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[QUOTE=Starlord1;2216717]Is the Divine casa in a safe place?[/QUOTE]It was safe enough a few years ago that I walked around in the daytime carrying a printed copy of the casa map and nothing bad happened. But times change. I am exploring the apartments in Laureles this trip. I can tell you that if it was in Laureles it would be safe but they would be charging 120 k an hour instead of 80 k an hour.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2216797]Sooooo funny story I met this blonde chick in there. Girls everywhere all in tight skirts and buns and boobs poking out. They consistently do laps and flirt. If you look this place up on google maps you will see that the glass front is a smoker's area. Girls are constantly in and out of that spot so prime real estate is right by the in and out of that area. ....I'm going to offer her the 200 k again as a joke and see if she bites. Nice to know now they all wanted that price. I thought she was trying to gringo price me but I wound up getting it at regular price haha same chicks in there wanting 200 in that location are probably getting a 150 to 200 COP at massage parlors and strip clubs during different times.[/QUOTE]Nice report! Thanks for sharing!
Were you able to get any girls form Gusto to go with you for 200 K your second trip there?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2216907]Were you able to get any girls form Gusto to go with you for 200 K your second trip there?[/QUOTE]I doubt that he will Unc, unless he followed that same protocol of getting her number and contacting her another day. As YK said, $200 is the Gusto first-timer foreigner price which would be the standard for anyone walking inside the place. Even a chick that you could fuck in a downtown casa for 35K all day every day is going to say $200 when she steps into Gusto. I have said time and time again: Same girl, Different venue, Different price. Once Fun Luvr talked to her away from Gusto's the price self-adjusted to something that would be considered more fair. It went to what many guys report paying for outcall freelancers that they find on facebook or websites, which the girl then became.
Just like clothes. If you go to the Ralph Lauren retail store at the mall you are charged a high ass price for a shirt. You can go find the same exact shirt at the Ralph Lauren outlet store for way cheaper. Don't believe the shit about them saying it is inferior or was a fuckup. The moment that you see 20 of the same shirt that are fuck ups in 100 different stores you know the manufacturer would have been fired a long time ago. All it is is price discrimination; charging different prices for the same thing in different places.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2216923]All it is is price discrimination; charging different prices for the same thing in different places.[/QUOTE]Tuesdays and Wednesdays are discount days at the short-term hotels and escort sites like La Celestina.
I doubt the Gusto's chica would meet anyone for 200 k on a Friday or Saturday night after 23:00. The Gusto's chica might meet a guy on a Tuesday for 200 k because her opportunity cost is lower. If her probability of having a guy take her out of Gustos on a Tuesday for $200 is less than 33% she should take the freelance job.
Well Uncle these guys are spot on. I went in there on Friday but there were so many people guys and girls that I really didn't know who was the pro vs regular girl with her brother there. I spent a lot of time just people watching. Girls would walk up to me and flirt but none mentioned sex! They just would say Hi and act normal. I like women that are blunt. I feared asking a regular girl if she was a pro. I messaged a chica from prepagos before I went out. She responded that she was at one the clubs right down the street. I left to go meet her. She was where my dart landed that night so I never got a chance to get another price quote in Gustos. Now I'm very curious. I'm going over Halloween. I wonder how that will affect prices??
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2217054]Tuesdays and Wednesdays are discount days at the short-term hotels and escort sites like La Celestina.
I doubt the Gusto's chica would meet anyone for 200 k on a Friday or Saturday night after 23:00. The Gusto's chica might meet a guy on a Tuesday for 200 k because her opportunity cost is lower. If her probability of having a guy take her out of Gustos on a Tuesday for $200 is less than 33% she should take the freelance job.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, most Paisas don't think like that. If she has it in her mind that she is going to get $200 at Gusto, chances are she'll stick to that price even if there's 30 girls and only 1 guy.
However, the second she hits the street alone, now she's looking for taxi money and it's a buyer's market. Closing time is when everything gets moved to the discount rack.
Mr Ent and Bigboss are spot on! Prices is based on situation and location. The clothing store analogy is very accurate. It will be cheap in the outlets just because it's there. Same product in the mall cost more. My advice is if your in a place where the prices are high, she's not leaving with you and missing the guy that's going to pay her 5 x as much unless she's in desperate mode. End of night type situation. But tomorrow in the massage parlor or on millereroticos she goes back to her outlet prices. Just get her number and hit her up the next day. Same girl 13 hours later is now 50% off hahaha.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2216761]Really? Girls approach you all the time coming and going from class? Interesting. I would love to see how that works.[/QUOTE]There appears to be some confusion on your part. In my original post about Divini Women, I said:
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2216028]A FRIEND of mine, an American expat, recently moved to Medellin and is enjoying the mongering scene.
About Divini Women, MY FRIEND said:
"There is a college two blocks up the road, that's where most of the girls come from, I get approach all the time by nice girls that are coming and going from class."[/QUOTE]Not trying to troll or insult you, just want to clear up the confusion that seems to exist about my original post. Personally, I haven't been in Medellin since October 2015, and my experience in that city was the first trip report that I contributed to ISG.
To everyone else in this forum who expressed thanks about Divini Women, you're welcome. My friend is balls deep in the Medellin scene and I'll pass along new information whenever he provides it.
I went to this apartment yesterday. It is near the corner of Avenida Nutibara and Calle 44. The bed and bathroom were excellent.
My session was with a 18-year Venezuelian named Sara. Her oral was outstanding but she had more limits compared with the agency and Tinder chicas. She performed a nice massage to end the session.
Cost was 120,000 pesos plus 50 thousand pesos for natural oral. They ask for 240,000 pesos for out call including taxi.
A decent place if you do not need to see a lineup and can choose from pictures.
[URL]http://www.tentacionespaisas.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/laureles-estadio/sara-hermosa-muy-atrevida-te-hago-lo-que-tu-quieras-visitarme-id-rw35g[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2217054]Tuesdays and Wednesdays are discount days at the short-term hotels and escort sites like La Celestina.
I doubt the Gusto's chica would meet anyone for 200 k on a Friday or Saturday night after 23:00. The Gusto's chica might meet a guy on a Tuesday for 200 k because her opportunity cost is lower. If her probability of having a guy take her out of Gustos on a Tuesday for $200 is less than 33% she should take the freelance job.[/QUOTE]This is very true. Prices on Wednesday is a big difference than prices on Friday or Saturday night.
[QUOTE=Starlord1;2216717]Is the Divine casa in a safe place?[/QUOTE]It's been over a year since I was in that barrio. It is about 4-5 blocks East of Parque Bolivar. Their (Divine) hours are 12-7 M-Sat and 12-4 Sun and holidays. You shouldn't have any particular problems during those hours.
But there is a caveat. Have you read the forum extensively? Are you planning on wearing shorts, designer shades, gold chains, pulling out your I-phone X every 30 seconds? Because if you do things like that you might.
Just as well carry a billboard sign saying "Hey Medellin, I'm a gringo, come and get me" and they will. But, if you dress casual like Colombians, keep your phone in your pocket or judiciously pick your places to pull it out.
Keep your money in a money-belt or a hidden pocket and pay attention to what's around you. I don't imagine you would have the slightest problem.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2216797] Due to my lack of Spanish, I'm not in the mood for a turn down so I play it cool and stand where I can be seen and eye fish. Here comes the blonde. Could easily pass for white a white 26 year old from Wisconsin. But had hips like an ATL stripper. She was very tall probably due to her high heels and had an rump like a horse. She had a slightly chubby face but not fat or out of shape. Just naturally built like a stallion. Of course I was traveling to MDE alone. Women seem to hone in on the loan wolf in my opinion. So all my vacays I try to travel alone or spread out from my friends in the same room.[/QUOTE]What are your thoughts on Gustos as a solo American? I'll be there in a few weeks and want to see all MDE has to offer but am kinda hesitant to hit the clubs alone.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2217075]...They just would say Hi and act normal...[/QUOTE]Based on over 12 years going to Colombia and marriage to a Colombiana (now divorced), 99% of the time, if a girl in a place like Gustos walks by and says "Hi," she is a prepago. A regular girl would have no reason to say Hi to you, no matter how good you look. That is not their culture.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore;2217219]What are your thoughts on Gustos as a solo American? I'll be there in a few weeks and want to see all MDE has to offer but am kinda hesitant to hit the clubs alone.[/QUOTE]Why hesitant to hit Gusto alone? I can understand being hesitant to hit La Copa del Rey (an El Centro bar) alone, but Gusto is gringo ground zero. There will probably be other gringos who are there alone. Certainly there will be working girls there who will be happy to introduce themselves. As ColombiaLover said, if the come up and talk to you, or make heavy eye contact and smile, they're in the game and for $200, sometimes less, they'll make you happy.
Then again, why go there at all? A walk around Parque Lleras and you'll find dozens of other clubs and chances are good you'll find a few working girls in most, or you'll be able to see them working their way up and down the streets. You'll also find that their prices will be $100 or less. $67 and $50 are possible. That's roughly 300, 200 and 150 k in local currency vs. 600 k at Gusto.
Of course, if you want to see everything MDE has to offer, you'll need to walk by La Copa Del Rey and El Rey de Copas and about 40 other bars in El Centro. You'll find working girls in almost every one and their prices run from 30 k to 100 k. Most won't be dressed as nice as the girls in Gusto, but plenty look just as good. And you can find them at 2 pm instead of 11 pm.
However, wandering around El Centro alone can be intimidating. Especially if the toothless one legged hooker comes hopping up to you.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2217140]It's been over a year since I was in that barrio. It is about 4-5 blocks East of Parque Bolivar. Their (Divine) hours are 12-7 M-Sat and 12-4 Sun and holidays. You shouldn't have any particular problems during those hours.
But there is a caveat. Have you read the forum extensively? Are you planning on wearing shorts, designer shades, gold chains, pulling out your I-phone X every 30 seconds? Because if you do things like that you might.
Just as well carry a billboard sign saying "Hey Medellin, I'm a gringo, come and get me" and they will. But, if you dress casual like Colombians, keep your phone in your pocket or judiciously pick your places to pull it out.
Keep your money in a money-belt or a hidden pocket and pay attention to what's around you. I don't imagine you would have the slightest problem.[/QUOTE]Nah I will be wearing dark sweats and a t-shirt. And I will tell my boy to leave the shorts at home. I've been to mde twice but haven't venture out to casas. Thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2217075]Well Uncle these guys are spot on. I went in there on Friday but there were so many people guys and girls that I really didn't know who was the pro vs regular girl with her brother there. I spent a lot of time just people watching. Girls would walk up to me and flirt but none mentioned sex! They just would say Hi and act normal. I like women that are blunt. I feared asking a regular girl if she was a pro. I messaged a chica from prepagos before I went out. She responded that she was at one the clubs right down the street. I left to go meet her. She was where my dart landed that night so I never got a chance to get another price quote in Gustos. Now I'm very curious. I'm going over Halloween. I wonder how that will affect prices??[/QUOTE]From one black to another LOL I really felt your post. Especially the Atl stripper comment. Always loved blue flame and follies strip club. I've been to gustos twice. It was dope. But 200 usd. Sheesh. Idk about that. Maybe I can catch one for 100 usd LOL or later at night when she trying to get that bread LOL. But mannnn keep posting. Love reading ya trip reports.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2217238]Based on over 12 years going to Colombia and marriage to a Colombiana (now divorced), 99% of the time, if a girl in a place like Gustos walks by and says "Hi," she is a prepago. A regular girl would have no reason to say Hi to you, no matter how good you look. That is not their culture.[/QUOTE]True true true true!
The Tall Man stays almost clear of parque lleras however from time to time I hang with some friends who just need to see it so, over the past 8 years I have visited the clubs and bars probably twice a year on average and maybe a total of 4 times in Gustos over the past 4 years, my point is that my expectation ANY women in Gustos is that she IS A PREPAGO unless she proves otherwise. So my experience is that 99% are prepagos.
TTM.
[QUOTE=Starlord1;2217373]From one black to another LOL I really felt your post. Especially the Atl stripper comment. Always loved blue flame and follies strip club. I've been to gustos twice. It was dope. But 200 usd. Sheesh. Idk about that. Maybe I can catch one for 100 usd LOL or later at night when she trying to get that bread LOL. But mannnn keep posting. Love reading ya trip reports.[/QUOTE]200 USD is for punters who don't know prices. On my last visit to MDE which I wrote about a chica asked for 600 k and I walked away. I saw her the SAME NIGHT at The Beer store and she agreed to 200 k.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2217238]Based on over 12 years going to Colombia and marriage to a Colombiana (now divorced), 99% of the time, if a girl in a place like Gustos walks by and says "Hi," she is a prepago. A regular girl would have no reason to say Hi to you, no matter how good you look. That is not their culture.[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2217508]200 USD is for punters who don't know prices. On my last visit to MDE which I wrote about a chica asked for 600 k and I walked away. I saw her the SAME NIGHT at The Beer store and she agreed to 200 k.[/QUOTE]That's how it works, they get 600 k from one of the bobos at Gustos, then go to another place and will accept much less since some bobo already made her night. Since he kicked in an extra 200 for me, she averages 400 per session. LOL.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2217346]Why hesitant to hit Gusto alone? I can understand being hesitant to hit La Copa del Rey (an El Centro bar) alone, but Gusto is gringo ground zero. There will probably be other gringos who are there alone. Certainly there will be working girls there who will be happy to introduce themselves. As ColombiaLover said, if the come up and talk to you, or make heavy eye contact and smile, they're in the game and for $200, sometimes less, they'll make you happy.
Then again, why go there at all? A walk around Parque Lleras and you'll find dozens of other clubs and chances are good you'll find a few working girls in most, or you'll be able to see them working their way up and down the streets. You'll also find that their prices will be $100 or less. $67 and $50 are possible. That's roughly 300, 200 and 150 k in local currency vs. 600 k at Gusto.
Of course, if you want to see everything MDE has to offer, you'll need to walk by La Copa Del Rey and El Rey de Copas and about 40 other bars in El Centro. You'll find working girls in almost every one and their prices run from 30 k to 100 k. Most won't be dressed as nice as the girls in Gusto, but plenty look just as good. And you can find them at 2 pm instead of 11 pm.
However, wandering around El Centro alone can be intimidating. Especially if the toothless one legged hooker comes hopping up to you.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I get it. Shiiiid, $200 is out of the question barring extraordinary circumstances. You guys really are a wealth of knowledge.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2217562]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?[/QUOTE]Regular women, at least from what I saw in Medellin, rarely go to clubs alone. They also rarely pay attention to middle aged gringos, unless the middle aged gringos are throwing lots of money around. They will be sociable. It's not difficult to talk to them. They just aren't likely to initiate a conversation with the typical gringo monger.
What's up fellas. I'm staying in El Poblado with my lady. I know, why bring sand to the beach? Because I had no other choice. I'm staying near Park Manila and was hoping some of you guys could recommend some nearby (walking distance) daytime options. It's my first time in Colombia and most of the places I've read about are mostly nighttime friendly and out of my travel radius. I have no contacts here so I cannot use the "I'm going to catch up with a buddy" excuse. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I speak almost perfect Spanish so that's not a barrier.
5 FB girls. Did a 3 some with Daniella great performer with her friend. Saw a couple other ones average session was 200 k with my special request for number of leches time etc.
Daniella was not much of a looker which I knew ahead of time but she came highly recommended for a 3 some.
The other 3 girls I saw I picked out of my friends fb roster and here is the impression I got.
While all the girls were friendly and accommodating as far as bombshell type of looks you get what you pay for.
I am reading comments on people taken hidden shots at me saying paying 200 usd for a Gustos girl is bad or paying 600 k and up for a Lidos girl on Bogota is insane.
I am early 40's and while I'm not the greatest looking guy I'm not ugly and I still date hot women in the states.
So my conclusion is this. Many men on this board have completely different taste and judgement in women.
Now I don't know any member or seen them. So this is not to offend anyone.
But to give an example I am guessing many members here are in the bracket of age 50-70 and past their prime as far as "the dating game" I think your definition of an 8 would be someone who is my bracket 30-40's still in the dating game and able to date attractive girls in their mid 20's we would think they are prob a 5-6.
The more and more I have read many diff boards and seen all the pics.
At the end of the day you get what you pay for and it's as simple as that. Yes many girls will negotiate and get desperate at times.
I'm sure you guys will get many great deals along the way.
But for all the guys saying you get model type girls for 200 k and banged them all night and did this and that I would say 90% of the time your model who you think is a 9 is quite simply a 6 in my book and only worth 150 k.
I post an honest trip report and I read and get messages about how dumb I am for paying 200 $ for a girl in Gustos. I'm not saying she was all that in the looks department but I felt like it was 200 $ well spent. So when you call those people insulting names it's just pure hate and jealously.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2216028]
About Divini Women, my friend said:
"One of the girls I went see had disappeared and I couldn't find her anywhere, yesterday there was a new place that opened up around the corner from New Life, the girl I was looking for was the owner, 3 former working girls opened this new place everything is top notch, very professional, one of the girls stands on the corner about a block away handing out fliers, she will also escort you there. They have about 8 girls, 2 really nice and a few fat ones, it takes time they come and go, there is a college two blocks up the road, that's where most of the girls come from, I get approach all the time by nice girls that are coming and going from class."
Hope some of you find this information helpful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I got one of these cards a couple of weeks ago and was going to check it out this week but it sounds like it's already on the monger network radar. Have fun!
[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2216616]Congrats on wrecking the market. I think in order to put the market back in balance you should head over to that Divini club in centro and bang a couple of those 35 k chicas.[/QUOTE]If these $20 chicas can get $60 to $300 usd from gringos, more power to them. The setup is perfect for the buyers and sellers. The good thing is it's a buyers market so quality can be found to fit any budget if you have the time and information.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2215223]Yeah I hear ya. I had a real non pro tinder date. We fucked second date. Really good and passionate. Then is showing me instagram photos of romantic scenes of flowers etc. So I play ball, she has been good and I get her roses delivered. Later that day is like "oh I dunno if I can pay my wifi bill" but than she is like "oh roses are nice but they die in a few days, it is nice to have something thast last" Really? FUCK YOU UNGRATEFUL ****!! Fucking hate that shit.
Brazil, I never even got closed to scammed. I want to go back again but wtf why are the flights always soo fucking expensive. I never get a deal and it's not that far. I had better deals to uraguary.[/QUOTE]I hear you bro. Flights were expensive from Medellin to Rio last time I looked and I don't have a visa yet, but I heard Rio is live in December so I may go this year.
[QUOTE=Devinn38;2212961]$15.00. Doesn't seem worth all the fuss.[/QUOTE]Maybe not to you but it makes this thread entertaining. We have everything from guys arguing over $15 to guys paying central chicas $170. Variety is the spice of life!
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[QUOTE=Cruizer21;2217633]What's up fellas. I'm staying in El Poblado with my lady. I know, why bring sand to the beach? Because I had no other choice. I'm staying near Park Manila and was hoping some of you guys could recommend some nearby (walking distance) daytime options. It's my first time in Colombia and most of the places I've read about are mostly nighttime friendly and out of my travel radius. I have no contacts here so I cannot use the "I'm going to catch up with a buddy" excuse. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I speak almost perfect Spanish so that's not a barrier.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.candyhousemedellin.com/[/URL]
It is in Manila but they charge 250,000 pesos. I haven't been there but I was intending to go check it out. Good reviews on a local board.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2216415]Staying at Energy Living. The building and the views are absolutely stunning. The entire building is clean and upscale and you can sense that as soon as you walk in. Had dinner at Carmen in Poblado checked out the street action. Some of these girls are drop dead gorgeous but look way too young and picking up street girls ain't my thing.
So we head over to Gustos around 1130. There was about 20 girls when we walked in.
We decided to get a bottle of whisky for 285 k cop and get the VIP booth in the back. One of my friends is a security guard there so he brought over about a dozen girls and we chatted up a few and danced and enjoyed passing time with some of them.
At around 1 am the place is jamming at least 40 girls many of them drop dead gorgoeous many of them seasoned pros. Based on the feel I got from talking to a few of them.
Once we started to negotiate all the girls were firm on 200 USD. About 5 of them which were the stunners asked for $300.
I settled on a gorgeous tall model type for 200 $ she spent over 14 hours with me we banged 4 x throughout the night.
Tonight it's off to Fase Dos.
BTW. Please don't write posts about how I overpaid etc etc or ruining the market etc. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to say you overpaid. Because some guys just have to pay more. Be it grossly over weight or for bad teeth and or overall poor hygiene.
But for the rest of the guys out there. Any chick that is quoting you a price in dollars is just trying to rip you off. She has pegged you for an idiot fresh off the boat.
Why would you even have dollars on you? Paying for a taxi is in dollars is a rip off also or anything else.
If a chick asks you to pay in dollars then ask her what the exchange rate is. They don't even know what it is. They just know they are ripping you off by charging more.
I know when you pay 10 to 20 bucks for a table dance in the States which amounts to paying for a hug IMHO, Then paying 200 bucks to get laid seems reasonable. But you can and should shed your pussy worshiping ways.
When you go to FASE 2 take a look at how many guys go up and throw money at the dancers on stage. NONE!
They make the girls come to them and ask for a tip. Usually but naked in front of you and then they give the chicks a 2 mill bill that isn't even worth a dollar. Jajaja.
I'm not saying you should be cheap. Just don't be stupid.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2217853]I'm not going to say you overpaid. Because some guys just have to pay more. Be it grossly over weight or for bad teeth and or overall poor hygiene.
But for the rest of the guys out there. Any chick that is quoting you a price in dollars is just trying to rip you off. She has pegged you for an idiot fresh off the boat.
Why would you even have dollars on you? Paying for a taxi is in dollars is a rip off also or anything else.
If a chick asks you to pay in dollars then ask her what the exchange rate is. They don't even know what it is. They just know they are ripping you off by charging more.
I know when you pay 10 to 20 bucks for a table dance in the States which amounts to paying for a hug IMHO, Then paying 200 bucks to get laid seems reasonable. But you can and should shed your pussy worshiping ways.[/QUOTE]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.
Whoever said I throw money around in Fase Dos?
Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2217562]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?[/QUOTE]To them, that is not being anti-social. If they are there with a group of other Colombians, they are there to be with them, not with you. They would have no reason to say "Hi" to you or make eye contact. Maybe if you say "Hi" first some will return the greeting. Colombia is different. Just like the South and the North in America are very different. Try saying Hi to someone on the streets of New York CIty and then compare it to saying Hi to someone in a small southern town.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2217562]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?[/QUOTE]In the US (assuming you live in the US), how many women in a restaurant or bar will come up to you and say "Hi" without any intention of hanging out with you? Socially, the women in Medellin are probably more reserved than women in the US.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2217888]In the US (assuming you live in the US), how many women in a restaurant or bar will come up to you and say "Hi" without any intention of hanging out with you? Socially, the women in Medellin are probably more reserved than women in the US.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didnj't know Gustos is a restaurant. How's the food? Pricey? Latin cuisine?
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2217681]I hear you bro. Flights were expensive from Medellin to Rio last time I looked and I don't have a visa yet, but I heard Rio is live in December so I may go this year.[/QUOTE]ITs the government and taxes that ruin it. I could do a two round trip to paris for the price that they charge for rio.
That said it is great. It's better to go right after New Years. The prices are lower and everyone is back from school, but it's not carnival yet. Don't go carnival. Too fucking expensive for no reason and everything is a clisterfuck.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2217798][URL]http://www.candyhousemedellin.com/[/URL]
It is in Manila but they charge 250,000 pesos. I haven't been there but I was intending to go check it out. Good reviews on a local board.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. That place is literally 2 blocks from me. However, looking at the pics on the website it looks like all the girls are enhanced. It's a turn off but I may partake since it's so close. I'm also thinking about visiting Jade Palace (jadespapoblado. Co), which is a massage place. It's a 10 min walk from me. Anyone have experience with either place?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.[/QUOTE]Full of foreigners has nothing to do with nothing. Why would a guy from England, Spain, Germany or Brazil need to hear a price in USD? EVERYONE IS IN COLOMBIA! And they invented Colombian Pesos so it could be used as a standard within the borders of that country. If someone ain't telling you the price in local currency then 9.5 times out of 10 you are about to get ripped off. When they tell you a price in USD, tell them that you only have pesos. Get her to give you a price in pesos. She will not even want to say that same price (if by far off chance that she even knows) 600,000 pesos because it even sounds ridiculous to her!
Let's say the average monthly wage where you live is $3000. Imagine if you were back home selling dick. A chick came up to you and asked how much for some dick. You probably could not keep a straight face if you told her $2000. Unless you were a professional hustler, it would be much easier to tell her that same price in a currency that was FOREIGN to you, same as those chicks in Gusto's do. They know mfs in Colombia make 800,000 pesos/month. There is no way they could tell you 600,000 pesos and be serious.
When I go to Tijuana, Mexico the street girls give a price of $20. I say but I have pesos. They say 200 pesos then. At this very moment the exchange rate of USD to Mexican Pesos is 19.08. So when I now pay 200 pesos instead of the $20 originally asked for, I am actually paying $10.48. See how that works?
Nobody is trying to talk down or talk bad. We understand there is a learning curve in mongering and it is just one of the tricks to the trade. Only discuss transactions in local currency.
P.S. This post is in no way meant to tell anyone how they should spend their money. It only serves as mere guidance for those wishing not to be ripped off.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.
Whoever said I throw money around in Fase Dos?
Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.[/QUOTE]Fuck who you want and pay what you want. To hell with everyone who thinks you need their prior approval before sealing a deal. Unless they are the one washing the dick after the deed, they don't get to decide where it goes or what you pay.
However, there's a solution to girls who ask for dollars. Simply tell them you only have pesos. "Lo siento amor. No tengo dolares, solo tengo pesos." Make them do the conversion. Chances are that the $200 will drop to 400 k or 300 k pesos right off the bat. Counter with "Princesa, siempre pago dos cientos mil, mas taxi." She might walk away, but there's a solid chance she'll be back. Tossing in a few nice words helps. Most are quite vain, so they react well to compliments.
If she turns her nose in the air and walks away, you just avoided paying $200 to deal with a bad attitude.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.
[/QUOTE]Hearing a price in USD is the clearest sign that one should leave, that the girl is looking at the rich foreigner who, due to lack of information in most cases, is open to pay prices out of the local market (and not for a special service in change).
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2218015] If someone ain't telling you the price in local currency then 9.5 times out of 10 you are about to get ripped off. When they tell you a price in USD, tell them that you only have pesos. Get her to give you a price in pesos. She will not even want to say that same price (if by far off chance that she even knows) 600,000 pesos because it even sounds ridiculous to her!
[/QUOTE]Mr E is spot on! I totally agree with the above. I believe that I get a good experience from a girl, if she has respect for me. A girl who considers me naif enough to be easy to exploit does not have respect for me. Period.
I am not advising to be stingy. To some extent, it is natural that, since an American tourist has a much higher spending capability than a local, he is expected to be "generous". But one thing is being considered generous, another is being considered stupid. I always try to keep that in mind and walk on the thin line, because I like a girl considers me generous (but not stupid).
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.[/QUOTE]The model types will do TLN for 300-400 k COP. There's no additional work involved than what you did, other than quoting in COP.
[QUOTE=Cruizer21;2217985]Thank you for the info. That place is literally 2 blocks from me. However, looking at the pics on the website it looks like all the girls are enhanced. It's a turn off but I may partake since it's so close. I'm also thinking about visiting Jade Palace (jadespapoblado. Co), which is a massage place. It's a 10 min walk from me. Anyone have experience with either place?[/QUOTE]Candy House appears to be marketing to Colombian professionals. On the local Board, I would say that in 90% of the reports, for safety reasons, the Locals prefer covered BJ. This is probably why natural oral seems to always require a tip in Medellin. So I imagine that in the Candy House if you wanted natural oral then you would have to pay 300,000 pesos for an hour.
One of the apartment girls I was with in Laureles told me she used to work at Jade Palace. She thought she had met me before but I have never been to Jade Palace. She had very average looks but she had good skills. Her photos were fake on the internet. She was not enhanced.
The conflict seems to be whether or not Gustos is a rip-off.
I say let the markets work. If the prices are too high they will soon go out of business. If you read this Board there is plenty of warning. Guys are going there of their own free volition with plenty of information.
From my experience, there is always one high-end club in every South American city that I have visited.
Rio de Janeiro. Barbarella.
Sao Paulo. Cafe Photo now maybe Scandallo.
Lima. Emmanuelle.
Bogota. Lido.
Santiago. Black and White.
Buenos Aires. Black maybe now Dilerio.
They are ripoffs! Close them all!
After reading everyone's opinions it's safe to say both sides have valid points!
I definitely agree with Mr. E in a lot of ways. But I get the other angle. What some would consider a rookie mistake could be I'm OK with it price to others. It's all about supply and demand. He is not the only one willing to pay this price. $200 was fair to him based on the situation he was in. Everyone should have a magic number in their head that they are willing to pay. If $200 is within his number then boom. -$200 USD from his money stashed in his sock. Think of it this way. Girls charge for uncovered Blowjobs. Those prices vary girl to girl. Most locals aren't willing to pay extra for a uncovered blow job. Some foreigners refuse to let a girl touch them without being covered. Others pay what the "think" is standard tip for uncovered, and last you have some girls almost doubling the price and calling it full service. Either way the cost fluctuates and is paid throughout the whole scale. I personally feel $200 usd is a stupid price hahaha but not that he is stupid for spending it!! I think she's stupid for charging it! I'm sure her nightly quota will come a lot faster if she catered to the shoppers price points. Overall, bro you are not stupid for paying it because at the end of the day she's selling her body and gets the luxury of setting her price but. Just know she sets her price higher expecting you to try and negotiate down. When she doesn't budge she probably confident it's going to be a busy night and that someone else (similar to you) will. As it gets later and she has more drinks etc etc and she gets rejected enough for $200 she will soften her demands. Unless someone bites LOL then her standards shoot right back up. In a club like Gustos where she she can't just bang you in the back room, she's thinking about making the most possible per guy. These guys in the board are just saying, she sees you as that goldmine that saves her from banging 6 guys tonight. In her eyes a guy like you makes for an easy Friday night of work. But you on the other hand have enough money to not let that become a bargaining situation. You have the money, you can afford it, and your willing to pay it so there's nothing wrong with it. This argument is subjective. Both win.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2218185]The conflict seems to be whether or not Gustos is a rip-off.
I say let the markets work. If the prices are too high they will soon go out of business. If you read this Board there is plenty of warning. Guys are going there of their own free volition with plenty of information.
From my experience, there is always one high-end club in every South American city that I have visited.
Rio de Janeiro. Barbarella.
Sao Paulo. Cafe Photo now maybe Scandallo.
Lima. Emmanuelle.
Bogota. Lido.
Santiago. Black and White.
Buenos Aires. Black maybe now Dilerio.
They are ripoffs! Close them all![/QUOTE]They are all higher end and rip offs. However Lidos IMO definitely has the hottest girls but even I won't pay those prices. Last time I was there is was 700 k pesos for one hour and 190 k room or exit fee. That's just insane.
Paying 200 USD in Colombia is like paying $50 for a one way ride on the New York subway. It's way out of proportion.
If you want to spend big I recommend hopping over to the Sao Paolo, Brazil forum. There's a place called Scandaloo where you can pay those prices and get top notch porn star quality Brazilians. The club also has excellent food and top notch whiskey. What I'm trying to say is instead of paying 50 for a subway token get yourself a nice car rental. It's about value for money. Colombia doesn't have the capacity to offer you 200 USD worth of sex. It just doesn't.
He said it was 14 hours and 4 pops. Doesn't sound like he overpaid if he was happy. Only 40.000 cop an hour.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2218280]Paying 200 USD in Colombia is like paying $50 for a one way ride on the New York subway. It's way out of proportion.
If you want to spend big I recommend hopping over to the Sao Paolo, Brazil forum. There's a place called Scandaloo where you can pay those prices and get top notch porn star quality Brazilians. The club also has excellent food and top notch whiskey. What I'm trying to say is instead of paying 50 for a subway token get yourself a nice car rental. It's about value for money. Colombia doesn't have the capacity to offer you 200 USD worth of sex. It just doesn't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2217853]I'm not going to say you overpaid. Because some guys just have to pay more. Be it grossly over weight or for bad teeth and or overall poor hygiene.
But for the rest of the guys out there. Any chick that is quoting you a price in dollars is just trying to rip you off. She has pegged you for an idiot fresh off the boat.
Why would you even have dollars on you? Paying for a taxi is in dollars is a rip off also or anything else.
If a chick asks you to pay in dollars then ask her what the exchange rate is. They don't even know what it is. They just know they are ripping you off by charging more.
I know when you pay 10 to 20 bucks for a table dance in the States which amounts to paying for a hug IMHO, Then paying 200 bucks to get laid seems reasonable. But you can and should shed your pussy worshiping ways.
When you go to FASE 2 take a look at how many guys go up and throw money at the dancers on stage. NONE!
They make the girls come to them and ask for a tip. Usually but naked in front of you and then they give the chicks a 2 mill bill that isn't even worth a dollar. Jajaja.
I'm not saying you should be cheap. Just don't be stupid.[/QUOTE]You're 100 spot on but to guys just visiting and using their local economy as a frame of reference, they won't care. In their minds, disregarding the air fare, hotel, and other travel related costs, as long as they are physically giving a chic less than they would back in the states or wherever they are from, they came out ahead in their minds. I know you are trying to educate and perhaps your advice will resonate with some. Also, I am in no way criticizing the original poster because its his money and if he had fun, it was obviously worth it to him.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2218280]Paying 200 USD in Colombia is like paying $50 for a one way ride on the New York subway. It's way out of proportion.
[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but I think folks said all the girls there use $200 USD as a baseline for pricing. Obviously they are sharing information just like we do, but how did they come up with $200? Somehow the belief has spread that gringos are willing to pay $200 for some booty in Medellin? Not trying to understand or figure these hoes out LOL. It is just amusing to me the direction this is heading. Then again, I remember the days when Lleras was much different and the internet dating sites weren't full of hookers LOL.
I got to give the chicas props because they see the sea of newbies and those with a lot of disposable income flocking to Medellin so they are seizing on the opportunity. On another note, if you're staying in a fly spot like Energy in Poblado, a babe is going to be thinking you got loot when she gets there anyway.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2218254]They are all higher end and rip offs. However Lidos IMO definitely has the hottest girls but even I won't pay those prices. Last time I was there is was 700 k pesos for one hour and 190 k room or exit fee. That's just insane.[/QUOTE]It's your money and you did it right. There are no pockets to take it into afterlife. In fact, I always applaud anyone who pays more than me. This way, the guys that pay more just subsidize my hobby by attracting and retaining talent in the industry. And its all relevant how much more other guys pay. Watch the video and scroll down for the text; it's worth reading: [URL]http://www.soho.co/historias/multimedia/prepagos-en-bogota-flirt-bogota/47244[/URL].
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2218308]Correct me if I'm wrong but I think folks said all the girls there use $200 USD as a baseline for pricing. Obviously they are sharing information just like we do, but how did they come up with $200?[/QUOTE]It's an outlandish number. It's what chicas try to get away with also in Cartagena. I was watching Septimo DIA, a show in Colombia that airs on the weekend, and when they did an episode on sex tourism all the hookers in Santa Fe, Bogota, were going on about getting 200 USD from tourists. It's the mythical large number a chica would charge that they all tell each other to inflate their own egos.
And its working on some punters in Club Gusto because they can't be bothered to pay local prices.
My response to "dos centios dolares" has always been "pero soy Canadianese" with a dumb look on my face. It gets them EVERYTIME haha.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2218308]Correct me if I'm wrong but I think folks said all the girls there use $200 USD as a baseline for pricing. Obviously they are sharing information just like we do, but how did they come up with $200? Somehow the belief has spread that gringos are willing to pay $200 for some booty in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Dude that is an easy one. This has been going on since people have been mongering in foreign lands. I even have my own instances of it happening. I don't know if you have heard the ones about the US soldiers being in Italy during the war. One guy asked a prostitute how much and she held up 3 fingers. He took the chick and when he finished gave her 3 dollars. The price was actually 3 cents.
In my own instance, my first time mongering in Rio I took a chick from in front of Help. She told me the price would be 100. Got back to the room and had a nice time. The next morning when it was time for her to leave I handed her 100 reais. She wanted to know where the rest of it was. I said you said 100. Then she said dollars. I laughed at her and cussed her out. Told her the same thing I said in the other post. I am in Brazil, why would I be talking about US Dollars? She said she would get her mafia friends bla, bla, bla.
Also, I was in Ghana and took a trip with some coworkers to the Gold Coast. One of the hotel workers called up some guy that takes people on the trip. The driver said it would cost 80 for the trip. When we got back to the hotel that evening we pooled our money together and gave him 80 cedi. The guy was angry and said it was supposed to be 80 US Dollars. Same spiel. Why would I be talking about US Dollars when I am in Ghana? Told him he needed to make it clear whenever he does the trip because he never said anything about dollars. We settled on giving him half of whatever the balance was.
So in Gustos what happned was a guy asked a chick how much. The chick said dos sientos meaning 200,000 pesos. The guy probably didn't even speak Spanish and misunderstood. After the session the guy handed the girl US $200. She told all her friends. Now everybody asks for US $200 because that is obviously nothing to a foreigner.
P.S. It is funny how this never works the other way. When the local currency is worth more than the USD, it is never oh it was only supposed to be 80 dollars, not pounds, euro, etc. It is always supposed to be the amount that makes you come out your pocket more.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2218308]Then again, I remember the days when Lleras was much different and the internet dating sites weren't full of hookers LOL.[/QUOTE]Shit is out of control. Especially for a guy like me. I was doing internet dating even before there was an internet. Back when you could call the 976 chat lines. Back then there were bootleg calling cards that circulated and also you could stick a safety pin in the microphone part of the pay phone then rub it on the silver part of the box and get free calls. So I would meet chicks on those things and get them to send their pictures in snail mail before I would go see them.
Then internet shit got going in 98/99 and I would meet chicks in America Online chat rooms. In a couple I must have fucked every chick in the room. And a lot of these chicks even knew each other in real life. Once I was with a chick in Los Angeles and she wanted to go meet up with one of the other chicks in the chatroom that I had already fucked. I thought I was being set up, but still went along with it. The other chick didn't scream and I didn't holler. I guess she didn't want her good thing messed up just as much as I didn't. Those were the good old days.
Fast forward to yesterday and I am on Tinder here in Thailand. I'm just looking for someone to hang out with and maybe go to the pool at my friend's condo. Start talking to one chick and she asks what I am looking for. I tell her and she tells me she is on the site for work. I say what do you mean. She said this app is to find men that want to fuck and give money. Like you said, the hookers have taken over!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2218326]Dude that is an easy one. This has been going on since people have been mongering in foreign lands. I even have my own instances of it happening. I don't know if you have heard the ones about the US soldiers being in Italy during the war. One guy asked a prostitute how much and she held up 3 fingers. He took the chick and when he finished gave her 3 dollars. The price was actually 3 cents.
In my own instance, my first time mongering in Rio I took a chick from in front of Help. She told me the price would be 100. Got back to the room and had a nice time. The next morning when it was time for her to leave I handed her 100 reais. She wanted to know where the rest of it was. I said you said 100. Then she said dollars. I laughed at her and cussed her out. Told her the same thing I said in the other post. I am in Brazil, why would I be talking about US Dollars? She said she would get her mafia friends bla, bla, bla.
Also, I was in Ghana and took a trip with some coworkers to the Gold Coast. One of the hotel workers called up some guy that takes people on the trip. The driver said it would cost 80 for the trip. When we got back to the hotel we got our money together and gave him 80 cedi. The guy was angry and said it was supposed to be 80 US Dollars. Same spiel. Why would I be talking about US Dollars when I am in Ghana? Told him he needed to make it clear whenever he does the trip because he never said anything about dollars. We settled on giving him half of whatever the balance was..[/QUOTE]After reading all this info about Gustos I think you are right. Some guy paid the $200, and that set the bar. Lets hope the rest of the new gringos see the light.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2218327]Shit is out of control. Especially for a guy like me. I was doing internet dating even before there was an internet. Back when you could call the 976 chat lines. Back then there were bootleg calling cards that circulated and also you could stick a safety pin in the microphone part of the pay phone then rub it on the silver part of the box and get free calls. So I would meet chicks on those things and get them to send their pictures in snail mail before I would go see them.
Then internet shit got going in 98/99 and I would meet chicks in America Online chat rooms. In a couple I must have fucked every chick in the room. And a lot of these chicks even knew each other in real life. Once I was with a chick in Los Angeles and she wanted to go meet up with one of the other chicks in the chatroom that I had already fucked. I thought I was being set up, but still went along with it. The other chick didn't scream and I didn't holler. I guess she didn't want her good thing messed up just as much as I didn't. Those were the good old days.[/QUOTE]You're bringing back memories.
1990 I started getting on the BBSs in San Diego. Started up my own single line message board and started meeting people. All just innocent meet and greet until I'm checking my board one morning before work. Some new girl is on writing a long message to me. One of the guys I had met sent her to my board. Certified nympho, 21 and begging for sex. I agreed to meet, expecting some fat or ugly chick. Met at Pacific Beach and she's easily hotter than any girl I'd been with. Saw her 3 times a week when her husband was at work for almost 6 months.
That opened my eyes. Started on the multi-line chat BBSs and soon had my pick. It was so easy back then. Didn't have to flirt, just be nice and chatty.
In 1995 QuickCam provided cheap, poor, digital video. Combine that with a dial-up internet provider and CUSeeMe and you had worldwide video chatroom. I traveled the US constantly in those days. With EarthLink I had a local dial-up number wherever I went. If I was headed to Dallas, I'd find some girl who lived in Dallas, and when I hit town most would come and meet me. About half the time we'd end up in bed. I had regulars in NY, NJ, TX, OR, AZ and CO and met girls in about 20 other states. I only remember getting stood up 2 times.
Funny story. Around 1997, MTV got into the internet. Set up their website and hired a guy to handle all of their internet content. Along with the website, the guy set up a CUSeeMe video chat site and started meeting women. He had a big travel budget and was wining and dining several women. Sent roses and jewelry, flew them to Vegas and NY. Told all of them he was going to leave his wife and marry them. Soon. I met 4 women he had been seeing and fucked 3 of them. One of them I bought a glass of tea. That was the most I spent on any of the women he had spent several hundred dollars on. Two of them became regulars. The 3rd, I spent a weekend with, in a nice beachfront hotel in Virginia Beach, that he had paid for. She checked in Friday and he wasn't due in until Tuesday. I got there Friday night and left Monday morning.
Now if you try to talk to a girl online she sends you a PayPal or CashMe link, just to say Hello,. You've got strippers and escorts advertising on Snapchat. First Colombian I sent a friend request on Facebook to told me I had to use a condom when I was just asking if she wanted to meet for lunch. No joke. Now everyone has a price.
I don't mind paying, but I do miss the days when it was all simple and free.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2218327]Shit is out of control. Especially for a guy like me. I was doing internet dating even before there was an internet. Back when you could call the 976 chat lines. Back then there were bootleg calling cards that circulated and also you could stick a safety pin in the microphone part of the pay phone then rub it on the silver part of the box and get free calls. So I would meet chicks on those things and get them to send their pictures in snail mail before I would go see them.
Then internet shit got going in 98/99 and I would meet chicks in America Online chat rooms. In a couple I must have fucked every chick in the room. And a lot of these chicks even knew each other in real life. Once I was with a chick in Los Angeles and she wanted to go meet up with one of the other chicks in the chatroom that I had already fucked. I thought I was being set up, but still went along with it. The other chick didn't scream and I didn't holler. I guess she didn't want her good thing messed up just as much as I didn't. Those were the good old days.
Fast forward to yesterday and I am on Tinder here in Thailand. I'm just looking for someone to hang out with and maybe go to the pool at my friend's condo. Start talking to one chick and she asks what I am looking for. I tell her and she tells me she is on the site for work. I say what do you mean. She said this app is to find men that want to fuck and give money. Like you said, the hookers have taken over![/QUOTE]I hear you, in Medellin my experience with Tinder is that 99.99% are looking for $$ Some real stunners though. I had an account for about 6 months, got probably 100 hits / matches but never bothered to follow up as the other venues take all my time and energies. In Medellin I wish I had 3 dicks and let me tell you they would be used non-stop, jejejejeje.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2218330]After reading all this info about Gustos I think you are right. Some guy paid the $200, and that set the bar. Lets hope the rest of the new gringos see the light.[/QUOTE]Is Gustos the best of Medellin? The place to go? The most representative place in town? The place with the best looking and hottest girls in town? The ultimate reason why one should organize a trip to Medellin?
Those who go to Gustos get what they aim at, and most likely what they CAN aim at.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2218308]Correct me if I'm wrong but I think folks said all the girls there use $200 USD as a baseline for pricing. Obviously they are sharing information just like we do, but how did they come up with $200? Somehow the belief has spread that gringos are willing to pay $200 for some booty in Medellin? Not trying to understand or figure these hoes out LOL. It is just amusing to me the direction this is heading. Then again, I remember the days when Lleras was much different and the internet dating sites weren't full of hookers LOL.
I got to give the chicas props because they see the sea of newbies and those with a lot of disposable income flocking to Medellin so they are seizing on the opportunity. On another note, if you're staying in a fly spot like Energy in Poblado, a babe is going to be thinking you got loot when she gets there anyway.[/QUOTE]
The real question is who in there right mind goes anywhere in Colombia with $200 USD on them or even has it at their place.
At the very least you should make the chicks quote you the equivalent price in pesos so you see if they can keep a straight face when they say the price for their pussy is 600 mill. Jajaja.
I'm sure the girls at Gustos talk and try to set a ridiculously high price for newbies fresh on the scene. But if you get a girl away from her friends and just tell her you will pay her 300 or even 400 mill for todo la noche and that nobody else needs to know. Most of those chicks at gustos will take it. Plenty of chicks there have taken 300 mill for the night and just asked me not to say anything to the others.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2218559]Is Gustos the best of Medellin? The place to go? The most representative place in town? The place with the best looking and hottest girls in town? The ultimate reason why one should organize a trip to Medellin?
Those who go to Gustos get what they aim at, and most likely what they CAN aim at.[/QUOTE]Fase dos and loutron are supposedly the best. And those places are 300 k at most which is like $100.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2218605]Fase dos and loutron are supposedly the best. And those places are 300 k at most which is like $100.[/QUOTE]Actually Fase II is 190 k or about $64.
This is an actual "Medellin Report" rather than the chitchat and bullshit that has recently taken over this tread. There is another thread for that.
I went to Diviniwomen this morning, arrived about 11:25. There was a nice looking lady who opened the door, but she told me she wasn't available. She asked if I wanted something to drink. I opted for a bottle of water since I had walked from the Parque Berrio metro station. She sent one lady in for presentation, but I wasn't impressed with her. She told me she had a couple others who would be available in about five minutes. In a few minutes, Andrea came in for presentation. She has a very nice body, but acted somewhat disinterested. I decided to go with her anyway, 45 minutes for 60 mil. In the room, I took a shower first. They have in-room showers with hot water.
Andrea immediately went for a condom, without any foreplay. I did talk her in to letting me play with her breasts first. Nice young natural B size. After a very short time, she wanted to get on with the covered BJ. She declined a tip for sin condom. She has good BJ skills, especially the tongue action. If it wasn't for that condom. I probably would have finished right there. I eventually took the situation in hand and finished.
The place is clean with comfortable beds. Price sheet on the table was 45 mil for 30 minutes, 60 mil for 45, and 80 mil for one hour. The bottle of water was 2,500 I think, I did not count the coins. I will probably go back to see what other talent they may have. It is more personable than a place like New Life because the boss lady carried on a conversation. Only Spanish, no English.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2218597]The real question is who in there right mind goes anywhere in Colombia with $200 USD on them or even has it at their place.
At the very least you should make the chicks quote you the equivalent price in pesos so you see if they can keep a straight face when they say the price for their pussy is 600 mill. Jajaja.
I'm sure the girls at Gustos talk and try to set a ridiculously high price for newbies fresh on the scene. But if you get a girl away from her friends and just tell her you will pay her 300 or even 400 mill for todo la noche and that nobody else needs to know. Most of those chicks at gustos will take it. Plenty of chicks there have taken 300 mill for the night and just asked me not to say anything to the others.[/QUOTE]Another thing is what days you go. If your trip is based on the weekend thurs-sat chances are girls (especially the real hot ones) will not budge. Gustos is full of foreigners and based on their experience they know they will get their $ on those nights.
Sunday. Wednesday you can definitely get half the price.
It comes down to the demand and I'm assuming once Labor Day is over and it's low season the prices will drop.
I had a question about the parque Bolivar area you may be able to answer. I know you also expore a lot of the centro area late. What is your opinion on staying near the park. Is it walkable late at night? If not will the cabs care about short trips? Less than 10 blocks
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2218612]Actually Fase II is 190 k or about $64.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2218655]I had a question about the parque Bolivar area you may be able to answer. I know you also expore a lot of the centro area late. What is your opinion on staying near the park. Is it walkable late at night? If not will the cabs care about short trips? Less than 10 blocks
[/QUOTE]It's so / so, not to bad right at the park due to the police substation, it gets scarier every block you go west (above Ave Maracaibo ie Calle53) till you pass the Metro and it get real scary. I usually only go 1 block and a half to the strip clubs at night but I have been down that way on foot for dinner after dark a few times, seemed OK, but I haven't been there past midnight, if you want to be Casa centric would be good, for the strip clubs I would stay a few more blocks west, Maracaibo Ave or lower. I have considered staying at Hotel Cristal ($26) or Hotel Capitolio ($33-Cra. 49 #57-28) they are right behind the Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medelland (the big brick church at Parque Bolivar) side by side and share a small swimming pool.
More TS street girls in that area so check carefully.
If you do stay there the close good food is Versalles for breakfast -[URL]http://versallesmedellin.com/[/URL] at Cr. 49 #53-39 ie Junin Walking Street which dead ends at the south end of Parque Bolivar, Ostras Marbella for cheap seafood Cra. 49 #54-07 (south west corner of the park) and for a nice fancier dinner with balcony seating over the walking street with traditional dishes Hacienda Junin- Cra. 49#52-98 Junin Walking Street [URL]https://www.haciendaorigen.com/[/URL]. While on Junin lots of good souvenirs in the "Centro Artesanal Mi Viejo Pueblo".
At Cra49 #53.
The first weekend of every month is the craft fair in Parque Bolivar, lots of cool stuff at a good price, I got a double person hammock for like 45 k.
I think the cabbies might like very short trips as the meter starts at like 6 k or something plus I tip.
Pics: Breakfast at Versalles and dinner at Hacienda. And gratuitous pic of Diana (60 k+- over in Raudal street block) she had the prettiest face I saw last trip, must get a pic of her face next time!
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2218614]This is an actual "Medellin Report" rather than the chitchat and bullshit that has recently taken over this tread. There is another thread for that.
I went to Diviniwomen this morning, arrived about 11:25.[/QUOTE]I stopped through there the other day. I didn't have any issues getting BBBJ, but overall I would say the talent was wack in comparison to the many other options in that area. I saw about 9 girls in their lineup, A couple were decent. The room we had was spacious and like you said they had that white converter in the shower to heat up the water. The place overall was clean. I doubt I'll be back anytime soon, but may give it a shot before the end of the year. I still haven't had a chance to visit New Life this year so that may be in the near future.
I'd like an address for the new casa, Divini. Someone else said it was around the corner from New Life.
If you don't have a street address, could you give me directions from New Life.
For example, "Step out the door of New Life. Turn left / right, cross the street / don't cross the street, and when you get to the next corner turn left / right and walk (a certain distance), stop at (a certain door). ".
Guy who mentioned the place on here wrote the address: Cr. 43 #55-49.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2511629[/URL], -75.5608707,3 a,75 y,300.58 h,91.68 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s8-NcQKx8 Myz6 DOkud3 AAdg!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.
There are a handful of nice girls. A couple of them are Aiffe veterans (it's also around the corner from there). I think they will do well with guys who get fed up with the hordes at New Life. It seems like a smaller version of Amigas Sexi. I hope it is a sign of a return to the days of 10 years ago when there were about twice as many casas around Centro.
Switching gears, the Yakuza owner is running a by appointment place on la 70. He'll send you a catalog via whatsapp and the girl you choose will meet you at the casa or do outcall. I didn't ask the tarifa, maybe somebody else here knows.
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2218682]I'd like an address for the new casa, Divini. Someone else said it was around the corner from New Life.
If you don't have a street address, could you give me directions from New Life.
For example, "Step out the door of New Life. Turn left / right, cross the street / don't cross the street, and when you get to the next corner turn left / right and walk (a certain distance), stop at (a certain door). ".[/QUOTE]
They have a website, instagram and facebook. I first saw the address here, I RTFF, LOL!
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2218682]I'd like an address for the new casa, Divini. Someone else said it was around the corner from New Life.
If you don't have a street address, could you give me directions from New Life.
For example, "Step out the door of New Life. Turn left / right, cross the street / don't cross the street, and when you get to the next corner turn left / right and walk (a certain distance), stop at (a certain door). ".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2218682]I'd like an address for the new casa, Divini. Someone else said it was around the corner from New Life.
If you don't have a street address, could you give me directions from New Life.
For example, "Step out the door of New Life. Turn left / right, cross the street / don't cross the street, and when you get to the next corner turn left / right and walk (a certain distance), stop at (a certain door). ".[/QUOTE]Cra. 43 #55-49.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2218686]Guy who mentioned the place on here wrote the address: Cr. 43 #55-49.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2511629[/URL], -75.5608707,3 a,75 y,300.58 h,91.68 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s8-NcQKx8 Myz6 DOkud3 AAdg!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.
There are a handful of nice girls. A couple of them are Aiffe veterans (it's also around the corner from there). I think they will do well with guys who get fed up with the hordes at New Life. It seems like a smaller version of Amigas Sexi. I hope it is a sign of a return to the days of 10 years ago when there were about twice as many casas around Centro.
Switching gears, the Yakuza owner is running a by appointment place on la 70. He'll send you a catalog via whatsapp and the girl you choose will meet you at the casa or do outcall. I didn't ask the tarifa, maybe somebody else here knows.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much.
Anybody been to Loutron recently? I'm check-in out their Instagram and twitter but they don't have pricing info. Are they 300 k an hour? Also, do they suck dick without the condom? Its not forbidden by the agency is it? I know I should just contact them directly but figured ID ask here. The 150 to 200 k photoprepago girls are asking 50 k extra to suck some dick a natural.
[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2218655]I had a question about the parque Bolivar area you may be able to answer. I know you also expore a lot of the centro area late. What is your opinion on staying near the park. Is it walkable late at night? If not will the cabs care about short trips? Less than 10 blocks.[/QUOTE]Taxi meters start at 3300, if I remember correctly and the minimum fare is 5400 cop. Taxi drivers are fine with short rides.
South and west of Parque Bolivar is tranny Central and the area over there isn't where I'd be walking after dark. It's mostly fine during the day.
Hato Viejo is an option for a good meal where the dining room is kept clean:
Mapa Hatoviejo Centro.
See map in Google maps.
Location: Sucre x Avenida La Playa.
Address: Carrera 47 No. 52-17.
If you are OK with continental breakfast or small omelettes with great coffee, the cafe at the Museo de Antioquia is inexpensive, clean and offers fun people watching only steps away from the infamous Veracruz stroll. Versailles is an institution but too crusty for me.
Hacienda is conveniently located and well managed. The traditional Colombian dishes are well prepared but there is not much variety in the menu. Most everything is made with pork so be ready for that.
Credenza on one of the upper floors of the language school is good and not too far from parque Bolivar / Plaza Botero / Maracaibo. You can walk to it safely after dark because the route is crowded. There is a varied menu.
Those are go to options around Centro I can recommend. For better quality you have to go to Laureles / la 70 or Poblado / Provenza.
Those are the Centro go.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2218675]It's so / so, not to bad right at the park due to the police substation, it gets scarier every block you go west (above Ave Maracaibo ie Calle53) till you pass the Metro and it get real scary. I usually only go 1 block and a half to the strip clubs at night but I have been down that way on foot for dinner after dark a few times, seemed OK, but I haven't been there past midnight, if you want to be Casa centric would be good, for the strip clubs I would stay a few more blocks west, Maracaibo Ave or lower. I have considered staying at Hotel Cristal ($26) or Hotel Capitolio ($33-Cra. 49 #57-28) they are right behind the Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medelland (the big brick church at Parque Bolivar) side by side and share a small swimming pool.
More TS street girls in that area so check carefully.
If you do stay there the close good food is Versalles for breakfast -[URL]http://versallesmedellin.com/[/URL] at Cr. 49 #53-39 ie Junin Walking Street which dead ends at the south end of Parque Bolivar, Ostras Marbella for cheap seafood Cra. 49 #54-07 (south west corner of the park) and for a nice fancier dinner with balcony seating over the walking street with traditional dishes Hacienda Junin- Cra. 49#52-98 Junin Walking Street [URL]https://www.haciendaorigen.com/[/URL]. While on Junin lots of good souvenirs in the "Centro Artesanal Mi Viejo Pueblo".[/QUOTE]
I am not in my right mind admittedly. Out of force of habit I normally have US $500 or so in my wallet at all times, wherever I am. I usually have about half that amount or so in local currency. I'm crazy but also cheap. I wouldn't pay a girl in Colombia US $200 even if I just won the lottery. I have no problem with anyone paying anything, it just isn't worth it to me because I don't judge that the quality of the experience or the provider is going to be three to four times better than casa or indie girls. I compromise with the facebook and mid range casa $150 K deals out of convenience or for a change of pace from time to time. 150 k is the upper limit beyond which in my opinion the value / price ratio gets out of whack. I'm neither judging nor criticizing, I am analyzing. North of 150 k is 'what the market will bear' territory. It's where gringos are many and Colombian men are very few.
Anyway back on topic, US $200 seems way up there compared to other options beyond Lleras. I suspect the Gustos management collects a good bit of that kind of price.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2218597]The real question is who in there right mind goes anywhere in Colombia with $200 USD on them or even has it at their place.
At the very least you should make the chicks quote you the equivalent price in pesos so you see if they can keep a straight face when they say the price for their pussy is 600 mill. Jajaja.
I'm sure the girls at Gustos talk and try to set a ridiculously high price for newbies fresh on the scene. But if you get a girl away from her friends and just tell her you will pay her 300 or even 400 mill for todo la noche and that nobody else needs to know. Most of those chicks at gustos will take it. Plenty of chicks there have taken 300 mill for the night and just asked me not to say anything to the others.[/QUOTE]
Carrera 43 # 55-49. __ Girls. Prices: 30 minutes to 3 hours 40 k to 190 k. Tel: _ Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm, Sundays and holidays 10:30 am to 4 pm.
CORRECT LINK IS:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cra.+43+%2355-49,+Medell%C3%ADn,+Antioquia,+Colombia/@6.2524553,-75.5653474,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8e4428f9e6ce000f:0x4357ca17b38704a7!8m2!3d6.2524553!4d-75.5631534[/URL]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2218686]Guy who mentioned the place on here wrote the address: Cr. 43 #55-49.
Wrong Link.
There are a handful of nice girls. A couple of them are Aiffe veterans (it's also around the corner from there). I think they will do well with guys who get fed up with the hordes at New Life. It seems like a smaller version of Amigas Sexi. I hope it is a sign of a return to the days of 10 years ago when there were about twice as many casas around Centro.
Switching gears, the Yakuza owner is running a by appointment place on la 70. He'll send you a catalog via whatsapp and the girl you choose will meet you at the casa or do outcall. I didn't ask the tarifa, maybe somebody else here knows.[/QUOTE]
Really appreciate the info, thanks.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2218675]It's so / so, not to bad right at the park due to the police substation, it gets scarier every block you go west (above Ave Maracaibo ie Calle53) till you pass the Metro and it get real scary. I usually only go 1 block and a half to the strip clubs at night but I have been down that way on foot for dinner after dark a few times, seemed OK, but I haven't been there past midnight, if you want to be Casa centric would be good, for the strip clubs I would stay a few more blocks west, Maracaibo Ave or lower. I have considered staying at Hotel Cristal ($26) or Hotel Capitolio ($33-Cra. 49 #57-28) they are right behind the Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medelland (the big brick church at Parque Bolivar) side by side and share a small swimming pool.
