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There are lot of other bars on Soi 6 (excluding nightwish bars) which provide the same old services.
Every girl will go upstairs and now standard rate is 1000-1500 Baht and 400 for the room.
I only go to Non- Nightwish bars and never sit alone, mamasan makes sure that girl come and sits with me.
Most of the bars don't even push for tequila racks for girls.
My favourite bars are -.
Boofies.
Cooters.
Wicked - 2-3 good looking girls.
VIP. New bar.
Panda. New bar.
Helicopter.
I had 2 street vendors I wanted to see this trip. Puy roti lady in Silom and Chicken Mortar in Pattaya. There's actually a YouTube video with the 2 of them together. Google says Chicken Mortar open from 11 am to 10 pm daily. Went by Chicken Mortar this week at 5 pm and photo shows what I saw.
Anyone know if Chicken Mortar only works certain days of the week or only for lunch? Thepprasit is not really an area I go to.
Anyone know any other pretty or revealing street vendors in Pattaya?
Had a great tour for my 4 nights!
Honorable mention to club Myst, always left there with a young vibrant cutie back to my abode (1. 5 to 2 k) avg 2 shots!
Beer town, bar 24, bar fined a sweetheart with curves like I've not seen on Thai women. Got her line contact. Definitely a must do for GFE!
Soi 6, Avarice bar. Can't go round, just befriend mamasan and she'll direct top talent your way.
Don't forget to get your daily foot and body massage between mongering sessions fellas!
Had a great tour for my 4 nights!
Honorable mention to club Myst, always left there with a young vibrant cutie back to my abode (1. 5 to 2 k) avg 2 shots!
Beer town, bar 24, bar fined a sweetheart with curves like I've not seen on Thai women. Got her line contact. Definitely a must do for GFE!
Soi 6, Avarice bar. Can't go round, just befriend mamasan and she'll direct top talent your way.
Don't forget to get your daily foot and body massage between mongering sessions fellas!
I've read South America (Brazil / Colombia) have the most attractive women and I tend to prefer them but when you consider a 2 week stay in Thailand, it seems when you exclude flight costs, the housing, girls, and food are cheaper plus you get security and English unlike in SA.
Are there more options of women here or Bangkok compared to Brazil? Wondering if there are high end places or sites where you can find high tier women, possibly willing to do BBFS? There was a post saying Pattaya blows everything else away, and if I can find a fair amount of women who look just as good or better than the girl in the black and white striped skirt in this video, I can see why I should think of here:
[URL]https://youtu.be/_AHtmHMHO3w?t=10[/URL]
Anyone have experience with non Thai girls like Russian / Ukranian that were at least GFE, if not more?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2895731]So why are there loads of them forced to go and work in other bars if it's so easy for all of them?[/QUOTE]If a bargirl can't meet her drink quota, she may have to change bars. As with any bar, the top ladies get most of the drinks.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2895427]Actually, the transition from the girls providing good / great value sexually to them hustling customers for Lady Drinks instead because the bar owners and management wanted it that way and with increased pressure and higher LD commissions implemented to make it so is exactly what happened in Angeles City in the Philippines.
Only the transition in Angeles City did not begin a few years ago and it wasn't at the behest of Korean bar owners.
It happened about 30 years ago and at the behest of Western bar owners.
Yep, they formed a "consortium" or group of Western bar owners from the bars on Field Avenue back then too and their meetings were all about making sure everyone was on the same sheet of music about raking in as much money on Lady Drink sales from the girls and good STs or LTs regarding sex be damned. They didn't give a shit about that anymore.
[/QUOTE]I've been to Angeles City 5 or 6 times. Most recently in 2017. I have never slept alone. However, I was only on Perimeter Road.
Your calculation is incorrect. Yes, the bar owners earn more money with LD than with boum boum, but then there are far fewer customers and the profit is smaller. Most of the bars on Soi 6 are empty. Maybe 1 or 2 customers sitting alone at the table. And the few Koreans were there 10 or 15 years ago. I'll stick with it. A few years ago the girls and the bar owners earned a lot more than they do today.
The problem is that all the western bar owners and bar managers have absolutely no idea about economics. Instead of filling the bar with boum boum and selling a lot of drinks, they now sell overpriced sugar water with no boum boum and think they'll be millionaires after a year.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2895775]I never noticed any racism towards me as a white person.
Why would you think this?[/QUOTE]Unless you speak Thai, you probably wouldn't realise. They aren't going to be nasty to our faces because we are their cash cows.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2895820]I had 2 street vendors I wanted to see this trip. Puy roti lady in Silom [/QUOTE]I'd marry Puy if she wanted a fat ol' farang. Good heart, hard worker, not bad to look at.
Lately when I see Pattaya videos it looks like most of the girls in front of the bars have put on at least ten to twenty pounds since I was last there. Maybe those bars should put exercise bikes out front? LOL.
