ina is long gone, and only a few weeks worked. I would be surprised if she returns to Oase. No point to write about her as though she was there.
Was one of the few girls happy to give everything for a 50 but its history.[/QUOTE]I meant can have good room for only 30 mn 50 € at Sharks with Sandra or at World with some pretty girls and it could also happened in November at Oase with one.
Even if I prefer 1 h to have time to foreplay with friendly GFE attractive girls like Sandra or Agnes or Marina.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1717506]Especially with additional time wastage due to room waits girls are getting more and more concerned about wasting their time on a 50 Euro booking when they potentially could be on a longer booking making decent money. They have bills to pay also including the entrance fee.
Its difficult to promise an hour with a new girl, but usually I can tell after 5 or 10 minutes unless she is a time waster like Bella, where I cancelled after 15 minutes (so as not to waste any more of her time or mine). We probably had a 10 min wait for the room.
90% would be a little more realistic than 99% but I agree with the sentiment partially.
There are some dumb girls who don't really know how to work properly. Mia was critical of the laziness and lack of concentration of some girls.
On the other hand we do have plenty of girls doing their best to hook regular customers. Regular customers are essential to making good money as the percentage of tourists is only so high.
As I normally spend at least 100, I am finding girls are pretty happy with that. Its hard for me to measure how much weaker they would be if I only took 30 minutes.
However I know Cosmina and Agnes are examples of girls who will do less for 30 minutes according to them. With some girls the topic never came up but busy girls are choosing their customers (giving preference) for best long term earnings for sure. Non busy girls may have to take anything going.
I don't waste girls' time chatting for long in the lounge unless the girl herself is clearly in the mood for it.
I think the charge for a 30 min session is too low to keep all girls happy, however I don't see any approaching change to that. The consequence is the growth of upselling, charging for kissing, cutting session times short, etc.
These undesirable things will keep increasing, and service gap for 50 Euro and 100 will increase.
Hence if I got a fabulous GFE in 1 hour regularly from girls that others reported as weak in a 30 min session, I would not be too surprised.[/QUOTE]I agree with you almost entirely and there is a clear trend that girls are fed up with giving their all in a 30 min session for 50 however, from what I have recently heard, not so much in Sharks. Funny that you would mention Cosmina who I met last year when I had the pleasure and luck to be in Frankfurt and the surrounding area. Cosmina was a delight at the time and I couldn't have asked for better sex for 50 so I felt that I had to tip her and I did. But neither did she try to upsell nor asked for the tip. If it wasn't for the teeth issue she would be in my Top10 of all the time as she had everything I want. Maybe that has changed by now?
Friend just got back from an extended FKK trip to Oase, Sharks and some other places. Pointed out that in most places girls were trying to upsell but not in Sharks. Generally he had nothing but praise for Sharks and its girls but of course he mentioned the bespoken issue that girls are often not happy with what they earn compared to what they have to do for it.
So I find that worrysome even if it means that it will eventually drive girls away from Germany to Austria (hence directly into my arms) or to Switzerland where they can make good money too with lower expectations of the clientele.
I find and observed that the upselling has become an issue in Austria as well by now and it has mostly been introduced by girls who worked in Germany before.