More TS street girls in that area so check carefully.
If you do stay there the close good food is Versalles for breakfast -[URL]http://versallesmedellin.com/[/URL] at Cr. 49 #53-39 ie Junin Walking Street which dead ends at the south end of Parque Bolivar, Ostras Marbella for cheap seafood Cra. 49 #54-07 (south west corner of the park) and for a nice fancier dinner with balcony seating over the walking street with traditional dishes Hacienda Junin- Cra. 49#52-98 Junin Walking Street [URL]https://www.haciendaorigen.com/[/URL]. While on Junin lots of good souvenirs in the "Centro Artesanal Mi Viejo Pueblo".
At Cra49 #53.
The first weekend of every month is the craft fair in Parque Bolivar, lots of cool stuff at a good price, I got a double person hammock for like 45 k.
I think the cabbies might like very short trips as the meter starts at like 6 k or something plus I tip.
Pics: Breakfast at Versalles and dinner at Hacienda. And gratuitous pic of Diana (60 k+- over in Raudal street block) she had the prettiest face I saw last trip, must get a pic of her face next time![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2218842]
Anyway back on topic, US $200 seems way up there compared to other options beyond Lleras. I suspect the Gustos management collects a good bit of that kind of price.[/QUOTE]$200 at Gusto has been a scam for a while. I doubt management collects any. The girls use this when they see a guy drooling on them with google translate out on his phone. I've been to Gustos several times in the last couple of years and it was always like that. The chicas would even make jokes about it later.
One thing I did notice is the punters didn't negotiate at all. One drunk kid in his 20's was going on about paying for a girl for his buddy quite loudly: "I'll give her 200!
In any case, I've pulled from within Gusto back to my place for 200 k and so has my buddy when he was with me. You just have to stick to your guns and not pull super early in the night.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2218842]I am not in my right mind admittedly. Out of force of habit I normally have US $500 or so in my wallet at all times, wherever I am. I usually have about half that amount or so in local currency.[/QUOTE]I hope nobody in Medellin gangs reads ISG.
We both know reading ISG or not is not going to drive any bandit's decision about how to plan robberies. If the opportunity presents itself and it seems like an easy score, criminals tend to go for it. I take reasonable precautions to avoid becoming a target but shit happens. I'm convinced I've been lucky more than anything else. It helps to try to stay aware of your surroundings and the situation. It's a personal choice in the end. It's not worth it to me to change my routine so much over an amount of money I could lose without lasting impact.
I'm still not going to be handing any prepagos $200. LOL!
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2218996]I hope nobody in Medellin gangs reads ISG.[/QUOTE]
I went to Energy today at about 11:15 am. They had a line-up I thought would never stop, at least 20 ladies. Each lady comes in the presentation area and removes her smock and introduces herself with name and number. Their number is also on their smock. Almost every lady was smiling and upbeat. I recommend you have some way to make a note of the numbers you like. There were sizes from slim to chunky. I selected Wendy, a slim bright red haired lady. She was very bubbly, but had too many restrictions. Another one that would not do a BJ without a condom. Her BJ skills were not very good. I paid 150,000 for an hour. There were two older ladies who were managing everything. I thought they were the cleaning ladies because they were dressed like cleaning ladies rather than business ladies. The room was small, but comfortable, with hot water shower.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2218990]$200 at Gusto has been a scam for a while. I doubt management collects any. The girls use this when they see a guy drooling on them with google translate out on his phone. I've been to Gustos several times in the last couple of years and it was always like that. The chicas would even make jokes about it later.
One thing I did notice is the punters didn't negotiate at all. One drunk kid in his 20's was going on about paying for a girl for his buddy quite loudly: "I'll give her 200!
In any case, I've pulled from within Gusto back to my place for 200 k and so has my buddy when he was with me. You just have to stick to your guns and not pull super early in the night.[/QUOTE]The problem with this is most of us go on vacation only for a couple days. If you're taking about one of the true hot girls that's a must have and it's a busy night she's going to get her $200 and maybe even more. If it's a slow night she might be willing to come down.
I think it should be noted the reason Gustos is there for such a long time and girls continue to go there is obviously there is a market for their price.
If you're a local or stay in mde for many days or weeks at a time the time is there to haggle prices for others who are there for only a couple days if you find one you must have then you will pay the tourist price or close to it.
You can gamble hope she doesn't get pulled and at closing time I'm sure her price might go down.
What is the name of the local Spanish forum in Colombia (or Medellin)?
Thanks.
I did something crazy and at the last minute took the bus in rush hour. 30 min. There and 15 minutes. BackThank God I didn't get loss. I got dropped off a min. Walk from the door. Cra. 74 also called Ave Centario. Smoking hot lineup. 90% had nice butts. Blew the puerta off New Life. The lobby is nice and relaxing. I went around 6 pm. This place makes me want to return to MDE! Not quite Brazil but Colombian awesome. Not sure if there is 2 Wendys but the first chick was Wendy and she was in my top 3. The visit put a smile on my face even though I didn't session. My next trip I will give it a go. 150 k a HR.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2219011]I went to Energy today at about 11:15 am. They had a line-up I thought would never stop, at least 20 ladies. Each lady comes in the presentation area and removes her smock and introduces herself with name and number. Their number is also on their smock. Almost every lady was smiling and upbeat. I recommend you have some way to make a note of the numbers you like. There were sizes from slim to chunky. I selected Wendy, a slim bright red haired lady. She was very bubbly, but had too many restrictions. Another one that would not do a BJ without a condom. Her BJ skills were not very good. I paid 150,000 for an hour. There were two older ladies who were managing everything. I thought they were the cleaning ladies because they were dressed like cleaning ladies rather than business ladies. The room was small, but comfortable, with hot water shower.[/QUOTE]I'm admittedly not much of a casa guy.
But since I'm living within easy walking distance from Energy I have stopped in a few times.
I also picked Wendy but was turned off by her sagging little boobs and lack luster performance.
But hey it's a casa so I really can't complain.
I did have better luck with another chick in the place. Small tits but looked excellent naked and much more GFE than Wendy.
Got her facebook to keep in touch.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/natalia.gallego.583?fb_dtsg_ag=AdzySe0h4fagEwEzFVK1xOklG5CJ3D3UG0QvDf7rfkaUXg%3AAdxMeBy2sqDXaDo6ueVW0yxEMAr0KmmNpblCGC-L6R9AZw[/URL]
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219058]I'm admittedly not much of a casa guy.
But since I'm living within easy walking distance from Energy I have stopped in a few times.
I also picked Wendy but was turned off by her sagging little boobs and lack luster performance.
But hey it's a casa so I really can't complain.
I did have better luck with another chick in the place. Small tits but looked excellent naked and much more GFE than Wendy.
Got her facebook to keep in touch.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/natalia.gallego.583?fb_dtsg_ag=AdzySe0h4fagEwEzFVK1xOklG5CJ3D3UG0QvDf7rfkaUXg%3AAdxMeBy2sqDXaDo6ueVW0yxEMAr0KmmNpblCGC-L6R9AZw[/URL][/QUOTE]Casas in Medellíand used to rock!!
I'm talking like 15 years ago haha, when a Gringo was scarce, LOL.
Now with the internet and FB dating, the scene has died considerably.
Did a Casa run the other day with a visiting buddy, damn sad.
Hit maybe 7 casas, not one that interested me.
I can't blame the chicas, what hot one would want to sit around all day, making presentations, and making so little money, when they can just Tinder themselves and or get in on the Facebook circuit, or hit Gustos and mingle with the gringo bobos, LOL.
Can't blame them at all.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2218990]$200 at Gusto has been a scam for a while. I doubt management collects any. The girls use this when they see a guy drooling on them with google translate out on his phone. I've been to Gustos several times in the last couple of years and it was always like that. The chicas would even make jokes about it later.
One thing I did notice is the punters didn't negotiate at all. One drunk kid in his 20's was going on about paying for a girl for his buddy quite loudly: "I'll give her 200!
In any case, I've pulled from within Gusto back to my place for 200 k and so has my buddy when he was with me. You just have to stick to your guns and not pull super early in the night.[/QUOTE]Dude I've met a few girls recently, in both Centro and on the Mayo that laugh about the dumb gringos that over pay at Gustos and in and about Lleras.
I've paid 50 k for what some schmuck paid $200 US for the night before, LOL.
And I probably got a better lay because of a better connection, spanish speaker, etc.
I'm nothing particularly special, but a bobo I'm not, LOL.
And I really dont care what another guy pays, its his grana $.
From Medellin to Rio, to SP Brazil, the girls work both sides of the spectrum.
In the PFP, the “you get what you pay for”, is often times inverse.
The blatant misconception Gusto has the hottest girls. The girls at Fase Dos blew them away. A Venezuelan tout took me to a no cover club near Pub with the red Cadillac and they had hotter chicks in there. Wasted my 20 k. Plus I saw a chick on the Centro circuit for 50 k before she entered Gusto. Her and her amiga wanted 50 k each. Not sure what the tall bald guy gave them in Gusto. Some may argue its easy. Please! There were hot available women all over the park. Guys kill me with the overpriced club fascination. The street chick promise double the actual time you will receive. If she promises a HR. Be thankful you get 30 minutes. 40 minutes. Expect a knock in 20 unless she taps out beforehand.
Hi,
I have been lurking for a while (just arrived in Mde) and have gotten many great intelligence from you guys.
I'm staying in el poblado in an apartment provided by my company, as you can see it is a bit inconvenient to bring chicks over.
Do you recommend any short term hotel / motel near el poblado?
Which are your favorite love motels in the city?
Hope to be helpful and provide good reports!
Have fun!
They definitely get dolled up to be in there. Truth be told, Gustos and places like it are all about convenience. It's not hard but it does take time to build contacts and get to know a few reliable providers. I think facebook is the fastest way to do it at a lot less than half the price of Gustos type places.
Casas are of course quick and cheap but the quality isn't as high as other options. Of course for 50 K or less, how much quality can anybody expect? It's good for a quick pop. You can usually find a decent looking girl or two at most casas. The energy / tantra vs centro difference is more in cost than quality, especially now that very few Centro places try to get away with cold water and dingy rooms. The last time I was in Energy it was starting to look a little worn.
[QUOTE=Cool;2219164]The blatant misconception Gusto has the hottest girls. The girls at Fase Dos blew them away. A Venezuelan tout took me to a no cover club near Pub with the red Cadillac and they had hotter chicks in there. Wasted my 20 k. Plus I saw a chick on the Centro circuit for 50 k before she entered Gusto. Her and her amiga wanted 50 k each. Not sure what the tall bald guy gave them in Gusto. Some may argue its easy. Please! There were hot available women all over the park. Guys kill me with the overpriced club fascination. The street chick promise double the actual time you will receive. If she promises a HR. Be thankful you get 30 minutes. 40 minutes. Expect a knock in 20 unless she taps out beforehand.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cool;2219164]The blatant misconception Gusto has the hottest girls. The girls at Fase Dos blew them away. A Venezuelan tout took me to a no cover club near Pub with the red Cadillac and they had hotter chicks in there. Wasted my 20 k. Plus I saw a chick on the Centro circuit for 50 k before she entered Gusto. Her and her amiga wanted 50 k each. Not sure what the tall bald guy gave them in Gusto. Some may argue its easy. Please! There were hot available women all over the park. Guys kill me with the overpriced club fascination. The street chick promise double the actual time you will receive. If she promises a HR. Be thankful you get 30 minutes. 40 minutes. Expect a knock in 20 unless she taps out beforehand.[/QUOTE]I have the same opine, in my 4 or 5 visits over the past 5 plus years in this club I have never taken a Gusto chica out, they do not have the hottest girls, never had and never will. They are counting on the gringo in town for just a few days and is hard up with maybe a few drinks in them (lowers the gringos judgement) and then they are available, a very opportunistic state of mind.
I believe I have picked up one girl from Gusto early morning AFTER CLUBS CLOSED and if I recall pay 150 mil.
To each his own.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2219017]The problem with this is most of us go on vacation only for a couple days. If you're taking about one of the true hot girls that's a must have and it's a busy night she's going to get her $200 and maybe even more. If it's a slow night she might be willing to come down.
I think it should be noted the reason Gustos is there for such a long time and girls continue to go there is obviously there is a market for their price.
If you're a local or stay in mde for many days or weeks at a time the time is there to haggle prices for others who are there for only a couple days if you find one you must have then you will pay the tourist price or close to it.
You can gamble hope she doesn't get pulled and at closing time I'm sure her price might go down.[/QUOTE]I understand the problem new guys face coming down to Colombia for just a few days at a time, especially when they don't speak much Spanish.
The best place for a newbie to go is the Mansion. Because you learn a price point that gives you a decent looking girl with an above average experience for most guys.
You see how other guys are treated by the women and what you might expect to receive from the chicks you hook up with. Some times guy learn a hard lesson about where they are on the food chain. Because a lot of women don't treat all guys the same.
You'll learn whether or not you are a casa guy. If you go to the Mansion and don't get any better service than at a casa. Well that pretty much makes you a casa guy. Because casas are less expensive than chicks at the Mansion.
If girls at the Mansion treat you well and don't mine going out in public with you then you will probably want to move up to facebook chicks and maybe find a few that you what to stay with you for days or weeks at a time (wifeing up) as they say.
And then you have guys that really aren't interested in women outside of sex. Those guys have it the easiest. All they have to do is find a chick that turns them at a price they can easily afford. Who cares if she is staring at the wall the whole time you are banging her. Jajaja.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2219092]Casas in Medelland used to rock!!
I'm talking like 15 years ago haha, when a Gringo was scarce, LOL.
Now with the internet and FB dating, the scene has died considerably.
Did a Casa run the other day with a visiting buddy, damn sad.
Hit maybe 7 casas, not one that interested me.
I can't blame the chicas, what hot one would want to sit around all day, making presentations, and making so little money, when they can just Tinder themselves and or get in on the Facebook circuit, or hit Gustos and mingle with the gringo bobos, LOL.
Can't blame them at all.[/QUOTE]Well you stated it perfectly. All the electronic stuff has really hurt the serious Monger. The new tourist thinks it is great (especially if he is the lazy type) as they have no history with MDE. Reading the forum while useful is not having history.
[QUOTE=ClusterK;2219291]Hi,
I have been lurking for a while (just arrived in Mde) and have gotten many great intelligence from you guys.
I'm staying in el poblado in an apartment provided by my company, as you can see it is a bit inconvenient to bring chicks over.
Do you recommend any short term hotel / motel near el poblado?
Which are your favorite love motels in the city?
Hope to be helpful and provide good reports!
Have fun![/QUOTE]I can't help with short-term hotels near Poblado but I used two motels that were within walking distance of my apartment while staying in Laureles.
The first one is called Hotel Aloha Suite. It is where, I am assuming, the students from a local university that is across the street go. Anyway you see many young people coming and going into the hotel. The address is Carrera 66 be No 34 be -14. I paid between 28,000 pesos and 40,000 pesos for 3 hours depending on day and whether or not I had a discount card.
The nicer one and the one I would recommend is called Thematic Luxury Suites. It is located at Calle 33 No. 64-94. It is across the street from Luna Lunera. I paid between 28,000 and 52,000 pesos for 3 hours depending on day and discount.
One warning is that your chica is probably going to want something from the minibar like a Smirnov Ice so add 20,000 pesos.
You can play music as loud as you want. You don't have to worry about neighbors thinking you're a sleazebag running multiple chicas up to your room. You can use massage oil and screw up the sheets without worrying about washing and changing them the next day. For a guy who likes to stay low on the radar I really like this option if you doing the Facebook, Agency and Tinder scene.
I developed a little kit to take to the room. Two extra towels, feminine hygiene soap, body wash, vibrators, massage oil, lube, toothpaste, mouthwash and toothbrushes. The vibrating toothbrushes can have a duel purpose. The chicas like to keep them as a souvenir.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/HOTEL-ALOHA-SUITE-1139577412757836/[/URL]
[URL]http://thematicluxury.com/[/URL]
Final night in MDE I decided to head out to La Isla see what was going on. Grabbed a drink and didn't see anything I liked. It was closing time on a Tuesday and there was an after party that closed at 6 am literally right next door. A lot more girls walked in I'm assuming it was the girls from Fase Dos and Gustos since they close at 2 as well on a Tuesday. Party was nothing special had a few drinks but decided not to pull anything.
Next morning woke up went to Energy Casa and pulled #61 don't remember her name but nice session BBBJCIM finish was fun. 150 k+50 k tip.
So I spent 6 days in MDE and had a blast when it came to the sex. Had a nice 3 some a great tln session a couple facebook girls.
Conclusion.
This was my 4th trip to Colombia in 6 months. Stayed an average of 5 days each time. Twice each in Bogota and Medellin.
Here is my opinion and thoughts. I have only seen 2 girls that I would consider a solid 9.
Overall the hottest girls of all my trips is Lidos in Bogota and the top 3 or 4 girls at Gustos.
Facebook girls are ok but I see why they are only 150-200 k and the really hot ones are flakey and will answer me back days later.
Regardless of what anyone says here mongering is the same as it is anywhere in any country.
Yes if you live here or spend a lot of time here you will find a gem here and there but the truth is the really hot model type girls who don't have baby damage or too much plastic aint doing the things I want for 150 k-200 k on a regular basis.
Hot girls know they are hot and know they can get more. Yes its possible to catch them on a bad week where they need $$ and even develop a connection with them so on and so on but its not the norm.
I see people here like to make fun of guys overpaying for their good time but guess what? Would you rather be the one holding the winning lottery ticket or would you rather be the one hoping to hit the lottery.
As in life with anything if you're willing to spend a little more your going to get more.
I have had escorts who charged 500 an hour for $100 at times but doesn't mean itll be the norm because she has her clients that do pay 500 so when they come calling are they going to want to see me or see them.
My advice for newbies who are tourists and just want to be safe and have fun and aren't as tight on the budget is just make sure you get everything you want in the bedroom and negotiate beforehand. Be a gentleman about it even if you have to ask may I bust my nut on your face theres a nice way to ask.
This board has been a tremendous help and I thank those that have contributed so I can navigate my own way of using the info to have my fun.
At the end of the day I decide places like Sante Fe in Bogota or Centro in MDE are not places I need to go when I'm relaxing on vacation.
But that's just my lifestyle and my choices but to each their own.
I'm sure those living here or spending most of their time in Colombia have different experiences but I don't think under any circumstances should you make fun of someone for spending too much on a girl.
You can either be helpful about it or just don't say nothing at all cause when you start using names or giving your one or 2 experiences on how you scored pussy for cheap it just shows hate and jealousy. Like the guy who can't afford the bmw so decides to say bmws are a waste of money when a Hyundai drives better. Don't be that guy.
Everything you mentioned guys can get if they RTFF- except face time with other gringo punters. You would have to go to the Gringo Inn for that if you are too shy to strike up a conversation with guys in Juan Valdez at Lleras or Avenida Poblado. Look for cargo shorts and loud voices. If you come for girls there are plenty of them on facebook and you don't need Spanish to make dates with them but it's easier of course if you can read and write Spanish without online translation. I think you can set facebook to auto translate. I get your drift about willing to be seen in public with. With only a few days at a time to spare, it's pretty hard to get beyond conjugal visit mode in any case.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219338]I understand the problem new guys face coming down to Colombia for just a few days at a time, especially when they don't speak much Spanish.
The best place for a newbie to go is the Mansion. Because you learn a price point that gives you a decent looking girl with an above average experience for most guys.
You see how other guys are treated by the women and what you might expect to receive from the chicks you hook up with. Some times guy learn a hard lesson about where they are on the food chain. Because a lot of women don't treat all guys the same.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for a non-chicas post, but if you're contemplating a trip from and. America to MDE (or probably any city in Colombia), Copa airlines has some great prices at the moment. I just paid $371 Chi-MDE round trip in December, which is about as low as I've seen over the years.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2219412]Everything you mentioned guys can get if they RTFF- except face time with other gringo punters. You would have to go to the Gringo Inn for that if you are too shy to strike up a conversation with guys in Juan Valdez at Lleras or Avenida Poblado. Look for cargo shorts and loud voices. If you come for girls there are plenty of them on facebook and you don't need Spanish to make dates with them but it's easier of course if you can read and write Spanish without online translation. I think you can set facebook to auto translate. I get your drift about willing to be seen in public with. With only a few days at a time to spare, it's pretty hard to get beyond conjugal visit mode in any case.[/QUOTE]I don't see much on this board that is going to help a newbie much when it comes finding and meeting many of the hotter prepagos on Facebook.
I have probably spent a couple thousand hours over the years cultivating and honing a friends list of the hottest pros and.
Semi pros Medellin has to offer.
I have been know to throw newbies a bone by posting some of the better known prepagos on here or other forums but I'm sure not going to give away my A list especially the few that don't know any other gringos than myself.
And I don't really see anyone else giving away their lists either.
It just takes too much time and work to just give away.
How much in your opinion is it in USD for a 7-8/10 Pro in Medellin vs a 7-8/10 pro in any major you. S city you are familiar with (on average)?
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2219367]Well you stated it perfectly. All the electronic stuff has really hurt the serious Monger. The new tourist thinks it is great (especially if he is the lazy type) as they have no history with MDE. Reading the forum while useful is not having history.[/QUOTE]Sure back in the day there may have been hotter women in the casas overall than there is today.
But was the monger scene really better?
I much prefer Facebook chicas. The come over and hang out during the day or spend the night.
You fuck them in your own bed on your own time schedule. You get to know them and build some rapport with them.
Casa chicas are just some chick spreading her legs so you can get a nut. You don't know them and they don't know you.
Plenty are probably counting the minutes until you can get off of them. Jajaja.
I mean I'm not knocking it. I've done it myself when I'm really bored. It's kind of like jacking off but inside of chick instead of your hand. LOL!
Bottom line is, it sure isn't as nice as fucking your favor facebook chicas.
Hey fellas,
A few days ago, I passed along some information about Divini Women that was given to me by an American expat friend living in Medellin. I told my friend that the reaction to his information on ISG was positive, and as a result, he has graciously passed along some additional information about mongering-related places he has visited in Medellin. I have attached his pictures to this report, and hopefully I have attached them correctly. For easier reference, I have given each one of his pictures a name. His specific comments (in quotation marks) he had for the pictures are as follows:
Momentos Suites: "Best love motel in Medellin central."
Zandaly: "Zandaly has a bar and charges 3000 to see the line up if you don't buy a drink. Same as New life. Not many people know about this place, all college girls."
Boston Real: "Excellent A/C small refrigerator, very clean."
Prisma Suite: "This was the best one many have jacuzzi for maybe a couple bucks more. Every room had a different theme, Hard Rock, Spanish, College etc. I took the owner of Divine Women there yesterday."
He also said:
"By the way the restaurant next door to New Life is excellent, we had dinner for two drinks juice and soda soup salad the bill was 32,000 that's less than $11 for everything, amazing place."
One final thing: After I made the post about Divini Women, I got a few private messages from mongers asking if my American expat friend is willing to act as a guide for mongering activities in Medellin. Unfortunately at this time, he is not available to act as a guide, but if any of you have questions, I can pass them along to him to see if he'll provide an answer.
Hope some of you find this new information helpful. Apologies if I've simply regurgitated old information that mongers have known about for years.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219454]I don't see much on this board that is going to help a newbie much when it comes finding and meeting many of the hotter prepagos on Facebook.[/QUOTE]Probably because getting a hooker is not brain surgery. "Bich I got money; come get some," is all it really takes.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219479]I much prefer Facebook chicas. The come over and hang out during the day or spend the night.
You fuck them in your own bed on your own time schedule. You get to know them and build some rapport with them.
Casa chicas are just some chick spreading her legs so you can get a nut. You don't know them and they don't know you.
Plenty are probably counting the minutes until you can get off of them. Jajaja.[/QUOTE]That is fantasy talk. The reality is that neither of them would be there if you were not giving them money. It is the same as all of us at our jobs. Our bosses could brag how we always come in early and stay late and bla bla bla, but they must know we are only doing it for the money no? Let's see how long that lasts when the paycheck stops coming in.
For me, it is normal free chicks that I want to hang out and build relationships with. I don't need that from a hooker. Normal chicks serve an all-around Sunday dinner purpose. Hookers are comida rapida for me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219505]
Probably because getting a hooker is not brain surgery. "Bich I got money; come get some," is all it really takes.
.[/QUOTE]I think you can probably safely post your facebook friends list for the newbies without fear of losing any hard won conquests.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219505]
That is fantasy talk. The reality is that neither of them would be there if you were not giving them money.
[/QUOTE]I have met guys before that I'm pretty sure couldn't tell a bad lay from a good one. All they knew and all that mattered to them was that they some how got their dicks wet.
[QUOTE=ClusterK;2219291]Hi,
I have been lurking for a while (just arrived in Mde) and have gotten many great intelligence from you guys.
I'm staying in el poblado in an apartment provided by my company, as you can see it is a bit inconvenient to bring chicks over.
Do you recommend any short term hotel / motel near el poblado?
Which are your favorite love motels in the city?
Hope to be helpful and provide good reports!
Have fun![/QUOTE]Motel Las Cabanas is the only short term motel I know of in Poblado. The best is Motel Ibiza. About 9 k by taxi from Poblado. Rooms run close to 100 k for 6 hours. Every room has jacuzzi tub, big shower, stripper pole, nice music system, flat screen TV with 3 porn channels and a fully stocked mini bar. There are plenty of cheap short term motel in Mayorista and El Centro. Not any place I would take a girl too, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2219367]Well you stated it perfectly. All the electronic stuff has really hurt the serious Monger. The new tourist thinks it is great (especially if he is the lazy type) as they have no history with MDE. Reading the forum while useful is not having history.[/QUOTE]And the internal combustion engine killed the buggy industry.
I've always been an old school guy. A programmer I worked with years ago called me a command line junkie, because I preferred typing in code to point and click or drag and drop. So I can see your point. My programs were compact and robust. They took more work, but provided better products. The world didn't care. It kept right on moving forward.
The old MDE is still there. In fact, many of the old prepagos will be happy to see you and they'll charge a lot less.
Like anything else, you get out of mongering what you put into it. Sure there are plenty of new mongers paying double and getting half, and most are thrilled. It only affects you if you want to go that route.
I use the electronic stuff as tools. I could buy a few books, memorize them and get information on a city that's 10 years old, or I can whip out my phone and get information that was updated yesterday. I could go to places where working girls are known to congregate, or I can post a picture of me standing in front of a Medellin landmark. Either way I can attract the attention of girls who want my money. I'm still the one who has to choose. I'm using the same selection process, I'm just using it sitting in one place, rather than walking place to place.
The electronic stuff only affects the entry level monger. He can get up and running much easier, but he's still going to make rookie mistakes. We see that here every week.
With one WhatsApp message and the price of a taxi, a bottle and 50 k I can be sitting in a normal bar while someone brings over 30 different women and introduces them to me. Or, if I'm looking for something particular, within 30 minutes I've got 2 dozen options all waiting for my decision.
As for having history with MDE, or any other city, every monger starts out with no history. Old days, you hear rumors. Maybe a friend of a friend has talked about it, but you show up knowing next to nothing. The hotel isn't what you expected. You're trying to use a phrase book with the taxi driver and the places he takes you to aren't what you're looking for. Eventually you figure the city out, although dozens get robbed or even killed before they get that history.
Perhaps that's better for you. It meant, when you finally found your way around, there was no competition. You could pay 5 times the local rate and get treated like a rock star. But the world keeps changing. You may as well complain about the lack of horse and buggy traffic.
Or, you can embrace it. You know the old school stuff. Add the internet and you can climb right back to the top of the food chain.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219479]Sure back in the day there may have been hotter women in the casas overall than there is today.
But was the monger scene really any better? [/QUOTE]The casa Chicas were definitely much better quality, no "may have been" about it.
You're right though, the monger scene wasn't better, just different.
You could tour the Casas and find beauties that had never seen a foreigner before and set up hook ups away from the casa.
It was nice being exotic and different, and the girls were generally very curious and interested in meeting the "gringo" LOL.
Not quite like that anymore in Medellin.
Times change though of course, and you go with the flow.
Facebook hookups seem like the main source these days.
I personally haven't jumped into the FB scene.
I still walk about, hit clubs, strip clubs, bars, little cafes, etc looking for the connection with a sweet Paisa.
Works for me anyway 😉
A wise an experienced hobbysist told me long a go that fantasy is a big part of the game but you never want to confuse fantasy with reality. The reality of facebook vs. Casa etc is facebook girls are collecting more than 300% what they collect or collected (yes, some facebook girls were or are also casa girls) at casas. Of course they will sit around with us to drink our liquor and eat our food in exchange for telling us how much fun we are to be with. I'm generalizing of course.
Anyway, back to the instruction guide topic. I think the facebook tactics are very well detailed in these pages. As mr. International said, it's not rocket science. Known providers are listed here and elsewhere, mine their friends list and you will find many others. You can even ask them if they are willing to "hang out all day" if that's what you want to do. I recommend you get to know them on a short date before making any bigger commitments. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219505]Probably because getting a hooker is not brain surgery. "Bich I got money; come get some," is all it really takes.
That is fantasy talk. The reality is that neither of them would be there if you were not giving them money. It is the same as all of us at our jobs. Our bosses could brag how we always come in early and stay late and bla bla bla, but they must know we are only doing it for the money no? Let's see how long that lasts when the paycheck stops coming in.
For me, it is normal free chicks that I want to hang out and build relationships with. I don't need that from a hooker. Normal chicks serve an all-around Sunday dinner purpose. Hookers are comida rapida for me.[/QUOTE]
OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days. Driving seems intimidating for a newbie in Medellin. So are you litterally getting dropped off in the hood and walking up and down the streets to meet them? Then hailing another cab to go home? Are you pulling up in a cab and telling the driver to circle the block a few times until you find her? Then having them drive you two back? How does a guy find street walkers outside of the major parks and pick them up if he has no car? What's the proven method?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219505]Probably because getting a hooker is not brain surgery. "Bich I got money; come get some," is all it really takes.[/QUOTE]Being a john is not brain surgery, homie: money is all it takes. Really.
Energy may have (some) prettier girls than New Life and the environment in Energy definitely is nicer catorirng to the american tourists. But the price in Energy is on the high side for Medellin. I was there once and agree it has nicer rooms and the girls are slightly better but you are paying gringo prices for them. Doubt any local or anyone that can speak some spanish would go there as the price is much higher than New Life and you can also get room service from Facebook girls for the same price.
[QUOTE=Cool;2219045]I did something crazy and at the last minute took the bus in rush hour. 30 min. There and 15 minutes. BackThank God I didn't get loss. I got dropped off a min. Walk from the door. Cra. 74 also called Ave Centario. Smoking hot lineup. 90% had nice butts. Blew the puerta off New Life. The lobby is nice and relaxing. I went around 6 pm. This place makes me want to return to MDE! Not quite Brazil but Colombian awesome. Not sure if there is 2 Wendys but the first chick was Wendy and she was in my top 3. The visit put a smile on my face even though I didn't session. My next trip I will give it a go. 150 k a HR.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Balboa;2219092]Casas in Medelland used to rock!!
I'm talking like 15 years ago haha, when a Gringo was scarce, LOL.
Now with the internet and FB dating, the scene has died considerably.
Did a Casa run the other day with a visiting buddy, damn sad.
Hit maybe 7 casas, not one that interested me.
I can't blame the chicas, what hot one would want to sit around all day, making presentations, and making so little money, when they can just Tinder themselves and or get in on the Facebook circuit, or hit Gustos and mingle with the gringo bobos, LOL.
Can't blame them at all.[/QUOTE]Facebook has changed and destroyed the hobby as far as I am concerned. Sure its great for the socially awkward, weird looking, over weight monger. Spend 1000's of hours "cultivating", who wants to do that. I don't have time for that. Then even after you hit up the girls you are waiting on them. They almost always come late or sometimes not at all from what I have seen. Then all they do now when they are with you or* are out is stay on facebook. * For the normal guy who could manage face to face interactions and the type of guy the girls would go out in public with and actually enjoy themselves facebook sucks. Now the girls don't have to go out anymore they can stay home so for the normal guys there are less girls to interact with and they also don't have any motivation anymore. They know several losers that couldn't handle any real first encounter are hitting them up on facebook and will cater to their schedule.
Yea I hate facebook and mongering mixed I just don't see how its not advantage to the girls. Its just dried up the talent in places and driven up costs but mongers will always do destructive things.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2219642]
Facebook hookups seem like the main source these days.
I personally haven't jumped into the FB scene.
I still walk about, hit clubs, strip clubs, bars, little cafes, etc looking for the connection with a sweet Paisa.
Works for me anyway 😉[/QUOTE]That's the way I did it 15 years ago also.
I was always much better at meeting women in person and making a connection that way.
Pretty easy to tell of a woman is into you when she is right in front of you. And I seemed to attract more women in person. I was terrible on Colombian Cupid.
And then about 5 years ago I hit Medellin and the mongering scene.
Got on to facebook and never looked back. I kind of use it as a squeeze page of sorts.
I just put some good pics of myself and a dozen or so pics of myself with other young attractive women out at clubs or at a nice restaurant. Even posted a few pics of me with my newborn baby. Any normal woman would block me after seeing my Facebook page. jajaja
But prepagos flock to it.
The real upside to facebook is the women are picking you as well.
When you go to a casa the women have pretty much resigned themselves to fucking whoever walks in the door regardless and it is fairly hard to get anything approaching a GFE. And when I do I make sure to get her contact information.
[QUOTE=Doker44;2219689]Facebook has changed and destroyed the hobby as far as I am concerned. Sure its great for the socially awkward, weird looking, over weight monger. Spend 1000's of hours "cultivating", who wants to do that. I don't have time for that. Then even after you hit up the girls you are waiting on them. They almost always come late or sometimes not at all from what I have seen. Then all they do now when they are with you or* are out is stay on facebook. * For the normal guy who could manage face to face interactions and the type of guy the girls would go out in public with and actually enjoy themselves facebook sucks. Now the girls don't have to go out anymore they can stay home so for the normal guys there are less girls to interact with and they also don't have any motivation anymore. They know several losers that couldn't handle any real first encounter are hitting them up on facebook and will cater to their schedule.
Yea I hate facebook and mongering mixed I just don't see how its not advantage to the girls. Its just dried up the talent in places and driven up costs but mongers will always do destructive things.[/QUOTE]It does take time and sometimes quite a bit of chatting with a girl that doesn't sell her ass much to finally get the nerve to come over. I have broken down and made lunch dates with a few to break the ice before getting them back to my place. But I find that it is well worth the effort and leads to a much better bedroom experience IMHO.
Walk them to a short term hotel.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2219659]OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days. Driving seems intimidating for a newbie in Medellin. So are you litterally getting dropped off in the hood and walking up and down the streets to meet them? Then hailing another cab to go home? Are you pulling up in a cab and telling the driver to circle the block a few times until you find her? Then having them drive you two back? How does a guy find street walkers outside of the major parks and pick them up if he has no car? What's the proven method?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2219659]OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days.[/QUOTE]It has been talked about plenty. I guess the older guys have taken it for granted because we know the routine. Most of the time the SW is standing in front of, next to, or a short walk from a hotel that you will pay about 10K to use. So you can just get them while you are on foot.
I have gotten them in various countries while in a taxi though. I don't remember who posted about having the buddy that drives the taxi. He took him over to Calle 45 to pick up a chick and he was in the back of the taxi riding around getting his dick sucked. That was so funny to me.
Reminded me of when I was in college and I met a freak that worked at Taco Bell while I was there for lunch one day. She was mixed, with a mom from Guam because her dad was in the military (and really strict I remember). I was on my roommate's bed (my blowup mattress was in the dining room) fucking her when he got home and came in his room and saw and called next. I remember him shouting out, "Oooh I am next. I am definitely next." So I talked her into fucking him too. We all finished up when another roommate who is an Air Force colonel now came home. He wanted to ride with me to take her home. So he is in the back seat of my other roommate's Ford Escort fucking her while I am driving across town to take her home. Yeah she got home by 10 as her dad demanded, but she had 3 dicks in the process. I have had a crazy ass life.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219690]When you go to a casa the women have pretty much resigned themselves to fucking whoever walks in the door regardless and it is fairly hard to get anything approaching a GFE. And when I do I make sure to get her contact information.[/QUOTE]I never have a problem getting GFE at the downtown casas. Now when I took a chick at Fase 2, I was not impressed though. I don't much know the names of casas, but we were at one where you walk upstairs and then there is a bar in a big room. Maybe Mona Lisa or something. Well this chick was literally hiding under the bar because she thought some customer was coming that she did not want to go with. That was so damn funny. We clowned the shit out of her.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219739]I never have a problem getting GFE at the downtown casas. Now when I took a chick at Fase 2, I was not impressed though. I don't much know the names of casas, but we were at one where you walk upstairs and then there is a bar in a big room. Maybe Mona Lisa or something. Well this chick was literally hiding under the bar because she thought some customer was coming that she did not want to go with. That was so damn funny. We clowned the shit out of her.[/QUOTE]I guess it is possible to get a GFE at a downtown casa.
But I find very few women that I would actually pay to have sex with in the downtown casas. Most aren't any better looking than my maid.
So I'm not exactly going to be sticky my tough in their mouths to see if they like DFKing.
Jajaja.
I might go to the cento casas one or twice a year to see what the bottom looks like but that is it.
But I do envy guys that can get off on the scene.
It would make my life much easier if I could go to a casa and find something that could satisfy me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219735]
I have gotten them in various countries while in a taxi though. I don't remember who posted about having the buddy that drives the taxi. He took him over to Calle 45 to pick up a chick and he was in the back of the taxi riding around getting his dick sucked. That was so funny to me..[/QUOTE]It was not CL 45 but it must be me. I may need some time to find reports here, but it could be fun to read them after years.
The story was a bit more complex than that. First, I did that more than once. Second, the time it was most interesting, I was in the back with a messy girl picked from the street in Centro and the driver (someone who after few nights venturing around Medellin was kind of my friend) had his girlfriend sitting at right. He asked me if he could picking up his girlfriend from some place in Centro at midnight, and I said "of course. It will be more fun for both".
The girlfriend was saying bad words to him (jokingly) because he was aroused looking at the girl sucking my dick ("Atrevido!! Mira lo tienes duro!
By a wide margin, most of the customers at Energy and every other casa or venue are Colombian with one glaring exception. The Gringo Inn.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2219681]Energy may have (some) prettier girls than New Life and the environment in Energy definitely is nicer catorirng to the american tourists. But the price in Energy is on the high side for Medellin. I was there once and agree it has nicer rooms and the girls are slightly better but you are paying gringo prices for them. Doubt any local or anyone that can speak some spanish would go there as the price is much higher than New Life and you can also get room service from Facebook girls for the same price..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2219659]OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days. Driving seems intimidating for a newbie in Medellin. So are you litterally getting dropped off in the hood and walking up and down the streets to meet them? Then hailing another cab to go home? Are you pulling up in a cab and telling the driver to circle the block a few times until you find her? Then having them drive you two back? How does a guy find street walkers outside of the major parks and pick them up if he has no car? What's the proven method?[/QUOTE]Forget that, until you are really acquainted with the place. Forget to walk around looking for girls at night in Centro. Forget to rent a car for that. I really want to discourage you to try anything like that. Risks are not worth.
The progression could be:
1) Daytime, in Centro around Veracruz.
2) Nighttime, with a taxi. PLEASE NOTE THAT NOT ALL TAXI DRIVERS MAY BE KEEN TO DO THAT. So, first challenge is to find a suitable driver. How did I? And how do I, if I don't have one of the drivers from my list?
Lots of 6th sense in talking to the driver on a short ride, to sense his attitude and expertise in venturing night areas, before probing waters somehow discretely and ask if he would be happy to have some adventure together. Good Spanish is a must and knowledge of the areas is a must, IMHO.
Hey tell your friend to keep the info coming. Zandaly is pretty well known. It is on every map I've seen. I don't know about the college thing but they usually have a couple of good lookers in the mix. They also keep Sunday hours consistently. A few places. Including Diviniwomen. Advertise Sunday / holiday hours but don't always open.
I've heard a lot of good reports about momentos love hotel. I'm surprised more guys who stay in Poblado don't use the place to bring girls or rest and shower between casa visits. I've never been but several trusted sources tell me it's a winner.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2219486]Hey fellas,
A few days ago, I passed along some information about Divini Women that was given to me by an American expat friend living in Medellin. I told my friend that the reaction to his information on ISG was positive, and as a result, he has graciously passed along some additional information about mongering-related places he has visited in Medellin. I have attached his pictures to this report, and hopefully I have attached them correctly. For easier reference, I have given each one of his pictures a name. His specific comments (in quotation marks) he had for the pictures are as follows:
Momentos Suites: "Best love motel in Medellin central."
Zandaly: "Zandaly has a bar and charges 3000 to see the line up if you don't buy a drink. Same as New life. Not many people know about this place, all college girls."
Boston Real: "Excellent A/C small refrigerator, very clean.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2219659]OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days. Driving seems intimidating for a newbie in Medellin. So are you litterally getting dropped off in the hood and walking up and down the streets to meet them? Then hailing another cab to go home? Are you pulling up in a cab and telling the driver to circle the block a few times until you find her? Then having them drive you two back? How does a guy find street walkers outside of the major parks and pick them up if he has no car? What's the proven method?[/QUOTE]You're trying to bring the US to Colombia. It doesn't work like that, although I've seen a few guys try.
If you're taking a taxi, have them drop you off at Plaza Botero. From there it's a short walk to where you'll find the women. Once you find them you'll probably panic, because there will probably be a few cops standing around. At least you'll see them during daylight hours. You probably don't want to go there after dark. Not until you get some experience.
You'll find all kinds of girls and most will be standing in front of the entrance to a short time place. You make the deal, go to the room and do the deed. If you're staying in a nice place, you might not want to bring one of those girls back with you. If you decide to take one with you, just flag down a taxi.
Is there a place I can go to get a current list of most of the casas? After going through the forum and trying to find the addresses with google, I've only found the address for 3.
Divini.
Cra. 43 #55-49.
Energy.
Cra. 74 #49-101.
New Life.
Around CL. 56?
Any help with casas would be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Doker44;2219689]Facebook has changed and destroyed the hobby as far as I am concerned. Sure its great for the socially awkward, weird looking, over weight monger. Spend 1000's of hours "cultivating", who wants to do that. I don't have time for that. Then even after you hit up the girls you are waiting on them. They almost always come late or sometimes not at all from what I have seen. Then all they do now when they are with you or* are out is stay on facebook. * For the normal guy who could manage face to face interactions and the type of guy the girls would go out in public with and actually enjoy themselves facebook sucks. Now the girls don't have to go out anymore they can stay home so for the normal guys there are less girls to interact with and they also don't have any motivation anymore. They know several losers that couldn't handle any real first encounter are hitting them up on facebook and will cater to their schedule.
Yea I hate facebook and mongering mixed I just don't see how its not advantage to the girls. Its just dried up the talent in places and driven up costs but mongers will always do destructive things.[/QUOTE]You must be absolutely gorgeous!
Seriously, why even monger? Leave paying for sex to all of us socially awkward, weird looking, overweight mongers.
I've seen mongers that fit all 3 of your stereotypes, who don't use Facebook at all. I've seen others who are fit, suave and extremely handsome, who only use Facebook. Granted, they probably aren't as perfect as you, but I've seen them turn a lot of heads.
Me? I'm one of those losers. Just can't handle any first encounter, especially looking as weird as I do. Sometimes I look in the mirror and even scare myself. Hell, I'm so socially awkward that I get flustered trying to apologise to myself for scaring myself.
Time to be serious. If a woman you found on Facebook is on Facebook when she's with you, that's on you. If you're so entertaining, why can't you keep their attention? I never have had that problem. Most of the girls never touch their phone until it's time to leave. Most of the time, time to leave was whenever I decided it was time for them to go.
Who spends 1000's of hours on Facebook. It took me a few hours to find 50 girls. 15 minutes a day is about what it took to add 5 to 10 more each day. Over a year I've put 20-30 hours into Facebook and have about 300 options. That's not counting friends and cousins and even sisters.
Picking one is even easier. I've never had to ask more than 3 girls to find one happy to meet my schedule. Granted, most show up 30 minutes late. The only date who never showed up was one that I met at the bar she worked at. Set up to come over on her day off and was a no show.
Yes. Facebook is an advantage to the girls. That's why they use it. The problem isn't that all us ogres are using Facebook. We're just smart enough to use the best tools to get the best results. The problem is that the girls are smart enough to know that using Facebook works out better for them. Why go to a bar, spend money for a taxi, spend money for drinks and hope some guy comes along to make it worthwhile, when she can sit at home until she's guaranteed a payday? Especially since she's going to be able to be picky. She hasn't already invested 4 or 5 meals into hoping for any customer.
The best part about Facebook for me? When they're bored, or just need a little money, women will hit me up to just come and hang out, or offer me crazy discounts.
Maybe I'm not such a loser after all.
I see the recent talk of how Face book, and other electronic methods have changed the mongering scene in MDE.
No doubt that is true. I think the point being made by some of the mongers who have operated in MDE in the past is that it really changes the quality, and chances to get a good girl out of the casa's, strip clubs, and SW's.
For myself (after countless trips, and trip reports concerning MDE) it was always about the hunt. You could spend 30 or 50 K on a girl who you found attractive. During the session it was to me a tryout. Many times I did not even come as I would save that for another candidate. Now at these prices 150 k to 200 or 300 K that makes it almost impossible for a guy to hunt. I don't think it is a question of going back to the horse, and buggy days as we all know that period is over.
Sad for to me to see that the Hunt for the 7+ girls to get GFE with is basically gone.
On another note let me get to one of my favorite pastimes in MDE, BBBJ. I see 50 K tip now being almost the norm for a lot of posters. To me 20 K tops is the limit I would go. Funny thing is if the hunt is sucessful then the question of a tip for BBBJ is not a factor when after all your good efforts you get the hot girl who gives you the GFE, then the BBBJ a given.
Sorry for the rant with no trip report.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2219659]OK here's a good one! The more answers the better because this is something rarely discussed on this board. How the hell do you pick them up? Being a foreigner 9 times out of 10 we are not driving rentals for 4 days. Driving seems intimidating for a newbie in Medellin. So are you litterally getting dropped off in the hood and walking up and down the streets to meet them? Then hailing another cab to go home? Are you pulling up in a cab and telling the driver to circle the block a few times until you find her? Then having them drive you two back? How does a guy find street walkers outside of the major parks and pick them up if he has no car? What's the proven method?[/QUOTE]Well most tourists go to Plaza Botero to see the Botero statues and maybe go thru his museum down in El Centro aka La Candelaria neighborhood, the downtown area of Medellin.
Might as well go south west a block to see the old white church built in 1682, the Iglesia De La Veracruz.
Standing in front of it go down the sidewalk to the left of it, Calle 51, the girls start in front, run down the side and are right at the next street on both side of the block, IE Carr 53 between Calle 51 & Calle 52. They will be leaning against walls, sitting in little bars, standing in the stairwell of a short term hotel. They have a avg price of 30,000 cop ($10 US) The cuter more established ones will be on Carr 53 within 30 ft of a short term hotel they use. I'd ignore the ones up by the church entrance and down the sides, too many TV's. The younger crowd hang out up against the brick wall smoking joints on SW corner of Carr53/ Calle52, card them carefully or avoid. If you don't see anybody you like go hit the stores / museums / restaurants / New Life etc and try back a little later. Just remember you are looking for $10 worth of hot. LOL.
They will take you to a very close short term hotel, up some stairs to a safety-glassed off reception where she pays for the room and buys condoms if needed, then she gets a key, you follow her to a room, many have porno TV and showers, not hot water but rooms look clean. (the 3 or 4 I have been in). I've had no problems in 10+ visits. And 2 of my favs from 4-6 day trips in the last year were Centro street chicks.
Continue north on Carr 53 one block, cross over and go left on Calle 53 (Ave De Greiff) check both north corners of and down right a bit on Carr 54, the Raudal redlight block, older sometimes hotter girls here, more hooker outfits and Hi heels, more surgery, they will try for 60 k+-cop ($20) They also have several close by love hotels. If she is real hot go down to the next corner on the left is the hotel Eros with jacuzzi and steam rooms, steros, mini bar. (SW corner Carr 54 & Calle 54).
The area around Parque Bolivar seems to be more TV's.
If you hit it off with the girl get her number or whatapp contact and have her over or see her again.
Do this in daytime. This tour is not for everybody, rough part of town, Raudal more so then VeraCruz imo, don't flash cash, Iphone, watch, nice clothes, expensive shades etc. Go 1st time between 10 am and 4 pm on to avoid crowds of drunk locals. And take a buddy if you can.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2219808] Now at these prices 150 k to 200 or 300 K that makes it almost impossible for a guy to hunt. I don't think it is a question of going back to the horse, and buggy days as we all know that period is over.
Sad for to me to see that the Hunt for the 7+ girls to get GFE with is basically gone.
[/QUOTE]I like to hunt also. Friends were giving me names of sure-fire winners and I wasn't interested. I turned down the "best blow job" artist in Medellin. My friend said, "You sure make things hard on yourself" but I wanted to find my own. Not wanting to be an Asshole but I will own it if so proclaimed, on a two week trip I can afford to spend 300,000 pesos a day on the Hunt.
For this trip, I hunted in the apartments of Laureles and Belen which are hardly ever mentioned on this Board. Three of the six chicas I met were what I consider to be sevens and they were the three that had real pictures in their ads. Usually in the ads the faces are blurred. The other three were using pictures when they were younger or fake pictures. I have to say that the service provided was average to above average in all cases. However, there was not a keeper in the bunch.
The only keeper I found came from the Whatsapp list that is going around but of course that is a more expensive option because of the fee to the intermediary. I did three sessions with that chica. I found with the Whatsapp list and Tinder chicas there were fewer restrictions.
For guys on short-term trips, if you decide to go to Laureles stick to the places with big lineups like Energy or Tantra. From my experience, you will find a chica that is attractive to you in the lineup and she will provide average to above-average service.
Because of my lack of success on the hunt this time, if I come back to Medellin which I probably will because I like hanging out with the guys, I think I am going to go to the high-end places like Gustos or La Isla the first couple of nights just to get it out of my system. Then I will probably go back to my hunting but with a new plan and different tactics.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2219852]I like to hunt also. Friends were giving me names of sure-fire winners and I wasn't interested. I turned down the "best blow job" artist in Medellin. My friend said, "You sure make things hard on yourself" but I wanted to find my own.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I have never asked for information on a chick and I really don't give information on chicks. Just point me to where they are and how much they usually go for, and I will go pick my own AND talk the price down.
A guy keeps PMing me asking for recommendations on chicks in Rio. I told him that I don't know him from Adam, don't know his type or anything. You have all the info. Go pick your own chick. Besides, one of the biggest tenents in mongering is that Your Mileage May Vary. Just because I got fireworks out of a chick, does not mean that you will. Go forth and create your own experiences. Why knock yourself out trying to recreate for yourself the experiences that others have had.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2219690]That's the way I did it 15 years ago also.
I was always much better at meeting women in person and making a connection that way.
Pretty easy to tell of a woman is into you when she is right in front of you. And I seemed to attract more women in person. I was terrible on Colombian Cupid.
And then about 5 years ago I hit Medellin and the mongering scene.
Got on to facebook and never looked back. I kind of use it as a squeeze page of sorts.
I just put some good pics of myself and a dozen or so pics of myself with other young attractive women out at clubs or at a nice restaurant. Even posted a few pics of me with my newborn baby. Any normal woman would block me after seeing my Facebook page. jajaja
But prepagos flock to it.
The real upside to facebook is the women are picking you as well.
When you go to a casa the women have pretty much resigned themselves to fucking whoever walks in the door regardless and it is fairly hard to get anything approaching a GFE. And when I do I make sure to get her contact information.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I too may have to get myself into the Facebook frenzy, LOL.
I just haven't needed to as of yet, still getting lucky on the streets and in the clubs and bars.
I just really like getting out and about and searching and schmoozing.
Inviting over "unknown riders" is so hit and miss, but I'm sure once you get in the scene and make connections it gets easier.
On a side note.
Just checked into an AirBB in Cali, waiting for my GF to arrive.
The neighbor just came to say Hi.
OMG!
A smoking hot 20 year old.
How am I going to pull this off!?
Wow!!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2219763]Hey tell your friend to keep the info coming. Zandaly is pretty well known. It is on every map I've seen. I don't know about the college thing but they usually have a couple of good lookers in the mix. They also keep Sunday hours consistently. A few places. Including Diviniwomen. Advertise Sunday / holiday hours but don't always open.
I've heard a lot of good reports about momentos love hotel. I'm surprised more guys who stay in Poblado don't use the place to bring girls or rest and shower between casa visits. I've never been but several trusted sources tell me it's a winner.[/QUOTE]My American expat friend is a veteran when it comes to providing mongers information that will allow them to participate in the hobby safely and effectively. I don't think getting additional information from him will be an issue, and when he passes it along to me, I'll definitely post it here with his permission.
It's funny what you say about the guys in Poblado. The exact quote from my American expat friend, when discussing Prisma Suite (and something I didn't include in my latest report) was:
"This was the best one many have jacuzzi for maybe a couple bucks more. These idiots that stay in Poblado just don't get it. They pay all that money for a room and then cab fare, when all these places are walking distance from their school or work. Your 3 hour afternoon will cost you less $40, that's half what a room in Poblado costs not counting your entertainment cost which starts at $100, and that's without even meeting your date. Don't even try to convince the Poblado Gringos they have their own agenda, let them stay in Poblado this is really a local or veteran thing."
I'm not versed enough in the Medellin scene to know if the costs that he has quoted are accurate or not. But he's the one who is in Medellin with boots on the ground, so personally, I'll take him at his word. Veteran Medellin mongers might disagree.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2219769]Is there a place I can go to get a current list of most of the casas? After going through the forum and trying to find the addresses with google, I've only found the address for 3.
Divini.
Cra. 43 #55-49.
Energy.
Cra. 74 #49-101.
New Life.
Around CL. 56?
Any help with casas would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Go to the Medellin Lists thread. You'll find the link to the Medellin map and you will also find the Medellin Chica List. It's a PDF file of the casas and clubs with addresses.
Going rate = 30 k + 10 k /15 k for the room.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2219765]You're trying to bring the US to Colombia. It doesn't work like that, although I've seen a few guys try.
If you're taking a taxi, have them drop you off at Plaza Botero. From there it's a short walk to where you'll find the women. Once you find them you'll probably panic, because there will probably be a few cops standing around. At least you'll see them during daylight hours. You probably don't want to go there after dark. Not until you get some experience.
You'll find all kinds of girls and most will be standing in front of the entrance to a short time place. You make the deal, go to the room and do the deed. If you're staying in a nice place, you might not want to bring one of those girls back with you. If you decide to take one with you, just flag down a taxi.[/QUOTE]
T seems clear to me girls flock to facebook because they can get 2 to 3 times what they would otherwise get from locals or bar / casa / strip club deals. I agree I know guys of every stripe who use it. I use it after the fact to stay in contact with girls I've met elsewhere like on the street or in a casa or via friend referral. For me it's a convenience not a source. It comes in handy when girls lose or have their phones stolen or you just can't get a call through.
I lump all the stereotyping and you can't possibly enjoy Colombia without Spanish and you must stay in the Gringo Inn into a mentality to I don't understand very well because I honestly don't give a fuck how or for how much guys do their thing. I'm always happy to help when asked. I never go in on anybody who hasn't first gone in on somebody else. I feel fortunate that I have other ways to fulfill myself and be happy.
Now that I think about it I have put on a couple of pounds the past couple of years. LOL!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2219781]You must be absolutely gorgeous!
Seriously, why even monger? Leave paying for sex to all of us socially awkward, weird looking, overweight mongers.
I've seen mongers that fit all 3 of your stereotypes, who don't use Facebook at all. I've seen others who are fit, suave and extremely handsome, who only use Facebook. Granted, they probably aren't as perfect as you, but I've seen them turn a lot of heads.
Me? I'm one of those losers. Just can't handle any first encounter, especially looking as weird as I do. Sometimes I look in the mirror and even scare myself. Hell, I'm so socially awkward that I get flustered trying to apologise to myself for scaring myself.
Time to be serious. If a woman you found on Facebook is on Facebook when she's with you, that's on you. If you're so entertaining, why can't you keep their attention? I never have had that problem. Most of the girls never touch their phone until it's time to leave. Most of the time, time to leave was whenever I decided it was time for them to go..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2219763]Hey tell your friend to keep the info coming. Zandaly is pretty well known. It is on every map I've seen. I don't know about the college thing but they usually have a couple of good lookers in the mix. They also keep Sunday hours consistently. A few places. Including Diviniwomen. Advertise Sunday / holiday hours but don't always open.
I've heard a lot of good reports about momentos love hotel. I'm surprised more guys who stay in Poblado don't use the place to bring girls or rest and shower between casa visits. I've never been but several trusted sources tell me it's a winner.[/QUOTE]My American expat friend is a veteran when it comes to providing mongers information that will allow them to participate in the hobby safely and effectively. I don't think getting additional information from him will be an issue, and when he passes it along to me, I'll definitely post it here with his permission.
It's funny what you say about the guys in Poblado. The exact quote from my American expat friend, when discussing Prisma Suite (and something I didn't include in my latest report) was:
"This was the best one many have jacuzzi for maybe a couple bucks more. These idiots that stay in Poblado just don't get it. They pay all that money for a room and then cab fare, when all these places are walking distance from their school or work. Your 3 hour afternoon will cost you less $40, that's half what a room in Poblado costs not counting your entertainment cost which starts at $100, and that's without even meeting your date. Don't even try to convince the Poblado Gringos they have their own agenda, let them stay in Poblado this is really a local or veteran thing."
I'm not versed enough in the Medellin scene to know if the costs that he has quoted are accurate or not. But he's the one who is in Medellin with boots on the ground, so personally, I'll take him at his word. Veteran Medellin mongers might disagree.
I wanted to change the scenery a bit and I stayed at a hotel in Laureles by Calle 44 Near the stadium 60 K COP, the room has a hot tub, is really close to Exito de la 70, and the restaurants on la 80, I made an appointment with a girl from Mileroticos, 4 blocks from the hotel Near Exito de la 70,100 K x hour (normally is 130 K for the hour and 150 K if you want a Trio with another girl), is a 2nd floor apartment, the girl I made the appointment with was a no show that day, so they sat me down on a beat up sofa with a low coffee table and a TV, the place is very plain, nothing special, it had about 4 rooms and what it looked like a kitchen with a curtain in place of a door, 5 girls came out, 4 on the chubby side, nice ass but not my type, the last one was slimmer, medium height, long black hair and nice tanned skin, Carolina was her name, I chose her. I pay the fee and she takes me to the room, the room was clean enough and really plain, Carolina takes her clothes off and I do the same, she is very pretty naked, we start a conversation, then I begging caressing her body, touching her tits, her legs we are both standing, I move to kiss her and she kisses back, so far so good. I run my hand between her legs while kissing her and stick my middle finger slightly in her pussy, she moans and sits me on the bed, gets some flavored lube and puts her in her pussy and her ass. She has a medium size clit and protruding pussy lips, I ate that pussy till my jaw was sore, then I pounded her as hard as I could, cause I knew I wasn't going to last long, I finished the she cleaned me up, we both laid down and she told me she is Bi and a nymphomaniac, we talked for a few minutes I was digesting all this info, I had hit the jackpot I thought, till she said she doesn't see clients outside of the casa, bummer. Well I was ready for my second go at that ass, and she went out to get another rubber, she walked out there naked and came back very quick we did it again mish, cowgirl, doggy, she told me she loves doggy style, I slipped out and licked her asshole, and she moaned, then I put it back in and slowly rub her asshole, and stick the tip of my thumb in, she doesn't complain and just moans with pleasure, I decided to stick my thumb in her all the way and she just moans Si, papi, dame duro! I start ramming her as hard as I can, my legs are cramping up, I don't care I got to finish the job right, hehe. We finish am covered in sweat, I sit on the edge of the bed and she goes back outside for a towel, dries me up and lays down with me again, kissing and caressing JR, very softly, we get a knock on the door, the whole hour went by and she was never rushed. I get dressed she walks me to the door naked, holding me close to her and am grabbing that ass for the last time, she sends me out with a kiss and a promise to comeback and see her again.