Very much looking forward to my first trip to Thailand this April and spending most of my time in Pattaya. After reading the forums, it seems that it would be best to avoid being there during Songkran (April 11th to April 19th). If you had to choose, would you go the 2 weeks prior to Songkran or the 2 weeks after? Hoping to pick a time that the most number of ladies are available and looking to do business. Will be submitting a travel report at the end of it all.
[QUOTE=MGavin;2895815]There are lot of other bars on Soi 6 (excluding nightwish bars) which provide the same old services.
Every girl will go upstairs and now standard rate is 1000-1500 Baht and 400 for the room.
I only go to Non- Nightwish bars and never sit alone, mamasan makes sure that girl come and sits with me.
Most of the bars don't even push for tequila racks for girls.
My favourite bars are -.
Boofies.
Cooters.
Wicked - 2-3 good looking girls.
VIP. New bar.
Panda. New bar.
Helicopter.[/QUOTE]I Googled Nightwish to see what it meant. These are bars owned by the same company.
How do I identify them before wasting time walking in? Are Nightwish bars the ones that just try to milk drinks from you?
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2895886]I'd marry Puy if she wanted a fat ol' farang. Good heart, hard worker, not bad to look at.[/QUOTE]Exact reason millions of guys are in trouble today. Knowing someone from their job on an occasional basis and living with someone on a forever basis are two different things.
[QUOTE=KlepsKid;2895893]Very much looking forward to my first trip to Thailand this April and spending most of my time in Pattaya. After reading the forums, it seems that it would be best to avoid being there during Songkran (April 11th to April 19th). If you had to choose, would you go the 2 weeks prior to Songkran or the 2 weeks after? Hoping to pick a time that the most number of ladies are available and looking to do business. Will be submitting a travel report at the end of it all.[/QUOTE]It's all common sense. Any girl that is somewhat decent looking or hot, knows they are decent looking or hot. These girls will milk you at any bar or venue (or in general, all of life) where drinks are required for them to even look at you. So it's not limited to the just NightWish bars. Take a step into the first few bars on the the right like Omega, Mods, and Love Missile coming from 2nd, it's the same routine with the better looking chicas. Drinks = Girls' Salaries is all you need to know on how they get paid from the bar management. Over 2 months in Pattaya and zero Soi 6 girls that I wanted to bang (keep in mind my selection is pickier than most) accepted my offer of 1500+1 lady drink+ room fee. Yep, count them zero, even though I only made 6 or so attempts in those 2 months. They all wanted 2000 and a couple even quoted 2500- 3000 + 1 drink + room fee. Ridiculous because I even flexed my biceps to try to get a discount.
The bigger question is "do YOU have the eye" for the better looking girls or only think the 1000 girls more than acceptable in terms of looks. So if anybody has found a decent looking girl on Soi 6 for 1000-1200, please post a pic of your so called discounted beauty with which bar she is working. They all have Facebook pages, so don't be shy. But once again, any good looking girls with a hot bod anywhere in the world pretty much know what's up. I already posted previously to why all of this price hike, even with links to their YouTube. I repeat once more. COVID opened up the online game for so many girls to the point they don't even need to put up with the clientele that had to, before it all went down. But of course the smarter guys will adapt and venture into a new untouched world for the seasoned monger. I make it a pact in 2024 to get more girls from Thai only venues. I had some previous success awhile back at at Full House Club in BKK and will frequent places like that more than the touristy crap like Nana and Cowboy. I am bold like that and don't give a fudugggk about SumChais looking at me oddlyi. Go straight into hell blazing with my wings all spread and not even know the language they speak. Strangely enough, most oft them try to buy me drinks, knowing I am not Thai, but brave as heck to go to all Thai spot. Maybe they think I am just crazy.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/FullHouseClub2022/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MadDin19;2895878]I've been to Angeles City 5 or 6 times. Most recently in 2017. I have never slept alone. However, I was only on Perimeter Road.
Your calculation is incorrect. Yes, the bar owners earn more money with LD than with boum boum, but then there are far fewer customers and the profit is smaller. Most of the bars on Soi 6 are empty. Maybe 1 or 2 customers sitting alone at the table. And the few Koreans were there 10 or 15 years ago. I'll stick with it. A few years ago the girls and the bar owners earned a lot more than they do today.
The problem is that all the western bar owners and bar managers have absolutely no idea about economics. Instead of filling the bar with boum boum and selling a lot of drinks, they now sell overpriced sugar water with no boum boum and think they'll be millionaires after a year.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I thought my recollection, calculation and conclusion from 25-30 years ago regarding the Western bar owners in Angeles City was essentially the same as yours today as stated in this post. Or maybe not. Hey, it's all good.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2895731]So why are there loads of them forced to go and work in other bars if it's so easy for all of them?[/QUOTE]Explorer thinks all 69 in a bar make money.
True breakdown.
Soi 6 but pretty much applies to Anywhere.
15% make Superstar money.
15% make No money at all.
In between are the rest.