Crazy Horse. Best to avoid.
I've been to Crazy Horse two times before. Both times I told myself I would never visit again. Unfortunately it's one of the few places left where girls are naked. So I went again when friends were visiting. And again it was a disaster.
1st visit, few years back (the place had just newly opened): Took a girl back home. She was a complete deadfish and basically refused the perform even the basics. At some point, she just left. Laughed at me when I told her I would go back to the bar and complain. She knew no one would care. I went back, explained the situation to the mamasan (one of those nasty, old, fat, poorly dressed Isan dragons that you normally see with a poor farang bloke), just to find myself being laughed at.
2nd visit, a year ago: Was sitting with a girl I wanted to talk to. Another girl comes to push me to buying my girl a drink. Told her to please let me have a conversation with my girl, and she gets angry.
3rd visit, few days ago: Asked to sit with two girls from the stage. After they're done dancing they join us. Waitress pushes us to buy them ladydrinks, pointing at the 320 Baht double lady drink. It politely tell her in Thai that we would like to have a brief chat with them first. Why would I invest in ladydrinks before knowing whether they are actually worth pursuing, or even go with a customer at all (and not just are stupid coyotes). Waitress pulls them away from us immediately. You no buy drink, you no lady. " One of the girls couldn't care less. Mai pen rai Mae" she says on Thai, indicating that she didn't want to sit with us anyways. She was a pretty one, perfect body, tall, light skin, very sexy. She knows she can better milk a Japanese guy.
My friends and I decide to finish our beers and then leave. While we are sitting there drinking and chatting, a girls hits my legs pretty hard. She's one of the older, ugly girls on stage. Again, one of those nasty Isan dragons you normally see barking at her poor farang husband. I was sitting with my legs crossed, one foot pointing at the stage. She is furious; insists I have to sit without my legs crossed. Don't get me wrong, I know Thai culture, I have lived here many years, I speak, read, and write the language. I know pointing at someone or something using your feet is an insult. But that refers to intentionally pointing. Sitting with your legs crossed isn't a problem, and isn't perceived as an insult by Thais. I actually double-checked with some of my Thai friends later. That girls was just looking for a fight.
When the bill came, they pulled the usual coin-scam. My friend, who's never been here, just took the whole change. The waitress wouldn't leave until she got a 20 Baht note as tip.
I can only suggest to avoid that place.
Places for finding CIS talent in Bkk.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2156256]Hi Guys,
Can anyone share some advice on where to find CIS / Arab girls in BKK? Living in Sydney, I'm tired of Thai, Chinese girls.
Cheers,
BR.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for decent quality CIS stuff, head to Shock 39 disco. It is a speciality joint when it comes to CIS (read Uzbek) talent. Also, you can find some Ukrainians there. I've mentioned this place in my previous posts and have also written a detailed FR. Expect the rates to be anywhere between 5-7k THB LT. Of course, YMMV, depending upon your negotiation skills, timing etc. The scene from Rajah Hotel has now shifted to Royal Garden Hotel, a couple of hundred metres ahead of the Grace Hotel, away from Nana Plaza. You can find some ok CIS and a few Russians here also. When I went, there were around 15-20 WGs there, but, the quality was not that great. Worth a visit, though, as you never know what you might find. Cheers and have a nice trip!
First time report from Bangkok. Other first-timers please read
Before I say anything else: all the bars in Nana plaza, soi cowboy, Patpong (and even Patong, Phuket) are a waste of time. We should stop considering them mongering destinations, but rather tourist traps targeting those only looking to monger once in their lives. The base rate for one-shot sex, barfine, room fee, mandatory drinks, and lady drinks add up to us prices. The talent level can be had for a fraction across the street, sometimes comically so (as in Nana, literally 15 feet away). There may be exceptions, and I realize my experience is limited, but there's a reason I didn't get a girl in ANY of them during a full week of opportunity.
Apologies for the rant, now on to the actual (favorable!) report.