I walk back to the hotel, stop by Exito to get some rum and some snacks since my now "regular" Black skinny girl with the nice pussy gap (Stefi) will be coming by later to spend the night with me. She showed up around 8 pm, we go to dinner together to one of the restaurants on la 80, come back to the hotel, am so ready to eat her pussy, she is like I said skinny, has long skinny but very nice legs, a bubble ass and a very soft pussy with long lips that I love to suck on. I brought her some Lingerie I bought online with the Wish app, pretty cool stuff on that app, and dirt cheap. I get her naked and kiss her all over and lick her pussy and ass, she starts shivering, I eat her till she cums in my mouth. I bring out the lingerie she starts modeling it for me, while I lay in bed, does every naughty position I tell her and allows me to take some pictures with the promise I will not post them anywhere, by now am too hard to continue without fucking her, so I lay her down on the bed with the new panties on, move them aside and lick her, from her pussy to her asshole, then slide Jr in and do her missionary slowly at first then hard, she is cums, I flip her to doggy and do her from behind till I cum. We turn the hot tub on and get some bubbles, soak in the water for a couple of hours talking and holding each other, am getting hard again from all the caressing, I sit in front of her in the hot tub, sit her on my lap and slip in, she wraps her legs around me the hugs me while kissing me, and we fuck slowly then fast, we are splashing water everywhere, we laugh and go the the bed to finish, we go at it for a while till we both finish and fall a sleep, I wake up in the middle of the night lay on my side spoon position and do her while she is sleeping, she wakes up and doesn't mind am doing her with no condom, she starts moaning asking me for more and harder, I get up, get her doggy style on her knees and her face on the pillow, and fuck her hard till I cum in her, she doesn't mind. I had bought a pill for the day after just in case this happened. We go back to sleep, she gets up around 6 am gets ready, she goes to the University and has class at 8 am, and has to pick up her daughter from the babysitter, I give her some money for her taxi and to pay the babysitter. Call the reception for a taxi and walk her to her taxi, kiss passionately and off she goes.
I've been staying in touch with her and plan to spend the night with her next time am in Medellin.
He is absolutely right about the pricing. I agree with everything else he said except I wouldn't refer to the Poblado bros quite so harshly. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. My only agenda here is to help guys make informed decisions. I'm OK with guys staying in Poblado and cabbing it back and forth or paying facebook girls "cab fare" on time of their premium pricing, as long as they know the alternatives.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2219936]My American expat friend is a veteran when it comes to providing mongers information that will allow them to participate in the hobby safely and effectively. I don't think getting additional information from him will be an issue, and when he passes it along to me, I'll definitely post it here with his permission.
It's funny what you say about the guys in Poblado. The exact quote from my American expat friend, when discussing Prisma Suite (and something I didn't include in my latest report) was:
"This was the best one many have jacuzzi for maybe a couple bucks more. These idiots that stay in Poblado just don't get it. They pay all that money for a room and then cab fare, when all these places are walking distance from their school or work. Your 3 hour afternoon will cost you less $40, that's half what a room in Poblado costs not counting your entertainment cost which starts at $100, and that's without even meeting your date. Don't even try to convince the Poblado Gringos they have their own agenda, let them stay in Poblado this is really a local or veteran thing."
I'm not versed enough in the Medellin scene to know if the costs that he has quoted are accurate or not. But he's the one who is in Medellin with boots on the ground, so personally, I'll take him at his word. Veteran Medellin mongers might disagree.[/QUOTE]
Everything you said about the Belen / Laureles / Floresta apartment trade squares with the local monger boards. Good advice about veering to the mid range casas for good looking girls with average to above average service. You generally above average service in the apartments because they see fewer punters per day but the looks don't always add up to the ad pictures. It's fun to discover.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2219852]I like to hunt also. Friends were giving me names of sure-fire winners and I wasn't interested. I turned down the "best blow job" artist in Medellin. My friend said, "You sure make things hard on yourself" but I wanted to find my own. Not wanting to be an Asshole but I will own it if so proclaimed, on a two week trip I can afford to spend 300,000 pesos a day on the Hunt.
For this trip, I hunted in the apartments of Laureles and Belen which are hardly ever mentioned on this Board. Three of the six chicas I met were what I consider to be sevens and they were the three that had real pictures in their ads. Usually in the ads the faces are blurred. The other three were using pictures when they were younger or fake pictures. I have to say that the service provided was average to above average in all cases. However, there was not a keeper in the bunch.
The only keeper I found came from the Whatsapp list that is going around but of course that is a more expensive option because of the fee to the intermediary. I did three sessions with that chica. I found with the Whatsapp list and Tinder chicas there were fewer restrictions..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2219781]Seriously, why even monger? Leave paying for sex to all of us socially awkward, weird looking, overweight mongers.
Yes. Facebook is an advantage to the girls. That's why they use it. The problem isn't that all us ogres are using Facebook. We're just smart enough to use the best tools to get the best results. The problem is that the girls are smart enough to know that using Facebook works out better for them. Why go to a bar, spend money for a taxi, spend money for drinks and hope some guy comes along to make it worthwhile, when she can sit at home until she's guaranteed a payday? Especially since she's going to be able to be picky. She hasn't already invested 4 or 5 meals into hoping for any customer.
The best part about Facebook for me? When they're bored, or just need a little money, women will hit me up to just come and hang out, or offer me crazy discounts.[/QUOTE]Amen, brother! Facebook is fucking great. I have more friends on my Medellin facebook account than my real one.
I land in Medellin, put up a post saying I'm in country and the "hola, amor" start rolling in. Which is great when you're a socially awkward, overweight weirdo like me. All of a sudden I got lots of girls wanting to jump on my dick. This is exactly why I come to Colombia. I don't want that 'hunt' shit. That just leaves me disappointed with blue balls at the end of the night. (after putting in way more work than I put into my Facebook working girl list). Some of these Facebook girls have even been able to stomach coming out with my ugly ass in public too.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2220027]Go to the Medellin Lists thread. You'll find the link to the Medellin map and you will also find the Medellin Chica List. It's a PDF file of the casas and clubs with addresses.[/QUOTE]Sweet, thanks!
I'm bound to Medellin next week for the first so I can't wait. But I must be doing something wrong on FB, cause I don't seem to find these hot and willing FB girls on facebook. I found some random hot girls from Medellin on FB, but they have have 5 k -10 k followers and fb and they probably don't have time to respond to a friend request. Does one need a fake six pack and blue eyes to get this ball rollin maybe? I did see some of the few FB links posted here but those were generally average girls on my scale or just a big ole surgery mess.
So do you find the FB girls through real life girls fb account perhaps?
Will report my findings.
Living to the south of Medellin, I decided to try and check out Itagui to see what action is around there, instead of having to trawl up to Centro to visit casas etc. So here is what I found on my one night visit.
Harem Club, Cra 50,49-25. It's a disco type place with a dozen or so girls dressed in underwear at the bar. You just flag which ever one you want. Price is COP 120.000 / half a an hour. All COP 200.000 for 2 HR take out. Place is open in the evenings. There were 2-3 acceptable ladies there, but the price seemed steep to me. Drinks COP 9. 000 for a beer.
Bacarat. Striptease club next door to Harem Club. Dingy kind of place, remeniscent of the strip clubs in Centro. Narrow kinda room with a dance stage running down the middle. Only half a dozen girls there on a Friday night. Prices were fully negotiable with the girls. Thought this was a poor option though as the place was dead. COP 8. 000 for a beer.
International Club. Ave Regional, opp Energia & Potencia store. Place is a girlie club, open from 7 pm to 4 am. Its a bit run down but friendly enough. A dozen or so small tables spread around a dnace stage. 10 or so girls, mostly a little older, but a few full figured ladies with surgery, if you like that kinda thing. I took the youngets thing there. She said she'd never seen a foreigner in there before. Price is COP 20.000 for a tiny room at the back, and 50.000 for the girl for half an hour. Finally, I found what I was looking for. .
La Mayorista. Didn't make it there that night, but tha place is famous enough. Lots of girls hangig out for business on the street. Prices very basic and negotiable. Lots of short time hotels around.
So, it was worth the trip, although the talent could have been better.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2220265]I'm bound to Medellin next week for the first so I can't wait. But I must be doing something wrong on FB, cause I don't seem to find these hot and willing FB girls on facebook. I found some random hot girls from Medellin on FB, but they have have 5 k -10 k followers and fb and they probably don't have time to respond to a friend request. Does one need a fake six pack and blue eyes to get this ball rollin maybe? I did see some of the few FB links posted here but those were generally average girls on my scale or just a big ole surgery mess.
So do you find the FB girls through real life girls fb account perhaps?
Will report my findings.[/QUOTE]I'll be out there Sep 10 - Oct 1st. It's my second trip. Last time I stayed in Parque Lleras but this time I'm exploring the city. I speak Spanish so if you want to link up or need any help while you're out there let me know.
[QUOTE=KelJo;2220174]Amen, brother! Facebook is fucking great. I have more friends on my Medellin facebook account than my real one.
I land in Medellin, put up a post saying I'm in country and the "hola, amor" start rolling in. Which is great when you're a socially awkward, overweight weirdo like me. All of a sudden I got lots of girls wanting to jump on my dick. This is exactly why I come to Colombia. I don't want that 'hunt' shit. That just leaves me disappointed with blue balls at the end of the night. (after putting in way more work than I put into my Facebook working girl list). Some of these Facebook girls have even been able to stomach coming out with my ugly ass in public too.[/QUOTE]Enjoy it! Looking forward to a Trip Report!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2220265]I'm bound to Medellin next week for the first so I can't wait. But I must be doing something wrong on FB, cause I don't seem to find these hot and willing FB girls on facebook. I found some random hot girls from Medellin on FB, but they have have 5 k -10 k followers and fb and they probably don't have time to respond to a friend request. Does one need a fake six pack and blue eyes to get this ball rollin maybe? I did see some of the few FB links posted here but those were generally average girls on my scale or just a big ole surgery mess.
So do you find the FB girls through real life girls fb account perhaps?
Will report my findings.[/QUOTE]If they have 5 k-10 k followers chances are they're an internet model who accepts any friend request to pad their numbers. In my experience most won't reply to your messages but occasionally you get lucky and score a gem.
I think your problem is you're just being too selective and hesitant. When you start out it's better that you friend request ANYONE, even if you don't find them particularly attractive. You might not want to have sex with them in particular, but chances are you WILL want to score with one of their hot friends, or friends of friends, and the only way you start to see those in your friend recommendations is to get that initial pool going as big as possible as soon as possible. It's all a numbers game. I sent out hundreds of friend requests accompanied by a quick message on how I was visiting Colombia and would love to meet them. About 40% accepted my friend request, and about 75% of that pool replied to my message. Only had a handful ever respond negatively. If they're a prepago most will immediately know what you want and ask when you'll be there and maybe flirt a little. If they act coy and ask for clarification on why you want to meet just be direct and say you want to take them back to your apartment for some sexy fun. You can also offer to wine and dine them first but 99% of the time this isn't really necessary.
If you're looking for a good "seed" start with La Vane Restrepo: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940/[/URL] . She'll accept any invite and her friend's list is a goldmine of working girls and clients, whom you can also mine for more contacts.
I added them to the Map, But not sure about the exact location of the International club.
Is it that close to Mangos?
[QUOTE=JustTK;2220484]Living to the south of Medellin, I decided to try and check out Itagui to see what action is around there, instead of having to trawl up to Centro to visit casas etc. So here is what I found on my one night visit.
Harem Club, Cra 50,49-25. It's a disco type place with a dozen or so girls dressed in underwear at the bar. You just flag which ever one you want. Price is COP 120.000 / half a an hour. All COP 200.000 for 2 HR take out. Place is open in the evenings. There were 2-3 acceptable ladies there, but the price seemed steep to me. Drinks COP 9. 000 for a beer.
Bacarat. Striptease club next door to Harem Club. Dingy kind of place, remeniscent of the strip clubs in Centro. Narrow kinda room with a dance stage running down the middle. Only half a dozen girls there on a Friday night. Prices were fully negotiable with the girls. Thought this was a poor option though as the place was dead. COP 8. 000 for a beer.
International Club. Ave Regional, opp Energia & Potencia store. Place is a girlie club, open from 7 pm to 4 am. Its a bit run down but friendly enough. A dozen or so small tables spread around a dnace stage. 10 or so girls, mostly a little older, but a few full figured ladies with surgery, if you like that kinda thing. I took the youngets thing there. She said she'd never seen a foreigner in there before. Price is COP 20.000 for a tiny room at the back, and 50.000 for the girl for half an hour. Finally, I found what I was looking for. .
La Mayorista. Didn't make it there that night, but tha place is famous enough. Lots of girls hangig out for business on the street. Prices very basic and negotiable. Lots of short time hotels around.
So, it was worth the trip, although the talent could have been better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Talon;2220782]
If you're looking for a good "seed" start with La Vane Restrepo: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940/[/URL] . She'll accept any invite and her friend's list is a goldmine of working girls and clients, whom you can also mine for more contacts.[/QUOTE]La Vane provides a good service for us non-Spanish speakers and I will recommend her. To work with her is easy. However be aware that there are fake photos on her friend's list. Also it seemed like my first choices were never available. "La otra no contesto. " I had to settle for second and third choices. Service was very good from the chicas she sent. Far better than the service received at the limited number of casas or apartments that I have attended.
I have a feeling the hot chicas on Facebook are very popular. Either that or I was extremely unlucky. Or guys are offering more than 250,000 pesos to score the eights and nines. Or the hot girls were in Cartagena or Spain for tourist season.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2220817]La Vane provides a good service for us non-Spanish speakers and I will recommend her. To work with her is easy. However be aware that there are fake photos on her friend's list. Also it seemed like my first choices were never available. "La otra no contesto. " I had to settle for second and third choices. Service was very good from the chicas she sent. Far better than the service received at the limited number of casas or apartments that I have attended.
I have a feeling the hot chicas on Facebook are very popular. Either that or I was extremely unlucky. Or guys are offering more than 250,000 pesos to score the eights and nines. Or the hot girls were in Cartagena or Spain for tourist season.[/QUOTE]She sent some pics of some hot girls last night and I asked her how much they were and she said 450 mil an hour.
Yes the girls that I want too are always not available when I ask. There was this one girl who was coming said she was going to be like an hour late so I said forget it. Then the next day she was suppose to come and then said she had to wait for baby sitter so she would be like 2 hours late so I just told her nevermind. Ain't got time to wait around for hookers to show up.
Yeah I don't think 150 or even 200 k is doable for 8+ on facebook. I told this 8 I’ll pay 200 and she laughed and said that is too little and she wanted 250. I didn’t respond to her. These girls think they are worth more now and people are willing to pay it.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2220843]She sent some pics of some hot girls last night and I asked her how much they were and she said 450 mil an hour.
Yes the girls that I want too are always not available when I ask. There was this one girl who was coming said she was going to be like an hour late so I said forget it. Then the next day she was suppose to come and then said she had to wait for baby sitter so she would be like 2 hours late so I just told her nevermind. Ain't got time to wait around for hookers to show up.
Yeah I don't think 150 or even 200 k is doable for 8+ on facebook. I told this 8 Ill pay 200 and she laughed and said that is too little and she wanted 250. I didnt respond to her. These girls think they are worth more now and people are willing to pay it.[/QUOTE]At those sort of rates aren't you better off calling one of the many more reputable agencies like LaCelestina?
She is probably just calling numbers that she believes uninformed and uninitiated yet horny gringos would pay.
Thanks I have already La Vane on whatsapp, big selection there. True, I am on the selective side when it comes to girls but arent we all, some more than others just. I have a theory that most hot FB girls are comfortable if they already know you otherwise they can't sort you out from thousands of attention she gets.
[QUOTE=Talon;2220782]If they have 5 k-10 k followers chances are they're an internet model who accepts any friend request to pad their numbers. In my experience most won't reply to your messages but occasionally you get lucky and score a gem.
I think your problem is you're just being too selective and hesitant. When you start out it's better that you friend request ANYONE, even if you don't find them particularly attractive. You might not want to have sex with them in particular, but chances are you WILL want to score with one of their hot friends, or friends of friends, and the only way you start to see those in your friend recommendations is to get that initial pool going as big as possible as soon as possible. It's all a numbers game. I sent out hundreds of friend requests accompanied by a quick message on how I was visiting Colombia and would love to meet them. About 40% accepted my friend request, and about 75% of that pool replied to my message. Only had a handful ever respond negatively. If they're a prepago most will immediately know what you want and ask when you'll be there and maybe flirt a little. If they act coy and ask for clarification on why you want to meet just be direct and say you want to take them back to your apartment for some sexy fun. You can also offer to wine and dine them first but 99% of the time this isn't really necessary.
If you're looking for a good "seed" start with La Vane Restrepo: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940/[/URL] . She'll accept any invite and her friend's list is a goldmine of working girls and clients, whom you can also mine for more contacts.[/QUOTE]
I opened a Medellin FB account. I started doing searches for groups and people. I would type in Keywords like prepagos, escort, escort.
Sexy, and stuff like that. Very few results. Every now and then I'd hit a word that brought up a few girls in their name. I'd friend request. Some would go through, others would even give me a pop up saying "do you really know this person hahaha then retract my request. I might have gotten 2 accepts max. My normal Facebook I get girls to accept all the time so I knew something was up. I got frustrated and gave up on the FB search until I saw this thread. I went ahead and clicked on the restreppo girls link that was posted and friend requested her. At first the option to friend request her wasn't even there. Almost like FB knew I didn't know her. I couldn't see her friends as that's private. But I'm smart and got crafty. Maybe this will work for you too! I looked at her pictures! There you will find say 80 likes on a picture of her standing by a pool. Look at who liked it! They are 90% gringos and 10% girls. You would think that's not much to work with but it's a Gold Mine! All the Guys are building list too! Look at their friends! I found one guy who had the last name Medellin. His friends list wasn't private. Holy shit, there wasn't a single male friend hajaha
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2220817]La Vane provides a good service for us non-Spanish speakers and I will recommend her. To work with her is easy. However be aware that there are fake photos on her friend's list. Also it seemed like my first choices were never available. "La otra no contesto." I had to settle for second and third choices. Service was very good from the chicas she sent. Far better than the service received at the limited number of casas or apartments that I have attended. Every single girl was a pro!! And it took me an hour to friend request all of them A-Z. That's a lot of request but it worked, now this morning I have 15 new friends and 3 inboxes asking where I'm from. I think this is the start of my list and it can only grow from here. No price quotes yet but this should help FB those who shared my experience get a list going. Check the other gringos friends and that will weed out a lot of people. The girls list will be filled with guys and some girls. The guys list will 99% chicks!! Dont over look their value!!
I have a feeling the hot chicas on Facebook are very popular. Either that or I was extremely unlucky. Or guys are offering more than 250,000 pesos to score the eights and nines. Or the hot girls were in Cartagena or Spain for tourist season.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Talon;2220782]
If you're looking for a good "seed" start with La Vane Restrepo: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940/[/URL] . She'll accept any invite and her friend's list is a goldmine of working girls and clients, whom you can also mine for more contacts.[/QUOTE]Better not ask her friendship from the main real-life FB account, with friends from workplace and church.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2220851]At those sort of rates aren't you better off calling one of the many more reputable agencies like LaCelestina?
She is probably just calling numbers that she believes uninformed and uninitiated yet horny gringos would pay.[/QUOTE]La Celestina did not answer my Whatsapp inquiry while I was in Medellin. They list about 20 chicas on their webpage. Their chicas are in constant rotation on photoprepagos. In fairness I did make my inquiry on a Monday holiday when even places like Energy and Tantra were closed. But they read the inquiry based on the check marks in the feed. All the reviews on La Celestina are based on Bogota experiences.
My real question is what do you have to do in Medellin to score an eight or above? Where do you have to go? How much do you have to pay? Medellin is a good cheap place to go to if you are happy being with sixes and sevens.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221093]La Celestina did not answer my Whatsapp inquiry while I was in Medellin. They list about 20 chicas on their webpage. Their chicas are in constant rotation on photoprepagos. In fairness I did make my inquiry on a Monday holiday when even places like Energy and Tantra were closed. But they read the inquiry based on the check marks in the feed. All the reviews on La Celestina are based on Bogota experiences.
My real question is what do you have to do in Medellin to score an eight or above? Where do you have to go? How much do you have to pay? Medellin is a good cheap place to go to if you are happy being with sixes and sevens.[/QUOTE]I'd start at Fase II, on a good weekend night past 11 they will have 50 +- girls on, top 5 will be 8 & 9 's usually.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221093]La Celestina did not answer my Whatsapp inquiry while I was in Medellin. They list about 20 chicas on their webpage. Their chicas are in constant rotation on photoprepagos. In fairness I did make my inquiry on a Monday holiday when even places like Energy and Tantra were closed. But they read the inquiry based on the check marks in the feed. All the reviews on La Celestina are based on Bogota experiences.
My real question is what do you have to do in Medellin to score an eight or above? Where do you have to go? How much do you have to pay? Medellin is a good cheap place to go to if you are happy being with sixes and sevens.[/QUOTE]I don't know. What's an 8 or 9? What you call an 8 I might call a 6, and vice versa. Everyone has their own standard.
It seems to be a recipe for disappointment if you're just focusing on finding your 10. The ones who are available know their worth and they know exactly how much they have to do to get their price. You're combining the highest price with the lowest effort. It's like buying a Bentley that someone stuck a Yugo engine in.
Not saying it isn't possible, but it requires more effort.
It helps when you become a known entity. Initially you're just another gringo that wants to fuck. And from prior experience, she figures you're not a very good fuck. Unless she's desperate for the money, you're not worth her time.
The guys living there have it easier. Keep going to the same places. Get to know the waitresses. Bring an occasional girl in to party. Eventually the girls will come to you. When they do, keep your cool. Exploit their curiosity.
Good question. I would guess the high end clubs or a hell of a lot of networking. Seems as if the super hot ones have more options. One short ride on the metro you can see plenty 8 and 9's.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221093]My real question is what do you have to do in Medellin to score an eight or above? Where do you have to go? How much do you have to pay? Medellin is a good cheap place to go to if you are happy being with sixes and sevens.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2221128]I don't know. What's an 8 or 9? What you call an 8 I might call a 6, and vice versa. Everyone has their own standard.
The guys living there have it easier. Keep going to the same places. Get to know the waitresses. Bring an occasional girl in to party. Eventually the girls will come to you. When they do, keep your cool. Exploit their curiosity.[/QUOTE]Attached is my version of an eight. She used to dance at nightclubs in Buenos Aires and sometimes danced at Jackson's stripper parties. Now she is a college student about to graduate at the top of her class.
I have been to Fase Dos and La Isla maybe five times and frankly don't even remember what the chicas who I went with looked like.
Maybe I was spoiled by going to Spain and Switzerland this summer.
I probably do need an introduction. That was how I met the attached. I was kind of hoping that Vany could provide it.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2221128]I don't know. What's an 8 or 9? What you call an 8 I might call a 6, and vice versa. Everyone has their own standard. {snip} [/QUOTE]That's the age old question, isn't it?
Many, many years back (when we were both single) my best friend and I were bemoaning this very thing while sitting at our favorite pick-up bar scoping out the talent. So we cam up with a completely non-judgemental scale. It only goes from 0 to 4.
A 0 is a girl that you would not f*ck.
A 1 is a girl you would f*ck.
A 2 is a girl you would DATY then f*ck.
A 3 is a girl you would f*ck (BB, of course) then DATY.
A 4 is a girl you would DATY after your buddy f*cked her (BB of course).
So. There are lots of 1's and 2's, very few 3's and maybe only about 2 or 3 4's in the entire world.
We'd get a lot of stares in a bar when we'd see some fairly hot chica and say. "That's a 2".
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2221128]I don't know. What's an 8 or 9? What you call an 8 I might call a 6, and vice versa. Everyone has their own standard.
[/QUOTE]Does that really have to be explained?
Over and over again, LOL.
Just go to Colombia, walk about, visit all types of venues, get online, Facebook, etc.
You'll find "your 8 or 9" and the price will be the going rate of where you find her, and your own personal skills.
It's not complicated.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2221384]Does that really have to be explained?
Over and over again, LOL.
Just go to Colombia, walk about, visit all types of venues, get online, Facebook, etc.
You'll find "your 8 or 9" and the price will be the going rate of where you find her, and your own personal skills.
It's not complicated.[/QUOTE]Not to me it doesn't. But when someone specifically asks where to find an 8 or 9, apparently it does need to be explained again.
Anyone know an uber driver who do extras. I lost contact with one who made my trip back home pleasant.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2221450]Anyone know an uber driver who do extras. I lost contact with one who made my trip back home pleasant.[/QUOTE]You mean a female driver or gender is not an issue?
I consider these two chicas as eights. One was advertised on the Whatsapp list and the other is advertised on Mileeroticos. Maybe a long-term Medellin resident knows one of these two chicas. Are they available for 250,000 pesos or less for 90 minutes? Is a tourist being realistic in trying to meet one of these two?
[QUOTE=Balboa;2221384]You'll find "your 8 or 9" and the price will be the going rate of where you find her, and your own personal skills.
It's not complicated.[/QUOTE]No doubt I'm a lot older than you, but when I was young we described ourselves as: Assmen, Titsmen, A LegMan, FaceMan, Athletic girls, and on and on and on. Come on Balboa, everyone's taste is different.
8's and 9's can vary wildly. The only real common theme is that: We have money and want vajayjay and the Girls have vajayvay and want dinero. Everything else is a matter of taste and negotiation.
So, tell me what you lust for and I'll tell you who I know that fits the bill (assuming I know someone who matches your preferences).
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2221464]You mean a female driver or gender is not an issue?[/QUOTE]Yes a female driver.
Just found out about this app, its like an uber for motels, I see a lot of love motels listed, it uses your location to find what's nearby with photos and prices listed and it has a button to reserve a room right from the app, I'm not in MDE yet so I can't try it but I will. Its a blessing for me since I will be needing motels. Anybody have experience with it? Motelnow.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221498]I consider these two chicas as eights. One was advertised on the Whatsapp list and the other is advertised on Mileeroticos. Maybe a long-term Medellin resident knows one of these two chicas. Are they available for 250,000 pesos or less for 90 minutes? Is a tourist being realistic in trying to meet one of these two?[/QUOTE]The one with her back to camera is a 6 and the chick facing the camera could be a 7 by Medellin standards.
You could easily find the same or better at the Mansion for 100 mill less and get better service to boot.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221498]I consider these two chicas as eights. One was advertised on the Whatsapp list and the other is advertised on Mileeroticos. Maybe a long-term Medellin resident knows one of these two chicas. Are they available for 250,000 pesos or less for 90 minutes? Is a tourist being realistic in trying to meet one of these two?[/QUOTE]I consider the second one a 10. The first is not too shabby either.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221498]I consider these two chicas as eights. One was advertised on the Whatsapp list and the other is advertised on Mileeroticos. Maybe a long-term Medellin resident knows one of these two chicas. Are they available for 250,000 pesos or less for 90 minutes? Is a tourist being realistic in trying to meet one of these two?[/QUOTE]Of course you can find this quality, and likely for a lot less than 250 k. As another poster said, you just need to hit a bunch of different venues. There's no guarantee any particular one will have what you want, but if you hit enough places you'll definitely find talent that suits you. My time-worn strategy is to mix it up. I may stay a few nights at the Mansion and see what's there. I have one or two morning / afternoons where I walk around to several Centro casas. Hit Fase II at least one night. At least one night at a Centro strip club. I'll hit some non-pro clubs (I like to dance). Wash, rinse, repeat.
As an example of this: The hottest looking chica I've met in Colombia (in well over 20 visits going back to 2001) was walking around Centro several years ago. I ran into a near 10 right off De Grieff. Hotter than any chica from Loutron, La Isla, Fase II etc. Is this the norm? Of course not. I've walked around Centro many times since and seen no one remotely that attractive. The point is you never really know where they'll be. But if you do you legwork and keep your eyes open, you'll find them. It's a big City.
[QUOTE=Combo;2221561]Of course you can find this quality, and likely for a lot less than 250 k. As another poster said, you just need to hit a bunch of different venues. There's no guarantee any particular one will have what you want, but if you hit enough places you'll definitely find talent that suits you. My time-worn strategy is to mix it up. I may stay a few nights at the Mansion and see what's there. I have one or two morning / afternoons where I walk around to several Centro casas. Hit Fase II at least one night. At least one night at a Centro strip club. I'll hit some non-pro clubs (I like to dance). Wash, rinse, repeat.
As an example of this: The hottest looking chica I've met in Colombia (in well over 20 visits going back to 2001) was walking around Centro several years ago. I ran into a near 10 right off De Grieff. Hotter than any chica from Loutron, La Isla, Fase II etc. Is this the norm? Of course not. I've walked around Centro many times since and seen no one remotely that attractive. The point is you never really know where they'll be. But if you do you legwork and keep your eyes open, you'll find them. It's a big City.[/QUOTE]Medellin may not be my paradise. I will likely come back because many of the BA guys have migrated to Medellin. The Mansion doesn't seem like a deal because in my late 60's I am happy with one chica a day. I was paying 180,000 pesos a night with my credit card for a room with an incredible view and averaged about 270,000 pesos per chica including motel rooms and alcohol. Of course, I went to a few apartments which lowered the average but I always received BBBJ which seems to require a tip. So I am economically indifferent towards paying a chica 150,000 pesos and 288,000 pesos for a room at the Mansion. Do they take USD? I imagine I would buy a few drinks at the Cave to even things out.
If those chicas I posted are 6 and 7's, than my expectations were not that high. I was not sitting around waiting for a 10 to arrive. And a couple of the chicas I am calling sixes were probably fives on MedellinGringo's scale. I can accept Medellin from my experience as it is. Good friends and cheap GFE sex with average-looking chicas.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ4UUieFsIy/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BZziF5Kl2Dn/?hl=en[/URL]
This is a 10 for me. But it could be a 7 for someone else. Its all up to taste. Just look around, although i have never seen a hooker as hot as this.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221575]Medellin may not be my paradise. I will likely come back because many of the BA guys have migrated to Medellin. The Mansion doesn't seem like a deal because in my late 60's I am happy with one chica a day. I was paying 180,000 pesos a night with my credit card for a room with an incredible view and averaged about 270,000 pesos per chica including motel rooms and alcohol. Of course, I went to a few apartments which lowered the average but I always received BBBJ which seems to require a tip. So I am economically indifferent towards paying a chica 150,000 pesos and 288,000 pesos for a room at the Mansion. Do they take USD? I imagine I would buy a few drinks at the Cave to even things out.
If those chicas I posted are 6 and 7's, than my expectations were not that high. I was not sitting around waiting for a 10 to arrive. And a couple of the chicas I am calling sixes were probably fives on MedellinGringo's scale. I can accept Medellin from my experience as it is. Good friends and cheap GFE sex with average-looking chicas.[/QUOTE]Take it with a grain of salt. Unless you always stay at the Mansion and always rave about how great the Mansion is, there are those who will criticize your every move. Then there are those who will criticize you if you stay at the Mansion.
With your photos, the one on the right is heavily edited, so no real opinion, except there are plenty of available women who look better without editing. The one on the left looks like a fairly typical Facebook girl. I have about 100 comparable girls on my friend list. To the 6 guys with 10 or less posts, don't bother with the pm asking for my list.
My own experience at the Mansion didn't get the greatest review. The available girls at the bar were, on average, slightly better looking than the average at Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva, roughly equivalent to the lineup at New Life. The performance I found there was only slightly better than I found at New Life, with the exception of BBBJ.
I did see one super hot girl there, but she was someone that had been called in, not a regular.
This rating chit chat is getting a bit pedantic. Perhaps we should change the 1 to 10 system to 1 to 100 with fractions carried out to 2 places?
Has anybody gone to the strip club on Calle 44 between Carerra 72 and Carerra 74. I have seen a lot of good looking women standing outside of it. While driving past. I walked past last night, and saw this beautiful and sexy girl walking up and going inside of it. But I was with one of my girls so I couldn't go in.
[QUOTE=Jooks;2221766]This rating chit chat is getting a bit pedantic. Perhaps we should change the 1 to 10 system to 1 to 100 with fractions carried out to 2 places?[/QUOTE]Hear! Hear! That rating nonsense harkens back to a day and a macho mindset that assumed you were desperate if you were paying for it. And realistically, there is no way to rate a woman's looks. Its all a matter of taste and perspective and your background as well. When I grew up, I only had an interest in lily white girls. Now, I don't like them. Your life experiences open things up for you. What a 20 something from a sheltered background would think is hot, would possibly look rather plain to me. Guys will report that they can't find a hot chick at a certain location, brothel or venue. And then I show up there and say, WTF? How could you not find a nice piece of ass, here. Things like that make me doubt the veracity of such field reports.
And it also reeks of overcompensation, like the guys who are fixated on getting the "hottest" girls. Hey, I was married to a beautiful East European woman for 13 years. I've had a few others for short term relationships. I once dated an ex-model. I've also had a fat girlfriend, a few chubby girlfriends, and one that was just plain homely. I have the fondest memories of the ones that were the least attractive because they were generally better at conversation, and knew how to do actual useful things like cook and clean, instead of expecting to be entertained. There there were a few that were "unconventional" beauties. These were girls that had some odd looks that would turn conventional guys off, but excited unconventional guys like me. And for good reason: they were best in bed. That said, I've nothing to prove to myself or to anyone else. Frankly, I'm more interested in finding a dwarf and a cross-eyed WG just for the experience. One can always find "Hot" girls if they have the money for them.
When I read about guys who are fixed on finding the "10's" or the chicks, I think we are dealing with guys who never had a pretty girlfriend when they were young and probably never had one ever. Maybe because they were chasing the unicorn and they could never settle for what was all around them. They thought their girlfriends needed to be Playboy centerfold material and nothing less. I had a friend who actually thought that. He never got laid.
When I was young, there were always those smartass guys who would find something wrong with any girl that anyone else found attractive. "Awww, she's a dog. " "Man, you like that? She ain't got no tits. " "She ain't so hot". I met those kind of guys in Junior High. In my 20's, I ran into the same type of guys. But by that time, something had become obvious. They never got laid. They never had a girlfriend. They never had dates. And they probably never had. If they discovered the mongering world, I doubt they are getting laid much either, because they are too busy finding something lacking in women all around the world.
[QUOTE=Jooks;2221766]This rating chit chat is getting a bit pedantic. Perhaps we should change the 1 to 10 system to 1 to 100 with fractions carried out to 2 places?[/QUOTE]Pardon me if the numbering system offends you. I actually thought it was a term of art that all mongers understand. But I did also post some pictures of what I like so that the non-statisticians could make a qualitative judgement. Do you do better, as well or worse? Remember both chicas posted have at least 10 advertisements.
I guess the bottom line for me is that Medellin is a place for inexpensive good and sometimes kinky sex with thousands of girl-next-door types. It is not a place for the short-term tourist to find a top-drawer hooker. Somehow spending hours on the metro or cruising casas and bars in Centro is not a very good solution for me. I compare Medellin to the Philippines and Pattaya for quality. I qualify my opinion by saying that I have only been in Medellin for twenty days total in my life so the reader can assign whatever weight he wants to the opinion.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221835]Pardon me if the numbering system offends you. I actually thought it was a term of art that all mongers understand. But I did also post some pictures of what I like so that the non-statisticians could make a qualitative judgement. Do you do better, as well or worse? Remember both chicas posted have at least 10 advertisements.
I guess the bottom line for me is that Medellin is a place for inexpensive good and sometimes kinky sex with thousands of girl-next-door types. It is not a place for the short-term tourist to find a top-drawer hooker. Somehow spending hours on the metro or cruising casas and bars in Centro is not a very good solution for me. I compare Medellin to the Philippines and Pattaya for quality. I qualify my opinion by saying that I have only been in Medellin for twenty days total in my life so the reader can assign whatever weight he wants to the opinion.[/QUOTE]Boss Man.
I don't know your usual destinations for this hobby, other than you said you've hung out in Buenos Aires. I'm wondering if you've been to Sao Paulo? I've seen more "stunners" (IMO of course) in Sao Paulo than in the rest of the world combined. Quality and quantity unparalleled. But generally prices are high and it's not an easy city to navigate.
FWIW I think the Colombian women are in general more attractive than the Argentinas. I would choose MDE over BA every time. But again, everyone's taste is different. There's no one place or one woman that will appeal to every hobbyist.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221835]Pardon me if the numbering system offends you. [/QUOTE]Sorry, I guess I left out the emojis, it was meant to be funny. I was not meant to be a comic. I found the bickering about ratings to be amusing, hence the comment.
[QUOTE=Combo;2221855]Boss Man.
I don't know your usual destinations for this hobby, other than you said you've hung out in Buenos Aires. I'm wondering if you've been to Sao Paulo? I've seen more "stunners" (IMO of course) in Sao Paulo than in the rest of the world combined. Quality and quantity unparalleled. But generally prices are high and it's not an easy city to navigate.
FWIW I think the Colombian women are in general more attractive than the Argentinas. I would choose MDE over BA every time. But again, everyone's taste is different. There's no one place or one woman that will appeal to every hobbyist.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is by far the best mongering city in the world. I actually wrote something up on this topic as I have been thinking about it since I returned home from Medellin but I stupidly deleted it instead of saving it somewhere because I did not want to spam up this thread. I might try again in the Chitchat thread if you're interested. I should write these things in a word editor anyway because my spelling and grammar skills seem to be deteriorating as I age.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221877]Sao Paulo is by far the best mongering city in the world. I actually wrote something up on this topic as I have been thinking about it since I returned home from Medellin but I stupidly deleted it instead of saving it somewhere because I did not want to spam up this thread. I might try again in the Chitchat thread if you're interested. I should write these things in a word editor anyway because my spelling and grammar skills seem to be deteriorating as I age.[/QUOTE]The Tall Man just got to pipe in here, in my total mongering career spanning decades, the most stunning and beautiful woman I have ever had the pleasure of making love to was in 2000 in Rio and GUESS WHAT? She was born and raised in San Paolo.
Yep 18 years latter and she still is on my mind.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2221877]Sao Paulo is by far the best mongering city in the world.................[/QUOTE]I like Sao Paulo, Medellin and Bangkok but for me the best mongering city in the world is Frankfurt. No establishments in the world can beat the FKKs and for those so inclined there are walkups in the red light district. I like sessioning hot babes and the hottest providers in the world are definitely to be found at FKKs. Fancy yourself entering an establishment and seeing over 100 beautiful naked Caucasian women! And its totally legal!
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2221710][URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ4UUieFsIy/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BZziF5Kl2Dn/?hl=en[/URL]
This is a 10 for me..[/QUOTE]That is pretty damn hot. Thanks. Got to get my ass to MDE.
This is supposed to be a Medellin Reports thread about the chicas and where they are.
It gets hard for me to keep the Lists and Map up to date when you put crap in the wrong place.
Please put other country things in there proper place.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2221786]Has anybody gone to the strip club on Calle 44 between Carerra 72 and Carerra 74. I have seen a lot of good looking women standing outside of it. While driving past. I walked past last night, and saw this beautiful and sexy girl walking up and going inside of it. But I was with one of my girls so I couldn't go in.[/QUOTE]Do you have a name for the place?
I'm planning to stay at Mansion. Can someone post the link to their website?
How much should I expect to pay the chicas there? Anyone I connect with on FB wants 200 K?
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2221786]Has anybody gone to the strip club on Calle 44 between Carerra 72 and Carerra 74. I have seen a lot of good looking women standing outside of it. While driving past. I walked past last night, and saw this beautiful and sexy girl walking up and going inside of it. But I was with one of my girls so I couldn't go in.[/QUOTE]I went there tonight. The name is Apoteosis. The address is CL 44 (San Juan) approximately #74-50. They have a large sign, so if you are close, you can see it. Consider I was there on a Sunday night before midnight when reading this review. I arrived about 9:30 and stayed until a little after 11:30. There was only one other customer in the place. During the two hours I was there, there were only two girls on stage for one song each. When I arrived, I think there were only three girls working. Before I left, at least five more came in. Only one girl had what I classify as a typical Latina body. Small waist and shapely. I think she knew it because she had an attitude. There was one who was huge! Most were thick in the midsection. The second hour I was there, the girls got pushy wanting me to buy drinks.
There was no cover charge. Beers were only 10 mil, and the two drinks I bought for the ladies were also 10 mil each. They have No Smoking signs, but the girls were smoking, and my clothes smelled like smoke when I left. They have rooms on site. I asked one of the girls the price and she told me 110 mil. I didn't ask for specifics because I didn't want her to think I was interested. She was already pushy enough. They are open every night from 7 pm to 3 am.
Hi everybody,
I'm heading back to Colombia and lost contact with this girl I used to see there. Great service man.
Her name is Alegandra. See the picture attached. Any of you can pin point where she is located now?
Or has contact with her?
Thanks.
This is what this thread is for. I added it to the Map.
[B]Apoteosis Club[/B]
Avenida San Juan (Calle 44) #74-50. __ Chicas. Prices: ? 110 k. Tel: (57) 4 230 3325. Hours: 7 pm to 3 am.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2222148]This is supposed to be a Medellin Reports thread about the chicas and where they are.
It gets hard for me to keep the Lists and Map up to date when you put crap in the wrong place.
Please put other country things in there proper place.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL][/QUOTE]
Report to follow.
Sorry I will not be providing any names or contact info for these girls. Please do not ask.
An observation and a question:
1. I can understand why you would not want to share contact information but with that in mind I'm confused about the purpose of posting the photos.
2. Does one of the girls really have "fuck you" tattooed on her ass?
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2222759]Report to follow.
Sorry I will not be providing any names or contact info for these girls. Please do not ask.[/QUOTE]
Name four of them. Well known on FB and been around. Nice fotos, though.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2222759]Report to follow.
Sorry I will not be providing any names or contact info for these girls. Please do not ask.[/QUOTE]
I am no fool. I expect that others on this board have been with all these girls. The mongering community is a small one even in a city the size of 4 million people.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2222775]Name four of them. Well known on FB and been around. Nice fotos, though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2222773]
Does one of the girls really have "fuck you" tattooed on her ass?
[/QUOTE]Yes the chick has "Fuck You' on her ass.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2222798]Yes the chick has "Fuck You' on her ass.[/QUOTE]This girl facebook name leraldin gomez (unico perfil) she always adding sexy photos on her facebook.
Hey guys,
I'll be in MDE with a few friends over the next week. We speak pretty much zero Spanish so we might have a hard time visiting casas. I know FB is a big way to find visitors here, but also was wondering if anyone could share some whatsapp numbers? We would much rather prefer guests coming over to our apartment (Poblado). Anything helps, thanks!
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2222759]Report to follow.
Sorry I will not be providing any names or contact info for these girls. Please do not ask.[/QUOTE]Nice pics, thanks.
What's the average price you pay these girls?
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2222759]Report to follow.
Sorry I will not be providing any names or contact info for these girls. Please do not ask.[/QUOTE]Just posting to show us how Facebook savvy you are, LOL.
[QUOTE=Dextuercutler9;2222810]Hey guys,
I'll be in MDE with a few friends over the next week. We speak pretty much zero Spanish so we might have a hard time visiting casas. I know FB is a big way to find visitors here, but also was wondering if anyone could share some whatsapp numbers? We would much rather prefer guests coming over to our apartment (Poblado). Anything helps, thanks![/QUOTE]Anyone can visit a casa. Just download the map of casa on this site or print out a list of the addresses to give to a taxi driver.
Facebook chicks don't want some random guy that they have never seen before calling them up. Facebook chicks want to see what they are getting into before coming over.
Newbie + No Spanish = Mansion.
[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]
Doubt if they have any open rooms but if they do book it.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2222859]Nice pics, thanks.
What's the average price you pay these girls?[/QUOTE]I recognize a few of them. I've never paid more than 150-200 mil, plus taxi.
Dear members,
Please can you tell me (or post a link) to Medellin's casa list? (Should be in Med. Reports, but where?) I tried the integrated search, but no luck.
A second question please: are there good possibilities you can recommend in El Poblado? It will be my first time in Col, arriving Friday. No Spanish, therefore it will be "newbie time", had experiences in Brasil and spoke a little Portuguese, not good, but enough to talk with and have fun with the garotas.
I'm happy for all your advices you will share with me, not only about questions above!
Thank you!
Max.
[QUOTE=Dextuercutler9;2222810]Hey guys,
I'll be in MDE with a few friends over the next week. We speak pretty much zero Spanish so we might have a hard time visiting casas. I know FB is a big way to find visitors here, but also was wondering if anyone could share some whatsapp numbers? We would much rather prefer guests coming over to our apartment (Poblado). Anything helps, thanks![/QUOTE]Sure. Doesn't everyone give out personal contact information to complete strangers?
Just post your WhatsApp number here so everyone can send you numbers. As a bonus, you'll double your post count.
Within the next two weeks. I already have a strong list of girls [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. I don't use Lavenee Restrepo or Photoprepagos. Take my word, the best way to find the best girls at the best rates, is to put in some ground work in centro & Vera Cruz. I have a list of chicas 20 strong in Medellin not to mention girls throughout the country. Only country I've ever been you can fly from city to city round trip for $125 USD. Not bad at all, Bogota, Cartagena, Baranquillas, Cali, and many other cities through out the country. It's quite clear that many of you guys aren't asking the right questions and allowing the girls to have their way. You want to know if a girl does everything under the sun, here's a freebie. Type this into your messenger or communication app. "I want, oral, vaginal, anal, photos, and videos, and I want you to stick milk along with oral natural! " if she gives you a rate, she does everything, if she types "sin anal or sin oral natural! " pass her ass up, too many girls in Medellin that do everything for you to be settling for less. BTW, I keep most girls 24 hours, date, dinner, unlimited pops. I rarely pay over $800 mil for an all day session. If you're a one-fer, or your johnson isn't spontaneous as a 20 year old stud, you may want to take the house and a half route for nothing more than $150 mil COP. I'm glad to see that everything is talked about on this stream except girls & rates. I salute you gringos paying $200 USD. You must be richer than Guy Ritchie. I wonder what makes the girls so much more expensive in Poblado than centro? I know for a fact, I'll never venture out there, the gringos have made the rates so unbeatable that only a wealthy guy with unlimited money would want to pay them rates. Have fun guys, blow your money how you see fit, if you're not too pocket shame to tell us what you spent, add a post to the forum. BTW, I'm throwing a week long party in Medellin the second week of November, if you're in Medellin then, chime in, food and drinks on me! Pollonegro is out!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2222773]Does one of the girls really have "fuck you" tattooed on her ass?[/QUOTE]Here's a FUCK ME.
[QUOTE=Dextuercutler9;2222810]Hey guys,
I'll be in MDE with a few friends over the next week. We speak pretty much zero Spanish so we might have a hard time visiting casas. I know FB is a big way to find visitors here, but also was wondering if anyone could share some whatsapp numbers? We would much rather prefer guests coming over to our apartment (Poblado). Anything helps, thanks![/QUOTE]I just got here yesterday and I'm about to start doing casa runs. I speak Spanish so hit me up when you get here if you want to try one out I'll go with you. It's a fun experience.
[QUOTE=Maxonaut;2222996]Dear members,
Please can you tell me (or post a link) to Medellin's casa list? (Should be in Med. Reports, but where?) I tried the integrated search, but no luck.
A second question please: are there good possibilities you can recommend in El Poblado? It will be my first time in Col, arriving Friday. No Spanish, therefore it will be "newbie time", had experiences in Brasil and spoke a little Portuguese, not good, but enough to talk with and have fun with the garotas.
I'm happy for all your advices you will share with me, not only about questions above!
Thank you!
Max.[/QUOTE]Go to front page.
Click on Colombia.
Scroll down to Medellíand lists and click.
I gave you the best advice where to stay.
But as the saying goes You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink jajaja.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2223058]Within the next two weeks. I already have a strong list of girls. I don't use Lavenee Restrepo or Photoprepagos. Take my word, the best way to find the best girls at the best rates, is to put in some ground work in centro & Vera Cruz. I have a list of chicas 20 strong in Medellin not to mention girls throughout the country. Only country I've ever been you can fly from city to city round trip for $125 USD. Not bad at all, Bogota, Cartagena, Baranquillas, Cali, and many other cities through out the country. It's quite clear that many of you guys aren't asking the right questions and allowing the girls to have their way. You want to know if a girl does everything under the sun, here's a freebie. Type this into your messenger or communication app. "I want, oral, vaginal, anal, photos, and videos, and I want you to stick milk along with oral natural! " if she gives you a rate, she does everything, if she types "sin anal or sin oral natural! " pass her ass up, too many girls in Medellin that do everything for you to be settling for less. BTW, I keep most girls 24 hours, date, dinner, unlimited pops.[/QUOTE]For someone so completely in tune with the El Centro scene, you're singing in the wrong key. Don't get me wrong. I'm a founding member of the "It's your money, pay what you want" club. However, 800 k is within a few k of the minimum monthly wage. It's actually over minimum wage (monthly), but there's a transportation allowance, which brings it to 818 k. And on some occasions you're paying more? Plus food, drinks, dates? 150 k for one and done is 5 to 6 times what those girls are normally getting in El Centro. I can't imagine you would have any problem getting them to agree to that. Why limit yourself to 20?
To put it into perspective, I never paid more than 200 k in El Poblado or Laureles and paid 100 k on a few occasions. One was only 1 hour, most were at least 2 hours and 1 was all night. Two others wanted to stay all night, for what I paid them, but I wasn't feeling it. Most were offering more than 1 pop, although only 2 actually got a second leche from me. Both initiated the 2nd, 3rd and 4th attempt and worked to finally get it. I've always been a 1 and done guy, so getting a second round out of me takes a lot of initiative. Getting a 2nd leche from me takes perseverance.
Now, those guys paying $200 in El Poblado are paying 3 or 4 times the going rate in El Poblado, while you're paying 5 or 6 times the going rate in El Centro. And weren't you the guy claiming he has unlimited money?
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2151472]I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.[/QUOTE]And then complained about guys penny pinching?
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2172313]Come on guys. How did we get here? Going abroad to begin penny pinching?[/QUOTE]Pick a side, man. Should people be paying way more than the going rate, like you do, or should they be paying El Poblado rates in El Centro (like you do)? I've got no problem with what you pay, but you really aren't in a position to criticize others for paying too much.
As a final note, I never paid more than 150 k for a 1 way ticket for flights within Colombia, and usually prices of 70 k or less can be found. That was just a last minute flight I needed to take and couldn't shop for the best price.
BTW, I am for hire. 8 million COP per month and I'll cut your one and done rates by 60%, your overnight rates by 75% and your internal travel by 50%.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2223058] a wealthy guy with unlimited money [/QUOTE]I thought you said that was you?
El Mechanico.
These are some of the girls that caught my eye on la vane's whatsapp group. Does anyone know who these girls are on facebook so I can deal with them directly instead of having to pay extra. She's asking for 300 mil an hour plus taxi which is too much imo. Plus apperantly some of these girls only offer covered bj at this price.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2222985]
Newbie + No Spanish = Mansion.
[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]
Doubt if they have any open rooms but if they do book it.[/QUOTE]Actually, they have plenty of rooms available at the moment.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2223354]These are some of the girls that caught my eye on la vane's whatsapp group. Does anyone know who these girls are on facebook so I can deal with them directly instead of having to pay extra. She's asking for 300 mil an hour plus taxi which is too much imo. Plus apperantly some of these girls only offer covered bj at this price.[/QUOTE]I was about to post the same thing. Trying to deal with them directly through facebook.
I'm not familiar w Mangos. I did a quick search on Google maps for "Energia & Potencia" and it is marked on the map fine. It's the one on Cra 42 in Itagui, very close to the Dept of Motor Vehicles. Can you find it now? So, Int Club is directly opp that store, on the other side of the road. .
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2220790]I added them to the Map, But not sure about the exact location of the International club.
Is it that close to Mangos?[/QUOTE]
Hello all,
Sorry for asking this here but I was not getting responses on the Colombia general forum.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2223075&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2223075.
Anyone familiar with this?
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.max...cation-2017-10[/URL]
It's 5 k for 4 days all inclusive sex resort. I'm positive the experience isn't worth the price but thought I'd ask anyways thanks fellas.
Have you even bothered reading any of the posts here? Then again, please spend 5 k and report back to us. I am sure everyone here will love to read it.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2223401]Hello all,
Sorry for asking this here but I was not getting responses on the Colombia general forum.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2223075&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2223075.
Anyone familiar with this?
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.max...cation-2017-10[/URL]
It's 5 k for 4 days all inclusive sex resort. I'm positive the experience isn't worth the price but thought I'd ask anyways thanks fellas.[/QUOTE].
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/herrera23105[/URL]
Had a blast with this girl on my recent first time visit to Medellin, great looks great attitude and a great fuck.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2223444]Surely you jest. Or either the guy with unlimited funds has not been to many countries. I regularly do a 3 hour international roundtrip Manila to Bangkok for that price. I remember me and another board member bought a ticket from Angeles City to Bangkok for $1! Europe has Ryan Air. Asia has Air Asia.[/QUOTE]On the same continent, one can fly roundtrip Sao Paulo- Rio for under $100. Same with Lima-Cuzco, Buenos Aires- Iguazu, and Quito-Guayaquil.
I don't mean to pile on, but that guy's posts are some of the more nonsensical stuff you can read on this board.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2223354]These are some of the girls that caught my eye on la vane's whatsapp group. Does anyone know who these girls are on facebook so I can deal with them directly instead of having to pay extra. She's asking for 300 mil an hour plus taxi which is too much imo. Plus apperantly some of these girls only offer covered bj at this price.[/QUOTE]I was never able to get my first choices from La Vane during the last two weeks of August at the 250 k pesos price. All three delivered BBBJ but that was specified upfront. Also be aware even if they are on Facebook, the Facebook photos will be fake if the photos on La Vane's whatsapp group are fake. The photos will be fake either by disguising tattoos or the pictures will be from a younger age.
The three chicas introduced by Vane that I met were all excellent performers. Far less inhibited than the apartment girls I visited. Although I am still trying to figure out what the difference is between CIM and licking your dick clean after you come. Maybe fear of choking?
Vane can deliver what you want sexually. She cannot guarantee you will get the chica in terms of optics that you want. At least, that was my experience. She was also able to find a replacement when one chica opted out in the last hour. The replacement turned out to be my favorite on the trip. Vane provides a good service but I do not think she can deliver creme de la creme. I would recommend her if you have the right expectations. Also she can tell you usually within 10 minutes if a chica is available. It is far faster process than working through Facebook.
Why the prices are rising I do not know. Maybe too many guys competing for too few chicas.
So does she have access to all the girls she posts? I've seen a few very nice ones with professional quality photos. A couple I will like to try out.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2223456]I was never able to get my first choices from La Vane during the last two weeks of August at the 250 k pesos price. All three delivered BBBJ but that was specified upfront. Also be aware even if they are on Facebook, the Facebook photos will be fake if the photos on La Vane's whatsapp group are fake. The photos will be fake either by disguising tattoos or the pictures will be from a younger age.
The three chicas introduced by Vane that I met were all excellent performers. Far less inhibited than the apartment girls I visited. Although I am still trying to figure out what the difference is between CIM and licking your dick clean after you come. Maybe fear of choking?
Vane can deliver what you want sexually. She cannot guarantee you will get the chica in terms of optics that you want. At least, that was my experience. She was also able to find a replacement when one chica opted out in the last hour. The replacement turned out to be my favorite on the trip. Vane provides a good service but I do not think she can deliver creme de la creme. I would recommend her if you have the right expectations. Also she can tell you usually within 10 minutes if a chica is available. It is far faster process than working through Facebook.
Why the prices are rising I do not know. Maybe too many guys competing for too few chicas.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2223429]1. Money or 2. Time, I got an abundance of both, but those who are financially stable "don't talk about it! "[/QUOTE]Rather contradictory. Since you have been posting here, you have talked about your abundance of funds.
Silicone or saline?
[QUOTE=MrSmasher;2223440][URL]https://www.facebook.com/herrera23105[/URL]
Had a blast with this girl on my recent first time visit to Medellin, great looks great attitude and a great fuck.[/QUOTE]
I just spent 20 nights in Medellin exclusively working Facebook, and it was a lot of work! A shit load actually. I had plans to hit the Centro P4P clubs, the Poblado bars & restaurants, and La 70, but I didn't even have the energy as I was so busy with the Facebook girls. I ended up fucking 11 FB girls (6 are pictured in my post on Monday), and I will be repeating with 8-9 of those 11 girls on my next trip. All the girls I saw were in the 150-200 k + taxi category.
Back in June, I casually sent a couple hundred requests to Medellin girls on FB Messenger. I got a response rate of about 20-25%, and categorized the girls into groups. A few days before my arrival I began working the chat scene to have appointments on the first day of my trip. That work continued throughout my entire stay like an addiction.
In my first 7 days I had 3 excellent sessions with 3 chicas. I also had 3 disappointing sessions with 3 other chicas. The disappointing ones were: one showed up and was incredibly personable & bubbly, but ended up being a mechanical control freak in the sack. Another showed up and was at least 6-8 years older & 10-12 lbs heavier than her photo. The last purposefully showed up late playing games on Whattsapp. Fortunately, I was able to salvage a little bit on these 3 bad ones by negotiating down the price with each, and waiting in the comforts of my condo. Also, one of the 3 bad ones I saw again, and she was a good performer this time around. I will repeat with her.
After the first week's shitty experiences, I decided to require more than just agreement on price for services, I. E. 180 k for oral natural, etc before seeing any new chica. I decided to require punctuality, consent to certain sexual proclivities of mine (all run of the mill stuff), and also video chats in some cases. The result was that I did not have one more bad session; 2 of the 5 new girls were about 10 lbs heavier than their pics, but they still looked good and their attitude & service was good.
Th bigger result of my new found requirements was the increased work involved. I was putting each girl through more scrutiny which was requiring more time & effort, and the chatting scene is already a time-heavy task. After the first week, there were at least 15-17 girls that I chatted with extensively, but never came close to seeing. They were either too flaky, or unwilling to video call or regular call. All the extra work I was putting into an already intense chatting scene was draining me. By my last few days I was exhausted!
In conclusion, Facebook is an incredible mechanism for P4P. You can speak directly with the girl eliminating all agencies, and see many pics of that girl in most cases. I found many girls who are excellent GFE providers. My only advice is beware the predator that is the prostitute. They have metastasized to Facebook as well. The bottom half of prostitutes, we all know, want to scam you by lying about services, changing prices, showing up late, etc, and there are plenty of these predators on Facebook. My first week, I found myself being lured into the comforts of the Facebook profile, the comforts of "being able to see so many pics, and texting with them, etc". I was forgetting that they are prostitutes, and must be handled with caution, especially on the first rendezvous.
Hope this report was entertaining. The trip certainly was for me!
Sent from my iPad.
I read about her charging 450 and almost fell off my chair. I don't blame her for attempting to get so much from mongers that are what she and her friends calls 'bobos' fools. I use Facebook exclusively. I never pay more than 200 to 250 k for multiple pops. 300 k for all nighter. What is it with people here trying to justify paying these prices? Is it because they can not speak Spanish and it is obvious that they are easy targets? For the record, I don't have sessions with centro girls and I don't usually have sessions with "mansion " girls as they are usually overrated in appearance and overpriced. You can for find the "mansion" girls in Facebook.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2220843]She sent some pics of some hot girls last night and I asked her how much they were and she said 450 mil an hour.
Yes the girls that I want too are always not available when I ask. There was this one girl who was coming said she was going to be like an hour late so I said forget it. Then the next day she was suppose to come and then said she had to wait for baby sitter so she would be like 2 hours late so I just told her nevermind. Ain't got time to wait around for hookers to show up.
Yeah I don't think 150 or even 200 k is doable for 8+ on facebook. I told this 8 Ill pay 200 and she laughed and said that is too little and she wanted 250. I didnt respond to her. These girls think they are worth more now and people are willing to pay it.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2223465]So does she have access to all the girls she posts? I've seen a few very nice ones with professional quality photos. A couple I will like to try out.
.[/QUOTE]My opinion is that the answer is "no" all the girls she posts are not available. There are bait and switch photos on the whatsapp list. However I never asked Vani if the the better looking chicas were available at a higher price. The 250 k price for 90 minutes and 2 relations originally came from her thread. The specification that I needed french kiss, 69, and BBBJ came from me. Now I wish I would not have erased the thread on Whatsapp so I could pass on the actual quotes. I use Google Translate so I could have missed something.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2223708]However I never asked Vani if the the better looking chicas were available at a higher price.[/QUOTE]Why would you do that? Just because they looked better to you, they may not have thought they looked any better than a 50 K downtown chick. Either make an offer or ask how much. But I would not talk myself into a higher price. If anything, point out their flaws and try to get a lower price. Keep them hoes off of pedastals. I guess that one in the black bikini will do. I really don't like her (fill in the blank) though. How much for her?
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2222798]Yes the chick has "Fuck You' on her ass.[/QUOTE]I will never understand why any beautiful woman will fuck up her body with getting all tatted up, and many of the tats are butt ugly (pun intended, jajaja).
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2223726]Why would you do that? Just because they looked better to you, they may not have thought they looked any better than a 50 K downtown chick. Either make an offer or ask how much. But I would not talk myself into a higher price. If anything, point out their flaws and try to get a lower price. Keep them hoes off of pedastals. I guess that one in the black bikini will do. I really don't like her (fill in the blank) though. How much for her?[/QUOTE]Of course, this is all goes back to my original premise. Medellin is comparable to Pattaya and the Phillipines. You can have all the quality sex you want with girl next door types for cost of between 50 k and 250 k pesos depending on where you want to play and whether or not you use an arranger. Nobody has reported yet how to score with the higher-level chicas in Medellin and what that cost would be. We argued about the rating system (A "9" is subjective). We argued that the guys playing at Gustos are paying $200 USD for girls you can find at the Mansion for $150 k pesos. The chicas at Gustos are not really 8 or 9's.
Yet in other cities you can find the prices of the high-end chicas. In Zurich, we read one guy spends $1000 CHF every time he goes to the Globe and other regulars are complaining that they cannot get to the top-tier girls for short time. In Sao Paulo, you can probably score a an 8 or a 9 at Scandallo and spend around 1000 reals for the night. I know that when Bahamas (it was owned by the publisher of Brazil Penthouse) was a top club you could.
I even believe that guys that have spent two years in Medellin riding the metro have found 8's and 9's. But the one-week tourist is just not scoring the high-end babes in Medellin in my opinion.
I guess I do not understand why there cannot be a high-end place in Medellin. Why can't Medellin have a Lido?
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2223739]Of course, this is all goes back to my original premise. Medellin is comparable to Pattaya and the Phillipines. You can have all the quality sex you want with girl next door types for cost of between 50 k and 250 k pesos depending on where you want to play and whether or not you use an arranger. Nobody has reported yet how to score with the higher-level chicas in Medellin and what that cost would be. We argued about the rating system (A "9" is subjective). We argued that the guys playing at Gustos are paying $200 USD for girls you can find at the Mansion for $150 k pesos. The chicas at Gustos are not really 8 or 9's.
Yet in other cities you can find the prices of the high-end chicas. In Zurich, we read one guy spends $1000 CHF every time he goes to the Globe and other regulars are complaining that they cannot get to the top-tier girls for short time. In Sao Paulo, you can probably score a an 8 or a 9 at Scandallo and spend around 1000 reals for the night. I know that when Bahamas (it was owned by the publisher of Brazil Penthouse) was a top club you could.
I even believe that guys that have spent two years in Medellin riding the metro have found 8's and 9's. But the one-week tourist is just not scoring the high-end babes in Medellin in my opinion.
I guess I do not understand why there cannot be a high-end place in Medellin. Why can't Medellin have a Lido?[/QUOTE]There is one in Medellin, called La Isla.
I've given this advice before, but it needs repeating.
If what you are looking for is at Lido in Bogota, go to Bogota. If it's in Sao Paulo, Zurich, Munich or Davenport, Iowa, don't go to Medellin looking for it, because it's not there. You don't go to Phoenix looking for a place to ski.
There are a lot of issues, besides that one.
1. La Vane. Every time someone mentions her chica list she gets over 100 requests for the WhatsApp group. 99 are from guys just collecting pictures. All these people are wasting her time. For a serious consumer, that's the wrong time to buy.
2. Facebook. Most of the girls found on Facebook are using their normal profile. A few use a puta profile. If you're dealing with a puta profile, you're getting a puta. You're going to get transactional sex. Settle on service and price and that's all you'll get. If you're dealing with a normal profile and you treat her like a puta, the best you can expect is to get puta service at a much higher price.
3. Time. Most guys are just in town for a few days. They want to hit whatever their quota is, each day. One late girl and the schedule is fucked. Getting the hottest girls at a reasonable price takes time and when you get them, they'll still show up late. Find a way to get your quota while saving time to cultivate the relationships. If you're feeling pressured to close the deal, you won't get the best of it. Save her for next trip.
4. Adjust your expectations to fit the local environment. Medellin presents its own set of challenges. Don't expect Pattaya or Manila tactics to work. Medellin has its own advantages too. When you get dialed in to that, it becomes easier.
I went there solo 3 or 4 years ago. I had some drinks. I took a chica to one of their onsite rooms.
I walked out looking for a taxi. They said "no no. " and they had me get into one of their cars with the La Isla signs. I really didn't want to get in one because I thought I was about to get gouged. But actually they took me back to the Mila de Oro for free. I tried to tip the driver and he waived it off.
So they were not about to let a 60 year old non-Spanish speaker leave their club and get into some kind of trouble. Maybe I paid for the service when I closed the bill. Who knows?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2223774]There is one in Medellin, called La Isla.
I've given this advice before, but it needs repeating.
If what you are looking for is at Lido in Bogota, go to Bogota. If it's in Sao Paulo, Zurich, Munich or Davenport, Iowa, don't go to Medellin looking for it, because it's not there. You don't go to Phoenix looking for a place to ski.
There are a lot of issues, besides that one.
1. La Vane. Every time someone mentions her chica list she gets over 100 requests for the WhatsApp group. 99 are from guys just collecting pictures. All these people are wasting her time. For a serious consumer, that's the wrong time to buy.
2. Facebook. Most of the girls found on Facebook are using their normal profile. A few use a puta profile. If you're dealing with a puta profile, you're getting a puta. You're going to get transactional sex. Settle on service and price and that's all you'll get. If you're dealing with a normal profile and you treat her like a puta, the best you can expect is to get puta service at a much higher price..[/QUOTE]It gets no clearer than this and if you deviate from this passage, you will surely get what you're not looking for! Pollonegro is out!
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2223551]I just spent 20 nights in Medellin exclusively working Facebook, and it was a lot of work! A shit load actually. I had plans to hit the Centro P4P clubs, the Poblado bars & restaurants, and La 70, but I didn't even have the energy as I was so busy with the Facebook girls. I ended up fucking 11 FB girls (6 are pictured in my post on Monday), and I will be repeating with 8-9 of those 11 girls on my next trip. All the girls I saw were in the 150-200 k + taxi category.
Back in June, I casually sent a couple hundred requests to Medellin girls on FB Messenger. I got a response rate of about 20-25%, and categorized the girls into groups. A few days before my arrival I began working the chat scene to have appointments on the first day of my trip. That work continued throughout my entire stay like an addiction.
In my first 7 days I had 3 excellent sessions with 3 chicas. I also had 3 disappointing sessions with 3 other chicas. The disappointing ones were: one showed up and was incredibly personable & bubbly, but ended up being a mechanical control freak in the sack. Another showed up and was at least 6-8 years older & 10-12 lbs heavier than her photo. The last purposefully showed up late playing games on Whattsapp. Fortunately, I was able to salvage a little bit on these 3 bad ones by negotiating down the price with each, and waiting in the comforts of my condo. Also, one of the 3 bad ones I saw again, and she was a good performer this time around. I will repeat with her..[/QUOTE]I think your report is excellent in highlighting the fact that it takes lot of time and effort to line up these girls from facebook. I am planning my second trip to Medellin and going thru the same cycle as you. BTW sent you a pm for specific intel on couple of girls you met. Keep it rolling.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2223738]I will never understand why any beautiful woman will fuck up her body with getting all tatted up, and many of the tats are butt ugly (pun intended, jajaja).
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I could not agree with you more, I hate tattoos. I'll bang a chica with tattoos as it has zero effect on performance but you'll never see me have a girl on my "regular" list if she has any large tattoos or a ton of small ones, not a chance.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2223738]I will never understand why any beautiful woman will fuck up her body with getting all tatted up, and many of the tats are butt ugly (pun intended, jajaja).
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I really think that is a old guy thing about not liking tats. I am young and I love a girl with tats. Seeing so many sexy women with tats is such a turn on. I will choose a women just cause of her tats.
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2224171]I really think that is a old guy thing about not liking tats. I am young and I love a girl with tats. Seeing so many sexy women with tats is such a turn on. I will choose a women just cause of her tats.[/QUOTE]Tats are puta decorations. If you see a civilian with lots of tats, make your move, she's easily available.
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2224171]I really think that is a old guy thing about not liking tats. I am young and I love a girl with tats. Seeing so many sexy women with tats is such a turn on. I will choose a women just cause of her tats.[/QUOTE]Tats are definitely a younger generation thing and what a change in culture! When I was growing up in the 80's only losers & freaks had tattoos. You didn't even think about getting a tattoo then. If you had a tat then you were a druggie, Harley criminal or his * An exception was ex-military having tats from their platoon.
I can't speak for the entire USA, but things have changed drastically here on the west coast. It's practically normal now to have tattoos, and very large tattoos in multiple places. Millennials have no problems with others having tats, and don't degrade another person at all for having them.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2223551]I just spent 20 nights in Medellin exclusively working Facebook, and it was a lot of work! A shit load actually. I had plans to hit the Centro P4P clubs, the Poblado bars & restaurants, and La 70, but I didn't even have the energy as I was so busy with the Facebook girls. I ended up fucking 11 FB girls (6 are pictured in my post on Monday), and I will be repeating with 8-9 of those 11 girls on my next trip. All the girls I saw were in the 150-200 k + taxi category.
Back in June, I casually sent a couple hundred requests to Medellin girls on FB Messenger. I got a response rate of about 20-25%, and categorized the girls into groups. A few days before my arrival I began working the chat scene to have appointments on the first day of my trip. That work continued throughout my entire stay like an addiction.
In my first 7 days I had 3 excellent sessions with 3 chicas. I also had 3 disappointing sessions with 3 other chicas. The disappointing ones were: one showed up and was incredibly personable & bubbly, but ended up being a mechanical control freak in the sack. Another showed up and was at least 6-8 years older & 10-12 lbs heavier than her photo. The last purposefully showed up late playing games on Whattsapp. Fortunately, I was able to salvage a little bit on these 3 bad ones by negotiating down the price with each, and waiting in the comforts of my condo. Also, one of the 3 bad ones I saw again, and she was a good performer this time around. I will repeat with her.
After the first week's shitty experiences, I decided to require more than just agreement on price for services, I. E. 180 k for oral natural, etc before seeing any new chica. I decided to require punctuality, consent to certain sexual proclivities of mine (all run of the mill stuff), and also video chats in some cases. The result was that I did not have one more bad session; 2 of the 5 new girls were about 10 lbs heavier than their pics, but they still looked good and their attitude & service was good.
Th bigger result of my new found requirements was the increased work involved. I was putting each girl through more scrutiny which was requiring more time & effort, and the chatting scene is already a time-heavy task. After the first week, there were at least 15-17 girls that I chatted with extensively, but never came close to seeing. They were either too flaky, or unwilling to video call or regular call. All the extra work I was putting into an already intense chatting scene was draining me. By my last few days I was exhausted!
In conclusion, Facebook is an incredible mechanism for P4P. You can speak directly with the girl eliminating all agencies, and see many pics of that girl in most cases. I found many girls who are excellent GFE providers. My only advice is beware the predator that is the prostitute. They have metastasized to Facebook as well. The bottom half of prostitutes, we all know, want to scam you by lying about services, changing prices, showing up late, etc, and there are plenty of these predators on Facebook. My first week, I found myself being lured into the comforts of the Facebook profile, the comforts of "being able to see so many pics, and texting with them, etc". I was forgetting that they are prostitutes, and must be handled with caution, especially on the first rendezvous.
Hope this report was entertaining. The trip certainly was for me!
Sent from my iPad.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. Before I went on this trip, everybody was saying or at least I was under the impression that Medellin is now primarily a Facebook scene. I think your post was the first one that made an impression on me that showed the Facebook scene is bigger investment than maybe I am willing to undertake. Also it corroborates what JjBee62 wrote that if you treat Facebook girls like prostitutes you will get a transactional experience. It seems that by spending time conversing, you get more of a relationship. I was impressed by your photos. Only 3 of the 10 chicas I had sex with were in that ballpark. For me, if I return to Medellin, I may return to my old habits of visiting the strip clubs and massage places with lineups. Asking the taxi drivers who are interested in chicas if they know anyone. Also maybe I will only spend a week in Medellin like I used to and head to Bogota or something for week 2. What I think I lose in that proposition is the kinkier sex aspects of having a chica over to a hotel or you own apartment. In the strip clubs and massage places with lineups, the chicas are more rules-based and somebody is always ready to knock on the door.
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2224171]I really think that is a old guy thing about not liking tats. I am young and I love a girl with tats. Seeing so many sexy women with tats is such a turn on. I will choose a women just cause of her tats.[/QUOTE]You are generally correct, I am 61 and never liked tattoos. I wish I was going to be around long enough to see what these girls look like when they are in their 50's and 60's,yikes.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2224192]Before I went on this trip, everybody was saying or at least I was under the impression that Medellin is now primarily a Facebook scene. What I think I lose in that proposition is the kinkier sex aspects of having a chica over to a hotel or you own apartment. In the strip clubs and massage places with lineups, the chicas are more rules-based and somebody is always ready to knock on the door.[/QUOTE]No, lots of guys go the FB route but tons of girls available elsewhere also.
FB is like online escorts to me, you do not know what you are getting, are the photos old, are the photos airbrushed, is she coo-coo for coco-puffs, or is she fun in bed and a sweetheart?
Go to the Casa's and strip clubs and redlight blocks, pick the ones you like and if she turns out to be fun have her over to your hotel the next day. My best dates in MED were strip club / redlight block girls who I had over for a 2nd date to my hotel, they were much more fun and chill the 2nd time, plus I give them a present, have music, offer them drinks / snacks / smoke, take a long hot shower together, trade cocoa butter back rubs, etc. (of course all this is more fun if you are somewhat fluent in Spanish.).
They usually turn much more GFE that way, unasked for BBBJ, kissing, etc.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2215455]If you are looking for a body massage there is a place in Belen. I enjoy this type of thing.
You find this place by looking for the classified ads under [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/.[/URL] Search for the ads that say no sex.
With the upsells I paid 220 k. The chica I was with had an incredible body. Her name is Diana.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/masajes-profesionales-no-sexo/10704937/[/URL][/QUOTE]The body slide chicas seem to be offering extras. I receive this on Whatsapp every Friday.
"SUPER PROMOCION DE AMOR why AMISTAD!!
Por este thea de amor why amistad tendrs una PROMO imposible de perder.
El masaje que elijas estar totalmente DESNUDA, 👙 why la estimulaciand final no ser solo manual.
Adems.
TE DARE UN PEQUEO OBSEQUIO.
SOLO POR HOY!
However it may only be available if they know you since it does not appear on their regular ads. Most of the photos are fake.
Best of luck, let us know how you make out.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2224273]The body slide chicas seem to be offering extras. I receive this on Whatsapp every Friday.
"SUPER PROMOCION DE AMOR why AMISTAD!!
Por este thea de amor why amistad tendrs una PROMO imposible de perder.
El masaje que elijas estar totalmente DESNUDA, 👙 why la estimulaciand final no ser solo manual.
Adems.
TE DARE UN PEQUEO OBSEQUIO.
Solo por hoy!
However it may only be available if they know you since it does not appear on their regular ads. Most of the photos are fake.[/QUOTE]
No, Medellin is not a facebook only scene. The Medellin forum on this website is a mostly facebook scene. THat's not the same thing.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2224192]Thank you for the report. Before I went on this trip, everybody was saying or at least I was under the impression that Medellin is now primarily a Facebook scene. I think your post was the first one that made an impression on me that showed the Facebook scene is bigger investment than maybe I am willing to undertake. Also it corroborates what JjBee62 wrote that if you treat Facebook girls like prostitutes you will get a transactional experience. It seems that by spending time conversing, you get more of a relationship. I was impressed by your photos. Only 3 of the 10 chicas I had sex with were in that ballpark. For me, if I return to Medellin, I may return to my old habits of visiting the strip clubs and massage places with lineups. Asking the taxi drivers who are interested in chicas if they know anyone. Also maybe I will only spend a week in Medellin like I used to and head to Bogota or something for week 2. What I think I lose in that proposition is the kinkier sex aspects of having a chica over to a hotel or you own apartment. In the strip clubs and massage places with lineups, the chicas are more rules-based and somebody is always ready to knock on the door.[/QUOTE]
You will find that tattoo popularity is cyclical. They were very popular in the US and Europe in the 90's and they are back now along with piercings. Enjoy them, why not?
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2224185]Tats are definitely a younger generation thing and what a change in culture! When I was growing up in the 80's only losers & freaks had tattoos. You didn't even think about getting a tattoo then. If you had a tat then you were a druggie, Harley criminal or his * An exception was ex-military having tats from their platoon.
I can't speak for the entire USA, but things have changed drastically here on the west coast. It's practically normal now to have tattoos, and very large tattoos in multiple places. Millennials have no problems with others having tats, and don't degrade another person at all for having them.[/QUOTE]
Where's the best place to go to try and do normal pickup? I'm not interested in Poblado. I'm talking about regular places not P4 P.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2223774]There is one in Medellin, called La Isla..[/QUOTE]So besides price, how different from Fase II is La Isla? I've counted 50 girls on at Fase on a weekend night around midnight, all of them pretty cute with the top 5 being super hot.
[QUOTE=Joe100;2224357]Where's the best place to go to try and do normal pickup? I'm not interested in Poblado. I'm talking about regular places not P4 P.[/QUOTE]Try riding the Metro and chat it up. 😉
[QUOTE=Joe100;2224357]Where's the best place to go to try and do normal pickup? I'm not interested in Poblado. I'm talking about regular places not P4 P.[/QUOTE]The best place? If there was a best place, it wouldn't be normal pickups.
The best place depends on you. How old are you? How fit are you? How well do you speak and understand Spanish? What economic class are you? Are you looking for pickups in your economic class or lower? Or higher? Are you looking to date, or just hoping for quick hook ups? Can you dance? Really dance, not drunk, white gringo dance.
Regardless of how you answer the questions, there's still no best place. Those questions just determine your chance of success.
People in Medellin are friendly and willing to talk. It doesn't matter where you are in Medellin. You'll find A. Beautiful women and be. People willing to talk, in Spanish. If you have the skills, you should have no problem.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2224459]Try riding the Metro and chat it up. 😉[/QUOTE]Had raved about their metro and public transport system but now that I've started to live here, it's a different experience. Travelling rush hour can be hellish with the pushing and jostling. Doesn't put me in the best frame of mind!
Anyone know where I can find some decent condoms around laureles? Should have brought my own as these thick ones the casa girls use are terrible. Also any decent places to get viagra or generic kinds for cheap?
Have you given any thought about going to any drug store or an EXITO store?
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224496]Anyone know where I can find some decent condoms around laureles? Should have brought my own as these thick ones the casa girls use are terrible. Also any decent places to get viagra or generic kinds for cheap?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224496]Anyone know where I can find some decent condoms around laureles? Should have brought my own as these thick ones the casa girls use are terrible. Also any decent places to get viagra or generic kinds for cheap?[/QUOTE]I found sex shops in Colombia have better selection.
The Colombo Americano language school in Centro is a place where you can usually find people interested in using English. That takes some of the Spanish out of the equation. The rest is about finding something beyond cash and Spanish that is of mutual interest. It's not very different than meeting women anywhere else. If you run out of time or patience, there are more than a few casas on the surrounding streets. I think the closest is probably Paradise on calle 54.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2224488]The best place? If there was a best place, it wouldn't be normal pickups.
The best place depends on you. How old are you? How fit are you? How well do you speak and understand Spanish? What economic class are you? Are you looking for pickups in your economic class or lower? Or higher? Are you looking to date, or just hoping for quick hook ups? Can you dance? Really dance, not drunk, white gringo dance.
Regardless of how you answer the questions, there's still no best place. Those questions just determine your chance of success.
People in Medellin are friendly and willing to talk. It doesn't matter where you are in Medellin. You'll find A. Beautiful women and be. People willing to talk, in Spanish. If you have the skills, you should have no problem.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2224320]Best of luck, let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]I never get much reaction to my body slide reports in any city. I guess it is just a small minority that like this particular kink. I was in Madrid this summer and it was a virtual goldmine of body slide places and nobody had ever reported on them. The only guy I know who goes to them never uses a condom so he prefers to get off using the Russian (or Turkish) technique. My other real good friend insists that it ain't mongering if there is no penetration. He hates body slide places. "If I want a massage I will go to a massage place. " Or maybe "The first rule of body slide mongering is to not talk about body slide mongering. " LOL because I can't use an emoji.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2224565]I never get much reaction to my body slide reports in any city. I guess it is just a small minority that like this particular kink. I was in Madrid this summer and it was a virtual goldmine of body slide places and nobody had ever reported on them. The only guy I know who goes to them never uses a condom so he prefers to get off using the Russian (or Turkish) technique. My other real good friend insists that it ain't mongering if there is no penetration. He hates body slide places. "If I want a massage I will go to a massage place. " Or maybe "The first rule of body slide mongering is to not talk about body slide mongering. " LOL because I can't use an emoji.[/QUOTE]I've been mongering for decades and couldn't even tell you what a body slide is.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224496]Anyone know where I can find some decent condoms around laureles? Should have brought my own as these thick ones the casa girls use are terrible. Also any decent places to get viagra or generic kinds for cheap?[/QUOTE]From Carrera 70 go east on Calle 42. About 4 blocks down, if I've got the right street, there's a pharmacy on the left. Cheapest prices I've found. They should also carry condoms.
Or you can try the Ali Baba store on Carrera 70 and Circular 3.
I think this is what is known as "soapy" in Thailand. A woman greases her body or lathers it up with soap then slides over the punter. I've not tried it but the concept doesn't appeal to me.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2224610]I've been mongering for decades and couldn't even tell you what a body slide is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2224610]I've been mongering for decades and couldn't even tell you what a body slide is.[/QUOTE]My guess is that it is like the soapy massage in Thailand where the girl bathes you in the tub, then you get out and lie on a raft. She puts more soap and water on you and slides her body all over yours making a bunch of suds. I think they do the same thing with the Nuru massage at the spot in Santo Domingo.
It seems that in the one BBM is talking about you don't get to fuck though. In the ones that I mentioned, you still fuck at the end. At the ones in Thailand it starts at $60 for the 90 minute session. There are like 20, 30, or 40 chicks behind a glass (think most have gotten rid of the glass though) and you choose the one you want. The one in Santo Domingo is done by a chick in a 2 BR apartment.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2224648]My guess is that it is like the soapy massage in Thailand where the girl bathes you in the tub, then you get out and lie on a raft. She puts more soap and water on you and slides her body all over yours making a bunch of suds. I think they do the same thing with the Nuru massage at the spot in Santo Domingo.
[/QUOTE]That pretty much describes the body rubs in NYC. It generally includes sex and some places offer the option of nuru for additional $$.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2224610]I've been mongering for decades and couldn't even tell you what a body slide is.[/QUOTE][URL]https://spankbang.com/7y7u/video/tattooed[/URL]+masseuse+bodysliding+on+client.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2224632]I think this is what is known as "soapy" in Thailand. A woman greases her body or lathers it up with soap then slides over the punter. I've not tried it but the concept doesn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]It's something everyone needs to try at least once. I haven't been to one in years, but they are great fun. I've only seen them in Asia though.
The video below is simply a body slide with oil. I have had those all over the world (including Medellin from one of the mansion girls). I much prefer the soapies.
[QUOTE=MrSmasher;2223440][URL]https://www.facebook.com/herrera23105[/URL]
Had a blast with this girl on my recent first time visit to Medellin, great looks great attitude and a great fuck.[/QUOTE]I friended her on FB. She accepted. But didn't answer PM's.
So I've got a some USD I need to exchange in to COP, what place has the best rates and doesn't require you to have a bank account with them? Preferably close to Laureles.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2224527]Have you given any thought about going to any drug store or an EXITO store?[/QUOTE]Those are pretty generic, I usually use the thinner condoms. Was hoping to find some here.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224735]So I've got a some USD I need to exchange in to COP, what place has the best rates and doesn't require you to have a bank account with them? Preferably close to Laureles.[/QUOTE]I'm unsure of any place in Laureles other than Western Union. The last time I compared, WU had pretty good rates. If you want to compare rates go to Poblado to Centro Comercial Oviedo. There are several exchange places there.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2224691]It's something everyone needs to try at least once. I haven't been to one in years, but they are great fun. I've only seen them in Asia though.
The video below is simply a body slide with oil. I have had those all over the world (including Medellin from one of the mansion girls). I much prefer the soapies.[/QUOTE]The chicas in Medellin or at least the ones I went to in Belen are not offering soapies. It is an oily on a mattress. It is closer to the "Massagem Tailandesa" offered in Sao Paulo but without penetration. It is very similar to what you find in Berlin. [URL]https://www.ekstase-massage.de/masseurin.php?name=Jasmin&id=211[/URL].
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224735]So I've got a some USD I need to exchange in to COP, what place has the best rates and doesn't require you to have a bank account with them? Preferably close to Laureles.[/QUOTE]Pan Cambios at Unicentro Mall, 2nd Floor offers decent rates. I exchanged some USD for COP there during a recent trip.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2224735]So I've got a some USD I need to exchange in to COP, what place has the best rates and doesn't require you to have a bank account with them? Preferably close to Laureles.[/QUOTE]When I was in laureles I went to a money exchange local that was inside the shopping mall in front of pontifician universitty (unicentro maybe? They have good rate I think compared to official exchange rate was below something like 50 or 100 COPs.
They just ask for passport, and there was like 3 locations inside all have about the same rates.
Is it possible to change sterling there?
Got a zero fee credit card but going to get ripped off with bank charges when withdrawing cash.
Going to cost me nearly £10 for every £200 I withdraw plus the Colombian bank fee on top.
Hi everyone,
I've been a long time reader as I've never taken my mongering outside the region that I live in the US. Although I haven't had the chance to contribute, as I'm new to this, I'm looking forward to contributing my stories as I broaden my experiences. I do want admit that I've been living vicariously through all the stories that have been posted and I'm now ready to live my own story.
An opportunity has open for me to go to Medellin next week. I just booked my flight but with so little time until my flight I'the like to ask the experienced Medellin mongers for some guidance. To supplement my research I'the like to ask:
1) what are some budget and girl friendly hotels that are centrally located to all the casas? (No thin walls as I do have to call my GF sometimes).
2) what are the top value casas? Hot girls and low market prices.
3) any general tips.
I know that this has been mentioned several times but any help would greatly be appreciated.
General background info: I am 31 year old male from Spanish decent so I can speak Spanish fluently however I do have an accent. I've passed as Colombian to some.
Am in Medellin now had a 2 hour session with a hot black girl I found in [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL], Paulina, nice set of bolt-ONS. Nice slim girl with a great attitude, she came to my room, 260 k cop for two hours. [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/buscar-3024224254/[/URL].
Good afternoon gents. I'm heading out there pretty soon for the first time. I like the idea of picking up from a strip club to minimize surprises but I'm flexible. There's a couple things I'm planning while I'm down there and I am trying to get an idea of how much I need to budget. I'm not trying to nickle and dime, but at the same time, I don't want to get ripped off.
1) I am looking to rent a chica for about 6 hours of GFE including dinner, dancing, and of course sex (multiple rounds).
2) I want at least one threesome. (Mike Adriano style 3-some for those of you who are familiar with his work).
BTW, I'm *only* interested in solid 10's. Recommendations and ideas are welcome!
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2224267]No, lots of guys go the FB route but tons of girls available elsewhere also.
FB is like online escorts to me, you do not know what you are getting, are the photos old, are the photos airbrushed, is she coo-coo for coco-puffs, or is she fun in bed and a sweetheart?
Go to the Casa's and strip clubs and redlight blocks, pick the ones you like and if she turns out to be fun have her over to your hotel the next day. My best dates in MED were strip club / redlight block girls who I had over for a 2nd date to my hotel, they were much more fun and chill the 2nd time, plus I give them a present, have music, offer them drinks / snacks / smoke, take a long hot shower together, trade cocoa butter back rubs, etc. (of course all this is more fun if you are somewhat fluent in Spanish.).
They usually turn much more GFE that way, unasked for BBBJ, kissing, etc.[/QUOTE]
If you don't already have one, get a debit card. You can use it to make withdrawals from ATM machines. The exchange rate is competitive at any ATM. Depending on your bank's policies, the fees will be between 1 to 4 pounds sterling per withdrawal. It's the most convenient method. Whenever this subject comes up a lot of guys start to mention free ATM withdrawals they get with a Schwab account. There are other card issuers that provide no fee ATM withdrawals. I have a couple. I don't think the fees are much of a factor unless you are making more than a couple of withdrawals per week.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2225228]Is it possible to change sterling there?
Got a zero fee credit card but going to get ripped off with bank charges when withdrawing cash.
Going to cost me nearly 10 for every 200 I withdraw plus the Colombian bank fee on top.[/QUOTE]
My first bait and switch from Mileroticos, I found this gorgeous brunette, named Xiomara, fee quoted was 80 k x hour, she looked so good, I couldn't pass up the opportunity, I messaged her and made an appointment, when I showed up the girl that claimed to be Xiomara was completely different from the one in the pictures, so I told her, you are not the girl in the pictures, she said she was, she just had a few operations, I bolted out of there. Here is the ad: [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/espectacular-morenita-flaquita-con-apto-priv-hora-80-recien-llegada/11273265/[/URL].
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2225228]Is it possible to change sterling there?
Got a zero fee credit card but going to get ripped off with bank charges when withdrawing cash.
Going to cost me nearly 10 for every 200 I withdraw plus the Colombian bank fee on top.[/QUOTE]Panacambios website lists Sterling in their currency portfolio. Unicentro mall is located opposite Universidad Pontificia Bolivariana as the poster below noted. I noticed several money changers at this mall.
I returned to the Mansion in late August 2018 for the first one-week leg of my two-week trip to Colombia (see the "General Info" section for Colombia for an overview of my trip) due to the quality of my previous experiences at the Mansion. I nonetheless decided to do things differently this time. M1 did not have one room available for all of my desired dates, so I decided to stay in M2, which did have one room available for all of my desired dates. While the "frat house" atmosphere of M1 had been a key part of the Mansion's appeal for me, I decided to make a virtue of out of necessity and take advantage of the greater privacy and quietness of M2 for a higher proportion of Facebook citas, with the Mansion's on-site talent as a backup or secondary source. My previous experiences had mostly involved the on-site talent, with only a few Facebook girls. As much as I enjoyed the on-site talent, I regretted not drawing more extensively upon the much broader and more diverse Facebook talent pool, which appears to be the leading option for most Mansion guests. Other reasons for returning to the Mansion included the opportunity to network and share intel with other guests and the Mansion's exclusion of girls that may pose security risks. Large Mansion parties, such as the birthday party of a prolific Mansion regular that week, also provide opportunities to meet girls that one might not otherwise encounter online or at the Mansion.
I had previously focused on the on-site talent pool for two reasons. One reason was the risk of flakes, no-shows, and egregious lateness from Facebook chicas. In that regard, I fared reasonably well by local standards this time. Out of fourteen Facebook citas, twelve of them actually happened. My only Faceboook flake was also the only girl that was not well-known or at least vouched for by another monger. Ironically, however, the only other significant issue I encountered was with a very well-known and highly regarded Facebook chica. She showed up only a few minutes late, at which point it emerged that the Mansion's owners had banned her from the premises (I had asked her beforehand if she could visit me there, and she said yes).
Out of the twelve Facebook citas that went forward, most girls were not as late as the 30 or so minutes that I had expected, based on what I read online and conversations with other guests; 10-20 minutes late was more typical. The least punctual was 45 minutes late, but, in all fairness, she was a last-minute booking; the most punctual were 5-10 minutes early, which was remarkable in the case of one of those two, who showed up with less than one hour's notice. Remember that M2 is hard to find if one is not already familiar with the location, as its address may not resolve properly in GPS. Most of the girls were already familiar with the location, but one that was not familiar with it spent 20 minutes trying to find it with her driver until I sent her a screen shot of my phone's GPS, which worked. I covered taxi fares when girls asked, on top of the typical 150 k-200 k fee, but some accounted for taxi costs in the rate that they negotiated and paid for taxis themselves out of that fee. Also, if you stay in M2 and pull girls from the pool or La Cueva in M1, taking a short taxi ride up the hill to M2 is a very good idea. Not just because the girls may ask for it, especially if they are wearing uncomfortable high-heeled shoes, but because you might want it too, if only to save your energy for the session. The walk up that hill can be a real beast and was more of a downside to staying at M2 than I had anticipated. I never had to wait more than a minute or two for those taxi rides, however.
My other and more substantial reservation about "ordering in" from Facebook had been the concern that it would be harder, if not impossible, to assess chemistry and develop rapport online before an in-person cita. A key factor that had originally attracted me to the Mansion in the first place was that it seemed like the best place for a "meet & greet" experience in Medellin, similar to that of the Del Rey, the Sportsmen's Lodge, or the Cocal in Costa Rica, or the strip in Sosua (albeit with higher-quality talent and service and on a much smaller scale), given some of the concerns about the talent pool in and around Parque Lleras (e. G. Gusto), etc. I have historically had a stronger preference for this particular "meet & greet" style of overseas mongering, which provides an opportunity to assess chemistry, build rapport, and perhaps even engage in some light foreplay before pulling the trigger and taking her up to one's room at the Del Rey, New Garden, or M1.
Accordingly, I was reluctant to resort to the Internet overseas. The way I saw it, if one wanted to pull hookers off the Internet, one could do that at home, where at least they would have reviews and probably show up on time. Legislation has since impeded that option, and online mongering communities and other Mansion guests provided enough intel, reviews, and other feedback on the past performance of specific Facebook girls to compensate for the reduced ability to assess chemistry and develop rapport online before meeting in person. Indeed, one advantage of Facebook over "meet & greet" mongering is that it can provide insights that one does not have when "reading" them in person. Neither approach is completely reliable, and each has its pitfalls. For example, a girl can seem like a total sweetheart in the bar in order to get you to pull the trigger and then turn on her resting ***** face in the room for some shoddy service. If she does that habitually, and other guys share that information, then reviews and feedback can be a useful way to shield oneself from experiences like that. Nonetheless, relying on reviews and other feedback from other mongers has its own limitations, including: the inherent variation in sexual experiences involving different people ("Your Mileage May Vary" different tastes, standards, values, and expectations; the occasionally unspoken or questionable motivations of other mongers; the unpredictability and frequent instability of many putas; the positions of the stars and the phases of the moon; and so on.
I would say that the biggest overall difference between hooking up with on-site girls spontaneously and scheduling citas from Facebook was that the former sessions were often better in purely physical terms, whereas the latter were better often in GFE terms, notwithstanding some variations with individual girls. I think that this difference makes sense, given the factors that I described above. When you pull them in person and spontaneously, both parties know what the other looks like, how their bodies might fit together, how good their chemistry and rapport seem, how they feel and smell, what mood they themselves are in at that exact moment, and so on. I also would imagine (and please advise if you disagree) that the on-site talent pool at M1 may be higher-volume or may have more practice getting the key parts of male anatomy to accomplish their core mission in a reasonable amount of time, so they can go back down to La Cueva to find another guy or smoke cripa with their friends. By the same token, a girl who comes all the way from Bello, San Javier, or Itagui just to see you in the greater quiet and privacy of an apartment (or M2) will probably devote more time and focus to you, but perhaps it is harder for both parties to click physically with someone that one only knows previously from the Internet.
In short, all of the Facebook and Mansion girls were at least OK or satisfactory, and none of them were bad or caused any significant issues, beyond the one that turned out to have been banned from the Mansion when she showed up. All of them accepted the typical 150-200 k plus taxis, except for one, whose hotness and reputation justified (in my opinion) a somewhat higher rate of 250 k. Some stayed longer than others, but I did not push for additional rounds, as I wanted to conserve my ammunition for a two-week trip. I was more concerned with post-leche GFE and wanted a change of pace from my last trip in Jaco, where the girls fly out the door before you can even take off the condom. Only one was in a bit of hurry to leave, but she had compensated for that with a well above-average fuck (which seems to be a pattern among some of the better lays that I have read about elsewhere online, and also from previous experience). A few chilled with me at length in the jacuzzi in my room. DFK and BBBJ were the norm, as I immediately rejected any candidates that stuck to CBJ (which is a showstopper for me) or showed any reluctance to provide BBBJ. A few pleasantly surprised me with CIM, which I had not requested and had found harder to get before. The main weakness was that the average cocksucking stamina and endurance was often weaker than I recalled from before, which I have encountered with some Colombians elsewhere, but not so much in Medellin and not as much as I did this time. As for the "main event," I would say that some of the on-site girls were often better at riding cock, for whatever reason. All full service was covered; I did not ask for BBFS, and none offered it.
I had originally planned to explore the strip clubs and casas more thoroughly than I had before, but my initial results at each of the most popular venues. Fase II and Energy. Were not encouraging. I have never been a fan of casas because they generally do not provide the opportunity to assess chemistry, build rapport, and discuss services (e. G. BBBJ) before making a decision. I had nonetheless heard enough good things about Energy that I decided to give it another shot. The visual quality of the lineup was quite impressive, but this only session of mine in Medellin outside the Mansion was also the only bad one. I also went to Fase II, but the talent pool was too small to find a suitable match there, due in part to the common insistence on CBJ.
I had already done almost all of the sightseeing in Medellin that sounded interesting to me, except for the Pablo Escobar tour and a day trip to Santa Fe de Antioquia, which I did this time. The company Paisa Road does a good Pablo Escobar tour for a reasonable 60 k. Santa Fe de Antioquia might be a nice, quaint place to take a girl for a brief getaway, but was not that interesting to visit in and of itself. I decided to save Guatepe for a future trip.
The Medellin leg of this trip was a positive experience, and I will be back for more. I would probably stay at the Mansion again (specifically M1), unless: a) someone can persuade me that I would be better off in an apartment for reasons other than price and facilities (I have heard that argument before); b) the owners of the Mansion have a habit of banning well-known and highly regarded girls for dubious reasons; or c) there are other venues in Medellin with a comparable talent pool for "meet & greet" mongering. Assuming that I did go back to the Mansion, I would probably stay at M1 for a more balanced mix of on-site pulls and Facebook citas. I would probably be one of those guys that stays at the Mansion and hardly sets foot outside of it, except for meals and ATM withdrawals, as I have yet to find anything outside of it or Facebook that really appeals to me enough to bring me back for more. My subsequent experience in the Santa Fe red light district of Bogota nonetheless made me curious about Mayorista, which is supposedly comparable to it, and which I have not explored yet. My natural tendency is to explore, to broaden my horizons, and to try new and different things, which is why I originally had a hard time understanding why many guys would stay at the Mansion and rarely set foot outside of it. Now I understand.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2225498]Good afternoon gents. I'm heading out there pretty soon for the first time. I like the idea of picking up from a strip club to minimize surprises but I'm flexible. There's a couple things I'm planning while I'm down there and I am trying to get an idea of how much I need to budget. I'm not trying to nickle and dime, but at the same time, I don't want to get ripped off.
1) I am looking to rent a chica for about 6 hours of GFE including dinner, dancing, and of course sex (multiple rounds).
2) I want at least one threesome. (Mike Adriano style 3-some for those of you who are familiar with his work).
BTW, I'm *only* interested in solid 10's. Recommendations and ideas are welcome![/QUOTE]Here we go again.
1. Budget $300 plus money for dinner and drinks. Expect to be disappointed.
2. Budget $300 plus however much Mike Adriano wants to do a 3 some with you, or $300 for the other girl. Expect to be disappointed.
Yes. I know. That's a lot more than you expected and why should you expect to be disappointed?
We just had this discussion, but apparently you haven't bothered to do your research. Nobody knows what you consider a solid 10. However, if you're looking for a porn star 3 some, with solid 10's it's going to be expensive and it's unlikely to turn out like your fantasy. Actually, depending on your solid 10 requirements, $300 each might be too low.
Now there are plenty of beautiful women in Medellin who will do a trio for 300 to 400 k, split and quite a few that will do a 3 some for the same price, although that might go up, depending on what all is involved in a Mike Adriano 3 some. However, the ones I know are in the 7 to 9 range.
Back to the 6 hour multiple pops date. How many times do you want to waste your money on this? You're looking for a complete stranger, who happens to be a solid 10, who can be an interesting dinner companion, who wants to hang out and dance with you and who wants to have sex with you multiple times.
Maybe you're fluent in Spanish and can carry a conversation that's interesting and funny with an 18-24 year old. However, if she's a solid 10, she's used to talking with guys who will happily drop $2000. She's not likely to roll out the red carpet for 300 k, so your GFE won't live up to your standards.
A long date with a random stranger usually doesn't work. You have no history, no chemistry and nothing in common. Unless you're close to fluent, you don't have the means to communicate.
What does work is finding a woman you have some chemistry with. Someone you've had some fun with, who wants to spend time with you. I've tried both ways. The long date with a stranger was a disaster. The long date with a prior girl worked great. We had dinner, went to a movie, had a few drinks and then spent almost 4 hours having sex. Total cost, 320 k, including the cost of dinner, movie and drinks.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2225228]Is it possible to change sterling there?
Got a zero fee credit card but going to get ripped off with bank charges when withdrawing cash.
Going to cost me nearly 10 for every 200 I withdraw plus the Colombian bank fee on top.[/QUOTE]If you are from uk open starling bank. Its free mastercard card they don't have any ATM fees and give perfect exchange rate. You need download app register your details and they will send you a card to your home address. Everything is controlled throught app.
[URL]https://www.starlingbank.com/download/[/URL]
I use them at many diffrent countries and never have problems yet. I get much better exchange rate than at locals money exchangers gives. Or have other options like revolut card or monzo bank but they allowed just 200 pounds per month free ATM withdrawal and after charge 2-3 percent on the top.
[QUOTE=Pokeris;2225609]If you are from uk open starling bank. Its free mastercard card they don't have any ATM fees and give perfect exchange rate. You need download app register your details and they will send you a card to your home address. Everything is controlled throught app.
[URL]https://www.starlingbank.com/download/[/URL]
I use them at many diffrent countries and never have problems yet. I get much better exchange rate than at locals money exchangers gives. Or have other options like revolut card or monzo bank but they allowed just 200 pounds per month free ATM withdrawal and after charge 2-3 percent on the top.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
I have a zero credit card now with Santander, problem is you get charged massive interest immediately on cash withdrawals.
Is it the same with this? Sorry I'm new to credit cards.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2225510]If you don't already have one, get a debit card. You can use it to make withdrawals from ATM machines. The exchange rate is competitive at any ATM. Depending on your bank's policies, the fees will be between 1 to 4 pounds sterling per withdrawal. It's the most convenient method. Whenever this subject comes up a lot of guys start to mention free ATM withdrawals they get with a Schwab account. There are other card issuers that provide no fee ATM withdrawals. I have a couple. I don't think the fees are much of a factor unless you are making more than a couple of withdrawals per week.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
I downloaded that ATM hero app and it seems like the most I can withdraw at an ATM is around £250, so I'll be withdrawing at least every other day.
Did a casa run yesterday. Went to basically every casa on the map that was open except loutron, if you could consider that a casa. Most casas do not have the greatest looking chicas. I tried to session at each one even if I didn't like any girls, but some places had girls that were too ugly to fuck. I only leched 3 times at what I consider the top three, which were new life, energy, and aiffe. New life is 50 k for 30 min and had the best looking girls. The service was ok, no kissing or BBBJ. If I had to go to a casa it would be this one. Girls ranged from a 5 to a 7 here. Energy is more expensive at 125 k for a 30 min session. This session does not include CBJ or anything besides sex. The girls are ok but not worth the money imo. They have the best rooms. I had a fake boobs, light skinned, black girl. Then there was aiffe. 45 k for 30 min. Small selection, only 5 girls, none above a 6. I picked a tan girl with a fat ass. She was high or something because she just laid there with a weird look in her eyes. It was like fucking a piece of meat. I just put her on her stomach and pounded away. She did not use lube and was not really wet, so the condom broke and I came inside. Cleaned my dick real good after that. Was only inside her bare for like 20 seconds so hope nothing happens. Once again no CBJ or kissing. If you don't pick a girl expect a viewing fee of 3 k - 20 k.
These places are the place to go if you just want a cheap fuck without any frills. Its rare that you get a CBJ, never a BBBJ, and never any kissing. I spent around 530 k pesos fucking 10 chicks. Which is like $190 based on the exchange rate from the money exchange places. Not bad, but I would have rather spent it with one girl who is a 9 and provides great service (multi hour of course).
If you can only go to one casa go to new life. Best looking girls, low price, only downside is that it is far from laureles, even so the uber is only $4 from here to there.
- The problem with Colombia is that overall, girls give lousy BJs. In the mid to low level places; haven't tried the high end. Even if you tip them for BBBJ, their techniques are poor. Is oral sex popular among the Colombian people? You need to go to Angeles or Pattaya to get good BJs. Although, obviously, there are girls who give good BJs. One of the best ones I've ever had, is that girl from Bogota's Chicas 2000, cute face but has a mommy belly.
- Colombia is great if you like standard covered sex with Latin American girls for short time for cheap price (between 30K - 60K COP).
- One surprise I've had is that most girls I've asked so far on this trip have said yes to my proposition of giving a lesbian show. Highest percentage of "yes" I've ever had in any country. Although most said no to lesbian rimming.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2225743]New life is 50 k for 30 min and had the best looking girls. The service was ok, no kissing or BBBJ. If I had to go to a casa it would be this one. Girls ranged from a 5 to a 7 here.[/QUOTE]I went there last Saturday. I thought Luna was the cutest. She had a nice demeanor. But she wouldn't accept a tip for BBBJ. She was willing to do a lesbian show.
Nicole was average. She wouldn't do BBBJ for a tip. But I thought she did BBBJ last year.
Celeste was decent. She was willing to do a lesbian show. Lousy CBJ. She wouldn't go down from 50 K COP tip for BBBJ. She wanted additional 50 K for CIM. WTF!
Camilia was decent. Good body. Not willing to do BBBJ. But she had a nice demeanor. She was willing to do a lesbian show with Nicole.
Michelle was slightly below average. She lowered her BBBJ tip demand from 50K to 30K. Poor demeanor.
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2225553]I have never been a fan of casas because they generally do not provide the opportunity to assess chemistry, build rapport, and discuss services (e. G. BBBJ) before making a decision.[/QUOTE]
Since cases are so cheap, I just get the half hour and pay between 35K-50K COP for an "interview". Similar to a lady drink in SE Asia, except it cost twice as much, but you can see how she performs CBJ. If she's good, I interview her and offer her another session and tips for additional services.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2225743]Most casas do not have the greatest looking chicas. I tried to session at each one even if I didn't like any girls, but some places had girls that were too ugly to fuck. I only leched 3 times at what I consider the top three, which were new life, energy, and aiffe. New life is 50 k for 30 min and had the best looking girls. The service was ok, no kissing or BBBJ. If I had to go to a casa it would be this one. Girls ranged from a 5 to a 7 here. Energy is more expensive at 125 k for a 30 min session. This session does not include CBJ or anything besides sex. The girls are ok but not worth the money imo. They have the best rooms. I had a fake boobs, light skinned, black girl. Then there was aiffe. 45 k for 30 min. These places are the place to go if you just want a cheap fuck without any frills. Its rare that you get a CBJ, never a BBBJ, and never any kissing. I spent around 530 k pesos fucking 10 chicks. Which is like $190 based on the exchange rate from the money exchange places. Not bad, but I would have rather spent it with one girl who is a 9 and provides great service (multi hour of course).[/QUOTE]Uh, can someone confirm this? I can't speak for Aiffe because I've only fucked there once when there were tooooooo many gringos in NL. Similarly, I've gotten a CBJ at NL (and a short but poignant BBBJ from one of the pre-exodus Venozolanas) and Energy; try slipping in a "puede chupar un poco?" next time you're working into things.
And seriously, can someone confirm / deny that you're not supposed to get head at NL or Energy? I feel a about of the Mandela effect coming on.
[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225782]And seriously, can someone confirm / deny that you're not supposed to get head at NL or Energy?[/QUOTE]I've always gotten CBJ at New Life. Never been to Energy. I've always been offered CBJ at all the cases (only 6) I've been to in Colombia. Although some have been lousy where after a few minutes, the girl says "no mass". If available, you probably have to tip to get BBBJ.
Not sure about kissing. I don't do it. Don't like the thought of all those pricks that has been in that mouth. Remember, if you are kissing that girl in New Life, that tongue could have been up my ass an hour ago. LOL!
[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225782]
And seriously, can someone confirm / deny that you're not supposed to get head at NL or Energy? I feel a about of the Mandela effect coming on.[/QUOTE]According to the lady who brings in the girls at energy you can only get a CBJ with the hour selection, not the 30 minutes. Also no girl provides BBBJ according to her.
You do get a CBJ at NL, maybe you can tip for BBBJ but my girl didn't want to.
At affie the girl was not involved whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225782]Uh, can someone confirm this? I can't speak for Aiffe because I've only fucked there once when there were tooooooo many gringos in NL. Similarly, I've gotten a CBJ at NL (and a short but poignant BBBJ from one of the pre-exodus Venozolanas) and Energy; try slipping in a "puede chupar un poco?" next time you're working into things.
And seriously, can someone confirm / deny that you're not supposed to get head at NL or Energy? I feel a about of the Mandela effect coming on.[/QUOTE]I have always gotten head at both NL and Energy. Half at Energy were BBBJ, with no negotiations, no extra payment. I can't think of any girls I had in Colombia who didn't give head. Some weren't very good at it, but they all went there without having to be asked.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2225498]Good afternoon gents. I'm heading out there pretty soon for the first time. I like the idea of picking up from a strip club to minimize surprises but I'm flexible. There's a couple things I'm planning while I'm down there and I am trying to get an idea of how much I need to budget. I'm not trying to nickle and dime, but at the same time, I don't want to get ripped off.
1) I am looking to rent a chica for about 6 hours of GFE including dinner, dancing, and of course sex (multiple rounds).
2) I want at least one threesome. (Mike Adriano style 3-some for those of you who are familiar with his work).
BTW, I'm *only* interested in solid 10's. Recommendations and ideas are welcome![/QUOTE] I would respect the advice of JJbee2 but here are two alternatives.
La Celestina is offering a 5 hour promotion for 550 k. I doubt they will have a 10 on the roster though.
"Todos LOS servicios de 2 horas tienen 10% de descuento.
5 horas por 550.000 para todas las modelos con tarifa inferior a 250.000.
Oral natural por slo 70.000 adicionales (aplican restricciones). ".
I would start with Instagram models for 10's. I found these these 3 on Tinder but they have thousands of followers. I think they are on Tinder to recruit followers.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/caroph.31/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/sararivera_29/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/alzatecardona777/?hl=en[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2225514]My first bait and switch from Mileroticos, I found this gorgeous brunette, named Xiomara, fee quoted was 80 k x hour, she looked so good, I couldn't pass up the opportunity, I messaged her and made an appointment, when I showed up the girl that claimed to be Xiomara was completely different from the one in the pictures, so I told her, you are not the girl in the pictures, she said she was, she just had a few operations, I bolted out of there. Here is the ad: [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/espectacular-morenita-flaquita-con-apto-priv-hora-80-recien-llegada/11273265/[/URL].[/QUOTE]The tasters blog which is full of locals recommends to never go to places with ads (excepting the Downtown casas) where the price is below 100 k pesos or the chica has her face showing in the photo. These places are almost always frauds.
Yes, and I don't quite understand why anyone would need to see this advice in a local blog because complaints from guys who don't follow it appear on this forum very regularly. What I find especially interesting on the taster / catadaor blog are the complaints that even the honest apartment girl ads that show the actual providers are many times providers who came from casas.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2225819]The tasters blog which is full of locals recommends to never go to places with ads (excepting the Downtown casas) where the price is below 100 k pesos or the chica has her face showing in the photo. These places are almost always frauds.[/QUOTE]
It's not quite the way I remember it. I do notice the guy likes multi hour sessions with girls he calls "9" so I think it could be somebody who won't be happy spending less than a six figure peso fee. Casa BBBJ is negotiable although some providers won't do it. Some girls try to upsell it from jump. I think this is a classic example of YMMV. New Life is definitely the most popular all around casa, especially among gringos.
[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225782]Uh, can someone confirm this? I can't speak for Aiffe because I've only fucked there once when there were tooooooo many gringos in NL. Similarly, I've gotten a CBJ at NL (and a short but poignant BBBJ from one of the pre-exodus Venozolanas) and Energy; try slipping in a "puede chupar un poco?" next time you're working into things.
And seriously, can someone confirm / deny that you're not supposed to get head at NL or Energy? I feel a about of the Mandela effect coming on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2225811]I have always gotten head at both NL and Energy. Half at Energy were BBBJ, with no negotiations, no extra payment. I can't think of any girls I had in Colombia who didn't give head. Some weren't very good at it, but they all went there without having to be asked.[/QUOTE]Well I guess I got scammed then. I was told by the madame that no BBBJ is provided at all and CBJ only comes with the hour service.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2225896]Well I guess I got scammed then. I was told by the madame that no BBBJ is provided at all and CBJ only comes with the hour service.[/QUOTE]I only do the hour service at Energy. It's the best deal.
As for what's offered, the girls make those decisions. If you ask the madam will also tell you that the girls won't give out their WhatsApp.
My opinion is that if you ask how much for something, you will never get it without paying extra. The more important it is to you, the more it will cost. So, I never ask. If the girl asks if I want the BJ with or without a condom, I say it doesn't matter.
My best time at Energy went from good to great when I went for DATY. I'm surprised I didn't lose an ear. When I came up for air she attacked me. After a nice, long BBBJ, on went the cover and she went all out.
Thanks for the guidance brother.
I was able to get the GFE in Panama last year. This particular 10 asked for $200 when I met her. I was wasted at the time, but she went over the top so I think I remember giving her maybe $250 or $300 when she left.
She came back next day with a friend and I think I went in $350 for the both. Good times.
Hoping I can repeat the experience a little cheaper in Colombia.
FWIW, Mike Adriano is a porn star notorious for blowbangs (2 or more girls giving oral (OWO) at the same time).
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2225582]Here we go again.
1. Budget $300 plus money for dinner and drinks. Expect to be disappointed.
2. Budget $300 plus however much Mike Adriano wants to do a 3 some with you, or $300 for the other girl. Expect to be disappointed.
Yes. I know. That's a lot more than you expected and why should you expect to be disappointed?
We just had this discussion, but apparently you haven't bothered to do your research. Nobody knows what you consider a solid 10. However, if you're looking for a porn star 3 some, with solid 10's it's going to be expensive and it's unlikely to turn out like your fantasy. Actually, depending on your solid 10 requirements, $300 each might be too low.
Now there are plenty of beautiful women in Medellin who will do a trio for 300 to 400 k, split and quite a few that will do a 3 some for the same price, although that might go up, depending on what all is involved in a Mike Adriano 3 some. However, the ones I know are in the 7 to 9 range..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2225934]Thanks for the guidance brother.
I was able to get the GFE in Panama last year. This particular 10 asked for $200 when I met her. I was wasted at the time, but she went over the top so I think I remember giving her maybe $250 or $300 when she left.
She came back next day with a friend and I think I went in $350 for the both. Good times.
Hoping I can repeat the experience a little cheaper in Colombia.
FWIW, Mike Adriano is a porn star notorious for blowbangs (2 or more girls giving oral (OWO) at the same time).[/QUOTE]A little? You can repeat the experience ALOT cheaper in Colombia. Half that amount would be overpaying by quite a bit.
[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2225514]My first bait and switch from Mileroticos, I found this gorgeous brunette, named Xiomara, fee quoted was 80 k x hour, she looked so good, I couldn't pass up the opportunity, I messaged her and made an appointment, when I showed up the girl that claimed to be Xiomara was completely different from the one in the pictures, so I told her, you are not the girl in the pictures, she said she was, she just had a few operations, I bolted out of there. Here is the ad: [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/espectacular-morenita-flaquita-con-apto-priv-hora-80-recien-llegada/11273265/[/URL].[/QUOTE]80 k? That didn't raise any red flags? Seriously?
Out of principle avoid all 80 k and under ads.
Had a couple threesomes around veracruz for 60,000 cop (30,000/ girl). Also a few who charged more. I believe it was 50,000cop/girl. One of the girls I had sessioned with a few times and the other I could never find again. I looked for that little spinner probably 10-15 different days without luck.
[QUOTE=Combo;2225978]A little? You can repeat the experience ALOT cheaper in Colombia. Half that amount would be overpaying by quite a bit.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2226013]Had a couple threesomes around veracruz for 60,000 cop (30,000/ girl). One of the girls I had sessioned with a few times and the other I could never find again. I looked for that little spinner probably 10-15 different days without luck.
.[/QUOTE]If the OP let the chicas around Veracruz know he was willing to pay $350, he might not live to report it.
Could buy the whole block and have some real fun.
[QUOTE=Combo;2226015]If the OP let the chicas around Veracruz know he was willing to pay $350, he might not live to report it.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2225805]According to the lady who brings in the girls at energy you can only get a CBJ with the hour selection, not the 30 minutes. Also no girl provides BBBJ according to her.
You do get a CBJ at NL, maybe you can tip for BBBJ but my girl didn't want to.
At affie the girl was not involved whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I was going to ask, what's the standard upsell rate on BBBJ? In BAQ I paid 20 k for the favor, but my buddy says standard rate in MDE should be 10 k. Seems like the chicas want to charge like 40.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2225792]I
Not sure about kissing. I don't do it. Don't like the thought of all those pricks that has been in that mouth. Remember, if you are kissing that girl in New Life, that tongue could have been up my ass an hour ago. LOL![/QUOTE]I love this. "I don't kiss but I let her stick my tongue up my ass. ".
[QUOTE=Combo;2226015]If the OP let the chicas around Veracruz know he was willing to pay $350, he might not live to report it.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Because they would all bum rush him in hopes to get a piece of that action. Actually, they would probably think it was some kind of scam and say no.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2226200]I love this. "I don't kiss but I let her stick her tongue up my ass. ".[/QUOTE]I don't kiss them for the same reason.
I just discovered this site.
I'm younger (30's) and I've been traveling around the world for a few years mongering quite a bit. I settled down in Medellin a couple of months ago with my SoCal wife (who's bisexual and also partakes occasionally).
Anyway, I'm blown away by this overload of info, and I'm shocked that I haven't discovered this before. I just lost a few hours of my life reading through the posts. Got a lot of catching up to do.
I'll give my own report on Medellin based on my two months here. I think I've acquitted myself fairly well even without ISG as a resource, as I've been all around the world and already made my rookie mistakes, I always pretend I've been to places before even if it's my first time, I can speak Spanish pretty well, etc.
Strip clubs. I'm a strip joint kind of guy. I like to interact with the girls a little before getting down to business. I've had good luck at the Centro clubs below.
Conejitas. Been here three times. Paid around 60 K each time, 30 minutes. Two decent but nothing special sessions, and one very cool one with a voluptuous paisa who has since become a GF. She'll hang out for an entire evening (3-4 hours) for 100 K and that includes multiple sessions and GFE experience, which I like. She talks about going on overnight trips and the like, very personable and cool chick.
Grille Nueva. I think this is the name; it's on the same block as Conejitas. I went here a couple of times, sessioned for 50-60 K and found a great little costena who did BBBJ unsolicited and has become a GF like the one above. She comes all the way to my place in Envigado, as well, for multiple sessions, and lets me take photos and video. 120 K for a couple of hours. Gives excellent service.