This is for the week starting March 1, so please forgive the delay. I'll post a follow-up report on the Phuket thread, and also in the Japan forum for Tokyo (Yoshiwara) and Osaka (Tobita Sinchi), also all first-time reports.
March 1 turned out to be a Buddhist holiday and all the bars were shut down. I stayed at a hotel near Nana and found a lovely FL nearby called Jam (Thai names, haha) She was a fresh-faced college-girlfriend-type with C +/ D cups so firm I thought they were fake until I finally felt them up. One of the best pairs I've ever encountered. Besides having a bit of a belly, which she felt more self-conscious about than any WG I've ever met, she was a stunning delight. Pretty face, tight body everywhere else, smooth skin. I brought her to my room and we started in the shower together. She sang like an angel (an aspiring popstar) both in the room and on youtube, and hung around for almost two hours of great GFE action. It started with a tit-fuck to a COT, then continued quickly to covered action in all positions. She didn't zone out at any point, was refreshingly unjaded, and only cost 15 K bhat. I happily gave her 20 k, which she responded to with a bow and a Khap Khub Kaa, and we parted ways both satisfied. I looked for her again for the next two nights, but she was gone. A rare find.
After wasting two nights trolling the bars of Nana and Cowboy and Khaosan Road to walk away empty handed (I literally couldn't find talent to justify the cost), I looked into massage parlors. Phrom Phong was great in that regard, with lots of lineups to check out in front of each establishment. The prevailing talent level was low here as well, but eventually I found another diamond in the rough at little-discussed 'Sweet Mango' (not the more popular Mango Massage) right near Cherry's Massage. The girl's name was Amy, a girl mom from the countryside and another sweetheart. I paid 34 K baht upfront for 90 minutes that didn't disappoint. It was technically a soapy massage so we began with a shower again, and she did provide a decent massage between our two bouts of action. Both unfolded similarly to my previous encounter, as it was as easy to develop GFE-rapport here as well. In fact, I believe that's one of the best strengths of the Thai mongering scene. Girls with little hangups about sex that are sweet and eager to please. But we all know that.
It's a shame that the overall talent level is so unremarkable, since the opportunity is everywhere and the city is set up like a mongering paradise. Even Thermae didn't disappoint, stocked with (relatively young) girls from wall to wall, with far better lighting than expected. No stunners unfortunately, at least during my brief sortie (didn't get anything).
Continued in the Phuket thread.
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So Baccara is now members only?
Saturday night was very busy at Baccara and noticed that they too have started members only BS. Not sure it is only on weekends or not. Can someone please confirm and also let me know if this is same in Baccara at Pattaya?
They were also guiding everyone to buy drinks before going in.
Observations during 2018 trip.
Had couple of days in Bangkok and managed to sample few massage shops, soi cow boy bars, WG on Sukhumvit Road. The freelancers qty is down. Ig time specially near grace hotel. Most nights I could not find anyone to my taste. Friday night had few in nana area, Saturday was heavier in qty but bery low on looks. May be about 100-150 girls around 9. 30 Beer Garden is totally hopeless now. Less than 10 girls duringvthe noon and afternoon, all of them fuglies. Didn't even feel like talking to anyone of them.
Massage shops seemed to be doing better business this year but quality was still very poor as. Ompated to few years ago. No chance of finding a cutie one can spend lot of time with. Massage shops on suk 23 had 1-2 girls that I ckukd do but wanted 2000 bahts. Freelancers were not into it, a sharp contrast from the past.
I think for future trips I will have to raise the budget, get hotel calls from massage shops and reduce number of shots. I try to score 3/4 shots everyday which is now looking like waste of money and energy so will restrict myself to 2 per day. Will also plan outdoor sightseeing after two days of mongering to recharge batteries. Will also patronize some high end massage shops for eye candy and build a list of contacts from Thai friendly and similar online options.
Best of mongering days are certainly gone for 4/5 years now but fun can be have had provided one plans in advance and spends time in creating contacts.