Grille Occidental. Near the other two but farther away from the park. I found all of these before I had discovered ISG by walking around. This is a noticeable downgrade in talent and atmosphere. Girls bickering with each other, a waft of desperation, and an overall dirtier vibe. Whatever, I got drunk and enjoyed myself greatly, sessioned with a girl who was a 5 tops (with beer goggles, haha), but fuck it, that's the kind of mood I was in. She also gave BBBJ unsolicited. I read recently that it's difficult to get BBBJ here, and that's simply untrue. Although maybe it's because I'm at the middle to lower class ones, haha. Got to step up my classiness, I suppose.
Massage parlors. The only one I've been to is Energy in Laureles. I'm a fan, both sessions were decent and the girls are hot. I have a working theory that the first girls in the lineup are the most enthusiastic during a session. Most eager to be seen = more eager to please? I'll be testing the theory often.
But I doubt you're going to get any extras at a more upscale place like this very easily, and I assume it'd be harder to develop a GF-type relationship with the girls (although I haven't tried). Which is what I like: a mix of ongoing girls and new experiences. Going to try Tantra next week.
SWs. I haven't had the balls yet.
Alright, back to reading through 1,820 pages of reports and not working.
As I said, I'm new to Medellin still. If anybody wants to hit up a club or catch a game at a bar, PM me.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2226199]I was going to ask, what's the standard upsell rate on BBBJ? In BAQ I paid 20 k for the favor, but my buddy says standard rate in MDE should be 10 k. Seems like the chicas want to charge like 40.[/QUOTE]From my experiences, as a tourist. Some girls accept; some girls won't accept. YMMV:
- 2 years ago in the cases, when I asked "chupas sin condom", I had to broach the subject of the tip. Now on this trip, when I asked about the BBBJ, some girls immediately said "50 K COP". It seems some girls are getting use to the idea of tips for BBBJ.
- In New Life, girls will ask for 50 K. Couple won't bargain. I was able to bargained down to 30 K or 40 K for some. Couldn't get it to 20 K.
- In Bogota's Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000, many want 50 K. I think only 1 wouldn't bargain. I was able to bargain down to 20 K for couple of girls. Most who accept should take 30 K or 40 K.
- In Medellin's El Centro/Veracruz, 2 girls said yes to 20 K COP. Hmm. They accepted too fast. Maybe your friend is correct; they may take 10 K. I offered 20 K additional tip for CIM, which they accepted.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2226238]As I said, I'm new to Medellin still. If anybody wants to hit up a club or catch a game at a bar, PM me.[/QUOTE]Can't PM you because you're new I guess, I'm 37 and speak Spanish as well. I'm trying to move down here and need info so I definitely want to link up, I'm here till Oct 1st for now. This city has too much to offer for short visits. Do me a favor and hit me on whatsapp, its a temporary number anyway, beers on me.
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Any suggestion on the best blade to purchase silidinifil there? Last time I was there I visited a Pharmacia and bought the "namebrand" version. I prefer the off brand which doesn't have the horrid side affects. Any recommendations s on the best place to pick up the Gringo Assistance tablets? Any recommendations on brand? Price Per? Location to purchase? I have a connection in San Jose that can send me the goods but I don't know how I feel going through customs with them and no prescription. Rather buy on site there and throw away the left overs before coming back to the US.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2226238]Strip clubs. I'm a strip joint kind of guy. I like to interact with the girls a little before getting down to business. I've had good luck at the Centro clubs below.
Conejitas. Been here three times. Paid around 60 K each time, 30 minutes. Two decent but nothing special sessions, and one very cool one with a voluptuous paisa who has since become a GF. She'll hang out for an entire evening (3-4 hours) for 100 K and that includes multiple sessions and GFE experience, which I like. She talks about going on overnight trips and the like, very personable and cool chick.
Grille Nueva. I think this is the name; it's on the same block as Conejitas. I went here a couple of times, sessioned for 50-60 K and found a great little costena who did BBBJ unsolicited and has become a GF like the one above. She comes all the way to my place in Envigado, as well, for multiple sessions, and lets me take photos and video. 120 K for a couple of hours. Gives excellent service..[/QUOTE]If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas.
Barra Ejecutiva-Calle 53 #48-20.
And 2 doors down:
Maracaibo-Calle 53 #49-30.
And the street walker scene is OK, hard to beat 30 k for a 18 yo spinner. That's the Vera Cruz girls, the Raudal block girls are a little more but sometimes hotter.
Redlight blocks, I have a map and directions in post #27032.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2226406]Any suggestion on the best blade to purchase silidinifil there? Last time I was there I visited a Pharmacia and bought the "namebrand" version. I prefer the off brand which doesn't have the horrid side affects. Any recommendations s on the best place to pick up the Gringo Assistance tablets? Any recommendations on brand? Price Per? Location to purchase? I have a connection in San Jose that can send me the goods but I don't know how I feel going through customs with them and no prescription. Rather buy on site there and throw away the left overs before coming back to the US.[/QUOTE]You can get it at any Drogueria. Prices vary. At the Drogueria Alemana on Calle 10, El Poblado its about 8500 cop for a single 100 MG tablet. At Drogueria San Ignacio, 2 blocks away, it's about 6500 for 4 50 MG tablets. San Ignacio also has an extra discount on everything on Tuesday and Thursday.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226423]If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas. [/QUOTE]Yeah awesome, I've been gathering tons of info going through the posts and those two in particular look like must-sees.
Your report and map (once I figure out how to pay and access it) are much appreciated. I've walked around that area but rather aimlessly, and I wasn't sure what the going rates are. Now I do.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226423] And the street walker scene is OK, hard to beat 30 k for a 18 yo spinner. That's the Vera Cruz girls, the Raudal block girls are a little more but sometimes hotter. [/QUOTE]I meant to ask also: do you know anything about the SW scene near the Ayura station in Envigado? I saw on the badass comprehensive map that there's a seemingly large scene directly to the west of the station. That's walking distance for me! Haha. Just wondering if anybody has any recent news. If not, I will explore and report back soon.
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Any suggestions on how to find a maid / cook who will.
A) do a decent job. First priority.
B) work partially or fully nude.
FYI.
1. I would not be expecting sex from this person. But I would like the service and like naked women so it makes sense to combine the two.
2. thinking about daily service during my stay. Not a one off.
- Most of the action is on that one small street, Carrera 53 (between Calle 51 & Calle 52).
- Most of the girls asked for 30 K COP for half hour. I was asked to pay for the short time hotel every single time. Is that standard? It was usually 10 K for 1 hour; one place was 15 K. Note: the short time hotel on Carrera 53, south of Calle 51 is totally disgusting. A cleaner one is on Calle 51, west of Carrera 53.
- None of the girls asked for more than 30 K. It was always half hour. One girl (a little chubby) actually wanted 20 K. Another wanted 25 K. The girl who wanted 20 K said she would do BBBJ. In the room, she asked for 5 K more for the BBBJ; wow, a whole $1.66 USD more!
- A few of the girls said yes to BBBJ for 30 K, without mentioning a tip. One actually said yes to BBBJ and CIM for 30 K. I changed my style, and I asked the girl for the BBBJ on the street, instead of in the room. A few said yes. A few said no, but in the room I offered a tip. Some of them accepted.
- Overall, I was able to get BBBJ from more than half the girls in Vera Cruz. Maybe 75%. Most were not clock watchers. I usually got 20 to 25 minutes for my half hour; that's pretty good. A lot of them actually seemed nice. Maybe the old saying is true, where the girls from Medellin has a better reputation than the girls from Bogota. It seems the girls at Vera Cruz are a lot better in terms of service and rip offs than the girls from Santa Fe. But since I haven't truly explore Bogota's Santa Fe SWs (except for 1 day couple of years ago), I can't make a valid comparison, yet.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2226679]I meant to ask also: do you know anything about the SW scene near the Ayura station in Envigado? I saw on the badass comprehensive map that there's a seemingly large scene directly to the west of the station. That's walking distance for me! Haha. Just wondering if anybody has any recent news. If not, I will explore and report back soon.[/QUOTE]Sure, that is the Mayorista redlight block, it's Calle 85, S side after Carr50 A. It's a block of small bars and short term hotels, more girls there at night and weekends then during the day I believe, I have only been there twice because I stay down in Centro and the Vera Cruz and Raudal blocks are more convenient for me.
Facebook does lots of research before launching new services. The choice of Colombia is a tell that they discovered there is already a lot of this activity happening on Colombia centric facebook profiles. If the normal Facebook tracking isn't enough for you, diving into this new service is a sure way to get more of it.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2226702][URL]https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-dating-how-it-works/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
This will be my first rip this this country of women with great asses. I ave a few questions:
1. Do they have uber there and can you use the same app as the USA Uber?
2. How anyone tried Colombian dating sites prior to arriving to meet females first online. Then arrange rend-de-vouz once in country? How did it workout.
2. Is there a listing of all the SW action with street names or landmarks.
3. Is it acceptable to pay afterwards?
4. How is the Colombian Police? I have been to the Dominican Republic and the police will setup road blocks where the SW hangout just get get money from guys who go up and down the same street too much looking at the women.
5. Do most of the hotels offer safe or lock box.
6. What are the absolute worst areas of Medellin to stay away from. I have seen the Utube videos of Motorcycle bandits riding up to people and pulling out a gun to rob them then speed off.
Any other advice for a first time would be great!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2226466]You can get it at any Drogueria. Prices vary. At the Drogueria Alemana on Calle 10, El Poblado its about 8500 cop for a single 100 MG tablet. At Drogueria San Ignacio, 2 blocks away, it's about 6500 for 4 50 MG tablets. San Ignacio also has an extra discount on everything on Tuesday and Thursday.[/QUOTE]San Ignacio on Calle 10 is closed. Their price on Tuesdays and Thursdays was about 4900 for four 50 MG tablets. Two weeks ago, I bought four 50 MG tablets at Farmacia Pasteur in Laureles for 5771. Farmacia Pasteur has many stores throughout Medellin. I always but the Genfar brand.
- I started to offer 10 K COP tip for BBBJ. It worked couple of times.
- Had my first really bad experience. Didn't ask price. I tried to hand her 30 K. She said 50 K. I said no and started to walk out. She then said yes. At the street, she said yes to BBBJ. Now she wanted to use a condom. Had to offer her 10 K tip for BBBJ. She said yes. After several minutes, she said no more BJ.
- Don't fully understand about the short time rooms. The one on Calle 51 seems to be for an hour for 10 K. One in the middle of Carrera 53 (east side) was 15 K; it was nicer. I went there today; after 30 minutes, I got a knock. The girl said it was 15 K for 30 miniutes; she wanted 15 K for 30 more minutes. WTF! Did the girl get a commission for taking me to that short time hotel? If it is a 30 minute room, I thought you would get a knock at 20. Another girl mentioned something about 40 minutes. Are the rooms at the short time hotel in the middle of Carrera 53 for 30,40 or 60 minutes?
- I went to another short time hotel on Carrera 53 on the west side. Yesterday, she charged me 10 K. Today, she charged me 15 K. WTF! Did I get overcharged? Maybe I made a mistake by using them to break a 50K bill. Next time, I should just hand them a 10K bill.
I'd had trouble here in the past with hardcore puta attitudes, and everyone who has sessioned here knows the rooms are suspect. Yet nightime options are limited in Medellin outside of strip clubs or calling in delivery.
This is the short version. I buy a girl a lady drink and it went well enough. Go to the room and she demands more $ to give a condom BJ to get things started. I asked her for my $ back as I never touched her. She refused.
Went and got the manager and through Google Translate he just kept saying that I should have arranged for the condom BJ in advance. Say what? LOL he thus supported her contention that she should be paid even though no services were provided.
I will not return, and if you decide to visit here I recommend that you keep this report in mind.
[QUOTE=Getsum;2226841]Hey guys,
This will be my first rip this this country of women with great asses. I ave a few questions:
1. Do they have uber there and can you use the same app as the USA Uber?
2. How anyone tried Colombian dating sites prior to arriving to meet females first online. Then arrange rend-de-vouz once in country? How did it workout.
2. Is there a listing of all the SW action with street names or landmarks.[/QUOTE]1. Yes and yes.
2. Yes. Read the forum to find out how it worked out.
Other 2. Yes.
3. Yes, sometimes. Depends. Read the forum to learn more.
4. The police have never bothered me. Other people say the police have bothered them. Read the forum for details.
5. No. Most of the nicer hotels yes, but most of the hotels aren't nicer hotels. Read the forum to learn more.
6. There are 249 neighborhoods on Medellin. You will probably only be visiting less than 10. Read the forum to find out which ones you need to visit.
Other advice for a first time visitor: Read the forum.
Seriously dude, RTFF!
[QUOTE=Getsum;2226841]Hey guys,
This will be my first rip this this country of women with great asses. I ave a few questions:
1. Do they have uber there and can you use the same app as the USA Uber?
2. How anyone tried Colombian dating sites prior to arriving to meet females first online. Then arrange rend-de-vouz once in country? How did it workout.
2. Is there a listing of all the SW action with street names or landmarks.
3. Is it acceptable to pay afterwards?
4. How is the Colombian Police? I have been to the Dominican Republic and the police will setup road blocks where the SW hangout just get get money from guys who go up and down the same street too much looking at the women.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HolyTrinity;2226394]Can't PM you because you're new I guess, I'm 37 and speak Spanish as well. I'm trying to move down here and need info so I definitely want to link up, I'm here till Oct 1st for now. This city has too much to offer for short visits. Do me a favor and hit me on whatsapp, its a temporary number anyway, beers on me.[/QUOTE]Hey man,
As soon as I figure out a way to send payment, I'll PM you. My American CC cards are being blocked, and outside of cash, there doesn't seem to be an alternate method like PayPal.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226826]Sure, that is the Mayorista redlight block, it's Calle 85, S side after Carr50 A. It's a block of small bars and short term hotels, more girls there at night and weekends then during the day I believe, I have only been there twice because I stay down in Centro and the Vera Cruz and Raudal blocks are more convenient for me.[/QUOTE]Okay, thanks again. Same general pricing as el Centro?
My to-do list is growing rapidly, haha, but I'll certainly check this area out soon, probably next week.
Having trouble with my American CCs.
Anybody on here want to help me out? I'm happy to send $20 and a little extra via PayPal or the like first if somebody can use their card to purchase a subscription.
Perhaps if I get a taker, the Administrators here will allow me PM-sending privileges momentarily, so we can exchange info and I can send them money. What say you, Administrators? Please take my money.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2226927]
1.
2. Read the forum to find out how it worked out.
3. Read the forum to learn more.
4. Read the forum for details.
5. Read the forum to learn more.
6.Read the forum.[/QUOTE]That's Sound advice there! When I first joined a couple of years ago, I asked some very basic questions & was promptly told to "RTFF" Well, I kinda got my feelings hurt a little, but went back in the forum chronologically 2 years. I learned sooooo much, that I quickly learned the reason for the RTFF responses. Every question I had was answered in previous posts! I still read on an every weekday basis & still learn quite a bit.
So Jj, I agree that sound advice to anyone would be to read the forum to learn more. I went blue water fishing in El Salvador for Labor Day weekend and at least 75 % of my trip was planned and carried out from intel off of the ES forum & guys on that forum helping me out.
What an awesome Forum!!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2226831]Facebook does lots of research before launching new services. The choice of Colombia is a tell that they discovered there is already a lot of this activity happening on Colombia centric facebook profiles. If the normal Facebook tracking isn't enough for you, diving into this new service is a sure way to get more of it.[/QUOTE]It is interesting that the application will create a separate profile that will be inaccessible to your current friends on Facebook. The reason why I did not use Facebook in Medellin was so that nothing untoward would come up in my feed. I have read reports of guys creating separate Medellin profiles for the purposes of hooking up. I signed up for Instagram and all of a sudden some of my Facebook friends were following me whereas I was only following chicas found on Tinder and Seeking.
I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.
So now that I am safely home I will write a detailed trip report. This will not be a day by day report but more of a summary of what I learned in terms of mongering and just living in Medellin. Also I was only in Medellin for 4 days and am a complete newbie when it comes to this scene, so some of my information may be incorrect. I also don't speak a lick of spanish.
First let's get the logistics and non mongering issues out of the way. I landed at the airport at 11:30 pm, at this time there were plenty of taxis to take you back to the city. The cost of a taxi in to the city is around 70 mil. My airbnb host said they could send me a driver for the same amount of money, which I accepted. If you don't have COP on you when you arrive there are ATMs right next to the exit of the airport. The drive into Medellin from the airport is 45-50 minutes long. The airbnb I stayed at was the San Peter Apartments in Laureles for $29 a night. They are nice, clean one bedroom apartments. The only issue I had with them was that their wifi was terrible and the blankets they provide are quite small. They are girl friendly with no fee. A girl could even spend the night with you if you wanted at no extra charge. They just need her cedula. I recommend booking through airbnb rather than [URL]book.com[/URL] as it is $10 cheaper and gives you direct contact with the host. Be warned that if you are a light sleeper they have music on at the bar downstairs until late at night, did not bother me though.
Now for money ATMs are the best way to get your money. They have the best exchange rate, much better than converting at an exchange. If you can find an divienda ATM use that as there is no ATM fee. Bancolombia ATMs have a 13200 COP fee. If you must exchange the one I went to was in the Unicentro Mall called Money Max, they had the best rates at 2755 per dollar, just remember to bring your passport.
Uber is the the #1 I got around. It's super cheap with most trips costing only $2-$3. Plus you don't have to deal with cash. Just remember to attach your Uber payment to Paypal as I found it does not give international credit card fees. Also, the Uber will not come if there are taxis around, so walk to where there are less taxis and meet the uber there. The metro is also very nice and efficient. It is super clean, DO NOT bring any food or drink in there. They will kick you out as they are very anal about cleanliness in there. It is 2400 COP a ride I believe. The give you a card with however many ride you want on it. If it is only one ride or your last ride than you put the card in the slit. If you have more than 1 ride left on the card you just tap in on the screen. Taxis are also relatively cheap, but you have to give cash which is a pain especially with those small amounts. Remember to make them turn on the meter to prevent getting scammed. To to get an google maps and Ubers you need data for you phone. I got a SIM + 4 gb of data for 75000 COP at a Tigo. They need your passport as well. Okay I feel like that covers everything you need to know for a smooth trip.
Now onto the mongering. From what I have read and seen here there are four avenues to getting a girl here. Facebook, strip clubs, casas, and street action. I only participated in the facebook, strip club, and casa scene. If you want detailed information on cost, open times, and location I recommend you ask for permission for the medellin map and download the chica list made by World6969.
Facebook: I had sex with 3 facebook girls. I first friend requested over 200 girls who I thought were working girls, regardless of looks by looking at gringo profiles friends list and who liked their pictures. Go look up a guy named "medellin rich" and add him. His list is full of putas, I don't know if it is one of you guys LOL. Now, of the girls that accepted my request I deleted all of the ones that I did not like in terms of looks. You also get more recommendations since your list is full of those types of girls now. After than I messaged each girls asking "hola amor, estas disponible para conocer? Maybe 50% responded. I then asked how much their services were. Most girls replied with 200-250 mil, some 300 mil, and only one for 150 mil. I could easily get the 300 mil girls to 250 but the 200 and 250 mil girls would not budge. They also all want taxi money. All of them provided BBBJ and kissing. Of them I picked my favorites and asked them to meet at a specific time. Here's some tips when looking at pictures. If they don't show their stomachs and they have kids, they have baby damage. If they look thick in their pictures they are probably even more so in real life, to the point of being fat. No girl will look at as hot as her pictures, these girls are experts at taking selfies. The first girl I had was 200 mil + 20 mil taxi. She had baby damage but had a pretty face and good attitude. The second girl was 250 mil, no taxi. She looked really hot in her pictures but was not as hot in real life. Service was okay, not the best. I regret it. Third girl was the jackpot. She was only 150 mil + 20 mil taxi and was pretty as her pictures. She was very sensual and provided great service. I would have definitely repeated if I had the time. The girls will always be 20-30 minutes late and have the craziest excuses, from there was an 8 car pile up on the street to there was a gas leak in their building and they had to evacuate. It's a hit or miss situation with these girls, but if you find a good one it is worth it. Also to note, do not set up more that an hour appointment with any new girl, especially if you don't speak spanish, it gets awkward real fast if you can't talk to each other. Pros is that if is relatively easy, who just stay home and ask a girl to come. Cons is that it is expensive and you never know how the girl really looks.
Casas: I had sex with at least 8 casa girls, lost count. I have a more detailed report below, but the gist is that it is cheap, girls don't look as good but still hot, expect everything to be covered unless you can spark a deal up with the girl in the room. At most you will pay 50 mil peso for 30 minutes, besides Energy and Loutron. My favorite is New Life as they always had the largest selection of girls and they were also the most attractive. If you don't like any of the girls who can leave, but you might have to pay a 2-3 mil viewing fee. Pros is that they are cheap and you can see what the girls look like and leave if you don't like anything. Cons is that they are in sketchy areas, but if you are relatively cautious and go in the day you should fine and BBBJ is not guaranteed, impossible for me.
Stripclubs: I only went to two stripclubs, fase dos and luna lunera. I prefer fase dos as the cover charge is only 10 mil compared to the 50 mil cover in luna lunera. There are more girls and hotter girls at fas dos as well. These places are just tamer Hong Kong Tijuana clubs, although a bit cheaper. The girls cost 190 mil an hour at fase dos and you take them next door bang. I asked four girls who I found hot if they did BBBJ but every single one refused, even at a 50 k tip. Eventually I took one next door for 190 mil. Remember to bring your own condoms as the charge you for theirs. Sex was terrible, she was rushing me which made it even harder for me to come. Eventually just told her to shut up and pounded away until I came and left immediately. I gave the cleaning lady 2 mil for a tip. The drinks are pretty expensive, I had a coke for 6 mil and a redbull for 24 mil, I recommend sticking with the coke LOL. After every dance the girls come down to collect tips. Only ever give 2 mil, some girls want more just say no. Remember to bring lots of 2 mil bills. They let you grope them and give you a mini lap dance for that tip. They have a smoke machine so if you have breathing problems be aware. Music isn't too loud. Never go before 10 pm, it is dead before than, even if it opens earlier.
Well that was my experience. It was good, but I feel like to have made it amazing I would need to learn spanish. I feel like you can really connect with these girls if you could speak to them, making the sex a lot better. I will be back once I learn spanish and go to the other mongering hotspots, sao paulo and german fkks. Thank you for all the information you guys have provided it was very useful. I hope someone will find this report useful as well.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2227052]Okay, thanks again. Same general pricing as el Centro?
My to-do list is growing rapidly, haha, but I'll certainly check this area out soon, probably next week.[/QUOTE]A bit more then the 30 k VeraCruz girls, more in line with the 40-60 k Raudal girls though they may try to get more from a newbie gringo.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2227146]
Stripclubs: I only went to two stripclubs, fase dos and luna lunera. I prefer fase dos as the cover charge is only 10 mil compared to the 50 mil cover in luna lunera. There are more girls and hotter girls at fas dos as well. These places are just tamer Hong Kong Tijuana clubs, although a bit cheaper. The girls cost 190 mil an hour at fase dos and you take them next door bang. I asked four girls who I found hot if they did BBBJ but every single one refused, even at a 50 k tip. Eventually I took one next door for 190 mil. Remember to bring your own condoms as the charge you for theirs. Sex was terrible, she was rushing me which made it even harder for me to come. Eventually just told her to shut up and pounded away until I came and left immediately. I gave the cleaning lady 2 mil for a tip. The drinks are pretty expensive, I had a coke for 6 mil and a redbull for 24 mil, I recommend sticking with the coke LOL. After every dance the girls come down to collect tips. Only ever give 2 mil, some girls want more just say no. Remember to bring lots of 2 mil bills. They let you grope them and give you a mini lap dance for that tip. They have a smoke machine so if you have breathing problems be aware. Music isn't too loud. Never go before 10 pm, it is dead before than, even if it opens earlier.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2226917]I'd had trouble here in the past with hardcore puta attitudes, and everyone who has sessioned here knows the rooms are suspect. Yet nightime options are limited in Medellin outside of strip clubs or calling in delivery.
This is the short version. I buy a girl a lady drink and it went well enough. Go to the room and she demands more $ to give a condom BJ to get things started. I asked her for my $ back as I never touched her. She refused.
Went and got the manager and through Google Translate he just kept saying that I should have arranged for the condom BJ in advance. Say what? LOL he thus supported her contention that she should be paid even though no services were provided.
I will not return, and if you decide to visit here I recommend that you keep this report in mind.[/QUOTE]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3.
I feel it's safer to just go with the flow in Centro, I took a VeraCruz spinner up to a room there and she turned out to have the wrong chromosomes, I didn't ask for my 30 k back, I just said never mind and left, not worth causing a scene over $10 amd maybe getting stabbed or beat up over it.
On the other hand I don't secession much at Barra Ejectiva because the rooms are usually too hot or dark for me, Conejitas has much nicer room, and even Maracaibos little rooms aren't as hot or dark.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227152]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.[/QUOTE]Yeah I felt that 50 k was too high, but it was 1 am and I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing out on anything. Turns out I wasnt. Fase dos was superior.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227163]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3..[/QUOTE]Hi Wolf,
The manager knew the deal broke down before we got started. It was a three way conversation him, myself, and the girl, so the club doesn't have that out. And I know a good bit of Spanish. Most of the conversing was done without translation.
I didn't ask the cost of her upsell. I also have gotten plenty of condom BJs with no upsell in Medellin. That of course is the norm.
I agree with your assessment of the Ejectiva rooms.
I also have gotten refunds at Centro strip clubs on two occasions so "cute" worked fine in those instances. In all cases I've been calm and non-aggressive.
Strip clubs are off my agenda for the rest of this trip. Though convenient if in Centro when the casas close, I have better options.
To me it looks like Facebook is making a play to replace Ashley Madison. For the sake of guys who get involved with it, I hope the Facebook version plays out differently than Ashley Madison did.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2227087]It is interesting that the application will create a separate profile that will be inaccessible to your current friends on Facebook. The reason why I did not use Facebook in Medellin was so that nothing untoward would come up in my feed. I have read reports of guys creating separate Medellin profiles for the purposes of hooking up. I signed up for Instagram and all of a sudden some of my Facebook friends were following me whereas I was only following chicas found on Tinder and Seeking.
I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.[/QUOTE]
The poor guy got royally screwed at Luna Lunera. I'm sorry to read about them charging a cover. I never paid an entry fee and I can't remember ever even buying a drink, it's optional. You can negotiate the half hour fee down to 110,000 K during off peak hours.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227152]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.[/QUOTE]
Great advice about going with the flow. It's easy to avoid the Crying Game scenario by just asking the provider "tu eres hembra?" They won't take offense.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227163]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2226679]I meant to ask also: do you know anything about the SW scene near the Ayura station in Envigado? I saw on the badass comprehensive map that there's a seemingly large scene directly to the west of the station. That's walking distance for me! Haha. Just wondering if anybody has any recent news. If not, I will explore and report back soon.[/QUOTE]This is the Mayorista area. There is a Chevy dealership there next to the Ayura station. Walk down the street past the Chevy dealer for about 15 minutes and you will see an area of bars and hotels on your left. You will see SW in that area. Tables and chairs out on the sidewalk if you want to have food or drinks. Overall quality not that great but you may find a chica you like. Most girls working after 10 PM.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2227247]Great advice about going with the flow. It's easy to avoid the Crying Game scenario by just asking the provider "tu eres hembra?" They won't take offense.[/QUOTE]Though any Ejectiva ho stepping way outside the norm upcharging a CBJ is surely looking for more than 10 mil. Don't apply your street corner / transexual interviews to all situations.
Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women. So stop being so tight was that you pass up on her over 10 american dollars. You would pay that to get a cheeseburger meal in the states and not bat an eye. Your fucking getting a girl to suck you without a condom! Big difference here. In my experience the biggest reason and "not always" but usually the reason womenarent good in bed is because quite frankly "She doesn't want to be there with you". Rather she's not attracted to you or she has other things on her mind and wants to make her money and get the heck out so she can pay that internet bill at home. Regardless I've experience that when money negotiations happen the walls go up. When you start haggling the price, in her head she's frustrated. On the surface she's smiling and engaged in the bidding war, but the more the price goes down, the more her desire goes down. Now she's definately going to take the lower price at some point but now you just became the guy that she has very little if any desire to fuck. She now has that stimulation to just hurry this along. Usually if you get a dead fish prostitute, there us a reason. She's a dead fish to you but a pornstar to someone else that she "Wants to fuck". This just my opinion and everyone has their own experiences so this is subjective. My method is this: have a set price on what I'm willing to spend on a girl. No more than [URL]xxx.xxx[/URL] COP. Rather I'm in a strip club or wherever. I find the girl that makes my eyes big. I look at her body, smile, attitude, aggressiveness. If she comes off like a sexual tiger and has all the things I'm looking for, my mental price point adjust. We speak and it seems like she's ready to fuck me also. We now have a sexual connection. Perfect. She gives a price let's say 250.000 COP. Now here's the problem my price point is 150 k. That's 100.000 more than my price point. Sounds horrible until you think about it. Wait. That's $35. She is in her head thinking please say yes please say yes hahahahhah. My response is usually I would never pay that price but for a girl as attractive as you are, I will but just this once. Bro if she is that hot do not freaking ruin the vibe by trying to negotiate down to 200.000 k. Why?? Because as I said. Its $35 freaking dollars. As soon as you go lower, she exhales just a little bit. That exhale is mist of sexual performance leaving her body. She now is in negotiation mode and for every dollar you take away the less she wants to be there. Yes you can save $15 by getting her down to 200 k and closer to your 150 k price point but it's the mental motivation that you are sacrificing here! Now let me clear one thing up before you crop my post and reply to one sentence just to rebuttle my thought process. This applies only to the chicka you really want to bang. This isn't the concept you use for that 6 in the massage parlor but can be applied there also with similar affect. I am not telling you not to ever negotiate, because some of these women can give you an outrageous price expecting a negotiation but only you can determine rather its outrageous or not. Come to Columbia thinking I'm going to expect to spend xxx / girl. Set you maximum price per girl. If you see one close to your dream girl and you let $35 ruin the mental sexual connection for you two that's your own damn fault. Why are you even overseas without $35 to spare?! There's always that chick that is going to be a dead fish no matter what she's getting paid. That's because "She doesn't want to have sex with you " so it's out of your control. Just hear her price, if it is in you range and you want to bang her, screw the exhausting haggle crap. Save that for the girls you could care less if you bang. We are here in this country for 3 things. Beautiful women, experiences, and memories. If her price is too high and you can't / don't want to spend it. This moment determines a lot. I usually say OK let me get your number and I'll whattsapp you tonight or tomorrow. She's now on my back burner. I keep moving until I find the perfect situation price and beauty with minimal haggle if any. When you say YES to their price without being that guy, it seems like the sexual experience is "usually" better and that's what you are here for. That's what you will remember 5 years from now. Most of all Spoil yourself! Your on vacation!! Fuck $35!
Does anyone know the name of the street where these girls work on the weekends?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2227508]Does anyone know the name of the street where these girls work on the weekends?[/QUOTE]Calle de la Universidad.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2225743]Did a casa run yesterday. Went to basically every casa on the map that was open except loutron, if you could consider that a casa. Most casas do not have the greatest looking chicas. I tried to session at each one even if I didn't like any girls, but some places had girls that were too ugly to fuck. [/QUOTE]Last time I visited just one to one spa on laureles, also too ugly, something like secret spa. Is there any casa where girlr are like 8+ , I may visit Medellin again, will try New life or Energy, maybe Loutron? . The only place I lreally iked the girsl were at Gustos, but is expensive, I want to try the casas.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490]Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women. So stop being so tight was that you pass up on her over 10 american dollars. You would pay that to get a cheeseburger meal in the states and not bat an eye. Your fucking getting a girl to suck you without a condom! Big difference here. In my experience the biggest reason and "not always" but usually the reason womenarent good in bed is because quite frankly "She doesn't want to be there with you". Rather she's not attracted to you or she has other things on her mind and wants to make her money and get the heck out so she can pay that internet bill at home. Regardless I've experience that when money negotiations happen the walls go up. When you start haggling the price, in her head she's frustrated. On the surface she's smiling and engaged in the bidding war, but the more the price goes down, the more her desire goes down. Now she's definately going to take the lower price at some point but now you just became the guy that she has very little if any desire to fuck. She now has that stimulation to just hurry this along. Usually if you get a dead fish prostitute, there us a reason. She's a dead fish to you but a pornstar to someone else that she "Wants to fuck". This just my opinion and everyone has their own experiences so this is subjective. My method is this: have a set price on what I'm willing to spend on a girl. No more than [URL]xxx.xxx[/URL] COP. Rather I'm in a strip club or wherever. I find the girl that makes my eyes big. I look at her body, smile, attitude, aggressiveness. If she comes off like a sexual tiger and has all the things I'm looking for, my mental price point adjust. We speak and it seems like she's ready to fuck me also. We now have a sexual connection. Perfect. She gives a price let's say 250.000 COP. Now here's the problem my price point is 150 k. That's 100.000 more than my price point. Sounds horrible until you think about it. Wait. That's $35. She is in her head thinking please say yes please say yes hahahahhah. My response is usually I would never pay that price but for a girl as attractive as you are, I will but just this once. Bro if she is that hot do not freaking ruin the vibe by trying to negotiate down to 200.000 k. Why?? Because as I said. Its $35 freaking dollars. As soon as you go lower, she exhales just a little bit. That exhale is mist of sexual performance leaving her body. She now is in negotiation mode and for every dollar you take away the less she wants to be there. Yes you can save $15 by getting her down to 200 k and closer to your 150 k price point but it's the mental motivation that you are sacrificing here! Now let me clear one thing up before you crop my post and reply to one sentence just to rebuttle my thought process. This applies only to the chicka you really want to bang. This isn't the concept you use for that 6 in the massage parlor but can be applied there also with similar affect. I am not telling you not to ever negotiate, because some of these women can give you an outrageous price expecting a negotiation but only you can determine rather its outrageous or not. Come to Columbia thinking I'm going to expect to spend xxx / girl. Set you maximum price per girl. If you see one close to your dream girl and you let $35 ruin the mental sexual connection for you two that's your own damn fault. Why are you even overseas without $35 to spare?! There's always that chick that is going to be a dead fish no matter what she's getting paid. That's because "She doesn't want to have sex with you " so it's out of your control. Just hear her price, if it is in you range and you want to bang her, screw the exhausting haggle crap. Save that for the girls you could care less if you bang. We are here in this country for 3 things. Beautiful women, experiences, and memories. If her price is too high and you can't / don't want to spend it. This moment determines a lot. I usually say OK let me get your number and I'll whattsapp you tonight or tomorrow. She's now on my back burner. I keep moving until I find the perfect situation price and beauty with minimal haggle if any. When you say YES to their price without being that guy, it seems like the sexual experience is "usually" better and that's what you are here for. That's what you will remember 5 years from now. Most of all Spoil yourself! Your on vacation!! Fuck $35![/QUOTE]I agree with you about arguing over 10 lousy dollars but I disagree with most everything else you said. First, if you think that any of these girls WANT to fuck us you are delusional. Second, if she was lousy in bed for 100 K she would have been lousy in bed at 200 K. That said, you can definitely ruin a session with hard and long negotiation, just avoid it by not asking what their price is and instead tell them what you are willing to pay, if she wants a few pesos more than what you offered you decide if you think that she is worth it and either walk away or seal the deal, it is not rocket science but never ever ask a girl what her price is. And by the way, it is spelled Col-O-mbia.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2227513]Calle de la Universidad.[/QUOTE]Thanks. What do the girls usually charge? Am I wrong to assume they would be hotter than the normal street walkers you would see in Vera Cruz or Lleras area?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2227557]Thanks. What do the girls usually charge? Am I wrong to assume they would be hotter than the normal street walkers you would see in Vera Cruz or Lleras area?[/QUOTE]I think you triggered one of the rarest peaks of fine humor of Mr. Express. He was so good that you did not get it.
Did you look for "CL. De La Universidad" on Google Maps? Did you find anything downtown or in a remote neighborough?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2227532] And by the way, it is spelled Col-O-mbia.[/QUOTE]I am always amazed by those gringoes who read about the place before travelling, buy a ticket, book a hotel, fly there, come back, and still did not learn that there's Colombia and there's Washington DC.
The SWs in Centro increase significantly in numbers and quality Saturday afternoon. Guaranteed to find something you like out there right now.
Most of all Spoil yourself! Your on vacation!
I am so sick of this excuse for over paying.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2227246]The poor guy got royally screwed at Luna Lunera. I'm sorry to read about them charging a cover. I never paid an entry fee and I can't remember ever even buying a drink, it's optional. You can negotiate the half hour fee down to 110,000 K during off peak hours.[/QUOTE]Me too, over the past 2 or 3 years I stop in Luna Lunera once every other month or so as my Colombian friend like to hang out a bit there, I have NEVER had to pay any entrance fee.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2227528]Last time I visited just one to one spa on laureles, also too ugly, something like secret spa. Is there any casa where girlr are like 8+ , I may visit Medellin again, will try New life or Energy, maybe Loutron? . The only place I lreally iked the girsl were at Gustos, but is expensive, I want to try the casas.[/QUOTE]Just about any place is better than Secret Spa. They are the same price as Energy, but the girls there wouldn't make it in a casa charging 1/3 the price.
Try Energy, New Life, Aiffe, Sexxy Amigas, Yakuza or just about any other casa.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2227557]Thanks. What do the girls usually charge? Am I wrong to assume they would be hotter than the normal street walkers you would see in Vera Cruz or Lleras area?[/QUOTE]All of them are 10's with no kids, 18 years old, give perfect GFE and PSE at the same time and the only charge 20 k for 3 hours, or 30 k if you want a threesome.
Holy crap, guys hate on this place so much it's starting to make me curious. It's like a bad road accident you don't want to see but can't help slowing down to take a look.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2227676]Just about any place is better than Secret Spa. They are the same price as Energy, but the girls there wouldn't make it in a casa charging 1/3 the price.
Try Energy, New Life, Aiffe, Sexxy Amigas, Yakuza or just about any other casa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2227683]All of them are 10's with no kids, 18 years old, give perfect GFE and PSE at the same time and the only charge 20 k for 3 hours, or 30 k if you want a threesome.[/QUOTE]What's with the sarcasm? LOL.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2227676]Just about any place is better than Secret Spa. They are the same price as Energy, but the girls there wouldn't make it in a casa charging 1/3 the price.
Try Energy, New Life, Aiffe, Sexxy Amigas, Yakuza or just about any other casa.[/QUOTE]Sounds about right.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2227706]Holy crap, guys hate on this place so much it's starting to make me curious. It's like a bad road accident you don't want to see but can't help slowing down to take a look.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to an Asian Massage Parlor in. Let's use Indianapolis? The young one is 40 and below average in looks. You don't want to know about the old ones. That's not what Secret Spa is like, but compared to what's available in Medellin, it's what it feels like.
Walked in once after a complete knockout handed me a card on La 70.4 girls, all chubby, none of them particularly attractive. Not ugly, just US average, which is well below Medellin average. 1 of them I probably would have taken, if I was really horny and the price was under 80 k.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2227733]What's with the sarcasm? LOL.[/QUOTE]University girl hookers are mostly a myth. Especially in Colombia. Especially walking the streets in Colombia.
There are girls going to university who get into prostitution. Usually with an escort agency, or through a friend who's working through ads, Facebook or another online method. But after a few months they either decide it's not for them, or they do the math. A newly degreed professional in Colombia is lucky to earn 2 million COP per month. A prepago working Facebook, etc. Can earn that in a week. After a few weeks university is no longer part of the plan.
So, there's no "Calle de la Universidad", I almost choked when I read that, and there's no street where you're going to find a bunch of innocent university student streetwalkers.
You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2227920]University girl hookers are mostly a myth. Especially in Colombia. Especially walking the streets in Colombia.
There are girls going to university who get into prostitution. Usually with an escort agency, or through a friend who's working through ads, Facebook or another online method. But after a few months they either decide it's not for them, or they do the math. A newly degreed professional in Colombia is lucky to earn 2 million COP per month. A prepago working Facebook, etc. Can earn that in a week. After a few weeks university is no longer part of the plan.
So, there's no "Calle de la Universidad", I almost choked when I read that, and there's no street where you're going to find a bunch of innocent university student streetwalkers.
You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.[/QUOTE]Met a chica that was a periodista for a small local news channel and was a University student. Was actually only able to meet her because a chica I had been seeing for years told her I was "good to go" when she inquired about me (a good rep goes a long way in this game).
She told me she had to be at school on a Saturday morning for an exam, but could still come for TLN as long as she woke up on time.
Well, we ended up getting super-wasted and I forgot to set an alarm, LOL. She woke and was like "damn", but we laughed about it. She wasn't really concerned about missing the exam because she made more in one night than any career she is going for would ever pay her. And there's nothing wrong with that!
Some chicas take school seriously and end up getting careers (and will still see you after work or on a a day off). Others use it as a front for their p r e p a g o side hustle, or just to get out of the house from boredom if their side hustle makes them so much money that they don't have to work a normal job.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2227920]You can find plenty on Facebook who are attending some sort of trade school, usually for 150-200 k. I've got a few student cosmetologists and a student nurse in my list. You can find girls who claim to be students on Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Some may actually be students.[/QUOTE]Are any of you concerned about the info shared on SA? I've used it on the US side and it shows prospective sugar babies your income and net worth ranges.
I'd be hesitant to have that kind of info shared in a place like Medellin. I think you run the risk of becoming a bigger target.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2228122]Are any of you concerned about the info shared on SA? I've used it on the US side and it shows prospective sugar babies your income and net worth ranges.
I'd be hesitant to have that kind of info shared in a place like Medellin. I think you run the risk of becoming a bigger target.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right. Never a good idea to flaunt your wealth in a country like Colombia.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490]Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women. So stop being so tight was that you pass up on her over 10 american dollars. You would pay that to get a cheeseburger meal in the states and not bat an eye. Your fucking getting a girl to suck you without a condom! Big difference here. In my experience the biggest reason and "not always" but usually the reason womenarent good in bed is because quite frankly "She doesn't want to be there with you". Rather she's not attracted to you or she has other things on her mind and wants to make her money and get the heck out so she can pay that internet bill at home. Regardless I've experience that when money negotiations happen the walls go up. When you start haggling the price, in her head she's frustrated. On the surface she's smiling and engaged in the bidding war, but the more the price goes down, the more her desire goes down. Now she's definately going to take the lower price at some point but now you just became the guy that she has very little if any desire to fuck. She now has that stimulation to just hurry this along. Usually if you get a dead fish prostitute, there us a reason. She's a dead fish to you but a pornstar to someone else that she "Wants to fuck". This just my opinion and everyone has their own experiences so this is subjective. My method is this: have a set price on what I'm willing to spend on a girl. No more than [URL]xxx.xxx[/URL] COP. Rather I'm in a strip club or wherever. I find the girl that makes my eyes big. I look at her body, smile, attitude, aggressiveness. If she comes off like a sexual tiger and has all the things I'm looking for, my mental price point adjust. We speak and it seems like she's ready to fuck me also. We now have a sexual connection. Perfect. She gives a price let's say 250.000 COP. Now here's the problem my price point is 150 k. That's 100.000 more than my price point. Sounds horrible until you think about it. Wait. That's $35. She is in her head thinking please say yes please say yes hahahahhah. My response is usually I would never pay that price but for a girl as attractive as you are, I will but just this once. Bro if she is that hot do not freaking ruin the vibe by trying to negotiate down to 200.000 k. Why?? Because as I said. Its $35 freaking dollars. As soon as you go lower, she exhales just a little bit. That exhale is mist of sexual performance leaving her body. She now is in negotiation mode and for every dollar you take away the less she wants to be there. Yes you can save $15 by getting her down to 200 k and closer to your 150 k price point but it's the mental motivation that you are sacrificing here! Now let me clear one thing up before you crop my post and reply to one sentence just to rebuttle my thought process. This applies only to the chicka you really want to bang. This isn't the concept you use for that 6 in the massage parlor but can be applied there also with similar affect. I am not telling you not to ever negotiate, because some of these women can give you an outrageous price expecting a negotiation but only you can determine rather its outrageous or not. Come to Columbia thinking I'm going to expect to spend xxx / girl. Set you maximum price per girl. If you see one close to your dream girl and you let $35 ruin the mental sexual connection for you two that's your own damn fault. Why are you even overseas without $35 to spare?! There's always that chick that is going to be a dead fish no matter what she's getting paid. That's because "She doesn't want to have sex with you " so it's out of your control. Just hear her price, if it is in you range and you want to bang her, screw the exhausting haggle crap. Save that for the girls you could care less if you bang. We are here in this country for 3 things. Beautiful women, experiences, and memories. If her price is too high and you can't / don't want to spend it. This moment determines a lot. I usually say OK let me get your number and I'll whattsapp you tonight or tomorrow. She's now on my back burner. I keep moving until I find the perfect situation price and beauty with minimal haggle if any. When you say YES to their price without being that guy, it seems like the sexual experience is "usually" better and that's what you are here for. That's what you will remember 5 years from now. Most of all Spoil yourself! Your on vacation!! Fuck $35![/QUOTE]This is exactly how I think. Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort. I do not find a lot of people with this point of view. But I do agree with the one guy who said if she is a dead fish at 200 she will also be a deadfish at 250. Yes, not all girls are rock stars, so you will have bad ones, but if you grind every little penny down with them no one will want to deal with you. That extra 30-40 bucks you give will be the highlight and big deal to her. Makes the world of difference. So if the initial price is a no go just move on. With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men. Not like it was 10 years ago. Depends on the crowd there, buy some food and drinks, spread the joy and that place is amazing. Squabble your extra $5 USA and don't buy drinks and it sucks. If you are going to be cheap go get a budget hotel and bang the 20,000 COP girls at the cheap gross casas. Bring a little extra money, throw it around, buy some drinks, dance, laugh and your money will buy you a lot more than a quick nut.
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2228158]With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men.[/QUOTE]So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490]Just blows my mind when people get stuck up over 30 k COP rather it be for a tip, BBBJ, or just price the girl charges. In my opinion at some point we have to be more realistic about mongering in a different country. Bro. You're about to fuck a beautiful woman! Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? Your out of your country, she's smoking hot, you have a connection with her obviously because your choosing her over the extremely high numbers of available women.[/QUOTE]So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2227146]So now that I am safely home I will write a detailed trip report. This will not be a day by day report but more of a summary of what I learned in terms of mongering and just living in Medellin. Also I was only in Medellin for 4 days and am a complete newbie when it comes to this scene, so some of my information may be incorrect. I also don't speak a lick of spanish.
First let's get the logistics and non mongering issues out of the way. I landed at the airport at 11:30 pm, at this time there were plenty of taxis to take you back to the city. The cost of a taxi in to the city is around 70 mil. My airbnb host said they could send me a driver for the same amount of money, which I accepted. If you don't have COP on you when you arrive there are ATMs right next to the exit of the airport. The drive into Medellin from the airport is 45-50 minutes long. The airbnb I stayed at was the San Peter Apartments in Laureles for $29 a night. They are nice, clean one bedroom apartments. The only issue I had with them was that their wifi was terrible and the blankets they provide are quite small. They are girl friendly with no fee. A girl could even spend the night with you if you wanted at no extra charge. They just need her cedula. I recommend booking through airbnb rather than [URL]book.com[/URL] as it is $10 cheaper and gives you direct contact with the host. Be warned that if you are a light sleeper they have music on at the bar downstairs until late at night, did not bother me though.
Now for money ATMs are the best way to get your money. They have the best exchange rate, much better than converting at an exchange. If you can find an divienda ATM use that as there is no ATM fee. Bancolombia ATMs have a 13200 COP fee. If you must exchange the one I went to was in the Unicentro Mall called Money Max, they had the best rates at 2755 per dollar, just remember to bring your passport.
[/QUOTE]I usually do currency exchange with my bank before I go to Colombia but this time I decided to just bring a like 1 k worth and use atms instead. My bank would give me a rate of about 2800.
I found an ATM at Oviedo mall that gave me 2880, I was happy because I had went to another ATM and I got 2780. Also I didn't get charged any fees when I used BanColombia atms.
Knowing Spanish definitely changes the experience with the girls. When I first went to Medellin I didn't know a lick of Spanish and there were a lot of awkward moments but now since I have been learning its a lot more fun being able to communicate for a better experience.
You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227163]VeraCruz spinner up to a room there and she turned out to have the wrong chromosomes, I didn't ask for my 30 k back, I just said never mind and left, not worth causing a scene over $10 amd maybe getting stabbed or beat up over it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228183]So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.[/QUOTE]Why? Because $10 is 30 eggs, 5# of rice and 5# of beans.
I'm not one to spend any time bartering. If the price offered is outside my range, I'll just offer a no gracias and a smile. If you keep the little head out of the process it's a buyer's market. However, if I'm going for a certain experience, then a difference of 30 k isn't going to deter me. If she sets a time limit, then I'll walk, because I can always get an extra 30 k worth if we're not watching the clock.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2228185]I found an ATM at Oviedo mall that gave me 2880, I was happy because I had went to another ATM and I got 2780. Also I didn't get charged any fees when I used BanColombia atms.[/QUOTE]Ignore if you don't care about a few pesos.
- All ATMs will give out virtually the same exchange rate; virtually same as the Visa rates. If you discount for all the fees (fees that you can recover), you virtually cannot beat the exchange rate anywhere. Last week, I got around 3079. Yesterday, it just went below 3000.
- When you calculate the exchange rate, you need to factor in your bank fees (if any), foreign transaction fees (if any), and the foreign ATM machine charges. As written numerous times, you can get a good ATM (such as Schwab Bank), and they will not charge you any fees and they will also refund the foreign ATM fees, which can add up to a lot.
- I believe the Banco Colombia ATM charges you the 13200 fee. On some ATMs, they ask you if you want to see additional financial details. If you press no, then they don't show the ATM fee.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490]Why would you even consider ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars?[/QUOTE]Because you can get the same experience next block over for 30 K COP less.
But if you're a 2 week millionaire, then ya, go for it.
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2228158]Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort.[/QUOTE]I kind of used to do that. But I've recently been negotiating more.
From my experiences, when you negotiate a fair price, the girls are not "cheap" with their effort. I don't find a difference. But note I'm not into GFE type of stuff as a lot of guys here are. As long as the girls suck and lick on command, then I am happy.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2228267]You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.[/QUOTE]And how would you do that? If he asked, I doubt it would have given the money back. There's no "manager" at the short time motel to force it to give the money back. Any other options, besides the physical one?
This similar type of stuff happens to everyone. I negotiate BBBJ, or some other stuff. In the room, she says no. I leave. I try not to get mad; if my old days, I would get pissed and it would ruin my day. It is a "cost of doing business".
If you negotiate a higher price with extras, it is better to offer the standard rate with a tip, instead of 1 set fee. Then if she reneges in the room, you are only out of the standard rate, instead of everything.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228423]I kind of used to do that. But I've recently been negotiating more.
From my experiences, when you negotiate a fair price, the girls are not "cheap" with their effort. I don't find a difference. But note I'm not into GFE type of stuff as a lot of guys here are. As long as the girls suck and lick on command, then I am happy.[/QUOTE]I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.
To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2228267]You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.[/QUOTE]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?
[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]That's a smart rule.
But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228534]That's a smart rule.
But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.[/QUOTE]Never paying up front is a great rule, and one I always follow.
Just like with Vera Cruz, the big bars like Fiebre, etc in the Santa Fe district of Bogota require that you pay up front as well.
You have to pay for the room upfront, not the girl. If an individual provider insists on upfront payment, my advice is to find another. Anyone who does otherwise should be prepared to take their lumps before moving on. I prefer to just move on and leave the lumps for others.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228534]That's a smart rule.
But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]Respectfully, having mongered in multiple countries (read my reports), I can assure you that rule doesn't apply to every country in the world. Yeah, you can get away with that in Sosua in the Dominican Republic, but good luck trying to get away with that in Tokyo or Sint Maarten or El Salvador.
The most important thing you can do with a WG is negotiate and make sure you know what you are getting before any money exchanges hands. Don't assume you're going to get MSOG. Don't assume you're going to be able to DATY. Don't assume you're going to get BBBJCIM. Ask questions and make sure the terms of the session are clear before you pay. If your prospective WG gets skittish and hesitates to answer your questions, move on to the next WG. She's skittish and hesitant because you're showing you have negotiating skills and she's used to pulling a con job on a client in the bedroom who didn't ask questions about services and whose money was taken and quickly stuffed deep into her purse even before she got naked.
So, there's nothing wrong with paying a WG upfront if you've set the terms of the session and know what you're getting before you're balls deep in the pussy.
Well said! I knew when I misspelled Colombia and people got butt hurt that I was dealing with a different group here.
"Some" in here need to lighten up and just enjoy the fruits. No one has written the ISG Approved procedures on this fun mongering life. It's good we share info but be open minded to different methods and use what works for you. If cheap, discounted, red sticker must sale by date vagina is your thing, have at it. But the day before it wasn't on sale and someone paid regular price. Not everyone uses coupons at the grocery store!! Not every troop ask for a military discount!! Not every guy that wants to bang a smoking hot prostitute in Colombia wants to haggle the prices. It's like a flea market, I get to determine what I'm willing to pay after digging through the crate of items! Its all based on what it's worth to me! When my penis is giving me the thumbs up, I never think to myself what would Gringo45321 do on ISG do? A few of us need to get over yourselves LOL Hahahaha when I'm sex fueled, drunk, and have my prey in sight it's all instinct at that point. And my experiences have been awesome!
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2228158]This is exactly how I think. Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort. I do not find a lot of people with this point of view. But I do agree with the one guy who said if she is a dead fish at 200 she will also be a deadfish at 250. Yes, not all girls are rock stars, so you will have bad ones, but if you grind every little penny down with them no one will want to deal with you. That extra 30-40 bucks you give will be the highlight and big deal to her. Makes the world of difference. So if the initial price is a no go just move on. With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men. Not like it was 10 years ago. Depends on the crowd there, buy some food and drinks, spread the joy and that place is amazing. Squabble your extra $5 USA and don't buy drinks and it sucks. If you are going to be cheap go get a budget hotel and bang the 20,000 COP girls at the cheap gross casas. Bring a little extra money, throw it around, buy some drinks, dance, laugh and your money will buy you a lot more than a quick nut.[/QUOTE]
Ummmm because she's still a human? No matter what your selling.
Or who's selling it, it's natural instinct to become defensive as someone tries to pay you less than what you value it at. In this case we are talking about her body, her mouth, her vagina. You can't see how this could affect her attitude?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228183]So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.[/QUOTE]
I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.
I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.
Mr Enternational,
I can honestly say you could be right! You've had a lot more experience than I have doing this. I wouldn't even attempt to rebuttal because frankly I don't know it as fact. I must have a mindset. When you walk in a casa or massage parlor do you negotiate the price on the card or that the manager gives? When you walk into the love motel do you attempt to negotiate an on the hour rate? Most likely not but I bet if you really tried you could with "some" of them. You most likely don't and pick your battles. The average person will get their discount with the actual girl herself they will bargain her down or tight was with a tip. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But that is an option just like the other places you probably chose not to attempt to discount. I've had girls that I haggled with in San Jose that literally went from kissing and touching all over me in public until negotiations began as soon as I dropped the price they agreed but I noticed an almost immediate change in their attitude. Almost a let down vibe glazed over their face. I asked her if she's OK, and she said 1 word. Cheap and cut her eyes. I passed on the session because the vibe was gone over $20. When she was happy earlier thinking the price was set at her number she couldn't keep her hands off of me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228472]I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.
To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228423]- All ATMs will give out virtually the same exchange rate; virtually same as the Visa rates. If you discount for all the fees (fees that you can recover), you virtually cannot beat the exchange rate anywhere. Last week, I got around 3079. Yesterday, it just went below 3000.[/QUOTE]Amazing that this has to be repeated again and again, time after time. ATMs are by far the best way to get local cash almost ANYWHERE in the world. Still someone insists travelling with cash and feeding exchange booths.
1) The exchange rate is usually better than that one can get at exchange booths: that is, the interbank daily rate + 1. 25%, plus fixed fees that one still can avoid using the appropriate card and the appropriate ATM. Only in few places of the world (namely Batam in my case) I found exchange booths offering better rates, probably because they need USD for "supporting local trade".
2) Getting some cash from ATMs, day by day, is safer than travelling with $2 k cash.
I just wish to add a couple of remarks to what you wrote above:
1) The most widely debit card circuit is Maestro probably, and it's MasterCard, not VISA. Same exchange rate anyway, so this remark has null impact.
2) NEVER use a credit card to get cash from ATMs. Some cards are double-function. One has to know that, and be smart to avoid that the credit function is automatically selected by the system (oh yes. Banks are smart). Always select the DEBIT function, e. G. Maestro (AHORROS in Colombia ATMs). If you use the credit function, on top of all other charges there is the +4% credit fee.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490] ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? [/QUOTE]It's not simply $10.10. It is $10.10 2-3 times a day per chica, then every once in a while at a restaurant and more frequently with taxis. Oh wait, I almost forgot, someone on here said "no one has ever been ripped of by a taxi!" My bad! Jajajaja If it was $10.10 one time per trip, 99% would not mention it.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=NYCassman;2228630]I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.
I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.[/QUOTE]Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.
I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.
You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.
[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]Lots of places in MED want the money 1st like strip clubs. I always pay the VeraCruz girls in advance, it's only $10 anyway. Then I hint about a tip if the secession goes well. Works for me.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2228786]Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.
I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.
You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.[/QUOTE]I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?
Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.
I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.
I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.
You are correct on all points. I don't respond to "how much cash should I bring" posts any more because after all the discussions about this it's just guys being stubborn. Even if the ATM exchange rates were not competitive. And they are competitive. The convenience and risk of loss you avoid by not traveling will lots of cash make it worthwhile.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2228697]Amazing that this has to be repeated again and again, time after time. ATMs are by far the best way to get local cash almost ANYWHERE in the world. Still someone insists travelling with cash and feeding exchange booths.
1) The exchange rate is usually better than that one can get at exchange booths: that is, the interbank daily rate + 1. 25%, plus fixed fees that one still can avoid using the appropriate card and the appropriate ATM. Only in few places of the world (namely Batam in my case) I found exchange booths offering better rates, probably because they need USD for "supporting local trade".[/QUOTE]
Planning a trip soon. Wanted intel on these two girls planning to see them on next trip. If you don't want to post publicly, please pm me. Will post a detailed report after the trip.
This was a great report.
Can people visit the M1 who do not have a room booked on property? If so, any rules prohibiting poaching the talent and taking them back to your own apartment or room?
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2225553]I returned to the Mansion in late August 2018 for the first one-week leg of my two-week trip to Colombia (see the "General Info" section for Colombia for an overview of my trip) due to the quality of my previous experiences at the Mansion. I nonetheless decided to do things differently this time. M1 did not have one room available for all of my desired dates, so I decided to stay in M2, which did have one room available for all of my desired dates. While the "frat house" atmosphere of M1 had been a key part of the Mansion's appeal for me, I decided to make a virtue of out of necessity and take advantage of the greater privacy and quietness of M2 for a higher proportion of Facebook citas, with the Mansion's on-site talent as a backup or secondary source..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2228872]Lots of places in MED want the money 1st like strip clubs. I always pay the VeraCruz girls in advance, it's only $10 anyway. Then I hint about a tip if the secession goes well. Works for me.[/QUOTE]Yup, and also all the girls who work from their apartments take the money up front and provide great service, 2 pops an hour never had an issue. The only ones I would never trust to pay up front is the Parque Lleras girls.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2227087]I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.[/QUOTE]I mess around with 2 or 3 a trip. 200 to 350 USD.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2228547]You have to pay for the room upfront, not the girl. If an individual provider insists on upfront payment, my advice is to find another. Anyone who does otherwise should be prepared to take their lumps before moving on.[/QUOTE]Is that the standard? Several of the girls asked for prepayment. A few didn't. I never negotiated; I just assumed that was the standard. Ya, if you paid afterwards, I wouldn't have been scammed by that one girl who reneged.
There wasn't that many scammers at Vera Cruz. It seems there's more in Bogota's Santa Fe. By scammers I mean reneging on what was negotiated.
It seems the standard is that the customer pays for the short time room. But there's differences in cleanliness, time and price. Might have been scammed for a few pesos couple of times.
I kind of treated the 40 K COP (30 K + 10 K) as a 30 minute ladydrink / lapdance interview. If I like, then I negotiated for more.
[QUOTE=NYCassman;2228905]I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?
Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.
I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.
I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.[/QUOTE]Just contact the AirBnB owners and ask if it is guest friendly, nothing to lose. Don't say you want to party just say you have friends in the city and want to make sure you won't get charged for visits. But honestly, most owners know exactly what a group of men are doing there so they would have to be assholes not to warn you about a no chica policy before taking your money.
The prepagos website in itself can be a hit or miss, but its far from the only website. There's a few websites. There's a Colombian review site that reviews girls from ads on websites that has worked great for me but I think ill get in trouble if I post it here. PM me if you can. There are some girls here who don't really know the gringo game and only charge 100 k for a nice GFE an BBBJ. Make sure not to inform them how cheap they are LOL, these girls will rarely go any more than 150, you can even get a nice 3 some for 120 k.
Also I noticed a huge difference in Parque Lleras from a year ago til now, Last year they were charging 150 k. I went there last weekend just to see what its like and it seems all the half decent up to the top notch hoes are going straight to Gustos and skipping the park, you can see all the beautiful ones walking past everybody and straight into Gustos where they can charge $400 USD to a drunk gringo. Good for them, but it was hilarious when a run down hoe approached me and I said wsup and she immediately said 300 k an hour, I laughed in her face and took a cab to Fase 2 and had a beautiful girl ride me like a rabbit for 10 minutes till I bust and then went home. The F2 girls fuck like pros, at 190 k its not a bad last resort. If you don't mind paying 300 k then join Vanes whatsapp group. I took one from there and damn she was fine. But there's so many gringos on there talking about how cheap 300 k is that the prices will definitely be going up soon.
If you're in a group and you all speak Spanish, then you should definitely hit up the casas together and collect whatsapp numbers. A lot more affordable. Don't forget facebook, easiest way to setup girls before you even get there and the most likely to give GFE and BBBJ other than the apartment girls. Don't ever ask them the price first, just get into what good time you want to have with them. Eventually they will ask how much you are giving them and then you name your price. Or if they try to tell you a high price just say you never pay more than 150. It sometimes works. If they refuse to budge on a high price then say fuck it and pay it if she's worth it, the goal here is to not make it seem like you'll just say yes to anything and lets them know they're not dealing with a desperate guy. But in the end just lighten it all up with a joke and the vibe fixes instantly.
If you're not scared to get a little grimy then you can hit up el centro streets specifically on a Saturday afternoon, you can find something pretty nice for $10-$30 in the midst of some nastiness.
Just don't put all your hopes in certain girls, you may think your going to see this or that girl and when you get here you end up doing a whole different thing. But you will enjoy regardless, its a huge city full of hoes, and to be honest, although it can be fun to just hang out there, I'm convinced Parque Lleras is the worst place to start. If Parque Lleras is your only plan then I can't knock that but you should know you are missing out on a lot.
But if you like to walk around and just see beautiful women, Poblado malls are pretty impressive, also the train, Centro surprises me sometimes, fuck man what am I saying this whole city is full of beautiful women.
[QUOTE=NYCassman;2228905]I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?
Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.
I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.
I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.[/QUOTE]Yes, Parque Lleras is central to bars, clubs and restaurants. The casas are mostly located in El Centro.
Depends on which prepagos website. There's a lot of bait and switch with the ad sites.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2228955]This was a great report.
Can people visit the M1 who do not have a room booked on property? If so, any rules prohibiting poaching the talent and taking them back to your own apartment or room?[/QUOTE]More information can be found in the Medellin Mansion thread below. Sometimes, if they accept you, they will let you pay 50 k to enter and go to the bar. There's no rule against taking a girl back to your place, since that's your only option if you're not booked there. Who wants to pay a 50 k cover charge if the girls aren't available?
If you just show up at the door, they won't let you in.
[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2228985]I mess around with 2 or 3 a trip. 200 to 350 USD.[/QUOTE]I added the one you listed in the Baranquilla thread to my Instagram. I am a leg man so I think she is very hot.
Do you slow play it or do you make an offer immediately? There could be difference in strategy between us since because of our age difference (30's vs late 60's). I really do not want to go to a night club with a chica I don't know. So do think you offering $200 would get their attention or even $150 so that they would at least counter offer. I would probably want to meet in a short-term hotel.
[QUOTE=HolyTrinity;2229006]If you don't mind paying 300 k then join Vanes whatsapp group. I took one from there and damn she was fine. But there's so many gringos on there talking about how cheap 300 k is that the prices will definitely be going up soon.
[/QUOTE]Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2229004]Is that the standard? Several of the girls asked for prepayment. A few didn't. I never negotiated; I just assumed that was the standard. Ya, if you paid afterwards, I wouldn't have been scammed by that one girl who reneged.
There wasn't that many scammers at Vera Cruz. It seems there's more in Bogota's Santa Fe. By scammers I mean reneging on what was negotiated.
It seems the standard is that the customer pays for the short time room. But there's differences in cleanliness, time and price. Might have been scammed for a few pesos couple of times.
I kind of treated the 40 K COP (30 K + 10 K) as a 30 minute ladydrink / lapdance interview. If I like, then I negotiated for more.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what another fellow a few days ago posted about. The hunt. Just like taking a car out for a spin before you buy it. I always felt that even if the girl turns out to be a dud then you still got to spend a little time with a beautiful girl while she is naked. The goldmine is hit when she turns into a sweetheart, and then you can take it from there anyway you like.
[QUOTE=HolyTrinity;2229006]
If Parque Lleras is your only plan then I can't knock that but you should know you are missing out on a lot.
But if you like to walk around and just see beautiful women, Poblado malls are pretty impressive, also the train, Centro surprises me sometimes, fuck man what am I saying this whole city is full of beautiful women.[/QUOTE]Great response bro. Here's my question to you. When I come to Medellin I normally spend a lot of my party time in Parque Llares. I go to Gustos and the main busy bars down there then end the night at Phase II if it's a Saturday. I always fear that if it Saturday night and I'm not at LLares, I'm missing out trying hit or miss places. Probably because on here we rarely see people talk about places outside of Llaress. Of course you here a few mentions of Poblado or Laureless, but because it's so rare it almost comes across as subpar to LLares. Can anyone tell me a bar area that I could uber to at say 10 pm on a Saturday that is equally as busy or fun as LLares. I don't want a few hole in the wall local bars. I'm talking. Bars next door to other packed bars and dance clubs like the LLares vibe has? Street walkers outside of the bars waiting for attention etc etc. ? I need like specifics streets. I want to be at LLares and the say to my friend I know a place similar to this place with different people. I'll call an uber, we are going to." Any suggestions. We are looking for hookers to be available if the girls in the bars are not acting right. Not just college girls out drinking.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2229406]Great response bro. Here's my question to you. When I come to Medellin I normally spend a lot of my party time in Parque Llares. I go to Gustos and the main busy bars down there then end the night at Phase II if it's a Saturday. I always fear that if it Saturday night and I'm not at LLares, I'm missing out trying hit or miss places. Probably because on here we rarely see people talk about places outside of Llaress. Of course you here a few mentions of Poblado or Laureless, but because it's so rare it almost comes across as subpar to LLares. Can anyone tell me a bar area that I could uber to at say 10 pm on a Saturday that is equally as busy or fun as LLares. I don't want a few hole in the wall local bars. I'm talking. Bars next door to other packed bars and dance clubs like the LLares vibe has? Street walkers outside of the bars waiting for attention etc etc. ? I need like specifics streets. I want to be at LLares and the say to my friend I know a place similar to this place with different people. I'll call an uber, we are going to." Any suggestions. We are looking for hookers to be available if the girls in the bars are not acting right. Not just college girls out drinking.[/QUOTE]There's another place, sort of. Parque Lleras has all the hookers hanging around, because that's where all the gringos are. All of the other places have plenty of hookers on a Saturday night, except most of them are out partying with friends and family. Parque Lleras is too expensive when they are buying their own drinks.
Carrera 70 in Laureles is the best hope outside of Parque Lleras. It's easy to navigate. All the clubs are on Carrera 70 between the Estadio and UPB. Just tell the Uber "La setenta cerca del Estadio. " There are plenty of clubs and there are usually some girls working the street. A lot of Venezuelans hang out in the area.
The girls there are more subtle than in Lleras, which makes them harder to spot. There are several love motels in the area.
If you're feeling more adventurous, you can try Bello. I don't know the streets, but you should be able to find it on the map. There's a large group of prepagos who party there all the time.
Warning: Nighttime in Bello you're completely outside the gringo zone. I would not advise taking a stroll looking for streetwalkers. Stick to the clubs.
I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!
Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA).
You can check my review on Cali and see what I went through over there before I found a reputable contact. Much of the same first happened here in Medellin with the first driver / guide I met. I met him through the apartment company (same company as in Cali too), as they used him as transportation from the airport. Not only was he more expensive, he was not responsive or responsible. And his intel was garbage. The guy's name is Andre and he is a "kid guide". If you want to stay away from him, PM and I'll give you more details. I not only needed help with chicas, I needed help with my dj controller which was damaged during the flight! It was making a very annoying screeching noise through my speakers and it was killing me. What the hell was I going to do? Even if I could find a place to help, how was I going to get there? This had me looking.
So I went through the guide section of WorldTraveler69's map / list looking for help and started texting it down at random. You know what they say, when the student is ready the master will appear. William, (the best damn guide in Medellin) was the first to text me back!
I explained my predicament and he assured me he could help. When we met at the arranged time, he was inviting, friendly, confident, and with a good, clean, reliable vehicle. I let him know how I found him and that, yes chicas were on the agenda, but there are more pressing concerns at the moment. Willi hadn't encountered anything like this before and saw it as a challenge! Such an incredible wealth of knowledge about this city (and flora / fauna / Colombia in general, it's encyclopedic). He took me to a repair shop, and stayed with me the entire afternoon until the repair was completed (and yes it was a Repair, not a Replace). I had a little bucket list of mine for Medellin, he asked me about it and chuckled. I didn't know at the time, but every one of those was going to be accomplished before I left, thanks to Willi.
Willi knows Medellin like the back of his hand and he customizes every experience for your specific personal needs. He really reads his customers and gives them the best personal experience for them. He stays with you and makes sure you stay safe.
Don't want to just tour a coffee farm but was more interested in buying one? Have medical issues that you don't want to go into debt for? You wouldn't be Willi's first customer on either count. If you want to go fishing but aren't particularly athletic, no problem, he's going to money you up. Want to go birding into a corner of the country with river trails that take you across slippery rocks, knotted tree roots, and steep inclines, well out of reach of any other tour company and only where professional photographers would dare venture? He's your man. He's in his 50's and with a full pack he's still outpacing me! Oh BTW, he brought a bag so he could pick up other people's pollution and trash because he believes in leaving a place better than you found it. In addition to chicas and airport transfers, we went on a campfire hike and a city tour / real estate excursion. I used him for all of it, at this point I consider him a friend and I cannot recommend him enough.
Now on to the chicas.
The first place I went to was one of Willi's recommendations, a place called "Energy". Without him I would have never found it. It is beyond discreet, there's no signage. In a somewhat residential area, it looks like a regular building with a townhouse garage. Willi knows everyone there of course, and we parked right in the garage haha!
The girl I chose was Natalia, short, dark hair, sweet face / smile, she's all natural, in great shape, incredible warm personality / attitude, wonderful sense of humor, . In fact we enjoyed eachother so much we ended up seeing eachother every weekend I was there until I left, a total of 4 times. And we still talk.
The second place we went to was Lutron, and we went there twice on different occasions. There isn't much I am going to say about the place that hasn't been mentioned before. I saw Nicole and Celeste. They are both absolute stunners, the girls at that place are like models. The sex is absolutely great. Each girl does her own thing in her own way. I don't think its a ymmv, as much as it is that each experience is going to be its own thing. But the place has an odd sterility and coldness about it. Nobody is particularly friendly or warm over there, not even the staff. I love the facilities and the grounds through, very well built and located. If you want more details, just ask or PM.
Ok I'm going to to stop now because if I don't I am going to spiral into depression. I broke up with that girl I met in Cali a few days ago. It wasn't working out. I am a free man again, but I'm free in the empty wasteland of the united states. I hate the united states SO much. United flight 1031 is officially dubbed "the trail of tears".
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2229766]I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!
Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA).
You can check my review on Cali and see what I went through over there before I found a reputable contact. Much of the same first happened here in Medellin with the first driver / guide I met. I met him through the apartment company (same company as in Cali too), as they used him as transportation from the airport. Not only was he more expensive, he was not responsive or responsible. And his intel was garbage..[/QUOTE]Is this the guy that helped you?
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d6513892-Reviews-Willi_s_Best_Guide_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html[/URL]
He has good reviews for the normal touristy stuff but I would be interested in knowing how else he helped you with chicks besides taking you to two of the most well know casas in Medellin?
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2229766]William, (the best damn guide in Medellin) was the first to text me back![/QUOTE]The big question is what did he charge for his services?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2229804]The big question is what did he charge for his services?[/QUOTE]Also, what surcharges if any were charged for drinks & girls at these casas? What notoriously happens in Tijuana and other places is the taxi or guide will take his client to casas, stripclubs, hotels etc, and then go in and request his kickback for bringing the client. The business will gladly pay it because they just charge the client extra for all goods & services.
This may not have happened in this case because the guide seems to have been paid well. However I wouldn't be surprised if any guide decided to double dip a little.
That trail of tears flite suks ass. I feel your pain everyday for many years now.
Me and many other guys on here would have given you that information for free. You would have to RTFF but it wouldn't take you long to know all about the places you visited and many more. No worries, we should all do what works for us.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2229766]I just got back last week from a month in Medellin, wow what an adventure. And for as long as I was there, I still didn't do everything the city has to offer!
Finally got caught up on work here at home, so lets get into the report, starting with the guides. I highly recommend you do this. Your trip will not be the same without one. Ever since Rio, its the only way I'll roll. (and I now that I know better, I wish I did this in Buenos Aires. Go to that forum to witness my struggles and shenanigans HAHA)..[/QUOTE]
The real question is why are guys going to Vane? Makes no sense with the wealth of information available in this site to do so. How many times has it be written that all you need is to build Facebook contacts. When I go I never spend over 200 k for a couple of pops. And yes the session is very intimate. Some girls that know me actually ask me for TLN and for that I pay 300 K and as many pops I can muster. Why are guys paying someone to show them Energy or Loutron? Is it a language barrier? These are the same girls that have told me how desperate gringos pay them 300 k at the Mandion The info is available in the website but I guess people don't want to read and accept it. For the record, I am 62 years old and balding, I could lose a few pounds. I do speak Spanish fluently
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2229235]Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230048]
The real question is why are guys going to Vane? Makes no sense with the wealth of information available in this site to do so. How many times has it be written that all you need is to build Facebook contacts.
.[/QUOTE]It really isn't as easy as all that. It would be the difference between me giving a guy my facebook contacts and saying here you go.
Most likely there will be quite a few no shows or no response all.
Or me calling the girls up that I know and saying. Come on over I have a friend I want you to meet.
Then there would be very few no shows if any at all.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2229235]Wow! Prices in Vane's group have gone up in the last 4 weeks. It was 250 k the last two weeks in August and it was the price Vane posted in her thread. Vane gets 50 k of that price so I thought it was comparable to a Facebook chica asking 200 k and using Vane was far more efficient for me. Although it must be said that I had to settle for second and third choices at 250 k. I never asked if first choices were available for more.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know of a situation where posting mongering information on the Internet caused prices to decrease?
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230048] I do speak Spanish fluently
.[/QUOTE]Bingo. That's the game changer right there.
Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000. Both places had rooms available too. La Isla was on a hilltop with a lot of restaurants outside. If you like silicon and arse implants this is the place for you. Colombian money seems more expensive than it is really with all the zero's. The exchange office at the airport had terrible rates, but to use a card and withdraw money from ATM's. Girls in Medellin don't seem to use WeChat, they all connect using WhatsApp and Facebook. I subscribed to Colombian Cupid for a month on the premium service, but was a lot of time wasted filtering messages. Medellin is a nice high altitude city with hot ladies, but learn some Spanish before you go there to get maximum enjoyment from it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228181]So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.[/QUOTE]Not under contract but an invite. They do get the most money there because it's mainly Americans and we pay more versus local spots. So when they get excited to come there to make good money (for their standard) and cheap for ours those last 5-10 bucks people try to negotiate down is killing the deal for them. It is safer and nicer there but in the end it is a major convenience for us so the amount you pay is worth it versus trying luck at another establishment or in the street. To each their own.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2229781]Is this the guy that helped you?
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297478-d6513892-Reviews-Willi_s_Best_Guide_Medellin-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html[/URL]
He has good reviews for the normal touristy stuff but I would be interested in knowing how else he helped you with chicks besides taking you to two of the most well know casas in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2229804]The big question is what did he charge for his services?[/QUOTE]$45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2229821]Also, what surcharges if any were charged for drinks & girls at these casas? What notoriously happens in Tijuana and other places is the taxi or guide will take his client to casas, stripclubs, hotels etc, and then go in and request his kickback for bringing the client. The business will gladly pay it because they just charge the client extra for all goods & services.
This may not have happened in this case because the guide seems to have been paid well. However I wouldn't be surprised if any guide decided to double dip a little.[/QUOTE]None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.
I agree with you.
I use whatsapp and fb messenger communicating with the girls quite a bit before meeting. However, still mongers should be aware what prices can be had for services. Even the prices I pay are way higher than what a colombian would pay.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2230317]Bingo. That's the game changer right there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228181]So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.[/QUOTE]I believe he meant morale was low.
I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2230317]Bingo. That's the game changer right there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsianRider;2230359]Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time. Also thanks for mentioning the PE Museum now I want to check it out. I'll be there in 10 days or so splitting my time between the mansion and a nice condo near Parque Lleras. Thanks for the concise FR.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2230505]I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]I think some of the staff speak English but most the girls don't I'd guess.
45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230384]Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.
$45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.
None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226423]If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas.[/QUOTE]Yeah, man. I checked these out last night and see what you mean. Tons of talent. Going to post a mini-report momentarily.
I had a chance to check out these two places last night (Sat). Even though I live in Medellin, I just discovered ISG so they were somehow unknown to me. Bigs up to all who have posted about them previously.
I started at Maracaibo, and I was impressed with the talent, although it was a little too early, and the ladies were still coming in. I had a drink but the grass is always greener, especially when it's two doors away, so I left to check out Barra Ejecutiva. Again, it was early, around 7:30 (even though I'm younger, that tends to be more my style unless I'm with friends). Nonetheless, there was a ton of talent on display and it kept pouring in. I can't imagine there's not at least an 8 there no matter what your personal scale is. I saw plenty. My plan was to stick around for awhile and drink, but after a couple I was persuaded to session with a stacked chica for 70 K plus 15 K for the room. That seems to be about the going rate. Chica had great energy and agreed to let me fuck her tits without a condom and finish there for an unspecified tip. I had so much fun I splurged for an extra 30 minutes and eventually blasted all over her tits, neck, and hair (oops). She wanted her tip but I was like, no, the extra 30 minutes (of which we used like 10) is the tip, and she accepted that with aplomb.
Ah, she might not be the brightest bulb in the book, because she mistook me for a Colombiano when she first sat down, which is perhaps the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me.
My only complaint is one that I've read on this forum before: the room at Barra Ejecutiva was terribly hot. Install AC in one room and charge and extra 15 K for it. Watch how popular it becomes and go from there. Shit.
(There was no cover at either of these places.).
I'll certainly return often.
I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.
Luna lunera. Go only after 9 pm, otherwise it will only be a waste of time.
Barra ejevtivo.
Lots of implants. Only a few will be natural. 9 mil for water, 10 mil for beer. The locals don't even tip the dancers. Foreigners tip 2 mil when dancers come by.
La Isla.
High end place. Again lots of implants, rare to find naturals. Even one tips the dancers 2 mil. Dances are really short. Atmosphere is good and isn't too crowded. The staff appears very professional.
If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2230505]I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230654]45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2230702]I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.[/QUOTE]I understand when something gets played out, and becomes more of a fraud than anything else (thailand, netherlands) but all the talent is in the commercialized / legalized areas. Its a balance. I've learned this the hard way (see my posts in Buenos Aires forum). If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state. This is clearly witnessed in the difference of quality to be found between Cali and medellin. Medellin girls blow Cali out of the water, and the few stunners in Cali usually came from medellin for a reason. Otherwise the real talent goes running to medellin by any means necessary, her gifts / value are wasted in the small towns. HER availability in the first place is courtesy of legalization and her price is wonderful only by dint of the exchange rate.
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230767]If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.
The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2229629]Some of you who are Soi 6 regulars will know this girl Tukta. I must have bonked her at least thrice when she used to work at Soi 6. Butterfly Bar if I remember right. I have not seen her in 2 years and it has been over a year that I visited Pattaya. And now she magically pops up at. Hold your breath. Sapphire. Now that is some serious upgrade. [/QUOTE]But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.
Here yee Here yee! Why is there so much disagreement on the board, LOL. I love this place. Love it so much, I actually rented 3 rooms, 3 different locations. Won't complain about prices call most of the board are pro's and get girls at the cheapest rates. So in this report I will allow you to see what a $18/ day room looks like, what a $30/ day room looks like, and what a $58/ day room looks like. The girls are plenty, but I have my own stable, and I like the centro girls. Just my own liking. I am actually seeing many skinny girls on this trip, as I come to find out many guys are looking for spinners and petite girls. I'm a ass man myself. But as a good monger I switched it up just to see what the rave was about all the skinny girls? I am seeing at least 3 girls daily, plus my girlfriend, and one of her cousins. I did eat my Wheaties and drank my Gatorade. I will be posting a few pics on my next few posts. If you feel you're paying too much, you have 2 choices. 1. Find a cheaper date. 2. Bring more coins on the next trip! Complaining about cost in Colombia tells everyone on the board a whole lot. I'm not saying be a fool. I am saying, put in the ground work and you will lower your costs significantly! Pollonegro is out!
[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230767]Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation..[/QUOTE]You're both right. Most Colombians would be thrilled with 45 k per hour. At that rate, he only needs to work 25-30 hours per week to live well, after paying gas and maintenance. However, if you're looking for someone who can handle everything you described and you're comfortable with the price, it's a good deal.
As for the 8+ women only being found at the top venues, you missed completely. If you want to pay the highest price, usually for the lowest service, go to the hottest girls at the top sites. If you would rather get girls just as hot, with better service at a much lower price, you have to look elsewhere. Head up into the hills some time. Take a walk through the estrato 2 neighborhoods. You'll find plenty of 8, 9 and 10 girls who aren't playing the gringo game. They aren't going to be point and click, but if you can handle a conversation, there are plenty of opportunities.
I'm a little less confused now, thanks. I'm not curious enough to visit but my remaining confusion is about the women knowing why you are there being. Isn't that true of any other venue like strip clubs, casas, and Lleras bars. I think the part about it being a gringo spot is the attraction for some. As best I can tell, that is what sets it apart. It's just me but I doubt I will ever understand the value proposition. We all have to find our happy places.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230746]If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2230777]I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.
The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.
But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out.[/QUOTE]I've seen it again and again, the hotter Centro casa girls graduating to places like Energy or Loutron. Two Venezuelan friends I've known for a year recently moved from a Centro strip club to Fase Dos. Can be hard to bring yourself to pay three times as much for the same girl that may not look quite as good as the life takes it's toll.
Have also seen the same in San Jose, Costa Rica with the move from the MPs to the Del Rey.
Same girl, triple the price though in this case some go back and forth daily.
Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. End of story. I have my Colombian cellphone registered to my Colombian girlfriend's name, I've had too many phones blocked over the last 8 months. So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. I know the cell phone business in Colombia up, down, round, & inside out. Have deep pockets & patience if you want to enter that game. Imagine, if unauthorized persons in Colombia bought a shipment of cellphones and just turned them on, it would counter set the cellphone market and make police job incredibly hard. In an effort to stop this from happening, if you do not register the phone in 30 days, the cellphone companies block the entire phone. Another hurdle, if you bring a phone into Colombia from somewhere else, in order to register it, you will need a factura. Good luck getting one for under $80 mil pesos. The alternative to this is going into an official Tigo, Claro, Movilstar office & buy a phone directly from them, then they know the phone is good, it will be registered right then and there and the Colombian government will have fleeced you just like they do the Colombians. Do I know anything about phones in Colombia? Huh, you can bet your bottom dollar I do. Plus when you register the phone officially, you leave the office & 4 hours later your phone may or may not work, especially if it came from outside of Colombia. What do I do? I bring a different unlocked phone with the box everytime I come to Colombia, & before I leave, I sell the phone for $300-$400 mil pesos. Just make sure you have a Samsung or Old iphone, Colombians will buy them hands down. Pollo negro is out!
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2230827]Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me..
...So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. [/QUOTE]That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?
BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2230854]That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?
BTW; its possible to change your IMEI, its just takes a little work. I'm considering doing this due to US taking IMEI for no apparent reason. Who wants government stalkers.[/QUOTE]Number but I have ran into someone in Centro who does & they changed the IEMI number on my phone & it now works without any problem. Now if I can pay him to sell me the program or teach me how he did it! Pollo negro is out!
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2230854]That was an odd reason to block the the whole IMEI and quite unheard of in other places. They should just make registration mandatory when selling sim card like anywhere else. So my cellphone will be useless in Colombia, once I leave the country and return unregistered after 30 days and I can't registered it online. What if you buy from another company? You are also speaking of Claro, I imagine it is another cell company. Is that a work around for blocked phones or just easier to keep online?[/QUOTE]In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230746]If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.[/QUOTE]Was at the Mansion in August. Pricing varied from 180 to 250 COP or more, the lamer the gringo the more the girl makes. And the gringo needs to be entirely clear what he wants before walking into the bedroom with her or could end up disappointed. First visit to the Mansion since last year. The policia appeared on a number of occasions while there (a new development). Two types of cops, the neighborhood beat types out to shoot the shit and check out the babes and collect there tu sabes, and the other type of police all business looking for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls. People from the adj buildings call police occasionally to report suspicious activity. All it takes is one slip up for the whole place to come crashing down, along with everyone in it. The local office workers do not like the Mansion there.
Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?
I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.
My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2230827]Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. ...[/QUOTE]I am not disputing that everything you write has happened to you, but it is not correct. Earlier this year, I gave a cellphone I bought on ebay to a friend and she registered it. I gave her a picture of the receipt from ebay, but I don't know if she needed it. The only identification on the receipt was the manufacturer and model. I registered my cellphone and all I needed was a copy of my passport.
I think the reason for requiring registration is to curtail the thief of cellphones. Once a phone has been reported stolen, it can't be registered by another person.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2230877]In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.[/QUOTE]In June of 17 my roommate broke her phone and Movistar told her repair would take 2 weeks. Went with her to Jumbo, picked up a new SIM, which was registered in her name, took it back to the apartment and stuck it in my old Motorola GSM phone. Worked fine. In August I broke my S7 edge. Went back to Jumbo, bought a new Claro SIM, to replace the Movistar SIM she had bought, took it home and stuck it in the Motorola and it worked no problem. Two weeks later I bought a Huawei Mate 9, which has 2 SIM slots. Put my old T Mobile SIM in one and my Claro SIM in the other. It continued to work fine on either SIM until I left at the end of March this year. The Motorola sat until February when a chica with a broken phone took it and put her Tigo SIM in it. It was still working 6 weeks later.
I confess, I don't know anything about cellphones in Colombia. I just know what worked for me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2230777]I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.
The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.
But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.[/QUOTE]I've fucked her before when she worked at Route 69 bar on soi 6.
One of the few Thai girls that made much of an effort in bed. Pretty face, big fake tits, decent ass but had stretch marks on her stomach.
After I'd come she said 'you forgot to fuck my ass' LOL.
I have so much to write about but so little time. In a nutshell:
Came here for 5 days. Banged 5 chicks. Due to a budget and unforeseen costs I had to limit the amount of leches I had. 2 Facebook chicks and 3 casa girls. I did several rounds on Veracruz but none really caught my eyes and honestly most looked down right dirty (just my opinion! Facebook girl #1 was a 6 but great attitude. Paid 80 k with video. Facebook #2 paid 100 k with video. Was easily a 9. Surprised she had a kid. Easily hottest mom I ever encountered, could never tell she had a baby and was relatively tight. First ever GF experience I've had. Definitely made me believe she was into me (probably was the money though). Casa girls was 4-8's. 8's seemed very unenthusiastic so I went with 3 7's that seemed much more into me. Video tip of 20 and 30 k. Not really my style but hey when in Rome.
Dishonorable mention: Had a Facebook chica (I think) come over that tried to pass for the girl on her page. Somehow they looked similar yet the girl in the pics was a 8 and the actual girl was a 1. I should've sent her back when she got out the taxi but I was caught so off guard and needed some time to man up LOL. Signed her in and had to pay a surprising 80 k (didn't find out until later). Got to the elevator and told her she was not the same chick. She insisted she was but I decided to pass. Gave 10 pesos and told her to go home. She had a deep voice. I wouldn't be surprised she was a he.
Back to the hotel. I would not recommend hotel San Fernando plaza in El Poblado. To my point above, they charge 89 k for any additional person not registered when you check in. That was more than my room alone!
[QUOTE=Cheerfull;2231024]The local office workers do not like the Mansion there.[/QUOTE]They are just jealous.
To each, his own, but I know Pattaya and I prefer Medellin (and Bogota, too) much more than Pattaya. I prefer Latinas anyway, but if you say you're getting bored, why no try something new? The scene in Medellin is amazing: the women are much more sensuous in my experience, much more varied as far as looks, and it's a world-class city to boot. You should have no problem finding 8+ girls no matter what your personal scale is, and Tinder is only the (most expensive, least effective) tip of the iceberg here.
[QUOTE=Argo1990;2231040]Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?
I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.
My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Argo1990;2231040]Playing with the idea of coming to Medellin, Bogota or my usual destination Pattaya in December. Never been to Colombia before but I decided to tinder plus into the 2 stated cities and damn those girls look fine. My question is: would you recommend a solo trip to one of those cities for 2 weeks or should I stick with Pattaya?
I wouldn't mind Pattaya honestly but I am slowly getting bored of Asian girls and want to try something new.
My absolute priority would be to go for young 8+ kinda girls. Think that is a realistic expectation?[/QUOTE]Personally, I prefer Latinas over Asians in looks. If I was blind-folded, performance in bed from the Colombianas and the Asians is similar. There are good and not-so-good in both cultures. There are plenty of young ladies available in Colombia. An 8+ can only be determined by your own eyes.
For me, if everything in the two places was equal, I would look at travel time. If you decide on Colombia, I suggest the first week in Medellin and the second in Bogota.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2231113]I am not disputing that everything you write has happened to you, but it is not correct. Earlier this year, I gave a cellphone I bought on ebay to a friend and she registered it. I gave her a picture of the receipt from ebay, but I don't know if she needed it. The only identification on the receipt was the manufacturer and model. I registered my cellphone and all I needed was a copy of my passport.
I think the reason for requiring registration is to curtail the thief of cellphones. Once a phone has been reported stolen, it can't be registered by another person.[/QUOTE]Is a factura, it shows proof of purchase. So if you try to register one without that receipt / factura. Good luck. But do you know how many phones I have without a receipt. . sometimes it just pays for me to not post. Without your receipt / factura, it will be impossible to register a outside the country phone. Without a cédula, forget registering the phone at all! Pollo negro is out!
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2230877]In Aug-17, I bought a Claro chip in Bogota from a small store in Chapinero for 10 k pesos. I did not have to register the chip, or show any ID whatsoever. I used that same chip on my second phone, an unblocked Motorola Moto E, on 4 separate trips to Colombia in the last 12 months. Not only did the chip not expire, the data package from my prior trip carried over on each new trip. My trips were spaced about 90 days apart.[/QUOTE]Claro seems to be the safest route to go. Tigo, will definitely block your phone, your sim choice was a wise one!
My friend matched with a hottie from Tinder and invited her back home.
She offered to make him a drink and he agreed. After this he don't remember more. She literally rinsed our entire apartment. MacBook, iPhone X, cash, credit cards and ID cards. Never trust a hoe to make a drink Be safe and don't trust tinder girls like my friend did.
Since you teased it a little bit. What do you rank as the most effective option?
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2231179]To each, his own, but I know Pattaya and I prefer Medellin (and Bogota, too) much more than Pattaya. I prefer Latinas anyway, but if you say you're getting bored, why no try something new? The scene in Medellin is amazing: the women are much more sensuous in my experience, much more varied as far as looks, and it's a world-class city to boot. You should have no problem finding 8+ girls no matter what your personal scale is, and Tinder is only the (most expensive, least effective) tip of the iceberg here.[/QUOTE]
Can someone describe exactly how this works?
You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2231143]I have so much to write about but so little time. In a nutshell:
Came here for 5 days. Banged 5 chicks. Due to a budget and unforeseen costs I had to limit the amount of leches I had. 2 Facebook chicks and 3 casa girls. I did several rounds on Veracruz but none really caught my eyes and honestly most looked down right dirty (just my opinion! Facebook girl #1 was a 6 but great attitude. Paid 80 k with video. Facebook #2 paid 100 k with video. Was easily a 9. Surprised she had a kid. Easily hottest mom I ever encountered, could never tell she had a baby and was relatively tight. First ever GF experience I've had. Definitely made me believe she was into me (probably was the money though). Casa girls was 4-8's. 8's seemed very unenthusiastic so I went with 3 7's that seemed much more into me. Video tip of 20 and 30 k. Not really my style but hey when in Rome.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2231245]Can someone describe exactly how this works?
You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.[/QUOTE]Actually you pretty much nailed it, however I wouldn't ask if they are hoes from the get go. The way I've done it is have a casual conversation at first and then casually ask how much would she charge for you to see her. Negotiate from there on the price and what's included. All this I've done over a course of a few days. Like others have said not all answer and not all are prepagos. I met a few they weren't and I played it off. They still wanted to hang but unfortunately with limited time and money it wasn't possible.
[QUOTE=ThisIsARandom;2231236]My friend matched with a hottie from Tinder and invited her back home.
She offered to make him a drink and he agreed. After this he don't remember more. She literally rinsed our entire apartment. MacBook, iPhone X, cash, credit cards and ID cards. Never trust a hoe to make a drink Be safe and don't trust tinder girls like my friend did.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry this happened, but it makes me wonder if people actually read this forum. There is some very good advice on here (and occasionally bad advice). One of the warnings most frequently offered is don't drink anything that's been out of your sight, even if for a few seconds.
Even reading through Trip Advisor will likely give you some of the same warnings.
You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2231226]Is a factura, it shows proof of purchase. So if you try to register one without that receipt / factura. Good luck. But do you know how many phones I have without a receipt. . sometimes it just pays for me to not post. Without your receipt / factura, it will be impossible to register a outside the country phone. Without a cdula, forget registering the phone at all! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2231245]Can someone describe exactly how this works?
You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.[/QUOTE]I am headed to Medellin at the end of the month. Like the gentleman above, I also need some coaching up on the facebook game. I have searched, but found little. What are the initial search terms input to facebook search. I have tried several. Please PM me some starter chicas pages. I am not asking for your best, just some starters, Then I mine my own from their friends and replies. I am particularly interested in MHM with university talent. Thanks in advance. I swear I will report.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2231261]I'm sorry this happened, but it makes me wonder if people actually read this forum. There is some very good advice on here (and occasionally bad advice). One of the warnings most frequently offered is don't drink anything that's been out of your sight, even if for a few seconds.
Even reading through Trip Advisor will likely give you some of the same warnings.[/QUOTE]Read this forum? Makes me wonder if people have ever left their house! I guess I get it though. If guys aren't used to women and they get the little head thinking in place of the big head when someone shows them some type of attention, then they are subject to do anything.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2231264]You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.[/QUOTE]But at one point you must swap sim cards or have an international plan on an American company's system. It all sounds nice until you arrive here in Medellin without an unlocked foreign phone and attempt to use it. Good luck walking into any official tigo store & officially registering a phone with an American passport. You can buy sim cards at any tigo carrier, but after 30 days, they will block the phone. I can assure you this! Pollonegro is out!
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2231245]Can someone describe exactly how this works?
You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.[/QUOTE]Create an alternate profile for yourself. Do a little research on girls that are known and open prepagos. Start a convo, then ask for a cita. They will say a number, ask what is included, then bargain. Try a few below. I spent 2 months building mine before my first trip. I literally have a spreadsheet. If they don't respond on facebook, try instagram.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yisela.restrepo.52[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.facebook.com/has.leal.90[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2231283]Read this forum? Makes me wonder if people have ever left their house! I guess I get it though. If guys aren't used to women and they get the little head thinking in place of the big head when someone shows them some type of attention, then they are subject to do anything.[/QUOTE]You invite a hooker to your apartment a she offers to make you a drink? You hired a hooker, not a bartender. If your alarm bells aren't going off, then the best thing that can happen is you get robbed. At least it will help others be smarter.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2231240]Since you teased it a little bit. What do you rank as the most effective option?[/QUOTE]Depends on what you're looking for. What do you like about Pattaya specifically?
There is a lot of good advice (and warnings) about Tinder and Facebook and other platforms as far as establishing some contacts before you arrive. I live here, but my experience has been that these have been more expensive and less dependable. And they take a lot of work, although the work can be kind of fun, especially if you're prepping for a vacation.
If you want to immediately get into the action, go to a place like Energy where you'll get a lineup of talent and can choose your personal 8+. Five minutes later you'll both be naked.
If you want to establish a little chemistry first, go to one of the Centro clubs: Conejitas, Barra Executiva, or Maracaibo. (All of these are on the shared map. Hopefully you've discovered that already).
If you want company outside of the clubs, my favorite method is meeting a girl at a club, developing chemistry, sessioning, and then seeing if she wants to continue outside as a short-term or long-term GF. I've found that most are interested. Plus, you've already developed chemistry, and they're usually cheaper than Tinder / FB / etc.
If you have experience in Pattaya, nothing should be too intimidating as far as El Centro. Be smart and you'll be fine.
Go nuts with Tinder and FB as you prepare for your trip. But also try the strategies above, and I'll bet you post afterwards that you had more success on the ground.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2231264]You can register a phone with any valid passport or a Colombian cedula. No phone purchase receipt is necessary. You don't even have to be in Colombia to register the phone; you can do it over the Internet from anywhere. You must know the IMEI (basically the serial number) of the phone you want to register.[/QUOTE]I received this text from claro, it says: "Because Your equipment is not approved in Colombia. It will be blocked in 45 calendar days if it is not homologated. If you bought it in Colombia, complain to the equipment vendor! " I can't make this stuff up, pollonegro is out!
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2231143] Video tip of 20 and 30 k. [/QUOTE]When you say "video tip," are you talking about a short clip of the chicas or recording the whole session? Just curious.
[QUOTE=LubeFreely;2231280]I am headed to Medellin at the end of the month. Like the gentleman above, I also need some coaching up on the facebook game. I have searched, but found little. What are the initial search terms input to facebook search. I have tried several. Please PM me some starter chicas pages. I am not asking for your best, just some starters, Then I mine my own from their friends and replies. I am particularly interested in MHM with university talent. Thanks in advance. I swear I will report.[/QUOTE]Swear, huh? And yet, according to your post history on ISG, you were in Tijuana from May 31 to June 4. Nope, no trip report written by you on your experience. And now you are begging for help for Medellin?
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2231245]Can someone describe exactly how this works?
You create a fake profile, upload 1 or 2 (real?) photos to the profile, then start friending random girls who live in Medellin who look hot, then ask them if they are hoes and. If so. How much they charge for CIM? I'm sure it can't be this simple.[/QUOTE]Simple. Look up "La Vane Restrepo" and "Pablo Medina". Lighter toned guy with a orange hat on. Friend Request them and look at their friends list. Filled the damn brim with hookers and even non pros that want to fuck for free if you look as good as I do hahaha. Take one hour and friend request every single girl that catches your eye. I wouldn't go as far as actually opening the profile in depth. Could be a huge waste of time because a lot of them will not accept you because you have 10 friends and appear to be someone spying on them. Some will. Then look at her friends. You can have z full list in 5 days once they start accepting. Now. Once they accept you want yo look for certain red flags to determine if she is a pro, semi pro, or regular girl that will fuck for free if you look as good as me hahahahaha. 1. Does she have any nakedish pictures laying in her bed. If so pro! Does she have pictures of her body only. No head in the picture. Just he ass, vagina or tits. Pro or semi pro! Here's a clear one. Does she have pictures of her looking amazing. But she put an emoji over her face. Pro / semi pro! Those are usually on their escort site also where their faces are blocked out. They just brought them over to facebook. She's got a double life for sure. Message her. If she responds with "amor" she either likes you or. Pro / semi pro. She flirting either way. Don't get hung up on the amor response as that could lead you astray but the other 3 are tell-tale signs! If her pictures are only of her and she foesnt tag her hot friends it's for a reason. She doesn't want you lurking to them and her losing business. Or it's not her real account. It's her semi pro account. Her "real account" will have her real friends and tags etc etc. This slutbox account won't. Only friends she will tag are the girls she slutboxes around with on Saturday nights. Also. Look at her wall. Only pictures of her looking sexy. No post about anything else at all. This is her sulutbox account. Bottom line is look at her friends you'll start to notice a few guys that are most of the pages friendslist. If it says you and fat william have 27 friends in common, and your only chasing hot Colombian prostitutes. Most likely so is he! Friend request his ass too. Then tear his friends list apart. And then figure out a way to look like me so you can get the dime non pros who pretend like they are only "doing studies". Well I'm studying that ass baby LOL! My messages inbox is scary long. More women than I can fit in one trip and it's not because of my looks sadly. I look great guy wise but really.
I just figured out a method to put myself in their fb world. The problem is that when I started messaging them I just came on as attracted to them. 1 out of every 10 would say she has sex as a job. The rest seem to wait until you bring it up. After chit chatting I then ask to to take it to whatsapp. You now have their direct number. Look at her picture there. Probably some head shot with their tits bursting everywhere LOL another red flag you got one. Now I have 26 girls on whatsapp that I message daily. And I can't even count the Facebook messages. I gain one a day and lose 10 due to no activity. Sometimes I send them all the exact same message and even I their responses. If one falls to the bottom of my list I go scoop her back up later with a how beautiful she is message. These chicks are vain and telling them how exotic they look always works and gets you a gracias papi or bebe or amor. Once your on whatsapp they seem to feel a lot less public than fb and the prices will come orrrrrr the naked pictures and possible free sex. Hopefully this helps that one guy that needed a "different method".
Wish I had a good exit like Pollo Negro Out.
Hey everyone,
Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.
Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.
Thanks.
Go to [URL]claro.com.co[/URL], follow the links to mobile and register the phone with your passport and the phone number of your Claro SIM. The bit about a receipt pertains to phones purchased in Colombia. Your IMEI will indicate to Claro whether the phone was purchased in Colombia or not. Good luck.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2231552]I received this text from claro, it says: "Because Your equipment is not approved in Colombia. It will be blocked in 45 calendar days if it is not homologated. If you bought it in Colombia, complain to the equipment vendor! " I can't make this stuff up, pollonegro is out![/QUOTE]
OK, whatever you say. Good luck.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2231310]But at one point you must swap sim cards or have an international plan on an American company's system. It all sounds nice until you arrive here in Medellin without an unlocked foreign phone and attempt to use it. Good luck walking into any official tigo store & officially registering a phone with an American passport. You can buy sim cards at any tigo carrier, but after 30 days, they will block the phone. I can assure you this! Pollonegro is out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Itzdpk;2231660]Hey everyone,
Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.
Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.
Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?
Good luck and happy hunting!
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2230827]Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.
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Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.
I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .
Best travel item I've bought all year.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2231748]These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.
Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?
Good luck and happy hunting![/QUOTE]Hey Chill brother,
If you don't remember that's fine. Someone else in this forum might have been with these girls and they might remember how good or bad the experience was. If not that's fine too. I have come across loads of examples on this forum and others where people have commented on their experience with a particular girl. Isn't the whole point of a forum like this to share and receive feedback?
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2231748]These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.
Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?
Good luck and happy hunting![/QUOTE]C'mon. Now. What are the chances there could be more than 1 Luisa or Jimenez in Medellin?
It really doesn't matter if anyone recognizes them. All he can learn is what their experience was like. He might look like Ozuna and the guy who had the terrible experience looks like Jabba. The guy who had a great time might be the world's greatest lover, while this guy needs a map to find the pussy.
I know 1 girl who got a lukewarm review from 1 guy, 2 fantastic reviews and 1 great review. Then another guy, given all the information about her, and he's desperate for a good session, can't get her to come over, because he thinks he can insult her and get her for half price. After complaining to me she warned all her friends.
What it boils down to is YMMV. How you connect with the girls depends on you.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2231757]There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.
[URL]https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ[/URL]
Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.
I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .
Best travel item I've bought all year.[/QUOTE]This was some very good advice. They have an Asian sim as well. Only issue is I didn't see Dominican Republic on the list. So maybe I have to find something else but for now it will work perfect for my trip.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2231650]Simple. Look up "La Vane Restrepo" and "Pablo Medina". Lighter toned guy with a orange hat on. Friend Request them and look at their friends list. Filled the damn brim with hookers and even non pros that want to fuck for free if you look as good as I do hahaha. Take one hour and friend request every single girl that catches your eye. I wouldn't go as far as actually opening the profile in depth. Could be a huge waste of time because a lot of them will not accept you because you have 10 friends and appear to be someone spying on them. Some will. Then look at her friends. You can have z full list in 5 days once they start accepting. Now..[/QUOTE]I call the profiles you described "Bobo bait. " Just a few sexy pics, no real content. You'll find quite a few are fake profiles. Some are trolls, some are pimps, some are girls who don't look as good as the photos. Some are angry ex Western Union novios and the rest are long time pros and the pics are rarely current.
I rarely waste my time with them. I'll make an exception if a select few people are mutual friends. In my opinion, the time to do research is before you click the "add friend" button, not after. Then again, it all depends on what you're looking for. If your selection criteria is 1. Do I like her pics? 2. Will she come over and fuck me? And 3. Is the price right?, then it doesn't matter.
I look for more substance. First, I try to determine her age. I remember 1 girl some guy had raved about, 18, fantastic, did everything. Three weeks earlier she had posted pics of her 15th birthday party. Pass. Next, I decide if she's available. That's a little more complicated than "does she have sexy pictures?" Every Colombiana has sexy pictures. It's the national pastime. I also take a look at her family situation. Kids? Boyfriends? Dogs? Overly possessive lesbian girlfriends? It doesn't matter to me, except I don't want to be the guy killed by a 250# lesbian for stealing her girl.
If she passes my tests, I'll send the friend request and forget about her. If she accepts, about half will immediately send a message. From there it's just a matter of who I want and when I want them.
As for sending friend requests to fellow mongers, good luck. I only accept people who I know and get along with.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2231748]These are my favorite kind of posts. There are literally thousands of chicks selling themselves here. Wny do people post pics and ask "Does anyone know these girls?" It's almost impossible. Even going to a place like New Life, they probably have 50 chicks working there. When the lineup comes through, I can't even remember their names to pick one.
Is there any example on this forum or any other of anyone recognizing anyone?
Good luck and happy hunting![/QUOTE]Ditto this statement, hell the photos that the original poster posted and the girls are literally dime a dozen, not bragging but to the OP in the past week alone I have partied with 5 or 6 girls who resemble your photos very closely, so the best advice is to simply jump inti the game head first, have fun!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2231560]When you say "video tip," are you talking about a short clip of the chicas or recording the whole session? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Whole session.
But what if I can tell you the chica's name is "Tatiana"? Does that make it easier to identify her? LOL!
Seriously, you are 100% right. To be fair, guys asking that question don't probably spend enough time in country to realize how hard it is to separate one facebook chica from another. Even if their weight and hairdos didn't change as often as they do it would be difficult.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2231929]Ditto this statement, hell the photos that the original poster posted and the girls are literally dime a dozen, not bragging but to the OP in the past week alone I have partied with 5 or 6 girls who resemble your photos very closely, so the best advice is to simply jump inti the game head first, have fun!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2231872]I call the profiles you described "Bobo bait. " Just a few sexy pics, no real content. You'll find quite a few are fake profiles. Some are trolls, some are pimps, some are girls who don't look as good as the photos. Some are angry ex Western Union novios and the rest are long time pros and the pics are rarely current.
I rarely waste my time with them. I'll make an exception if a select few people are mutual friends. In my opinion, the time to do research is before you click the "add friend" button, not after. Then again, it all depends on what you're looking for. If your selection criteria is 1. Do I like her pics? 2. Will she come over and fuck me? And 3. Is the price right?, then it doesn't matter.
I look for more substance. First, I try to determine her age. I remember 1 girl some guy had raved about, 18, fantastic, did everything. Three weeks earlier she had posted pics of her 15th birthday party. Pass. Next, I decide if she's available. That's a little more complicated than "does she have sexy pictures?" Every Colombiana has sexy pictures. It's the national pastime. I also take a look at her family situation. Kids? Boyfriends? Dogs? Overly possessive lesbian girlfriends? It doesn't matter to me, except I don't want to be the guy killed by a 250# lesbian for stealing her girl.
If she passes my tests, I'll send the friend request and forget about her. If she accepts, about half will immediately send a message. From there it's just a matter of who I want and when I want them.
As for sending friend requests to fellow mongers, good luck. I only accept people who I know and get along with.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that the guy in the orange hat and I have over 100 friends in common and I have never seen any girls through Vane. So they are the girls, not some fake profiles. You don't even need to add the guy.
[QUOTE=Itzdpk;2231660]Hey everyone,
Thanks for all the informative posts here. My friend and I are headed to Medellin the second week of October and your posts have been of immense help to plan the trip. I have PM-ed some of you and thanks for all the great suggestions. I have been trying the facebook route and have started talking to a few chicas. Have any of you spend time with the below two of them. Two of the pics are of Luisa and two of the others are of Jiminez. Would love to know your experience. Want to line up appointment before we land.
Let me know if any of you are in town from 12th to the 15th of Oct. Would love to catch up.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yeah dude I know both chicas. Weird though that you are asking about a pair of sisters. Xime (I think she uses Jenny) has been a solid provider for several years and has a good rep. Her little sister Luisa just got her cedula last fall so she's 19 or very close to it now. She's a real flaca and tries hard to please too. Beware she acts sorta "homeless" and will eat / drink absolutely everything within reach. No joke. Neither made my repeat list but they are decent enough providers. Good luck.
https://www.facebook.com/jennyfer.agudelojimenez
https://www.facebook.com/mariajuliana.jimenezpalacios?ref=br_rs
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.
Thanks!
What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?
Thanks gents.
190 k for 40 minutes. The girls here are more natural than la Isla (most of whom are enhanced). Lady drinks here are 24 k compared to 30 k at la Isla. All Drinks and bottles are cheaper too. Overall Fase dos seems like a better option.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232218]What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?
Thanks gents.[/QUOTE]Most of them asking between 150-250 mil pesos and taxi money. I suggest don't pay more than 150 mil.
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2231757]There is a way easier solution. I buy this Three-UK SIM card off Amazon and it has free roaming in 70 different countries, including all of Europe and of course Colombia. It's 12 GB for $45 valid for one year, which works out to about $3/ GB which I think is cheaper than here if you buy local. You don't get local SMS or calling but everyone has whatsapp so who cares. Pop it in, and you're good to go. Works in USA as well if you need backup data (it's nice because you can pick your provider in case of bad signal). I use about 3-5 gb per month.
[URL]https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ[/URL]
Activation is as easy as popping it into your unlocked phone.
I pop it in during my flight, and when I land, I'm just as cool as everyone who flips on their phones right when they land, to let all the ladies know I'm officially here. .
Best travel item I've bought all year.[/QUOTE]You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.
The website for the product you are talking about is [URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72.[/URL] This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.
I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?
For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity.
I appreciate whatever advice anyone wants to give in general, but am especially looking for advice on my specific concerns.
Thanks in advance, and thanks to all of you that post so those of us that rarely get off the leash can live vicariously.
The Ramblin Man.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2232157] Xime (I think she uses Jenny) has been a solid provider for several years and has a good rep. Her little sister Luisa just got her cedula last fall so she's 19 or very close to it now. She's a real flaca and tries hard to please too. Beware she acts sorta "homeless" and will eat / drink absolutely everything within reach. No joke. [/QUOTE]Sessioned & repeated with both in Dec 2017. Both awesome providers. Luisa complained about me being 'to big' which never happens so she was a bit timid, but like Lucky pointed out, she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her. Very polite, kinda shy but 2 great sessions! Xime has one of the finest asses I've ever seen and is an awesome provider as well. Repeated with Xime 2 X in July and she did not dissapoint. Both very beautiful Piasas, on time & great providers. Xime got 200 kcop & Luisa got 150 kcop + chips + beer + candy bars + Baileys. Jajajaja. IMO, you cannot go wrong with either.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Pokeris;2232237]Most of them asking between 150-250 mil pesos and taxi money. I suggest don't pay more than 150 mil.[/QUOTE]What's are they asking for all nights or multiple days (like 3 days)? How much do you add in for taxi and do they tell you up front or after they arrive?
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232218]What's the going rate for a Facebook or Tinder chica to the room for 1 or 2 hours? (1 or 2 times?
Thanks gents.[/QUOTE]150-250 depending on what you want. (anal, BBBJCIM, video etc.) also depends on how hot the girl is I noticed the ones in high demand won't budge off 250.
I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232189]I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The airport is pretty small so it won't be too hard deciding on a place to meet. Google Maps has interior views of MDE.
[QUOTE=JanuaryNineth;2232388]I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?[/QUOTE]When I had that issue with Banco Colombia ATM it was my bank (Bank America) that was stopping the transactions. Be advised you can get a transaction fee for every time you try it also as I found out to my dismay.
I had posted a travel alert with them but they cut it off due to "suspicious transactions", IE me pulling money 2 or 3 times a day. They turned it on after my call and the 1/2 HR I was on hold on a holiday weekend.
We really need a new subsection for FAQ on ATMs, cellphones, taxis etc.
Medellin is very different than any other mongering city in the world. I wold recommend you read back several pages in the forum as there is a lot of good information and inside into how to get chicas. I strongly recommend you get your FB game going a month or so before you hit the ground. It will make it much easier on you. They only place I would recommend pick up street girls is parque lleras and still no guarantee on service and that they won't have sticky fingers.
There is zero guarantee that the girls will let you take pics or video. Everything is possible for the right amount of $ and negotiation skills. Some chicas are good with english some will not speak a lick.
I would recommend stay at the deuchbag inn for a couple of days it is a great way to network with other mongers and chicas. after that it shouldn't be an issue at all.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354]I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?
For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity.
I appreciate whatever advice anyone wants to give in general, but am especially looking for advice on my specific concerns.
Thanks in advance, and thanks to all of you that post so those of us that rarely get off the leash can live vicariously.
The Ramblin Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JanuaryNineth;2232388]I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?[/QUOTE]Had a buddy earlier this year that had a Wells Fargo card & he had a hard time getting $ out of ATM's, even after he called them. He tried over a half dozen places & finally found one in the Sante fe Mall that took it. Don't remember the name except sign was in red.
[QUOTE=JanuaryNineth;2232388]I tried taking out money from banco Colombia ATM. I have wells Fargo visa debit card. The ATM says transaction completed but never gives the money out. Does anyone know about this?[/QUOTE]I gave up on my Wells Fargo ATM card long ago, one of the worst card to travel with overseas. They even blocked me close to LAX airport once, trying to pump gas, due to so-called suspicious activity on my card, a bunch of balloney. Now, I use other cards, such as Schwab visa / ATM card, the best.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2232365]Sessioned & repeated with both in Dec 2017. Both awesome providers. Luisa complained about me being 'to big' which never happens so she was a bit timid, but like Lucky pointed out, she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her. Very polite, kinda shy but 2 great sessions! Xime has one of the finest asses I've ever seen and is an awesome provider as well. Repeated with Xime 2 X in July and she did not dissapoint. Both very beautiful Piasas, on time & great providers. Xime got 200 kcop & Luisa got 150 kcop + chips + beer + candy bars + Baileys. Jajajaja. IMO, you cannot go wrong with either.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Agree that both are good providers, but Jennifer (now Xime) is money hungry, and would do anything, say anything to get more money from you. One has to be careful around her and don't believe all the crap she pulls out. Her sister is slowly learning jen's ways as well, but for now she appears to be down to earth.
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354]I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? Also I saw a post that indicated a 20 k to 30 k tip is required for video. Is this correct?
For background, I am an American in my 50's a little overweight, but dress and present well. I do not have the time and skill for fb approach, but have used whatsapp when in China. My Spanish is weak, but I speak fluent google translate. I prefer to take a girl for an hour or two back to my place or to a clean love hotel. I expect that due to my outdated "game" and age I will be getting girls from the street and casas, not from pickup. I don't mind spending some money, but I want to get good value for what I spend. Also I will be spending some time on tourist activity..[/QUOTE]Just use that google translate and tell them upfront you want them to eat your ass while they shuv a finger up it. IF they don't make weird faces or slap you chances are your good to go!
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2232365]she just got her CEDULA. Her BD is early September (she is 19 y1 m now) so she had only been in the game for a few months when I met her.[/QUOTE]When the girl gets her cedula has no relationship with how long she's been in the game. Chances are she already had at least 2 years of experience before you met her. That's 2 years paid experience. Most likely she put in a 2 to 3 year unpaid internship first.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2232598]Agree that both are good providers, but Jennifer (now Xime) is money hungry, and would do anything, say anything to get more money from you. One has to be careful around her and don't believe all the crap she pulls out. Her sister is slowly learning jen's ways as well, but for now she appears to be down to earth.[/QUOTE]Added both on Facebook yesterday and experienced the opposite.
Xime was straight forward and her sister tried to rip me off.
Knew straight away she was bullshitting me, asking me how long I was going to be there, my job etc.
She then said she was in a financial situation and wanted to charge me $400 LOL.
I laughed and said no, she said how much you want. I said I would have gave you 200 but changed my mind now. She quickly backed down but I told her to forget it.
Forgive me if I am over simplifying this. What is wrong with presenting a passport at any mobile shop to buy a local SIM card? In addition to getting LTE data speeds instead of whatever throttled scheme the "world SIM" providers offer, local SIM cards offer free incoming calls. The per minute rate for outbound local and international calls is often more competitive than the world SIM deals. You need an unlocked phone. I think you also need an unlocked phone for the world SIMs.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2232299]You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.
The website for the product you are talking about is [URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72.[/URL] This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232189]I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The international and domestic arrival areas are on opposite ends of the terminal. I suggest you and your friend plan to meet outside the baggage claim area of one of the two.
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354]... I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? ...[/QUOTE]Whether or not you will be disappointed depends on where you find the working girls. If you go downtown and find some of the more homely ones or the glue / paint sniffers, you may get what you want. If you get the more attractive, up scale ladies from FB and the dating sites, you will have very little success satisfying your fascination.
She may have meant 400 KCOP which is about $130 which is still twice as much is you should pay Luisa!
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2232698]Added both on Facebook yesterday and experienced the opposite.
Xime was straight forward and her sister tried to rip me off.
Knew straight away she was bullshitting me, asking me how long I was going to be there, my job etc.
She then said she was in a financial situation and wanted to charge me $400 LOL.
I laughed and said no, she said how much you want. I said I would have gave you 200 but changed my mind now. She quickly backed down but I told her to forget it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354] My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities.
The Ramblin Man.[/QUOTE]I had a cute young Dominicana finger my prostate while giving me a BBBJ in Boca Chica. But, that's the DR and those women are the crack cocaine. I'm not suggesting you can't get it done in Colombia, nor am I suggesting that Dominicanas are preferable (they're not). But, my experience with the Colombianas is that they are a bit repulsed by jizz alone and I expect they won't be too receptive to anything up the rectum. But, I'm certain anything can be had at the right price. But, not necessarily with who you would prefer.
But, if you want your anus probed, Germany is another good destination. An actual German WG, which will typically be a freelancer or "Hobbyhure", is usually well geared towards anal activities, on your rectum if not on hers. Of course, there will be an extra charge for that. That's the German way. Its like a "Cafeteria Plan" with most of those girls.
Rimjobs? Its called the "Black Kiss" in Asia, and a common feature in massage parlors, and part of a regular routine in some places apparently. I did a trip report in the KL forum about such a place last March.
Now you are wondering why I am telling about these other places and not Medellin. Well, its because those are the places to go for those kind of kinks. Again, I'm not saying you couldn't find those things in MDE. But, my experience after visiting Bogota recently and Medellin a while back is that the girls working the casas have the most limited range of services, out of the six countries I've visited for punting. If your kinks are your priority, consider a different destination.
BTW, why do you call yourself RmblinMan, when by your own admission, you rarely get off the leash?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2232801]Whether or not you will be disappointed depends on where you find the working girls. If you go downtown and find some of the more homely ones or the glue / paint sniffers, you may get what you want. If you get the more attractive, up scale ladies from FB and the dating sites, you will have very little success satisfying your fascination.[/QUOTE]I was surprised on my 2nd trip how cute one of the glue huffers in front of the church was, she was dressed nice and cute.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2232795]Originally Posted by Cm6363
I'm flying into MDE separate from a buddy. One of us is arriving on an international flight and the other is arriving on a domestic LATAM flight. Can anyone please recommend a can't miss place for one of us to sit until the other arrives. It is a toss up who will be ready first with a half hour extra available for passport control.
Thanks!
The international and domestic arrival areas are on opposite ends of the terminal. I suggest you and your friend plan to meet outside the baggage claim area of one of the two.[/QUOTE]Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.
Thanks.
International arrival is at gate #1. Its just one sliding door before you call the taxi, can't miss each other.
Puerta uno. (Gate one).
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2232830]She may have meant 400 KCOP which is about $130 which is still twice as much is you should pay Luisa![/QUOTE]Yeah you're probably right, either way too much.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232906]Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Best place in my opinion would be to go out the airport and walk directly (a few traffic lanes) of across to the shopping and food court area. There, in air conditioned and less hectic space and on the second floor you can look across to the baggage area and have Wi-Fi. The second person merely goes to baggage claim walks out the door and across the way into the windows where the food court is. Coffee etc and is where if needed you can buy si, card.
Near the juan valdez coffee shop. You can sit around that area and wait.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2232906]Thanks Fun Luvr, but neither one of us knows how long the other will have to wait. A half to an hour. Thus someplace to sit outside of baggage claim of the international area. Can anyone think of a particular spot? For example. There are benches or seats off to the _ side or a cafe / restaurant named _.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2233042]Near the juan valdez coffee shop. You can sit around that area and wait.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a Juan Valdez coffee shop on the first floor (arrivals area). There is one on the second floor. I've walked from the domestic area to the international area on the first floor only one time, and I don't remember any place that has seating.
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354]I have been reading everyone's posts for a while without ever getting the opportunity to visit Colombia. I have travelled often for business, but this is my first mongering trip ever. I will be going to Medellin and Cartagena this year and I have a couple of questions my research has not answered. My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much? [/QUOTE]I spent a week at the mansion in Medellin recently. I found that about half the girls rimmed without my even having to ask.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2233053]I spent a week at the mansion in Medellin recently. I found that about half the girls rimmed without my even having to ask.[/QUOTE]Not my thing, but if you want rimming I suggest Brasil. I'd estimate half do it w/o request.
Hello Seniors,
This is my first time posting here at ISG. A should out to all the contributors and excellent reports by so many guys. An Indian guy living for the past decade in the states and planning a trip to Colombia for the first time. Previous mongering experiences include Philippines, Thailand, Tijuana multiple times. Never been to DR or any Latin American destinations.
My trip is coming up in 3 weeks:
My budget is usd1500 for 10 day trip for food and girls. I plan on about 2 one hour sessions per day. Is this reasonable expectations. I am only seeking strip clubs, casas, massage and street girls. If I have difficulty scoring, I may go with prepagos internet.
Since this is my first trip should I make a pit stop for a few days in Bogota? Routard trip report is too irresistible and makes it seem doable for a newbie like me.
I plan to stay in M1 for the first 2 nights and then pick one of the suggested hotels in the lists in El Centro for 7-8 days. Nada Spanish Zilch. The difficulties I would face picking up girls, speaking with uber or exchanging money or ordering food through domicilios or any of the normal things we do in day to day activities are things that I am prepared to face but. Would these be so great that I may not be able enjoy the trip?
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2232299]You gave the wrong website. The website states explicitly that it is only for unlocked 3 G or 4 G tablets, dongle, and Mobile Wi-Fi devices. Further, in the Customer Questions and Answers section, it states explicitly that it cannot be used for phones. Also, Columbia is not one the countries listed as available.
The website for the product you are talking about is [URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FI1JW72.[/URL] This SIM card is for cell phones, works in Colombia, is 12 GB but is only valid for 30 days.[/QUOTE]Nope, this link is correct.
[URL]https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ[/URL]
It works just fine in my iPhone, and yes it is only data. New countries are added all the time, and I assure you Colombia is on the list as this is the exact card I'm using. It has also worked fine in Hong Kong, USA, Canada, and Panama. The link you gave is the one month version of the same product, which I'm sure works fine, but the 12-month version is like having an unlimited world SIM in your pocket for a year. One year 12 GB is $50 data only. Your link, 30 days 12 GB is $30. If you need that much data per month then the $30 is cheaper. If you use about 1 GB / week traveling like I do, then the one year is awesome. I keep a backup handy too, never know when a Europe trip is going to pop up, and $3/ GB is cheaper than just about any local SIM I've ever used.
It also receives SMS's as I've used the number to activate various services that require a number.
Yes on the second floor. There are spots to sit down around that area but not Valdez coffee stand. It is a small airport, I don't see the big deal here. You should be able to see each other quickly.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2233052]I don't think there is a Juan Valdez coffee shop on the first floor (arrivals area). There is one on the second floor. I've walked from the domestic area to the international area on the first floor only one time, and I don't remember any place that has seating.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233108] Nada Spanish Zilch. The difficulties I would face picking up girls, speaking with uber or exchanging money or ordering food through domicilios or any of the normal things we do in day to day activities are things that I am prepared to face but. Would these be so great that I may not be able enjoy the trip?[/QUOTE]Lack of Spanish skills will definitely play a big factor if you really want to enjoy the company of the beatuful women for couple of hours. It will be irritating / inconvenient to use G. Translate for every word. I faced this in CDMX and Bogota. If your goal is just sports f*ng like many in this forum, language should be a non factor and Santa Fe in Bogota fits the bill, cheap and women every where.
If you want to really enjoy the women with her company and some interaction, invest some money and time on SA, CC and facebook. There are some English speaking girls on these sites.
Betafin.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233108]Hello Seniors,
This is my first time posting here at ISG. A should out to all the contributors and excellent reports by so many guys. An Indian guy living for the past decade in the states and planning a trip to Colombia for the first time. Previous mongering experiences include Philippines, Thailand, Tijuana multiple times. Never been to DR or any Latin American destinations.
My trip is coming up in 3 weeks:
My budget is usd1500 for 10 day trip for food and girls. I plan on about 2 one hour sessions per day. Is this reasonable expectations. I am only seeking strip clubs, casas, massage and street girls. If I have difficulty scoring, I may go with prepagos internet.[/QUOTE]Is your $1500 budget only for food and girls, or does it also include lodging? In either case it's enough, although it will be a bit tight if hotel comes out of the $1500. This is because you'll spend 1/3 of your budget during your 2 nights at M1.
Given your budget, it's probably not worth a side trip to Bogota.
Now here's the problem I see. Planning 1 hour sessions with casa, strip club and street girls is really not the best bang for your buck. These girls are mostly used to 15 to 30 minute quickies. They aren't always going to give you much after the first 30 minutes. You'll end up paying for 20 or 30 minutes of girls just wasting time, almost every session. Mansion girls and Facebook girls are used to keeping guys entertained for an hour or more.
For every problem, there's a solution. During your time at M1 get every WhatsApp number you can. Get in a daytime 30 minute session at a casa or with a street girl, and get numbers from the best ones. Then use those numbers to get someone to your hotel at night.
Could someone please share where the original thread / post this picture came from? Thanks in advance!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=230052&d=1445409115[/URL]
[QUOTE=RobertTx;2232921]International arrival is at gate #1. Its just one sliding door before you call the taxi, can't miss each other.
Puerta uno. (Gate one).[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? I have been through that airport more than 50 times and I don't understand you. There are several international arrival gates. Passengers must go through immigration and customs after going through their arrival gate.
[QUOTE=BetaFin;2233158]Lack of Spanish skills will definitely play a big factor if you really want to enjoy the company of the beatuful women for couple of hours. It will be irritating / inconvenient to use G. Translate for every word. I faced this in CDMX and Bogota. If your goal is just sports f*ng like many in this forum, language should be a non factor and Santa Fe in Bogota fits the bill, cheap and women every where.
If you want to really enjoy the women with her company and some interaction, invest some money and time on SA, CC and facebook. There are some English speaking girls on these sites.
Betafin.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I work full time and time is a huge constraint for me. Although, I am prepared to spend a bit higher and do not have exacting standards of GFE or PSE. An average sport f*ng session should be considered as a success notch for my trip report. I am more apprehensive about rip offs, scammers etc arising out of not knowing the language and hence being an easy mark.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2233197]Is your $1500 budget only for food and girls, or does it also include lodging? In either case it's enough, although it will be a bit tight if hotel comes out of the $1500. This is because you'll spend 1/3 of your budget during your 2 nights at M1.
Given your budget, it's probably not worth a side trip to Bogota..[/QUOTE]Wonderful suggestion about getting whatapp numbers. Any other tips would be much appreciated. Also, for various reasons, I am unable to invest time in Facebook, CC or SA before the trip.
My budget is only for food and drinks, doesn't include price for lodging. The reason I am mulling a side trip to Bogota is because some trip reports indicate without facebook, SA and CC, there may not be much success for a newbie without Spanish skills in the bars or casas in el centro.
Perhaps I might have better luck in Santa Fe.
Also, when they say 30 minutes, does it mean strict 30 minutes even if one has not finished the deed?
In most places (read Tijuana, Pattaya) 30 minutes gives you a complete ride and sometimes the ride may take 40 minutes or 20 minutes depending on several circumstances and camaraderie with the lady in question.
Of the 10 days, I am planning to do 2-3 days of M1 and 3 days of some place in Poblado and the last 3 days in Hotel Botero in Centro, primarily because that is where the action is and I do not to do too many taxis or uber because of the inability to converse with the drivers in Spanish.
Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?
Are there any other alternatives?
Been seeing a number of posts about this, and I figure I'd share my experience.
I knew nothing about the rules / laws here when I purchased a SIM card at Claro in Laureles (next to the Exito / mall) three months ago. I was paying so little attention to the process that I can't remember for sure, but they must've registered it correctly using my passport and whatever else they needed. I've had no problems adding credit since that point.
On the other hand, my wife went to Tigo and she's gone through Dante's Inferno trying to get it sorted. Her phone was locked, and ultimately she had to plead with and badger the guy at Tigo who sold her the SIM card to meet her at a government office etc etc etc. It took three appointments and two weeks to fix the issue.
Small sampling size so I wouldn't necessarily claim that Claro is better than Tigo. But if you're coming here and planning to stay or return, make sure it gets done right the first time.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233283]I am more apprehensive about rip offs, scammers etc arising out of not knowing the language and hence being an easy mark.[/QUOTE]I normally avoid the street girls because of the safety, language issues and scared of running into drug addicts. It will be boring to spend 10 days either in Bogota or in Medellin as both doesn't have that much to do outside mongering. I would split the trip to 3 or 4 days to Bogota and rest in Medellin. Santa Fe is a must visit for any monger visiting Columbia in my view. But it is not for faint hearts, would recommend visiting between 4-6 PM until you get used to the area. You are safe once you are inside any club and there are plenty of beautiful girls in most of the clubs. PussyHouse strip club is the best club in Bogota, but lack of Spanish skills will be an issue when you are interacting with Waiters and Girls. Casas in Medellin should provide you on what you are looking for in Medellin. There is plenty of detailed information on casas in this forum.
Play safe and have fun in Columbia.
Betafin.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233291]Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?
Are there any other alternatives?[/QUOTE]The Hotel Nutibara which Hotel Botero is behind may have some english speakers at the front desk but not sure about that, and I don't think they are chica to your room friendly.
I have had buddies stay at the Botero with no spanish skills, should be doable. If you do stay there make sure you read my complete guide to the Botero in post #925 in the Medellin Hotel thread: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page5[/URL].
You want as high a floor as possible so the street noise is less notable, and the west side (opposite entrance) which is cooler in the morning. A ISG member has been staying there since last year, might still be there, he can show you the ropes. (PM for some more info on that).
[QUOTE=BetaFin;2233464]I normally avoid the street girls because of the safety, language issues and scared of running into drug addicts. It will be boring to spend 10 days either in Bogota or in Medellin as both doesn't have that much to do outside mongering. I would split the trip to 3 or 4 days to Bogota and rest in Medellin. Santa Fe is a must visit for any monger visiting Columbia in my view. But it is not for faint hearts, would recommend visiting between 4-6 PM until you get used to the area. You are safe once you are inside any club and there are plenty of beautiful girls in most of the clubs. PussyHouse strip club is the best club in Bogota, but lack of Spanish skills will be an issue when you are interacting with Waiters and Girls. Casas in Medellin should provide you on what you are looking for in Medellin. There is plenty of detailed information on casas in this forum.
Play safe and have fun in Columbia.
Betafin.[/QUOTE]Yes, have fun in Colombia!
LOL.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233291]Of the 10 days, I am planning to do 2-3 days of M1 and 3 days of some place in Poblado and the last 3 days in Hotel Botero in Centro, primarily because that is where the action is and I do not to do too many taxis or uber because of the inability to converse with the drivers in Spanish.
Is Botero a strictly no go for a newbie or Spanish virgin?
Are there any other alternatives?[/QUOTE]I've only been to Colombia once. I've shacked up at Hotel Botero once. Botero is located is a pretty good spot. It's walkable distance for a lot of mongering locations. The hotel staff did speak English. That being said.
The room smelled of smoke (prob just the room they gave me and most of the rooms were prob okay). There were no blankets, it was just a sheet but the AC either wasn't working or wasn't working well. I saw a roaches there. On my first day there, I didn't do nearly enough research and just tried to walk around and find some goodies. I was only able to find trans girls and the club I went to close by had like 4's and 5's. I got cheated at the club (paid up front, girl said BBBJ but tried to put a rubber on me). I threw a fit and the club owner got me like half my money back. I went back to the hotel and asked the guy up front where he would go and he sold me a pile of crap about the place next door. Sex was a little below average and with a 5. (cost was like 50 k. The guy up front told me it was common place to tip 50 k just for normal stuff, so I did).
The next day, I went to the other clubs talked about on here and they were a lot better. 50 k (17) for 30 minutes and 50 k for add ONS like BBBJ and BBFS. I negotiate a lot in Tijuana but my Spanish is bad, so if what they ask for isn't super common (talked about in the forum) then I just pay it. I also got a hotel far an 5 min uber ride away. It was 35 or so a night and it was heads and tails better. I had great air con, tv had English channels, WiFi worked in my room, I had a blanket and my bed was comfortable and didn't smell of smoke.
Uber is not technically legal in Colombia. What you want to do is call for an uber ride and sit in the front seat. Act like a friend is picking you up. If you put in your destination for uber you don't need to talk to the drivers. The normal taxi drivers will take you the wrong way for 30 minutes to get more money or sit in one spot while you try to tell them where you want to go for like 15 minutes. I def suggest uber. There are lots of places that have WiFi so you could use WiFi to call for uber, but I'd suggest getting a sim card before you get here or do roaming or something.
I think hotel Botero is great for 20 year old who are on a budget or pros who can get better rooms / treatment but for me, I'd much rather just get a comfortable place and uber around. It's only like 10 or 20 bucks more a night with 2-3 bucks for an uber ride. I'm trying out an AirBnb place on my next trip at the end of the month.
My current price list. Hope it helps. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong as it will save me and possibly others some cash and prevent wreaking the game.
Casas: 50 k or less for 30 minutes. 50 k for add ONS (energy is suppose to be better but more expensive) (I like new life).
Facebook: 150 k to 250 k. I'm not sure if that's per hour or for the whole night. Also not sure what adds on cost (never tried but will try next trip).
Street girls: I heard like 30 k per pop and it's like 20 k for the hotel? (never tried but will try next trip).
Dance clubs: Heard it's all over the place. Some ask for like 300 k+ for an hour and some are like 150 k for the night? (never tried but will try next trip). Apparently gusto nightclub is expensive and the way to negotiate is getting them alone and asking rather than in front of their friends.
Colleges: So this is a new one I just thought up. Might as well go to the source yeah? I'm almost 40 but still look in my early to mid 20's for some reason so I figured I wouldn't look too out of place.
If you are going to be using your phone to translate, I've found the best way is ask / communicate before entering the room and the time starts. Like do you have any specialties, or I like it when girls moan or lick my ear or something. Otherwise you might just get a starfish and "just the tip" refers to her BJ skills.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2233578]I've only been to Colombia once. I've shacked up at Hotel Botero once. Botero is located is a pretty good spot. It's walkable distance for a lot of mongering locations. The hotel staff did speak English. That being said.
The room smelled of smoke (prob just the room they gave me and most of the rooms were prob okay). There were no blankets, it was just a sheet but the AC either wasn't working or wasn't working well. I saw a roaches there. On my first day there, I didn't do nearly enough research and just tried to walk around and find some goodies. I was only able to find trans girls and the club I went to close by had like 4's and 5's. I got cheated at the club (paid up front, girl said BBBJ but tried to put a rubber on me). I threw a fit and the club owner got me like half my money back. I went back to the hotel and asked the guy up front where he would go and he sold me a pile of crap about the place next door. Sex was a little below average and with a 5. (cost was like 50 k. The guy up front told me it was common place to tip 50 k just for normal stuff, so I did)..[/QUOTE]Duncan,
You are the man. Thanks for all the info and another shout-out to everyone helping me with important details. Can anyone suggest a hotel for non Spanish speaking monger. Should be chica friendly for around 50/ night? These tips are goldmine for those that have never been to Colombia.
Also, can someone shed light on Medellin internet prepagos, like miloeroticos, pasion, etc. Are the ads authentic. How is the service? Some of the websites show ads for 60 k. Is this a flake?
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233291]Wonderful suggestion about getting whatapp numbers. Any other tips would be much appreciated. Also, for various reasons, I am unable to invest time in Facebook, CC or SA before the trip.
My budget is only for food and drinks, doesn't include price for lodging. The reason I am mulling a side trip to Bogota is because some trip reports indicate without facebook, SA and CC, there may not be much success for a newbie without Spanish skills in the bars or casas in el centro.
Perhaps I might have better luck in Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]30 minutes is usually fairly strict. However, at New Life you pay after, for however long you spent. They have the price list posted in the waiting area. Most of the other places you pay in advance.
Energy Spa is more expensive. I believe the 1 hour full service session is still 150 k. It's usually worth a visit. They are closed on Sundays and holidays. Best lineup seems to be Friday and Saturday.
If lack of Spanish will cause you problems with street girls in Medellin, it will cause you the same problems in Bogota. Depending on your age and fitness, Bogota might give you some problems. Some people complain about the altitude.
You won't have difficulty in the casas, especially the more popular ones. They all get a lot of tourists who don't speak Spanish.
Hotel Botero has seen better days, according to what some guys have told me. It's convenient to the action, but not exactly luxurious. While you're at M1 I recommend getting another guest to take you and show you around El Centro. Visit a few hotels while you are there and decide before you book.
Go to the Medellin Lists thread on the bottom half of the Colombia forum page. Look for the link to the Medellin map and to the accompanying PDF file which lists all the casa names and addresses. Before you leave your room, write down the address on a piece of paper and hand it to the taxi driver. You don't need the name, because the driver won't know the name.
There's no need to tip the taxi drivers. You'll just confuse them. What I do from time to time is give them the leftover coins. Use your 50 k bills in stores and bigger restaurants in order to get smaller bills. Taxis and smaller restaurants may not be able to make change.
There's also no need to tip at most restaurants. Often you'll see a 10% propina added to the total. This is a voluntary tip. Just pay it. Often the waiter will ask you "esto incluye servicio?" (Does this include the tip?
Restaurants may be difficult for you. Once you are seated a waiter may come and tell you the menu of the day, or bring a menu. They probably won't return, until you flag them down. Once they bring your food, they won't return, until you flag them down. Get used to it.
[QUOTE=WestFlDude;2233008]Best place in my opinion would be to go out the airport and walk directly (a few traffic lanes) of across to the shopping and food court area. There, in air conditioned and less hectic space and on the second floor you can look across to the baggage area and have Wi-Fi. The second person merely goes to baggage claim walks out the door and across the way into the windows where the food court is. Coffee etc and is where if needed you can buy si, card.[/QUOTE]Thanks to FunLuv, RobertTX, West FL Dude & IamLookin for response.
If flights are on time, we'll meet at the exit after customs for international. If one flight is late, we'll use the shopping area across the street. I am assuming the airport has Wifi so the two of us can connect on WhatsApp if lost.
Thanks again gents.
Will it work with iPhone?
[QUOTE=Balimassage;2233116]Nope, this link is correct.
[URL]https://amzn.to/2IAt3pZ[/URL]
It works just fine in my iPhone, and yes it is only data. New countries are added all the time, and I assure you Colombia is on the list as this is the exact card I'm using. It has also worked fine in Hong Kong, USA, Canada, and Panama. The link you gave is the one month version of the same product, which I'm sure works fine, but the 12-month version is like having an unlimited world SIM in your pocket for a year. One year 12 GB is $50 data only. Your link, 30 days 12 GB is $30. If you need that much data per month then the $30 is cheaper. If you use about 1 GB / week traveling like I do, then the one year is awesome. I keep a backup handy too, never know when a Europe trip is going to pop up, and $3/ GB is cheaper than just about any local SIM I've ever used.
It also receives SMS's as I've used the number to activate various services that require a number.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2217798][URL]http://www.candyhousemedellin.com/[/URL]
It is in Manila but they charge 250,000 pesos. I haven't been there but I was intending to go check it out. Good reviews on a local board.[/QUOTE]Looks very good and also as you mention, good reports on local forums. Anyone tried? The account on twitter has nice pictures at candyhousemed.
The girls on reviews are more from 25 and up, and seems not natural, but they look very good.
Hotel Dorado la 70.
Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medellín, Antioquia, Colombia.
Any reviews? Location ratings?
Is this chica friendly.
Can I walk around this area?
[QUOTE=Luminous;2233983]Will it work with iPhone?[/QUOTE]I'm quite sure your iphone has to be unlocked for any other sim card to work in it.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2233882]Thanks to FunLuv, RobertTX, West FL Dude & IamLookin for response.[/QUOTE]Don't even think to arrange a meeting in a large airport as SIN, LAX, ATL, AMS, CDG,. If for MDE you thought to set up such a complex plan.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2234028]Hotel Dorado la 70.
Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia.
Any reviews? Location ratings?
Is this chica friendly.
Can I walk around this area?[/QUOTE]I am currently living 5 minutes walk from the hotel you mentioned. If you want I can just walk in there and ask about being chica friendly.
The surrounding streets and location is filled with restaurants, ATMs, drug stores, grocery stores and quite easy to access anything you need.
Given that said, during night time there will be party going on all over places and loud music as well. Very lively environment and safe. You will hear the music inside your hotel too. Personally I prefer this kind of environment because of my young age and lot of chicas to pick up and ask for date during day and night time. As the chicas here are not regular street girls. It might depend on your looks and language skills. Let me know if you need any more information around this place.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2233622]Duncan,
You are the man. Thanks for all the info and another shout-out to everyone helping me with important details. Can anyone suggest a hotel for non Spanish speaking monger. Should be chica friendly for around 50/ night? These tips are goldmine for those that have never been to Colombia.
Also, can someone shed light on Medellin internet prepagos, like miloeroticos, pasion, etc. Are the ads authentic. How is the service? Some of the websites show ads for 60 k. Is this a flake?[/QUOTE]You can try San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 A. Despite the name they're setup more like a hotel with a front desk that has at least 2 English speaking employees. Rooms are around $40 a night and they're definitely chica friendly. I stayed there for week without any problems.
I recently tried out Ambar (or Amber) on photoprepagos: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/sexo-placer-sudor-penetraciones-y-mucho-morbo-te-daran-el-placer-que-buscas-id-rwdcj[/URL].
140,000 an hour which included BBJ and GFE. She operates out of a residential house in Laureles that apparently serves as a brothel, as I saw and heard other girls during my visit. She's as cute as her photos I'm happy to report. However, like a lot of pros she really tries to rush things, trying to get you to nut as quickly as possible, which is great if you like fast and furious, but I take awhile to finish so I kept having to tell her to slow down. I've gotten better experiences from Facebook girls for the same price so I probably wouldn't repeat.
Any and all phones have to be unlocked before you can use a "foreign" SIM. Foreign SIM means a SIM card that was not issued by the service provider (T-Mobile, Vodafone, A&T, Claro, Tigo, etc.) that subsidized the phone. If you travel internationally on a regular basis, an unlocked phone is very helpful.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2234164]I'm quite sure your iphone has to be unlocked for any other sim card to work in it.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2234028]Hotel Dorado la 70.
Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia.
Any reviews? Location ratings?
Is this chica friendly.
Can I walk around this area?[/QUOTE]This hotel is located in the middle of the the La 70 area of Laureles. It is a good area where you can walk around day or night. Noise may be a problem, especially on weekends when the bars are open late. I would expect it to be a very nice hotel. The lobby looks nice. I would not expect it to be chica friendly. There are lots of restaurants and bars within walking distance. This is also walking distance to the Estadio metro station.
[QUOTE=Talon;2234308]You can try San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 A. Despite the name they're setup more like a hotel with a front desk that has at least 2 English speaking employees. Rooms are around $40 a night and they're definitely chica friendly. I stayed there for week without any problems.
I recently tried out Ambar (or Amber) on photoprepagos: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/sexo-placer-sudor-penetraciones-y-mucho-morbo-te-daran-el-placer-que-buscas-id-rwdcj[/URL].
140,000 an hour which included BBJ and GFE. She operates out of a residential house in Laureles that apparently serves as a brothel, as I saw and heard other girls during my visit. She's as cute as her photos I'm happy to report. However, like a lot of pros she really tries to rush things, trying to get you to nut as quickly as possible, which is great if you like fast and furious, but I take awhile to finish so I kept having to tell her to slow down. I've gotten better experiences from Facebook girls for the same price so I probably wouldn't repeat.[/QUOTE]Thank you Talon. Is there a safe in the hotel room?
[QUOTE=JanuaryNineth;2234288]I am currently living 5 minutes walk from the hotel you mentioned. If you want I can just walk in there and ask about being chica friendly.
The surrounding streets and location is filled with restaurants, ATMs, drug stores, grocery stores and quite easy to access anything you need.
Given that said, during night time there will be party going on all over places and loud music as well. Very lively environment and safe. You will hear the music inside your hotel too. Personally I prefer this kind of environment because of my young age and lot of chicas to pick up and ask for date during day and night time. As the chicas here are not regular street girls. It might depend on your looks and language skills. Let me know if you need any more information around this place.[/QUOTE]Almost all places I have looked at have loud music issues. I guess I am not too much bothered by it, safety and accessibility to casas and strip clubs are the bigger priorities. Please find out about being chica friendly if you have a few minutes.
Any other hotel recommendations with English speaking staff, either nearby or near Poblado would be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=RmblinMan;2232354]My current fascination is with rimjobs and prostate massage in conjunction with the the usual activities. Are these something that most working girls will agree to or am I setting myself up for disappointment? Should I expect to pay extra and how much?[/QUOTE]Most girls probably won't agree to it, but many will.
I am assuming all girls who do rimjobs will agree to do a prostate massage (I don't let anyone put their finger up my ass). The following refers to rimming, but the prostate stuff should be included.
In New Life, some girls will say yes. Not sure of the percentages. The girls might ask for 50 K tip for BBBJ and rimming. The girls at the casa ask for more tips than the SWs.
It'll be easier to get it from the SWs in El Centro. Ask the girls on the street intersection. It seems they are more desperate than the girls next to the short time guesthouses, which acts more like a casa brothel. Many of the girls on the intersection will say yes to BBBJ and rimming without having to offer a tip. Of course, some will seek a tip. 10 K or 20 K tip should be sufficient.
If you say, "Culo?" to the girls, they understand that as rimming. Some of the girls you can get are decent. Of course many are below average; it should be easier to get the below average girls to do your kind of stuff.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2233882]If one flight is late, we'll use the shopping area across the street.[/QUOTE]Why the hell would you want to do that for? Why would you want to leave the airport?
Across the street? Across from the airport? When you leave the airport, you cross the traffic lane, and then you head into the parking lot. Where is the shopping area across the street? Do you have to leave the airport?
I would just meet at the loft that contains the food court. You can get drinks / coffee. But I didn't suggest it because there might be 2 food courts. Can't really remember.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2234455]... If you say, "Culo?" to the girls, they understand that as rimming. Some of the girls you can get are decent. Of course many are below average; it should be easier to get the below average girls to do your kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2234501]You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.[/QUOTE]LOL. Exactly. Instead, he should be asking for besos negros.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2234501]You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. If you ask the girl "culo?", I think she will think you want to screw her in the ass.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your correction. We have the same meaning of rimming. I read that "black kiss" (or as Mr E said "besos negros") is the term to use.
I "learned" that term from couple of girls. In the room, they said "culo". They also said "culito".
I normally say, "oral solo", "leche en la boca", and "culo". And I also point. It seems to work most of the time. But with some girls, after I start to ask those questions, they say something like, I only speak Spanish. I think to myself, I am fuckin speaking Spanish! LOL!
The girls also seem to understand when I ask, "lesbian? dos chicas?" and "lesbian culo?".
Go to the Medellin Lists thread on the bottom half of the Colombia forum page. Look for the link to the Medellin map and to the accompanying PDF file which lists all the casa names and addresses. Before you leave your room, write down the address on a piece of paper and hand it to the taxi driver. You don't need the name, because the driver won't know the name.
I am able to get access to the map but unable to get the PDF. I do not have subscription and not able to get one now.
Is there anyway newbies can access the list? Would someone be kind enough to post contents on the list on this thread?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2234501]You must have a different meaning of rimming than I understand it to mean. I think it means the girl licks your asshole. [/QUOTE]I never have to say a word. They always start the session in BJ mode with me laying on my back, when they move down to my balls, I lift my legs to expose my ass. They immediately know what to do and they start licking my ass.
Had an amazing trip to Medellin. This time stayed at Provenza Lofts in Park Lleras instead of mansion. Wanted to do facebook scene. Flight was delayed by half an hour. Landed at 1230 am. My hotel pick up didn't show up. Had to take private taxi as there was no white taxi available at 1 am. Reached hotel at 2 am. Room was very nice.
Met my first girl. Jennifer came over at 230 am. She has very pretty face and most beautiful eyes you can imagine. Pure GFE experience. But she is not slim. She is actually on heavier side, but very curvaceous. I saw her on my last trip also. * so there was an connection and more over she showed up at 230 am. Nobody else would.
Day 1- had set up appointment with Nataly. She was supposed to show up at 1130 but she came at 130 pm. Whole two hours late. She is very beautiful. More beautiful than her pics, slim and amazing attitude. We had some crazy fun in zaccuzi and ordered pizza. Spent couple of hours together. Not* a time watcher at all.
In the evening had another appointment with my last trip favorite Luisa. She is an engineer and speaks decent English. She is the best girl I ever had and enjoy her company so much. May be its the language barrier with other girls. Luisa is also by far the most beautiful girl I saw on the trip. May be I am biased. But she is very slim, amazing hair, her looks are similar to Cindy Crawford daughter. Anyways had the best time ever and she is the reason I came back to Medellin. In the night, went to Parque Lleras. It was full of people. Went to a club called hacienda. They were offering free beer to just come in. Went in, liked a girl. Talked to her. She wanted 400 mil. I said I can pay 150 mil. She declined. Gave an counter offer of 200 max and she came down to 300 mil. But I was not that much interested as I was tired from night before and decided to call it quits.
Day 3 - I had invited Luisa back again in the morning at 930 as the plan was to have fun and then she can take me for the tour of Medellin. As always had an amazing session. After that we went to fruit market and then did cable car and then comuna 13 tour. Came back to apartment in the after noon and one more session.
In the evening I had lined up a girl thru la Vanee. Her name was Daniella. Her pics are gorgeous. She was right on time at 7 pm. * she is very beautiful but silicone. She was complete professional and mechanical. Seemed like rush. I didn't had a good time. In the night, I had lined up another facebook girl named maria she came highly reviewed by fellow board members. She came on time at 11 am and stayed till almost 2 am. We had two wonderful sessions. She has some baby damage and not one of the most beautiful. But she makes an effort to please you a lot. Had a super time with her. I wanted to hit the clubs later but was so tired that I decided to call it a night.
Day 3 - had lined up Luisa Ramirez at 930 am. She was on time. She is 20 but had the silicone. I didn't knew that. The session started good but noticed foul odour. Sent her back. Second disappointment of the tour.
Had planned a trip to Gautape. Will skip details here. Came back and had lined up a girl named Valentina from facebook. Slim beautiful but has some baby damage. Very much GFE. Had good time with her. 2 rounds. And done for night. BTW she is studying law. 19. Loves music.
Day 4- had invited Paulina from facebook. Slim beautiful. She is very pretty. Lots of tattoo. Had a great time with her too.
Had two rounds and was done for the trip.
Going back flights cancelled and had to go thru longer route.
For all the girls, I paid 250 mil including tips and taxi other than Luisa.
All had BBBJ agreed before and lots of kissing except Daniella that was a disappointment.
Mostly were on time or delay of max 20-30 minutes except one Nataly.
I think knowing Spanish enhances your experience a lot but without Spanish its still fun.
Used ATM for drawing money. Caja social in Parque Lleras. No ATM charge. My td bank did charge 3.5 % but no foreign ATM fee but still much better than money exchange places. Almost got 2275 per cad.
I am adding pics for you all.
I would never dare to request any BM seniors to write a newbie guide like Routard's Bogota writeup. That piece is a bible.
My ask:
Top 10 must visit strip clubs, Casas and massage places for a first timer? Just the names please.
The map thanks to WorldTravel69 already gives us the addresses and approximate pricing.
I will be much interested in meeting up with BMs who are in Medellin in the first week of November. Anyone at Mansion on the 1st Nov?
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2234620]But with some girls, after I start to ask those questions, they say something like, I only speak Spanish. I think to myself, I am fuckin speaking Spanish! LOL![/QUOTE]This mostly happens to me in the US when initially talking to Spanish speakers and it happens when initially speaking with Thais in Thailand. I think it is more so that they are not listening and are only anticipating that you do not and are not speaking their language.
Speaking of anticipation, it absolutely drives me crazy when meeting Dumbminican chicks online. The first thing I say is Hola. Que estas haciendo? Literally 99% of the time they will respond only saying Hola as if they didn't see the question, or by answering the wrong question and answering bien y tu. I have come to the conclusion that they must be anticipating what I am saying instead of just fucking reading it.
Thanks for the report. Great job.
I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2234887]I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is one hotel called Benhamar in front of the lake. And there are many other hotels within walking distance. Boat ride and Zip lining right there.
Main church and city square where shops and discos are within walking distance. The rock (el penol) is a good 600+ steps walk to the top. There are juice bars at the top.
Enjoy!
I personally think it is worth staying the night. I don't have experience with a hotel but there are a ton of amazing Airbnb houses around. Get up the next day and climb el penol. Great side trip from Medellin.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2234887]I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.
Thanks.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2234887]I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? In either case I plan to bring one of my fb girl friends with me.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]About 2 years ago I stayed at Hotel LOS Recuerdos. It's about 10 minutes away from the town square, closer to The Rock. I asked for a quiet room and they gave me one facing the lake. Great pool and good restaurant. Go into town and get a boat tour around the lake (bring rain gear or at least a sweat shirt). And climb La Roca. I'm in my 60's, so it was a tough climb but the view was worth it.
I would stay there again.
Really liking Medellin, the place is beautiful in places and the people are so friendly even if you don't speak Spanish.
I staying in an air BnB apartment just off calle 33 in Laureles and it's good here. Visited El Poblado yesterday and wasn't a fan, too busy, although more people speak English.
I probably won't come back until I speak some Spanish though. It's not much of a problem with the chicas, they are happy to use Google translate as long as you give them some alcohol and let them put some music on.
I have been to Thailand over 10 times now and got sick of the Thai women, not only do they not have the curvy bodies I prefer but the service off them gets worse every year.
Not only have I found the Colombian women to be better looking but more friendly, way sexier and better in bed. Only been with three so far so maybe I've been lucky.
All three have been Facebook girls, tried to go to El Centro yesterday but loads roads were closed, some kind of March and I couldn't get there, ended up having the taxi turn around. Will go tomorrow now.
First girl I met was called Monica Alejandra, she was really pretty and spoke decent English. Was a bit bigger than her pictures but still gorgeous. Really nice body, gave BBBJ and good sex. Paid all them 200 plus taxi.
Second girl is called Manuela Florez on Facebook and she was great. Probably best looking girl I've been with although she doesn't speak English.
Really smiley, sexy and you can tell she is a party girl. Great body and good sex again. BBBJ without asking too.
Third girl was called Paula Andrea Garcia on Facebook. Really pretty face and lovely personality, speaks good English just she was petite whereas I like curvier women. Good sex though, recommend to anyone who likes petite women.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2234673]This mostly happens to me in the US when initially talking to Spanish speakers and it happens when initially speaking with Thais in Thailand. I think it is more so that they are not listening and are only anticipating that you do not and are not speaking their language.
Speaking of anticipation, it absolutely drives me crazy when meeting Dumbminican chicks online. The first thing I say is Hola. Que estas haciendo? Literally 99% of the time they will respond only saying Hola as if they didn't see the question, or by answering the wrong question and answering bien y tu. I have come to the conclusion that they must be anticipating what I am saying instead of just fucking reading it.[/QUOTE]Yes mindboggling. They do it. It lets me know they are busy working their multitude of messengers or that they are lazy or lack skills. Can be a red flag.
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2234651]
Day 3 - had lined up Luisa Ramirez at 930 am. She was on time. She is 20 but had the silicone. I didn't knew that. The session started good but noticed foul odour. Sent her back. Second disappointment of the tour.
[/QUOTE]The sillicone must be new and when we met her boobs were really small. I like(ed) Luisa, she was a sweet girl. The first and only time we met she entered and immediately started looking through my fridge for food. I made her something to eat and she talked with her mouth full and ate like a little pig, albeit a cute one. No smell that night and she was fun. The dealbreaker was that she was then on a date in Poblado, posted fotos and a story during it, and tried to arrange a date with me on her way back home. She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.
Forgot to add when Manuela left she got her mum to pick her up in a taxi as she works near my condo, that was weird enough then she asked me to come down and introduced me to her. God knows who she thought I was.
Her mum was hot though haha.
Gentlemen,
World Travel 69 has struck again. He has posted a good list of casas, massages and clubs along with pricing and some location info. In the maps and lists thread.
Thank you World Travel 69.
I travel to Medellin once a month. And, for the most part, I have settled in with a few girls who give me the service I want for a fair price. None of them are models, but they are cute "girl next door" types who are very good in bed. Every trip I always try one or two news ones. Just to see if someone can break the line-up for the future.
I went out on Saturday night and got back to my apartment around 3:30 am Or so. I was just about ready to go to bed when I got a message from a chica I met once before. She is a non-pro. I can't remember if I met her on Cupido or on Facebook. BUt we went out once before. Had dinner. And enjoyed the jacuzzi (although no sex). We were supposed to see again, but she flaked on me because I have so many putas on my facebook page (guilty). Recently we had talked a little, but had made no plans to see. So anyway, the girl asks if she can come to my apartment and bring her cousin. I thought about it and said sure, why not. So she shows up from Bellow with her cousin. She is a dancer (trained, not stripper) and has a nice tight body. She has a little body hair, but nothing unusual for a Colombian. Her cousin was a gordita. She had a pretty face, but she was pretty fat. Ugh.
Anyway, we have a few rum and cokes and waited until the jacuzzi could be used (6 am). So we eventually got in the jacuzzi and stayed there for several hours. Girls got drunk. I did not bother. The fat chick was strange. At first she tried to seduce me, even though she knows I like her cousin and her cousin likes me. I wanted nothing to do with her. But as she drank, she turned lesbian and starting trying to feel up her cousin. The cousin didn't like it, but you could tell she was a little intimidated so she would let it happen a little before she pushed back. I have no problem with lesbian shit, but this girl is just too fat. I could not enjoy it. But the good news is that my dancer got a little horny and turned to me. You could tell she was not sure what she wanted. She wanted something but kept holding back. I got some kisses. Some nipple. And some groping. Finally things heated up and we went to the bedroom. The dancer performed for us for several songs. Her body looked better than ever when she was dancing. And finally she fucked me. I most definitely enjoyed it, but it was such a strange experience. The cousin was constantly tell her how sexy she was and how much she liked her body. And she kept touching her ass and kissing her back as she was fucking me. Super weird!
I hope to see the dancer again, but I am not going to permit her fat cousin to come. Just too weird for me. At noon I finally had to send them packing. I paid their taxi to Bello and gave them some money (70 mil, I think) to buy some lunch. In the end, I got laid by a chica with a food body who wanted to bang me. But the experience with the cousin was definitely odd.
I know Manuela / Enlly well. And her mom too. Her mom knows exactly what she does for money. Although mom has a legitimate (albeit low-paying) job and does not work. Mom is 38, I think, and yes, she's pretty hot for her age. Although she is an intense woman who talks a lot.
I am surprised they did not ask you to buy them both dinner. Manuela knows how to work it. No doubt about it. But she does have a good personality and a nice body. Personally, I never had good chemistry with her. Not my type in bed. But she works for others. And she's fun to go out with.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2235028]Forgot to add when Manuela left she got her mum to pick her up in a taxi as she works near my condo, that was weird enough then she asked me to come down and introduced me to her. God knows who she thought I was.
Her mum was hot though haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2235010]
The sillicone must be new and when we met her boobs were really small. I like(ed) Luisa, she was a sweet girl. The first and only time we met she entered and immediately started looking through my fridge for food. I made her something to eat and she talked with her mouth full and ate like a little pig, albeit a cute one. No smell that night and she was fun. The dealbreaker was that she was then on a date in Poblado, posted fotos and a story during it, and tried to arrange a date with me on her way back home. She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.[/QUOTE]Yes the silicone were new. 3 months old. I think she was on her periods. Big turn off.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2235000]Third girl was called Paula Andrea Garcia on Facebook. Really pretty face and lovely personality, speaks good English just she was petite whereas I like curvier women. Good sex though, recommend to anyone who likes petite women.[/QUOTE]I was also planning to see Paula Andrea Garcia but was not sure. Was there any baby damage?
Enjoy rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2235091]I was also planning to see Paula Andrea Garcia but was not sure. Was there any baby damage?
Enjoy rest of your trip.[/QUOTE]You could see a little bit of stretch marks on her stomach when up close, but apart from that her body was good.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2235084]I know Manuela / Enlly well. And her mom too. Her mom knows exactly what she does for money. Although mom has a legitimate (albeit low-paying) job and does not work. Mom is 38, I think, and yes, she's pretty hot for her age. Although she is an intense woman who talks a lot.
I am surprised they did not ask you to buy them both dinner. Manuela knows how to work it. No doubt about it. But she does have a good personality and a nice body. Personally, I never had good chemistry with her. Not my type in bed. But she works for others. And she's fun to go out with.[/QUOTE]Yeah can imagine she's fun to go out with but expensive I bet. You can tell she's a party girl.
Seen two more Facebook girls yesterday.
First one was Sheyla Jmnz. She is a webcam girl.
She doesn't seem like a typical Colombian girl. She doesn't like to party, doesn't like salsa or reggaeton and likes watching nature documentaries LOL.
She is quite tall, skinny, pretty face, nice ass but not very big and small but perky breasts.
She was good in bed and a nice girl.
Second girl I took was Daniela Morales. Again a nice girl but I didn't click with her. Even though I don't speak Spanish I've still been able to get along with the girls but found it hard with Daniela.
Perhaps this was due to her age, she is only 21. Looks wise she has a pretty face, nice ass and big silicone breasts (I prefer natural).
The sex was OK but she was very tight and I had to take it slow at first. She then got on top and rode me quite well.
Overall was a decent experience that I would not repeat. If you like pretty girls with silicone and a tight pussy you might enjoy her though.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2234887]I will plan to be in Medellin next month for a little more than a week. I was thinking of going to Guatape and bring along a chica. Any experience out there with hotels?
Is it worth staying overnight? [/QUOTE]My wife's family was in town last week, and I took them to Guatape for the day. Obviously I had less reason to want to stay the night, haha, but makes a nice, reasonable day trip as well. Couple hours there, couple hours back, stops along the way.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2235010]She hangs with a group of marginals from Bello, the ring leader is Dulce Ruiz, a shady girl that tries to farm out her group of average looking friends. Dulce was a dud in the sack and tried to steal from me. It was all I could do to get her to leave without a fight.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity. What did she try to steal? How'd you catch her?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2232378]150-250 depending on what you want. (anal, BBBJCIM, video etc.) also depends on how hot the girl is I noticed the ones in high demand won't budge off 250.[/QUOTE]Based on my interaction with them. This is about right. To each their own in the end of course, but if you are in this range and stick to your guns, you will get what you are looking for. Some of these girls call any random price sometimes, if their "gullible gringo" radar goes off. If they do it to often, they lose out and very quickly go back to the lower end. They like to play that game. And too many desperate gringos fall for it.
Great report Vicky. Thank you. Might you be willing to share some of the facebook names with us? Would greatly appreciate.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2235279]Seen two more Facebook girls yesterday.
First one was Sheyla Jmnz. She is a webcam girl.
She doesn't seem like a typical Colombian girl. She doesn't like to party, doesn't like salsa or reggaeton and likes watching nature documentaries LOL.
She is quite tall, skinny, pretty face, nice ass but not very big and small but perky breasts.
She was good in bed and a nice girl.
Second girl I took was Daniela Morales. Again a nice girl but I didn't click with her. Even though I don't speak Spanish I've still been able to get along with the girls but found it hard with Daniela.
Perhaps this was due to her age, she is only 21. Looks wise she has a pretty face, nice ass and big silicone breasts (I prefer natural).
The sex was OK but she was very tight and I had to take it slow at first. She then got on top and rode me quite well..[/QUOTE]Brooooooooo! Thank you! I have both of them in my inbox daily! Like 30 messages a day back and fourth! We must like the same kind of girls! They are very similar! Glad you posted this! BBBJ? Price? So far neither of them have mentioned money "yet" but I arrive in a few days so I'm sure the convo is coming! They both are trying to act like they are regular non pro girls. I even opened the convo about sex and they both just talked about positions and sent me pictures. I sent the $sign with a question mark and both ignored the opportunity to say yes I'm a paid cum **** LOL oh well. Give the details and what they asked for please? I'm prepared to pay but I guess I have to force the conversation LOL.
Planning a first time trip to Medellin Colombia end of month, want to get my bearings. I am totally zero Spanish- hopefully this would not be a big issue?
Read 10+ pages + the list+ the PDF, still lots of doubts.
Reading about Facebook and Tinder and all that- is that all necessary? I can use WhatsApp or Text. Assuming SIM cards are easy to get?
Also seeing you can just go a bar, club or Massage place. If you can go to bar and pick a chic. That would be easiest and best (for me). Do we not get girls of the same quality or price, or any of other issues.
What are typical prices, I understand it can vary. What is the general baseline range?
I understand Col. Peso, what is KCOP?
Any other advice- hotel location, bars, clubs?
Thanks.
Sam.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2235426]Great report Vicky. Thank you. Might you be willing to share some of the facebook names with us? Would greatly appreciate.[/QUOTE]You can PM me for specific contact.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2235542]Planning a first time trip to Medellin Colombia end of month, want to get my bearings. I am totally zero Spanish- hopefully this would not be a big issue?
Read 10+ pages + the list+ the PDF, still lots of doubts.
Reading about Facebook and Tinder and all that- is that all necessary? I can use WhatsApp or Text. Assuming SIM cards are easy to get?
Also seeing you can just go a bar, club or Massage place. If you can go to bar and pick a chic. That would be easiest and best (for me). Do we not get girls of the same quality or price, or any of other issues.
What are typical prices, I understand it can vary. What is the general baseline range?.[/QUOTE]KCOP is thousand Colombian pesos. Very, very roughly 3000 COP (3 k cop) is $1 US. So instead of writing 150,000, most will write 150 k, 150 k cop or just 150, which is roughly $50. If the $ is included, assume that's US dollars.
150 k is your baseline price for Facebook, Tinder or other online girls. Some will be higher, some will be lower. Girls in casas usually cost 50 k for 30 minutes. There are minor variations, and a few places where the price is much higher.
Strip clubs typically the charge is 80 k in El Centro, 180 k at Fase Dos and 300 k at La Isla. Street girls generally ask for 30-50 k. Other bars, varies widely. At Gusto they might ask from $100 to $300, or you might find one for 200 k. In El Centro bars can be from 40 k to 100 k.
Lots of guys are zero Spanish. It's an issue, but it's an issue you can overcome. You'll have some difficulty. You should be able to work around it.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2235500]Brooooooooo! Thank you! I have both of them in my inbox daily! Like 30 messages a day back and fourth! We must like the same kind of girls! They are very similar! Glad you posted this! BBBJ? Price? So far neither of them have mentioned money "yet" but I arrive in a few days so I'm sure the convo is coming! They both are trying to act like they are regular non pro girls. I even opened the convo about sex and they both just talked about positions and sent me pictures. I sent the $sign with a question mark and both ignored the opportunity to say yes I'm a paid cum **** LOL oh well. Give the details and what they asked for please? I'm prepared to pay but I guess I have to force the conversation LOL.[/QUOTE]I've just offered every girl 200 and they've accepted. Could have maybe got them cheaper, who knows.
Both gave BBBJ.
Have a good trip.
Seen a girl called Yennifer Taborda last night.
Really pretty girl with a nice body.
She brought a few blunts so I shared one with her then got down to business.
Good BBJ, nice pussy and good fuck. First time I cum, she put on Google translate I am going for a smoke then I want some more.
Really enjoyed myself, she kept rubbing her clit when we were fucking, she was either very into it or a good actress.
Again paid her 200.
Today I seen a girl off photoprepagos. Sorry I forgot her name, she was Venezuelan.
Decent fuck, not amazing. She had a pretty face, decent tiys and nice ass. Had chunky legs and a bit of a belly but I don't mind curvy women.
Paid 150 for her to come to me, would have been 120 if I travelled to her place in Belen.
Waiting on another Facebook chica coming over now.
Travelled to El Centro yesterday but wasn't really my scene.
Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.
First Night.
I went out to the famous Park Ileres and Gustos, but first I had nice dinner at restaurant called Triada I believe, its on the same street as Skybar. I was fearful of the unknown food, but it was surprisingly good there, and the dessert was amazing. I can only recommend this place.
So anyways I went to the gringo club Gustos just to see what high quality looks like in Colombia. I payed 10 k at the door and took a lift to the 4th or 3 the floor. The place looked modern and spacious playing American music but its have empty. Many girls were standing by the them self dressed to impress, it kinda reminded of some Dubai clubs. They girls out number the men by 3-1 maybe, many of them pass as hot between 7 to 8 on my scale, almost no 10, others are 6 or 5. Just to clarify, a 10 in my book is slim waist, big round ass with a pretty young face, slim girl with no curves or fake boobs is a 6 in my book, big breast not so important. And what do you know the girls ask the same prices here as the top notch clubs of Dubai LOL. First girl I approached was a tall brunette she could speak a little English to my surprise, after a little chit-chat she told me 200-250 Dollar, I said thank you just give your number and I will think about it. She did and I moved on thinking to myself "I definitely did NOT come all the way to Colombia to pay 200 dollar when can find that price at most places in the world ". I checked a couple other girls just too see if they agree on the price, and they do ask 200-250 dollar firmely. So I told I'm sorry I don't use dollars here as this is Colombia and left the place. The place is definitely geared towards scamming tourists by asking dollars and should be avoided for the price but I still saw some guys leaving with a girls. The best walk around is probably to write down their number and make them a sane offer the next day once the get off the gringo high horse. I didn't negotiate with any of them as I'm not interested in paying anywhere near their price.
So I took an Uber to Barra Ejecutiva at about 1 am, yes I'm going around in the middle of the night on my first day in South America but I like to think of myself as seasoned traveler LOL. I just go from door to door with Uber, no walking around. The place is a strip club in downtown with private rooms upstairs, the girls are not as good looking as in Gustos, most are 5 or 6 , many older girls and some overweight. I sat down and had buy my drink because of club the policy. Soon I found pretty 7. 5-8, slim but nice curves, round ass and a gorgeous smile. She told me 180 k for session upstairs, so I took her. And man the service was top notch, she didn't complain about anything and was smiling through the whole session and listening to my terrible Spanish. After session we talked about how she came from Venezuela just two months ago. She seemed to like me or is just an extremely friendly person. Anways I give her 10/10 for the service and gave her tip as well. About 3 am I went back to Park Illeres really tired and hungry, grabbed some street food and sat in the park to enjoy the view of the street walkers, many have big asses and are young but the some of those body ratio seem off, a lot seemed plastic which I don't like so I let them go. As I was walkin to my uber I saw a really beautiful girl that looked natural and non-pro, half blond half brunette, thick with big round ass and pretty face. She was rushing through the streets alone. And I was not sure if she was a working girl or not but I just stopped her and said "Whats up, where are you going?" she said " What are your plans? " I told her lets go to my hotel and she said ok. Ok most of this was with the help off google translator and some phrases I learned. I took her to the Mansion at about 3. 40 am, they reception guy registered her I. The which made me feel a bit safer too, no chick fee. The agreement was whole night, we went to my room and she asked for the money upfront I give her maybe 300 for the whole night. But she still remained humble and friendly, we had awesome session without a rush, after one and half hour she told me she the had a kid and needed to go, I thought to myself "not this excuse again" I felt a little betrayed but it was late and we had such a great time so I did not want to argue with her at 5 am as I was tired myself. So I let her go with a smile and she seemed happy too. That was the first night but Colombia seems promising and I love the vibes I'm getting here.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2235811]So I took an Uber to Barra Ejecutiva at about 1 am, . Soon I found pretty 7. 5-8, slim but nice curves, round ass and a gorgeous smile. She told me 180 k for session upstairs, so I took her.[/QUOTE]This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2235811]Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.
First Night.
I went out to the famous Park Ileres and Gustos, but first I had nice dinner at restaurant called Triada I believe, its on the same street as Skybar. I was fearful of the unknown food, but it was surprisingly good there, and the dessert was amazing. I can only recommend this place.
So anyways I went to the gringo club Gustos just to see what high quality looks like in Colombia. I payed 10 k at the door and took a lift to the 4th or 3 the floor..[/QUOTE]I can never fall asleep with these women in my room. You never know what can happen. Plus I don't see the logic in paying someone to cuddle. I would have smashed and to her to bounce. Just for safety purposes and money wise. It was late she probably would have taken 200 k easily for a session. But great trip so far.
I would hope it is a typo, 80 k sounds about right for that place although I personally don't recommend it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2235822]This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.[/QUOTE]
I have learned that for long term visits to make it clear that you will pay 2 different amounts One is the price she agreed upon and another is if she leaves early. At first, I was looking for all-nighters but after having sessioned various times that way, I now prefer a couple of hours before bedtime. 200 k for a couple of rounds should be enough. I have regular girls that I see now so the sessions are very intimate with me adding an additional 50 K for some for total GFE experience. Never pay upfront !!
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2235811]The agreement was whole night, we went to my room and she asked for the money upfront I give her maybe 300 for the whole night. But she still remained humble and friendly, we had awesome session without a rush, after one and half hour she told me she the had a kid and needed to go, I thought to myself "not this excuse again" I felt a little betrayed but it was late and we had such a great time so I did not want to argue with her at 5 am as I was tired myself. So I let her go with a smile and she seemed happy too. That was the first night but Colombia seems promising and I love the vibes I'm getting here.[/QUOTE]
Never pay upfront is good advice in my opinion. "I have to get back to my kid" is classic, right up there with "I have a sick relative, please send money". I don't think the all night deal is the best value for me. Others seem to like it. In a place like Medellin where you can schedule as many dates as you want until you are ready to go to bed I don't see the point other than the "morning wood" relief. It's a great deal for the providers, extra money for sleeping or hanging around an hour or two more than they would for the base rate.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2235938]I have learned that for long term visits to make it clear that you will pay 2 different amounts One is the price she agreed upon and another is if she leaves early. At first, I was looking for all-nighters but after having sessioned various times that way, I now prefer a couple of hours before bedtime. 200 k for a couple of rounds should be enough. I have regular girls that I see now so the sessions are very intimate with me adding an additional 50 K for some for total GFE experience. Never pay upfront !![/QUOTE]
You are a seasoned traveler, you get it. I'm looking forward to reading about the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2235811]Touchdown in Medellin from Miami. I booked a last minute room at the Mansion before my fligh and they charged about 370 k a night which is about 100 k above the cash price. I only booked for one night as I like to change hotels in case I don't like it. Also booked airport pickup for 70 k from the hotel as this was my first time in Colombia with almost zero Spanish. My first surprise was how far the airport is from the El Poplado about 50 min drive. The hotel looks looks classy but outdated, everything looks straight from 90's at the Mansion.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2235798]Seen a girl called Yennifer Taborda last night.
Really pretty girl with a nice body.
She brought a few blunts so I shared one with her then got down to business.
Good BBJ, nice pussy and good fuck. First time I cum, she put on Google translate I am going for a smoke then I want some more.
Really enjoyed myself, she kept rubbing her clit when we were fucking, she was either very into it or a good actress.
Again paid her 200.
[/QUOTE]Is this the taborda girl you see?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chaman;2236038]Is this the taborda girl you see?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab[/URL][/QUOTE]No this one.
[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013174540823&ref=content_filter[/URL]
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2235631]You can PM me for specific contact.[/QUOTE]I have been getting tons of requests for facebook links of the girls I met. I don't mind sharing but it should be two way street. Please send the details of your favorites too so that we can all benefit from this board.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2236038]Is this the taborda girl you see?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenny.taborda.338?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab[/URL][/QUOTE]Nope. At least based on his description. Try this one:
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013174540823[/URL]
Rumor has it she's a bit of a nymphomaniac.
Okay, I know I'm probably going to get blasted with RTFF responses to this question, but here goes. I see frequent references on this forum to Facebook girls. Can someone give me a basic tutorial on how it works, where to find them, etc? And yes, I RTFF but still don't understand it. Many thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2235662]KCOP is thousand Colombian pesos. Very, very roughly 3000 COP (3 k cop) is $1 US. So instead of writing 150,000, most will write 150 k, 150 k cop or just 150, which is roughly $50. If the $ is included, assume that's US dollars.
150 k is your baseline price for Facebook, Tinder or other online girls. Some will be higher, some will be lower. Girls in casas usually cost 50 k for 30 minutes. There are minor variations, and a few places where the price is much higher.
Strip clubs typically the charge is 80 k in El Centro, 180 k at Fase Dos and 300 k at La Isla. Street girls generally ask for 30-50 k. Other bars, varies widely. At Gusto they might ask from $100 to $300, or you might find one for 200 k. In El Centro bars can be from 40 k to 100 k.
Lots of guys are zero Spanish. It's an issue, but it's an issue you can overcome. You'll have some difficulty. You should be able to work around it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).
Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.
Sam.
It's been covered but here is the Reader's Digest version. Lady drink prices I can't comment on because I've never bought one. That is a comment of a sort. It means buying ladies drinks is optional. When in doubt, ask the price and pay as they are brought to you so you don't have to negotiate the bill after the fact. All the strip clubs have rooms on site. The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice. You can take the girl out with you for an extra fee. I think I covered everything but if not, use the search box at the upper right corner of this page and read the forum.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236120]Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).
Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.
Sam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2235822]This is a typo right? From my experience chicks in BE start at 80K and will many times go down to 60K. I think 180K is Fase 2 pricing.[/QUOTE]I think she said 80 and another 80 for the room. I might have overcharged with the room, should it be included in the first 80 ?
On my second day I woke up late still in awe with the vaste selection of beautiful in this town. If I would compare to Dubai which was one of my favorite place for diversity, I would say women are much more passionate here but the communication is easier in Dubai as english speaker.
I kept an eye on La Vane list for the day time action. I asked Vane for maybe 3 girls but she could only provide one of them, which was a 10/10 but that girl wanted for 400 for the the hour plus, now I know some of you guys here get "Por toda Noche" for 400 k so I could not accept that. Vane said she can't do anything about price some girls ask but there are some for 250 k if I wanted. Later I found out the girl had a fake ass and she was willing to go 300 k now, but I declined. Obviously the "popular" can ask for more even on the list.
At the end I went with a mixed girl with really great curves and fit round ass, judging from the the picture at least. Vane send her for 250 k, when she came to my door she was much shorter than I expected giving her petit look, I a prefer medium tall girl. She was about 22 years, short but fit, golden skin giving her that typical Brazilian look. We google translated a while first but I didn't know she was clock watcher so the the session stared later. The session itself was nothing special as she had baby damage plus she started to stress me with the time. She also tells me she had kids and needed to go on time. What is it with this young girls all having kids? So I sent her home and told Vane I'm not satisfied with her, she promised to send better next time. Thinking back tt seems to me Vane can't provide the natural, top of the notch girls. But we will see.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2236127]I think she said 80 and another 80 for the room. I might have overcharged with the room, should it be included in the first 80 ?[/QUOTE]80 should be the total, room included. If someone tried to charge me 80 k for one of those rooms for 30 minutes, I'd laugh in their face. To compare, the best love motel in the city, Motel Ibiza, charges 90 k for 6 hours with jacuzzi, stripper pole, great shower and all the fixings.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236120]Thanks, the strip club prices you mention assuming are prices fro girls (Is there any entrance fees? Are drink prices etc reasonable or there are scams - "ladies drinks" and whatever else. (need to understand the mechanics and not get unnecessarily surprised - can be a mood spoiler).
Do these places provide a place or that is all outside on your own - ST hotels etc.
Sam.[/QUOTE]I don't believe any of the El Centro strip clubs charge an entrance fee. Fase Dos charges 10 k entrance fee. Beer and drink prices in El Centro are reasonable. I think chica drinks run around 10 k. Fase Dos drinks are expensive. Every place I know of has on site rooms.
Buying lady drinks is a waste of money. In the bar and in the right be aware. Had a girl in one club try to sneak her fingers into my pocket. Had another girl manage to sneak a 50 k bill out of my pants pocket in the room. Didn't notice it until I left the room.
Hey guys,
Me and my friends are going to Colombia Medellin for the first time. Wanted to see if why'all can share some of the Facebook girls that you have had great experience with. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if we come across anyone new I'll definitely let y'all know so you can add them to list for the next visit.
And can someone please tell me how do y'all find them on Facebook. I tried searching for Medellin Columbia in Facebook and a bunch of girls come up but how do you know if they are actually working girls? Sorry I am a newbie if this is a stupid question.
For spending a weekend there, which will be a good hotel to stay? From everything I have read they charge if you bring guest with you. Is there a hotel that doesn't charge?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2236145]80 should be the total, room included. If someone tried to charge me 80 k for one of those rooms for 30 minutes, I'd laugh in their face. To compare, the best love motel in the city, Motel Ibiza, charges 90 k for 6 hours with jacuzzi, stripper pole, great shower and all the fixings.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
Its not easy to scam me when I know the market price, but this time I didn't know my bad. I guess was busy avoiding the 200 USD at Gustos LOL.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2236132]...
I kept an eye on La Vane list for the day time action. I asked Vane for maybe 3 girls but she could only provide one of them, which was a 10/10 but that girl wanted for 400 for the the hour plus, now I know some of you guys here get "Por toda Noche" for 400 k so I could not accept that. Vane said she can't do anything about price some girls ask but there are some for 250 k if I wanted. Later I found out the girl had a fake ass and she was willing to go 300 k now, but I declined. Obviously the "popular" can ask for more even on the list. ....
.[/QUOTE]What is this La Vane list?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2236124]It's been covered but here is the Reader's Digest version. Lady drink prices I can't comment on because I've never bought one. That is a comment of a sort. It means buying ladies drinks is optional. When in doubt, ask the price and pay as they are brought to you so you don't have to negotiate the bill after the fact. All the strip clubs have rooms on site. The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice. You can take the girl out with you for an extra fee. I think I covered everything but if not, use the search box at the upper right corner of this page and read the forum.[/QUOTE]"The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice" - good to know.
10 K drinks ( 3-4 $ sounds fine). Just curious what the drink prices are outside of strip clubs?prices
The massage prices were indicated at ~50K but the website of jadespapoblado says $70/30 min. Something missing?
More you know. Less the surprises and more the confidence.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2236147]Buying lady drinks is a waste of money.[/QUOTE]I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236293]I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.[/QUOTE]My guess then is that you do not have girls rim your ass very often then. To have even a hooker do that with any excitement, they need to be a bit drunk. If they are sober, they will often refuse, but get them a bit tipsy and they will bury their face in your ass without thinking twice. I find the fuck is always wilder if the girl is tipsy regardless if she is a hooker or not.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236204]What is this La Vane list?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]An overpriced waste of time.
If you search out last Vane restrepo on Facebook, you can send her a message. If it's the right girl, she'll eventually add you to a WhatsApp group, where she posts pictures of the girls she pimps. Whichever girl you want, you send a message to La Vane and she'll tell you the girl isn't available. Or the girl is double what you expected to pay, or the girl can't be there for 3 hours, which will be at least 6 hours.
It's like an escort service that no longer cares about customer satisfaction.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236206]"The prices quoted are for using them with the girl of your choice" - good to know.
10 K drinks ( 3-4 $ sounds fine). Just curious what the drink prices are outside of strip clubs?prices
The massage prices were indicated at ~50K but the website of jadespapoblado says $70/30 min. Something missing?
More you know. Less the surprises and more the confidence.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed dramatically, Jade Spa in El Poblado is the last place you want to go. The women tend to be older and less attractive and the service is not worth the price. Just as a rule of thumb, if a place has a website with prices in US dollars, they're overcharging. Last I heard they charged 150 k for 1 hour.
However, right across the street is a good place to eat shwarma.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236293]I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.[/QUOTE]If I'm going to a new place and I want to figure out the prices, available talent, best time to visit, etc. , then I might buy a drink or two to get the information. I did this at Bar Montijo in Medellin, just a block from the Parque Berrio station. Never did make it back to pull the trigger, although their small group of girls looked better than the standard El Centro strip club talent. I think it was 7 k for the little chica beer.
Bar Montijo. Transversal 49 #50-25 (or very close) 4 to 6 girls, beer 3 k, 80 k for 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Jai887;2236159]Hey guys,
Me and my friends are going to Colombia Medellin for the first time. Wanted to see if why'all can share some of the Facebook girls that you have had great experience with. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if we come across anyone new I'll definitely let y'all know so you can add them to list for the next visit.[/QUOTE]No you won't. Maybe you're the exception, but every time someone comes along asking for information and promising information in return, they never come back with the information. However, some do come back and ask for more information.
[QUOTE]And can someone please tell me how do y'all find them on Facebook. I tried searching for Medellin Columbia in Facebook and a bunch of girls come up but how do you know if they are actually working girls? Sorry I am a newbie if this is a stupid question. [/QUOTE]Well, if I was looking for girls on Facebook and I wanted to find girls in Medellin who fucked Gringos for money, I'd probably look for the girls that have a lot of gringo friends, or a lot of gringos commenting or liking their posts and pictures.
[QUOTE]For spending a weekend there, which will be a good hotel to stay? From everything I have read they charge if you bring guest with you. Is there a hotel that doesn't charge?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]You haven't read very much. If you had read more you would have discovered a few Facebook links, how to find Facebook girls and your best options for chica friendly lodging, including some options where you won't be charged extra for the chicas.
Do you know what happens when someone shares the contact info for a girl they've had a great time with? Within 4 hours someone has sent the girl a link to the forum post and now she's pissed off at the person who shared her information. Plus she gets bombarded with friend requests and a whole bunch of messages from guys trying to get her to send nude pics. In some cases, the girl shuts down her Facebook, in some cases she stops seeing gringos and in some cases she starts charging more.
To make it worse, the girls I've had a great time with, might not be what you're looking for. So I'm supposed to jeopardize my future sessions with girls that you may not be interested in?
What's in it for me? I might get the name of a new girl? If I can find over 200 in just 15 minutes a day for a few months, I can probably find anyone you come up with.
You have some options.
1. RTFF. Read the fucking forum. The questions you have, have all been asked and answered before. Everything you need, and a bunch of stuff you don't know that you need, is in the forum.
2. Hire a local guide.
It's that time of year. The University girls are half way done, they need to pony up for the semester, buy the latest iphone and generally need to suck to live.
Yennifer. 200 K.
She is a tits on legs. Super skinny with ballon like see cup tits that seperate and each have their own time zone they don't ever touch. Her face is angelic and she got a nose job to match. Fake ass as well. And of course a GIANT tattoo of a dragon across her stomach that goes around to her side. I don't get it but it's like they hide the tatto in photos and they know it is not that desired but DAMN fuck this tattooo.
Anyway, she is all business. Won't do oral naturale, won't even let me finish on her tits. I have to cum in the condom. SHe is all looks and no feeling. Her kisses weren't half bad but the fact that she was reserved bothered me. I sent her packing after we finished.
Fun fact, I fucked her best friend for free a couple years back, I was going to tell her vut decided to pass. Oh well.
Salmon. 150 K plus 100 K for a Facial, leche en boca, oral natural.
I like her, we connect. I have seen her a couple times. She is about 5 7, a little light carmel with bolt on tits like shy love. We always have fun, I know her real name and when we fuck it is like boyfriend and girlfriend. Today she let me do my favorite. A facal with a fuck to pop. I was railing her and as I am about to cum, she helps me rip off the rubber and shoot a giant 8 roper in her face, mouth, all over! She laughs half way thru because she can not belive how much is cumming out! I didn't tell her but I have been taking the cum holy grail pill cocktail and it shows!! She doesn't do faicals for everyone and you have to know her for some time. Her apartment is clean but she will NEVER see you out side of normal daytime hours (she has a family / kid etc).
Andre. 150 K.
Totaly waste of time. I had to go all rhe way to her apartment in Belen. The apartment was such a pain in the ass to navigate. She was a bait and switch. I showed up I should have gone away. Fuck! What a waste. Only cool thing is she had an egg vibrator that I was playing with and had more fun with then her. Her photo was a 8 but in person a solid 5.
Amber 200 K.
WOw, talk about a real ****! She is viisting from baranquilla for a couple months. She is about 5 1 weights 90 lbs and totally loves to fuck and get it in the face. I find out more that with my blood test she will do BB with a cream pie. I didn't cum inside cause she had a face full of make up that I wanted to mess up but she was totally open. I am soo thankful for these types. She stayed for 6 hours too all for 200 K. Good girl. Def a keeper.
PS I cleared out my inbox, sorry for all those who were trying to get thru
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2236304]My guess then is that you do not have girls rim your ass very often then. To have even a hooker do that with any excitement, they need to be a bit drunk. If they are sober, they will often refuse, but get them a bit tipsy and they will bury their face in your ass without thinking twice. I find the fuck is always wilder if the girl is tipsy regardless if she is a hooker or not.[/QUOTE]The only way this makes sense is if you were with a chick the first time and she was sober and she refused xyz. Then you were with her the second time and she was tipsy or drunk and she did xyz with excitement. You then were with her a third time; she was again sober and refused xyz. Otherwise it is working off pure assumption to say a chick will not do something if she was not drinking.
I have had plenty of hookers and non-hookers lick my ass and they were not drunk. As a matter of fact, last night I was with a particular non-pro for the first time. Another non-pro that I used to mess with hooked me up with her. She said if her friend asks, do not tell her that we used to see each other. Sure enough the chick asked how I met her and I told her to ask her friend. Anyway one thing was leading to another. She started sucking my fingers and before I knew it, she was licking my ass before even sucking my dick. The bad part about it was that I had to wake up at 5:30 am to get her home to change clothes and then drop her off at work.
There are three things that a pro and non-pro that I have seen more than once knows: 1. Do not show up to my place with make-up on, 2. Do not show up with panties on (I was driving home with one chick and I started fingering her. I said wait a minute; what are you doing with panties on? She said I know; I was going to take them off before we get there.) and 3. Do not show up drunk. I guess once again YMMV.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236366] 1. Do not show up to my place with make-up on[/QUOTE]If a girl shows up at my place without makeup, I would consider that an insult and make her put on makeup before we get down to business. I will not do any girl who is not wearing makeup. Point of principle.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236293]I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. In my mind, you buy drinks for chicks to try to kiss up to them and/or get them drunk so you can try to fuck them. Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.[/QUOTE]Guys buy drinks for hookers because we are not all cheap fucks, to each their own.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236293]I have never understood buying drinks for hookers. [/QUOTE]At a strip club if I sit and have a drink with the girl and we hang out and talk some 1st it gives me a better idea of our compatibility, how either cool / sweet / sexy / fun she might be, all which can add up to a better time in between the sheets.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2236469]Guys buy drinks for hookers because we are not all cheap fucks, to each their own.[/QUOTE]I've heard that some are actually nice people, and it's cool to show a little kindness towards them, LOL.
Like you said, to each their own, it's all a fluid situation, depending on the vibe, their attitude, etc, etc.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236366]The only way this makes sense is if you were with a chick the first time and she was sober and she refused xyz. Then you were with her the second time and she was tipsy or drunk and she did xyz with excitement. You then were with her a third time; she was again sober and refused xyz. Otherwise it is working off pure assumption to say a chick will not do something if she was not drinking.
I have had plenty of hookers and non-hookers lick my ass and they were not drunk. As a matter of fact, last night I was with a particular non-pro for the first time. Another non-pro that I used to mess with hooked me up with her. She said if her friend asks, do not tell her that we used to see each other. Sure enough the chick asked how I met her and I told her to ask her friend. Anyway one thing was leading to another. She started sucking my fingers and before I knew it, she was licking my ass before even sucking my dick. The bad part about it was that I had to wake up at 5:30 am to get her home to change clothes and then drop her off at work.
There are three things that a pro and non-pro that I have seen more than once knows: 1. Do not show up to my place with make-up on, 2. Do not show up with panties on (I was driving home with one chick and I started fingering her. I said wait a minute; what are you doing with panties on? She said I know; I was going to take them off before we get there.) and 3. Do not show up drunk. I guess once again YMMV.[/QUOTE]I never buy putas drinks.
But I'd buy you a drink anytime, I love your posts.
You're doing God's work!
Post-script, I'm guessing most putas around the world, make more $$ than most mongers around the world, including those from the states!!
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2236468]If a girl shows up at my place without makeup, I would consider that an insult and make her put on makeup before we get down to business. I will not do any girl who is not wearing makeup. Point of principle.[/QUOTE]That's what makeup is to me!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2236306]An overpriced waste of time.
If you search out last Vane restrepo on Facebook, you can send her a message. If it's the right girl, she'll eventually add you to a WhatsApp group, where she posts pictures of the girls she pimps. Whichever girl you want, you send a message to La Vane and she'll tell you the girl isn't available. Or the girl is double what you expected to pay, or the girl can't be there for 3 hours, which will be at least 6 hours.
It's like an escort service that no longer cares about customer satisfaction.[/QUOTE]Thanks for review. I found La Vane Restrepo Restrepo on FB. She also has lots of WGs added in her account as friends. Should I avoid these girls too?
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2234651]
I am adding pics for you all.[/QUOTE]Amazing and detailed report. Thanks for adding pics. Your positive experience makes me want to visit Medellin even more. Just wanted to ask, if you have mongered in SEA how does it compare to Medellin?
[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2236554]Thanks for review. I found La Vane Restrepo Restrepo on FB. She also has lots of WGs added in her account as friends. Should I avoid these girls too?[/QUOTE]I've had a few off her friends list and they were great.
You're just cutting out the middle man / pump and saving money.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2236474]At a strip club if I sit and have a drink with the girl and we hang out and talk some 1st it gives me a better idea of our compatibility, how either cool / sweet / sexy / fun she might be, all which can add up to a better time in between the sheets.[/QUOTE]Anyone to poor to buy a BG a drink shouldn't be in the bar to begin with. That doesn't apply to Mr E because once or twice a year he strolls into a bar and orders his BG while standing. His opinion is for those that have the same MO and are happy with the low hanging fruit on the net or on the street. Sure he speaks as if they're the same quality as a hot BG but anyone w a brain knows they're not on average. He is a good salesman though but a few here can read between the lines. The proof is in the pics of which he has none, only self-righteous opinions. He's the man here, hahahahaha.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2236474]At a strip club if I sit and have a drink with the girl and we hang out and talk some 1st it gives me a better idea of our compatibility, how either cool / sweet / sexy / fun she might be, all which can add up to a better time in between the sheets.[/QUOTE]Indeed, it's all about ensuring a good time with the chick. Otherwise, it's all about a Wham-bam-thankyou-mam, or as my buddy likes to say, masturbating with a vagina. If I am paying money, I want a good time and buying the girl a drink makes things a bit easier.
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2236541]I never buy putas drinks.
But I'd buy you a drink anytime, I love your posts.
You're doing God's work!
Post-script, I'm guessing most putas around the world, make more $$ than most mongers around the world, including those from the states!![/QUOTE]I'm guessing you were drunk when you wrote that last line. If the putas were making more than the mongers, we would quickly run out of putas.
Say $80 k annually for the average US monger? That's probably low. Living expenses in an Estrato 6 neighborhood in Medellin about $1200 month. So a puta making the same as the average US monger can move from her $300 month situation, to the most expensive area, work for 2 years, pay cash for a home in a nice Estrato 4 area, work 2 more years and retire.
That describes about 0.1% of the working girls. They make a lot of money, spend it wisely, limit the vanity purchases and build something to support them when everything else starts needing support. The rest don't have the work ethic, waste what they do earn and have no plan for the future.
If all the putas were making $80 k a year, I'd go back and set myself up as a puta financial advisor, get 100 clients at 1% and live like a king.
If this is your first time, and you do not have a lot of Facebook contacts there, I would definitely stay at the Mansion. The rooms are somewhat expensive, about $100 per night, but all the girls are already there sitting around to pool and at the bar at night. Collect a lot of contact information and FB information from the girls and you will never have to stay at the Mansion again, if you do not want. Once you know a little bit more I recommend renting an Air be and be or private apartment. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Jai887;2236159]Hey guys,
Me and my friends are going to Colombia Medellin for the first time. Wanted to see if why'all can share some of the Facebook girls that you have had great experience with. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance and if we come across anyone new I'll definitely let y'all know so you can add them to list for the next visit.
And can someone please tell me how do y'all find them on Facebook. I tried searching for Medellin Columbia in Facebook and a bunch of girls come up but how do you know if they are actually working girls? Sorry I am a newbie if this is a stupid question.
For spending a weekend there, which will be a good hotel to stay? From everything I have read they charge if you bring guest with you. Is there a hotel that doesn't charge?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
If you are in Medellin now or will be there soon, I'd like to recommend a chica to you. I have been with this girl several times and she's always given me good service. Her name is Vale Garcia. She has been in the business for a few years now, but is not what I would consider to be hard core.
-Kissing.
-BBBJ.
-Very enthusiastic sex (she'll work you hard until you cum).
-Very flaca, but with nice tits for a small girl and a nice peach ass.
-Pleasant personality / no drama. Will not drink your liquor or expect you to give her anything.
-No drugs.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100014669350059[/URL]
[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2236541]I never buy putas drinks.
But I'd buy you a drink anytime, I love your posts.
You're doing God's work!
Post-script, I'm guessing most putas around the world, make more $$ than most mongers around the world, including those from the states!![/QUOTE]Buying a girl a drink when you trying to make some idle talk with a girl at the bar, is normal and easy, no big deal a few bucks. Non-issue.
Only issue I was trying to get to (when I started this) was, are there rackets / scams. Lots of bars (in many parts of the world) - have a separate drink and a separate (very high) price for this so called "ladies drink". You don't ask the price, they don't tell you the price, it is not listed on menu- you get a bill at the end for 25 $ (something like that). In Paris I was once handed a 500 E bill for a bottle of Champagne. So shit happens, be careful.
If that is not the case here in Medellin (as we are being told here) we should be fine, just confirm the price upfront to be doubly careful.
Have fun,
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2236722]If this is your first time, and you do not have a lot of Facebook contacts there, I would definitely stay at the Mansion. The rooms are somewhat expensive, about $100 per night, but all the girls are already there sitting around to pool and at the bar at night. Collect a lot of contact information and FB information from the girls and you will never have to stay at the Mansion again, if you do not want. Once you know a little bit more I recommend renting an Air be and be or private apartment. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Do you have to stay at mansion to meet the girls at the bar? Couldn't you just walk in there, assuming all these are Free Lancers (FLs) and there is no 'take out' fee?
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236753]Do you have to stay at mansion to meet the girls at the bar? Couldn't you just walk in there, assuming all these are Free Lancers (FLs) and there is no 'take out' fee?[/QUOTE]People not staying at the hotel are generally not allowed in the bar, it is only for hotel guests, that said they sometimes allow outsiders to enter but they charge a 50,000 peso cover.
Few days ago fucked a Facebook girl called Johana Andrea Erazo Jiminez.
She had just got back from a family holiday in Cartagena and had a sexy tan.
Pretty girl but not stunning but was good in bed. She seemed disappointed with 200 plus taxi after we had previously agreed on it which pissed me off. Didn't give her anymore and lost a possible repeat customer.
That night had another Facebook girl called Deisy Julieth Hinestroza come see me. Again gave her 200 plus taxi.
Wow this girl was amazing but I'm biased as I love black girls. She was the 3rd one I've been with and all three are in my top five fucks. Maybe I've been lucky but they seem to get so wet and horny.
She is only 19, really pretty face, perfect natural tits, nice round firm arse and tight pussy. She smelled amazing too.
Seemed really nice girl, despite my lack of Spanish and very cute.
Recommend her to anyone that likes black girls.
Forgot to mention yesterday was a bit of a letdown but chance to recharge my batteries.
Tried to go to two La Pampa restaurants in Laureles and both were closed.
Later tried to go to Fase 2 at around 9 pm and the bouncers outside told me to come back at 10. Nowhere to wait so jumped into a taxi and went to Luna Lunera which is near my apartment. Was only one girl there who was bit older but quite hot. They wanted 150 k for half an hour though and she wasn't that hot.
By the time I got to my room couldn't be bothered to arrange anything else so had a quiet night.
Might try Energy in Estadio today.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236753]Do you have to stay at mansion to meet the girls at the bar? Couldn't you just walk in there, assuming all these are Free Lancers (FLs) and there is no 'take out' fee?[/QUOTE]It is not a hotel as you think when the word hotel is mentioned. It is more like a big house with rooms rented out and is gated in. So people can not just come in freely off the street as they could at the Hilton, where there may be hundreds of rooms and hundreds of people staying there.
Aside from Conejitos (and the two cheaper alternatives either side of it), those other two clubs 5 minutes walk away and Fase Dos. Are there any other strip clubs in Medellin?
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2236753]Do you have to stay at mansion to meet the girls at the bar? Couldn't you just walk in there,..?[/QUOTE]No, absolutely not. Management has taken steps to stop exactly that from happening.
There is a locked security gate with a camera and a remote lock release at the sidewalk level. You won't get near the girls or guests unless they want you there. And, maybe I'm wrong on this, but somehow I think I didn't have a key to that gate, just got buzzed in, or maybe I was buzzed and forgot how that worked, LOL But, in general, no way are you walking in that place without the front desk guys allowing it. There have been severe situations that put people and their possessions at risk. This is one of the measures taken to control admission.
[QUOTE=Joe100;2236886]Aside from Conejitos (and the two cheaper alternatives either side of it), those other two clubs 5 minutes walk away and Fase Dos. Are there any other strip clubs in Medellin?[/QUOTE]There is la isla, San Diego and Luna lunera. Depends what kind of environment you are looking for. I've personally enjoyed the strip clubs in the centro. But if you want something on the higher end then la isla is probably your best bet.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2236722]If this is your first time, and you do not have a lot of Facebook contacts there, I would definitely stay at the Mansion. The rooms are somewhat expensive, about $100 per night, but all the girls are already there sitting around to pool and at the bar at night. Collect a lot of contact information and FB information from the girls and you will never have to stay at the Mansion again, if you do not want. Once you know a little bit more I recommend renting an Air be and be or private apartment. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls who frequent the Mansion are also Facebook girls.
Just been to Energy in Estadio, was impressed.
They had around 12 or so girls there and all bar 1 or 2 was hot.
Few were 9's in my book.
Chose a petite girl called Luna as I haven't been with one yet and she was good.
Paid 125 for 30 which is for sex only. Wasn't rushed at all though and I'm sure I went over the time.
She had a really pretty face, curly shoulder length hair, small perky boobs and nice little ass.
Really sexy, smiley girl was dancing sexy in front of the mirror before and after the act and she spoke a little bit English which was a bonus.
Really want to find a fit MILF before I leave on Sunday, none stand out on photoprepagos etc. Anyone know any?
[QUOTE=Joe100;2236886]Aside from Conejitos (and the two cheaper alternatives either side of it), those other two clubs 5 minutes walk away and Fase Dos. Are there any other strip clubs in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Strip clubs in Medellin, I'm probably missing a few.
La Isla.
Fase 2.
Luna Lunera.
Grill San Diego.
Club Maracaibo.
Barra Ejecutiva.
Conejitas.
Grill Nueva (can't recall the full name. By Conejitas).
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Hilton.
Grill Occidental.
Bar Montijo.
Some guys can't party / monger without getting smashed in the process. It's like they can't handle doing this stuff sober (guilt or shame issues, whatever).
Myself, I'm not much of a drinker. I never buy a chica more than one drink, and it depends on the situation if even that. I often even explain to them my "one drink rule. " A drink can help with the "casting" and "rapport building" the conversation and questions just tend to flow more smoothly with a drink in the chica's hand.
But if she asks for more drinks, that's a no-no in my book. Some hookers behave like they're in a singles bar and just want to get as many free drinks from guys as they can.
Keep in mind some chicas can't handle the hooker / sex thing without getting drunk or taking a hit of "something" (just like some fellas, see above); but I never take a chica that I've seen had more than a couple of drinks (or is obviously plastered) as the quality of the session tends to go down IMHO. It's true a few chicas get wild in the sack once they're drunk, but my personal preference is I enjoy the session better sober or with a light buzz, so I prefer the girl to be in a similar state.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2236775]Few days ago fucked a Facebook girl called Johana Andrea Erazo Jiminez.
She had just got back from a family holiday in Cartagena and had a sexy tan.
Pretty girl but not stunning but was good in bed. She seemed disappointed with 200 plus taxi after we had previously agreed on it which pissed me off. Didn't give her anymore and lost a possible repeat customer.
That night had another Facebook girl called Deisy Julieth Hinestroza come see me. Again gave her 200 plus taxi.
Wow this girl was amazing but I'm biased as I love black girls. She was the 3rd one I've been with and all three are in my top five fucks. Maybe I've been lucky but they seem to get so wet and horny.
She is only 19, really pretty face, perfect natural tits, nice round firm arse and tight pussy. She smelled amazing too.
Seemed really nice girl, despite my lack of Spanish and very cute.
Recommend her to anyone that likes black girls.[/QUOTE]I was going to send you a PM with the contact of an awesome black chick in Medellin. But for some reason, your PMs aren't working.
[QUOTE=Joe100;2236886]Aside from Conejitos (and the two cheaper alternatives either side of it), those other two clubs 5 minutes walk away and Fase Dos. Are there any other strip clubs in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Yes. Several.
Photoprepagos for example has many girls just as hot if not hooter than the girls at energy and they typically ask 100-200 cop for the hour.
Often times, there are several girls working in a location. It can be a fun adventure checking otu new spots like that. I will be your wingman if needed. LOL.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2236908]Just been to Energy in Estadio, was impressed.
They had around 12 or so girls there and all bar 1 or 2 was hot.
Few were 9's in my book.
Chose a petite girl called Luna as I haven't been with one yet and she was good.
Paid 125 for 30 which is for sex only. Wasn't rushed at all though and I'm sure I went over the time.
She had a really pretty face, curly shoulder length hair, small perky boobs and nice little ass.
Really sexy, smiley girl was dancing sexy in front of the mirror before and after the act and she spoke a little bit English which was a bonus.
Really want to find a fit MILF before I leave on Sunday, none stand out on photoprepagos etc. Anyone know any?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2236775]Few days ago fucked a Facebook girl called Johana Andrea Erazo Jiminez.
She had just got back from a family holiday in Cartagena and had a sexy tan.
Pretty girl but not stunning but was good in bed. She seemed disappointed with 200 plus taxi after we had previously agreed on it which pissed me off. Didn't give her anymore and lost a possible repeat customer.[/QUOTE]Very pretty face! Any baby belly damage?
Sometimes we agree on 200 plus taxi: but these girls feel they had to give a little extra effort to get you off--or, maybe you are not so good looking (I do not know) so she felt she deserved more. Either way: I am a believer in just giving an extra 20 K if they seem stressed about $$ for any reason- 6 bucks means nothing to any gringo paying for a Colombian girl to please them- and if it makes everything smoother- its worth the good karma to me.
I don't get why so many mongers pay for flights, hotels, food, and other BS like lots of alcohol--but draw the line at hooking a single mom who sees her best option as sucking dick to pay for her kids expenses with an extra 5 or 10 bucks than agreed upon- I just don't get it. Then again, honestly: I never have bad sessions--and they all leave me happy and usually have friends to suggest when I ask. (I am not criticizing the guy this post responds to--speaking more generally).
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2237104]Photoprepagos for example has many girls just as hot if not hooter than the girls at energy and they typically ask 100-200 cop for the hour.
Often times, there are several girls working in a location. It can be a fun adventure checking otu new spots like that. I will be your wingman if needed. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the offer, I need to pay for s subscription so I can get PMs first though.
The problem I have with Photoprepagos is that most of the time I can't see their face. I have to find someone's face attractive to f*ck them.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2236864]Exactly! Duuuhhhh.
Anyone who says, "I never buy putas a drink", IMO is the ugly monger, the kind that unfortunately Colombia is now attracting.[/QUOTE]Yes, of course, totally agreed. Mongering doesn't mean treating other human beings like garbage. Everybody can win.
[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2237140]Very pretty face! Any baby belly damage?
Sometimes we agree on 200 plus taxi: but these girls feel they had to give a little extra effort to get you off--or, maybe you are not so good looking (I do not know) so she felt she deserved more. Either way: I am a believer in just giving an extra 20 K if they seem stressed about $$ for any reason- 6 bucks means nothing to any gringo paying for a Colombian girl to please them- and if it makes everything smoother- its worth the good karma to me.
I don't get why so many mongers pay for flights, hotels, food, and other BS like lots of alcohol--but draw the line at hooking a single mom who sees her best option as sucking dick to pay for her kids expenses with an extra 5 or 10 bucks than agreed upon- I just don't get it. Then again, honestly: I never have bad sessions--and they all leave me happy and usually have friends to suggest when I ask. (I am not criticizing the guy this post responds to--speaking more generally).[/QUOTE]It's more the principle. If she agreed on a price she shouldn't complain when she gets it. I probably would have tipped her had she not acted funny.
I'm 32 in good shape and not bad looking, all the other girls have been happy except her. She even said I need money because I spent too much on holiday.
Some of these girls make more money than us mongers. I feel sorry the cleaners earning pennies more than the escorts earning good money.
She didn't have any baby damage.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2236293]Why buy a drink for a hooker when you already know she is actually there to fuck? In what other situation would you buy drinks for someone you are considering hiring.[/QUOTE]So she will sit with you and give you lap dances.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;2236990]Keep in mind some chicas can't handle the hooker / sex thing without getting drunk or taking a hit of "something" (just like some fellas, see above); but I never take a chica that I've seen had more than a couple of drinks (or is obviously plastered) as the quality of the session tends to go down IMHO. It's true a few chicas get wild in the sack once they're drunk, but my personal preference is I enjoy the session better sober or with a light buzz, so I prefer the girl to be in a similar state.[/QUOTE]They aren't asking for drinks to get drunk. They are asking because each drink puts 3 k pesos in their pocket.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2237266]They aren't asking for drinks to get drunk. They are asking because each drink puts 3 k pesos in their pocket.[/QUOTE]I know in Tijuana, they usually give the girls fake alcohol. If they ask for beer, it's really apple juice, etc. I wonder if it is similar here. I do like a girl who is a little buzzed though.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237174]Thanks for the offer, I need to pay for s subscription so I can get PMs first though.
The problem I have with Photoprepagos is that most of the time I can't see their face. I have to find someone's face attractive to f*ck them.[/QUOTE]A lot of the girls on Photoprepagos have meeting places of "at home" or "own apartment". Does this mean you have the option to go to their apartment? Has anyone gone to one of the girls apartments? Seems like it would be a better experience. Your room doesn't get messed up and you wouldn't have to wait at a motel, etc.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237210]It's more the principle. If she agreed on a price she shouldn't complain when she gets it. I probably would have tipped her had she not acted funny.
I'm 32 in good shape and not bad looking, all the other girls have been happy except her. She even said I need money because I spent too much on holiday.[/QUOTE]Nice work on holding your ground. She tried to work you for extra pay after agreeing to a set price for services. That she said she spent too much on holiday is brazen! You didn't succumb, and also made the decision to not see her again. Some guys would have just paid her the extra because of inexperience, fear, or just plain foolishness. And even worse, some guys would choose to see her again.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237210]Some of these girls make more money than us mongers. I feel sorry the cleaners earning pennies more than the escorts earning good money.[/QUOTE]Some? Maybe 1 out of every thousand, and that's being generous, is making more than the typical monger. And that's not the average monger. The typical monger is (when you include retirees) making $50-$80 k annually. The average is probably comfortably above $150 k. The typical monger includes the expats who move to Colombia because $30-$40 k pensions or SS go a lot farther. It also includes everyone who struggles to save enough for 1 or 2 short trips per year.
The typical prepago in Colombia is lucky to pull in $6 k per year. The really busy ones are getting up to $15-$20 k per year. The 1 in a 1000 is hitting $50 k or more. Maybe 1 in 5000 tops $100 k annually, but they're working as top models, internationally.
Now add in that most are supporting, not only their own kids, but often a mother, grandmother, and or brothers and sisters.
Make friends with a few of them. Talk them into showing you where they live. You probably shouldn't go at night. While you're there, look for a few things. There's probably a TV, maybe some sort of stereo. Look at the furniture, really look. If you know furniture, and I do, you'll see it's the cheap stuff like they sell at Big Lots, even cheaper than Walmart furniture. Look for a water heater. Look for a washer. Look for flooring, something other than painted concrete. Look for all the things you would expect a young woman, earning $50 k or more in the US to have.
What I'm getting at is, most of these girls are living in conditions most of us couldn't handle. Sure they will try to get more money. They'll lie and plead and try every trick to get another few dollars from you.
There's no need to give in. Pay the agreed price. Teach her that if she wants to charge more, she needs to set a price and be firm. But if you're needing to make up a fairy tale that she's probably living like a princess, you're way off.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237174]Thanks for the offer, I need to pay for s subscription so I can get PMs first though.
The problem I have with Photoprepagos is that most of the time I can't see their face. I have to find someone's face attractive to f*ck them.[/QUOTE]You do not need to pay for a subscription.
Most of them you can whatsapp and if you ask for a face pic they will usually send one.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2237296]A lot of the girls on Photoprepagos have meeting places of "at home" or "own apartment". Does this mean you have the option to go to their apartment? Has anyone gone to one of the girls apartments? Seems like it would be a better experience. Your room doesn't get messed up and you wouldn't have to wait at a motel, etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, they have places they use for making appointments. You will find that they share with some other girls. Its like going to a casa. But you see soem pics of whos working on line and then you need to whatsapp or call to get the address. They are all over the city. I know there happens to be a concentration of them in the estadio area.
Its about going with the flow. Not upsetting the applecart, not jading her, not ruining it for the next guy, not looking like a big fish.
Its not what YOU think is fair or what THEY think they deserve or the act they put on or the story they tell to pull at your sympathy strings. Its not good Karma. Karma is balance. What you are doing is allowing the breeze to blow a 20 or a 50 out of your hand and just watching it fly away.
In direct reponse / contrast to something you mentioned, it is amazing to me how many guys are so annoyed over a dollar in viewing fees at casas, or not getting ripped off 2 or 3 dollars by a taxi taking the long route or being over charged a couple of dollars at a store or restaurant and then like nothing, hand a chica an extra 20 mil or even 20 bucks or bottle of whatever you might have, just because she has some common story which more than likely is an exageration or lie.
Here is the reality. If a girl in medellin has no skills and wants to get a job in a retail store, she is going to get 40 mil a day. She pays for her own transportation and she pays her own food.
I was talking with a receptionist in an economical hotel downtown. She works 6 days a week 9 hours a day. She gets paid 1 million pesos a month and she is psyched because that is enough to pay her rent (400.000), food, transport and more. That is roughly 35 mil a day!
So your extra 20 mil is almost a days work for a normal chica.
Perspective.
When I was a kid living in NYC working my ass off, my rent was 80% of my pay.
[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2237140]Very pretty face! Any baby belly damage?
Sometimes we agree on 200 plus taxi: but these girls feel they had to give a little extra effort to get you off--or, maybe you are not so good looking (I do not know) so she felt she deserved more. Either way: I am a believer in just giving an extra 20 K if they seem stressed about $$ for any reason- 6 bucks means nothing to any gringo paying for a Colombian girl to please them- and if it makes everything smoother- its worth the good karma to me.
I don't get why so many mongers pay for flights, hotels, food, and other BS like lots of alcohol--but draw the line at hooking a single mom who sees her best option as sucking dick to pay for her kids expenses with an extra 5 or 10 bucks than agreed upon- I just don't get it. Then again, honestly: I never have bad sessions--and they all leave me happy and usually have friends to suggest when I ask. (I am not criticizing the guy this post responds to--speaking more generally).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2236775]Few days ago fucked a Facebook girl called Johana Andrea Erazo Jiminez.
She had just got back from a family holiday in Cartagena and had a sexy tan.
Pretty girl but not stunning but was good in bed. She seemed disappointed with 200 plus taxi after we had previously agreed on it which pissed me off. Didn't give her anymore and lost a possible repeat customer.
[/QUOTE]Just looked at her Fay-boo page. She is f-ing beautiful!! WOW!! I'm glad you didn't give in and give more than agreed upon. But like most of them, she wants more $$ but yet has money for tats, smokes, vacations & nights out with her crew. That's what I can't understand. Actually I can understand it. It's her job!! Jjajajaj.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2237487]Its not what YOU think is fair or what THEY think they deserve or the act they put on or the story they tell to pull at your sympathy strings. Its not good Karma. Karma is balance. What you are doing is allowing the breeze to blow a 20 or a 50 out of your hand and just watching it fly away.
In direct reponse / contrast to something you mentioned, it is amazing to me how many guys are so annoyed over a dollar in viewing fees at casas, or not getting ripped off 2 or 3 dollars by a taxi taking the long route or being over charged a couple of dollars at a store or restaurant and then like nothing, hand a chica an extra 20 mil or even 20 bucks or bottle of whatever you might have, just because she has some common story which more than likely is an exageration or lie.[/QUOTE]Like JI, I always have great sessions. And from my reports you can see that I don't go buying chicks all the extra drinks and giving the extra tips fooling myself into believing the chick is going to turn it up a notch. Like you said, they will argue with the taxi, the restaurant, or whatever else, but when it comes to that pussy they turn to cremepuffs and make all kinds of excuses why they must tack on extra to an agreed upon fee. Well if you had to put strange dicks in in your mouth...Like the bih didn't know what she was signing up for when SHE WENT LOOKING for the job.
Yesterday in the Havana thread Brother Madison said he likes to give hookers extra money and pass out gifts and shit because it makes him feel good. I think that hit the nail on the head. Guys make all kinds of excuses why they do it, but I think the bottom line is that it makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. Me, I have plenty of nonpros to do shit with to make me warm and fuzzy inside. When I go to a hooker it is just like going to McDonald's or the dentist. I am paying them for a service. I don't walk into the dentist offering him drinks and leaving him a tip. Sure hookers are people too, but the people working at McDonald's are people as well, but nobody talks about showering them with tips and extra gifts.
I was reading JI's line about paying for a ticket, hotel, yada yada and not want to give a hooker extra. That goes over my head. You didn't want to give the pilot extra for getting you there safe or any of the other people along the way extra either, so why when it comes to the uneducated hooker that is probably trying to rip you off anyway, people feel all the extra is deserved?
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237174]Thanks for the offer, I need to pay for s subscription so I can get PMs first though.
The problem I have with Photoprepagos is that most of the time I can't see their face. I have to find someone's face attractive to f*ck them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2237481]You do not need to pay for a subscription.
Most of them you can whatsapp and if you ask for a face pic they will usually send one.[/QUOTE]I think he is talking about a subscription to ISG so he can receive private messages.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2237294]I know in Tijuana, they usually give the girls fake alcohol. If they ask for beer, it's really apple juice, etc. I wonder if it is similar here. I do like a girl who is a little buzzed though.[/QUOTE]Bottom line of all this simply is- have fun, let others have fun too. Actually may 'further' your cause, chicas like spenders- you may/would attract better girls. Don't over analyze this- but to each their own.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2237487]Its about going with the flow. Not upsetting the applecart, not jading her, not ruining it for the next guy, not looking like a big fish.
Its not what YOU think is fair or what THEY think they deserve or the act they put on or the story they tell to pull at your sympathy strings. Its not good Karma. Karma is balance. What you are doing is allowing the breeze to blow a 20 or a 50 out of your hand and just watching it fly away.
In direct reponse / contrast to something you mentioned, it is amazing to me how many guys are so annoyed over a dollar in viewing fees at casas, or not getting ripped off 2 or 3 dollars by a taxi taking the long route or being over charged a couple of dollars at a store or restaurant and then like nothing, hand a chica an extra 20 mil or even 20 bucks or bottle of whatever you might have, just because she has some common story which more than likely is an exageration or lie.
Here is the reality. If a girl in medellin has no skills and wants to get a job in a retail store, she is going to get 40 mil a day. She pays for her own transportation and she pays her own food.
I was talking with a receptionist in an economical hotel downtown. She works 6 days a week 9 hours a day. She gets paid 1 million pesos a month and she is psyched because that is enough to pay her rent (400.000), food, transport and more. That is roughly 35 mil a day!
So your extra 20 mil is almost a days work for a normal chica.
Perspective.
When I was a kid living in NYC working my ass off, my rent was 80% of my pay.[/QUOTE]"job in a retail store, she is going to get 40 mil a day".
Have the mils got mixed up?
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2237563]"job in a retail store, she is going to get 40 mil a day".
Have the mils got mixed up?[/QUOTE]So 40 mil is 40,000 pesos, or about $13 US.
I agree with the overall sentiment of the reply. But these girls would "have" more if they were not such spendthrifts. Purses, shoes, slutty clothes, nails, hair (including extensions), dental work, tatooed eyebrows, tatoos, implants, etc. Not to mention what they spend on drugs and / or booze. There are some who make good decisions, but most "live in the moment" because they know anything else. They party like a rock star one week and have no money for food or rent the next.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2237476]
Make friends with a few of them. Talk them into showing you where they live. You probably shouldn't go at night. While you're there, look for a few things. There's probably a TV, maybe some sort of stereo. Look at the furniture, really look. If you know furniture, and I do, you'll see it's the cheap stuff like they sell at Big Lots, even cheaper than Walmart furniture. Look for a water heater. Look for a washer. Look for flooring, something other than painted concrete. Look for all the things you would expect a young woman, earning $50 k or more in the US to have.
What I'm getting at is, most of these girls are living in conditions most of us couldn't handle. Sure they will try to get more money. They'll lie and plead and try every trick to get another few dollars from you.
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[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2237623]I agree with the overall sentiment of the reply. But these girls would "have" more if they were not such spendthrifts. Purses, shoes, slutty clothes, nails, hair (including extensions), dental work, tatooed eyebrows, tatoos, implants, etc. Not to mention what they spend on drugs and / or booze. There are some who make good decisions, but most "live in the moment" because they know anything else. They party like a rock star one week and have no money for food or rent the next.[/QUOTE]If these girls were that smart, they will not be in this business. And lot of all this simply goes with the territory "live in the moment". You are in "silly" business you need to blend in. Purses, shoes, slutty clothes, nails, hair- you have to do all this.
I would hope if these girls have immediate obligations. Rent / food / parents or whatever they need to. But who knows, lets not judge anyone.
Up-sell and sob-sell are general part of the business. Do whatever makes you happy. (Have fun).
On the important business of "up-sell" - what are the 'extra' services being offered in the market? 3-somes, lesbians, A??
Guys.
Need the "real" list, looked at the PDF. Don't know what is what, it simply is long list. Can't go thru each to find out how good / bad they are.
Need to know the better joints - "casas", "strip joints", "FB girls", any "Free Lance" bars, or have to look for SWs. Looking for better girls 8's /9's. Not going all the way there to get Avg and below.
What is as "casa" by the way- is it a MP or Brothel. I suppose they are one and the same thing (Thanks much.
Sam.
This is a continuation of my report traveling through Panama, Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena.
Facebook girls will regularly contact you over messenger with many from Medellin. I found a FB girl who I connected with in Medellin. Our flirting started early and she sent me plenty of sexy pictures and she expressed her hope that we would have "Chemistry" and I would like her. I had a late afternoon and evening free time from my group so I took advantage of it. Our plan was to meet for drinks and supper and maybe more. When I met her I found her extremely attractive and sexy. We had one beer then decided to skip supper and grabbed a taxi to a love motel. Another amazing evening and a good connection. Nothing off limits. She was offended when I tried to give her some money. We are still talking over messenger daily.
Love Motels are interesting. You are allowed entry into the gates and quickly whisked in to a parking location or behind doors. The rooms were nice and included either a cubby hole with cold beers or a beer fridge. You are supposed to phone the front desk when you are done and they will figure out how much you owe and you pay through a cubby hole. They try to ensure your privacy. The cost was about $100,000 per hour.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2237640]Guys.
Need the "real" list, looked at the PDF. Don't know what is what, it simply is long list. Can't go thru each to find out how good / bad they are.
Need to know the better joints - "casas", "strip joints", "FB girls", any "Free Lance" bars, or have to look for SWs. Looking for better girls 8's /9's. Not going all the way there to get Avg and below.[/QUOTE]You are about to tick off a bunch of people. What you are doing is called looking a gift horse in the mouth. Should the person tailor making the list for you also be available to assist when it is time for your dick to go into the pussy? I can even see someone making the list just right for you and after all is said and done you say weelll, I decided to do the total opposite instead. Take the list, go around, and find your own 8s and 9s!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2237672]You are about to tick off a bunch of people. What you are doing is called looking a gift horse in the mouth. Should the person tailor making the list for you also be available to assist when it is time for your dick to go into the pussy? I can even see someone making the list just right for you and after all is said and done you say weelll, I decided to do the total opposite instead. Take the list, go around, and find your own 8s and 9s![/QUOTE]
I am hoping some others are not ticked of and would share there finds, several seem to be doing so.
My attitude/situation towards all this is:
- " At a certain age you can only walk around that much"
- "So many girls so little time" - Just imagine a dream girl is waiting for you and you are wandering around
Rest assured, I will list out all that I find- "Mongering Brotherhood".
Thanks
All debate this forever without resolution. Some of these girls are not very smart (although very street smart). But I have met a few who are smart. They save their money. Have bought a car. Or even a house eventually (thinking of a few in both Colombian and Costa Rica). And even if they are "smart," most of them come from poor barrios where they are supporting their families and probably a boyfriend. They have no real job opportunities. Education is not something that has been made to be important to them. They see not future. So they live for the moment. I talk to a lot of these girls regularly. They ask me what I am doing and I am usually working. I ask them what they are doing and the answer is usually. Sleeping. Watching TV. Nothing. They just sit around the house. If they have money, maybe they drink. Not much of a life, if you ask me. As for the "stuff". I would argue that it's not necessary. I tend to like the girl next door. Her shoes or nails or purse do nothing for me. These girls do it to make themselves look superior to the others. They is intense competition among these girls. I know a few girls who want to take fotos of every meal they eat and every drink they drink. So they can post them and show their friends. It is unbelievable how important this is to some of them. For me, as long as you are cute and clean and provide good service, I do not care. I don't need the make-up, the shoes, the hair, the slutty clothes. Give me a nice shirt, jeans, a pretty face, and panties that are somewhat sexy and I'm happy.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2237638]If these girls were that smart, they will not be in this business. And lot of all this simply goes with the territory "live in the moment". You are in "silly" business you need to blend in. Purses, shoes, slutty clothes, nails, hair- you have to do all this.
I would hope if these girls have immediate obligations. Rent / food / parents or whatever they need to. But who knows, lets not judge anyone.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2237210]It's more the principle. If she agreed on a price she shouldn't complain when she gets it. I probably would have tipped her had she not acted funny.[/QUOTE]I can't disagree with any of that--yet I still give the 20 k (mas o menos) -maybe I shouldn't?
I def tip less to the chicks who act like this then the cool vibe girls who are chill all the way through.
Guess it depends if I want to see her again? LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2237518]I was reading JI's line about paying for a ticket, hotel, yada yada and not want to give a hooker extra. That goes over my head. You didn't want to give the pilot extra for getting you there safe or any of the other people along the way extra either, so why when it comes to the uneducated hooker that is probably trying to rip you off anyway, people feel all the extra is deserved?[/QUOTE]I tip at restaurants. Sometimes I tip the taxi guy. Sometimes I tip the girl. The other day I saw some firefighters and ambulance people put out a car fire near the supermarket parking lot-It was hot out. I bought them a bunch of cold Gatorade and drinks like that. To me its all the same thing.
Any 'extra' is based on performance not her swindle moves that aren't part of the deal-though that funny shady energy will def. Get her less--but not 'no extra'-unless the service wasn't up to par like if her pussy smells bad.
Now I am imagining running into a guy at a bar in Parque Lleras and striking up a conversation. I find out he was the pilot who flew the plane that got me to Medellin--I would totally buy or at least offer to buy the pilot a drink. I imagine many people would-call it a tip-call it whatever-to me all the same.
Besides, I'm probably going to just waste that same amount of extra on some other nonsensical unimportant BS anyway -may as well give it to the hot girl. If she was good and I had fun. The more I want to see her again, the more 'extra' I may toss her way to help ensure things go how and when and where I want next time.
[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2237701]I tip at restaurants. Sometimes I tip the taxi guy. Sometimes I tip the girl. The other day I saw some firefighters and ambulance people put out a car fire near the supermarket parking lot-It was hot out. I bought them a bunch of cold Gatorade and drinks like that. To me its all the same thing.
Any 'extra' is based on performance not her swindle moves that aren't part of the deal-though that funny shady energy will def. Get her less--but not 'no extra'-unless the service wasn't up to par like if her pussy smells bad.
Now I am imagining running into a guy at a bar in Parque Lleras and striking up a conversation. I find out he was the pilot who flew the plane that got me to Medellin--I would totally buy or at least offer to buy the pilot a drink. I imagine many people would-call it a tip-call it whatever-to me all the same.
Besides, I'm probably going to just waste that same amount of extra on some other nonsensical unimportant BS anyway -may as well give it to the hot girl. If she was good and I had fun. The more I want to see her again, the more 'extra' I may toss her way to help ensure things go how and when and where I want next time.[/QUOTE]
Exactly my point - "I saw some firefighters and ambulance people put out a car fire near the supermarket parking lot-It was hot out. I bought them a bunch of cold Gatorade and drinks like that. ".
I will pay extra for: a special smile, little bit more effort, that special butt, dressed for the occasion- whatever. I am never trying to throw money, have no need to show off or anything (a losers game) - but I will happily pay extra, a tip, whatever as appropriate. When I am on a holiday, I am not trying to save money- I am trying to spend money. People that make me have fun- I will pay them as appropriate. (And I always pay extra for convenience, and no headaches, and the "extras").
Would like to be branded the "Cheap Charlie", I know there is peer pressure, sales pressure and all that, and all that. At the end of the day - "Whatever makes you Happy".
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2234028]Hotel Dorado la 70.
Cra. 70 #44 B-66, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia.
Any reviews? Location ratings?
Is this chica friendly.
Can I walk around this area?[/QUOTE]Sorry about asking again, do you guys know if this is chica friendly hotel?
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[QUOTE=Duncan216;2237296]A lot of the girls on Photoprepagos have meeting places of "at home" or "own apartment". Does this mean you have the option to go to their apartment? Has anyone gone to one of the girls apartments? Seems like it would be a better experience. Your room doesn't get messed up and you wouldn't have to wait at a motel, etc.[/QUOTE]Done this quite a few times. Every experience has been good. One of my favs off the site broke it all down to me. She explained usually the girls rent out someones apartment for their business. She says girls will either rent an apartment together and share the expense monthly but use it only for seeing customers or they will simply rent out an apartment from a friend for the hours needed. Its usually not their own apartment.
On the other hand yes I have had only good experiences with this but I can see the obvious dangers too. I personally arrive and ask the taxi or uber not to leave right away. If she us not willing to video chat to confirm her identity I arrive and then call when I'm outside. I normally ask her to come to the door before I even get out of the taxi or before I let the taxi go. Last thing you want to do is find out its a bait a switch or worse and now are rideless. Just always be a step ahead of them in any scenario and you'll be fine but it shouldn't be too concerning once you confirm the identity.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2237934]Done this quite a few times. Every experience has been good. One of my favs off the site broke it all down to me. She explained usually the girls rent out someones apartment for their business. She says girls will either rent an apartment together and share the expense monthly but use it only for seeing customers or they will simply rent out an apartment from a friend for the hours needed. Its usually not their own apartment.
On the other hand yes I have had only good experiences with this but I can see the obvious dangers too. I personally arrive and ask the taxi or uber not to leave right away. If she us not willing to video chat to confirm her identity I arrive and then call when I'm outside. I normally ask her to come to the door before I even get out of the taxi or before I let the taxi go. Last thing you want to do is find out its a bait a switch or worse and now are rideless. Just always be a step ahead of them in any scenario and you'll be fine but it shouldn't be too concerning once you confirm the identity.[/QUOTE]Went to one in Laureles last night just off calle 33.
Arrived and rang the bell and a middle aged women slightly opened the door and I had an appointment. She took few seconds opened door and took me into one of the rooms where the girl I had an appointment with was.
Could hear lots of others girls outside. I asked the girl who I was with and she said there was 7 girls working from there.
Was hoping to get a look at them when I left but the girl went out and asked them to go in to one of the other rooms as I left. She said they were told to do that.
Santa Claus has come to town. And it ain't even Christmas yet.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2237729]Exactly my point - "I saw some firefighters and ambulance people put out a car fire near the supermarket parking lot-It was hot out. I bought them a bunch of cold Gatorade and drinks like that. ".
I will pay extra for: a special smile, little bit more effort, that special butt, dressed for the occasion- whatever. I am never trying to throw money, have no need to show off or anything (a losers game) - but I will happily pay extra, a tip, whatever as appropriate. When I am on a holiday, I am not trying to save money- I am trying to spend money. People that make me have fun- I will pay them as appropriate. (And I always pay extra for convenience, and no headaches, and the "extras").
Would like to be branded the "Cheap Charlie", I know there is peer pressure, sales pressure and all that, and all that. At the end of the day - "Whatever makes you Happy".[/QUOTE]
Some girl send me friend reguest on fb I have some chat with her. I not planning come medellin very soon and one girl is not my type so just sharing information maybe someone is interested into this girls couple who accept threesomes for reasonable price (bargain them down to 150 mil each for short time). They are girlfriends and can lick and play each other. Facebok name: luisa mapa (main profile pic 2 girls sitting with bikinis). Ask her send more photos and see will. Add some pic of our conversation.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2237596]So 40 mil is 40,000 pesos, or about $13 US.[/QUOTE]
I thought Mil was Mil and K was Thousand, they seem to be used interchangeably. Google translate - says Mil is Thousand, that settles that.
Also some conversation would have $ thrown in the mix - to maximize the confusion.
And now I too know that, Thanks much,
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238039]I thought Mil was Mil and K was Thousand, they seem to be used interchangeably,[/QUOTE]That is because they both mean thousand. Mil is Spanish for thousand. K is short for kilo, which is the measurement meaning thousand.
[QUOTE=Pokeris;2238025]Some girl send me friend reguest on fb I have some chat with her. I not planning come medellin very soon and one girl is not my type so just sharing information maybe someone is interested into this girls couple who accept threesomes for reasonable price (bargain them down to 150 mil each for short time). They are girlfriends and can lick and play each other. Facebok name: luisa mapa (main profile pic 2 girls sitting with bikinis). Ask her send more photos and see will. Add some pic of our conversation.[/QUOTE]Their FB post seems like a trap. Just 2 posts on the same day and nothing else and the usual MDE FB gringos seems to to have jumped in to post the likes.
Betafin.
[QUOTE=Mufasa1;2236899]There is la isla, San Diego and Luna lunera. Depends what kind of environment you are looking for. I've personally enjoyed the strip clubs in the centro. But if you want something on the higher end then la isla is probably your best bet.[/QUOTE]I'm looking for the lower end. Work for pesos these days! LOL.
What are San Diego and Luna Lunera like (in terms of talent, activity. Are they usually busy or theres nobody there. And price)?
I go into el centro as much for the few beers as anything else. The talent isn't great most of the time.
[QUOTE=BetaFin;2238063]Their FB post seems like a trap. Just 2 posts on the same day and nothing else and the usual MDE FB gringos seems to to have jumped in to post the likes.
Betafin.[/QUOTE]I just sharing. You can make video call with them and find out its a trap or not if you are so suspicious guy.
Does anyone have any good tips on message places? Looking for the ones with a little extra. MDE and surrounding areas welcome, private places too.
Luna Lunera is 24/7. Prime time of course is late afternoon until 2 am Or so. That is when the are most fully staffed. The half hour cost is negotiable from $130 k up to $150 k and beyond. It's easier to get the lower end of the price scale during off peak hours and weekdays. They don't pressure you to buy drinks if you see the lineup and make a selection, or leave. If you sit around enjoying the disco lights and chatting up the girls the waiter will start to hover. The location is convenient to Laureles and Centro, and not terribly far from Poblado when there is no rush hour traffic.
[QUOTE=Joe100;2238080]I'm looking for the lower end. Work for pesos these days! LOL.
What are San Diego and Luna Lunera like (in terms of talent, activity. Are they usually busy or theres nobody there. And price)?
I go into el centro as much for the few beers as anything else. The talent isn't great most of the time.[/QUOTE]
I received friend request from her as well and chatted with her on messenger. She says she is does 3 some only. That concerns me. Why? It doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=BetaFin;2238063]Their FB post seems like a trap. Just 2 posts on the same day and nothing else and the usual MDE FB gringos seems to to have jumped in to post the likes.
Betafin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2238339]Luna Lunera is 24/7. Prime time of course is late afternoon until 2 am Or so. That is when the are most fully staffed. The half hour cost is negotiable from $130 k up to $150 k and beyond. It's easier to get the lower end of the price scale during off peak hours and weekdays. They don't pressure you to buy drinks if you see the lineup and make a selection, or leave. If you sit around enjoying the disco lights and chatting up the girls the waiter will start to hover. The location is convenient to Laureles and Centro, and not terribly far from Poblado when there is no rush hour traffic.[/QUOTE]"half hour cost is negotiable from $130 k up to $150 k".
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238467]"half hour cost is negotiable from $130 k up to $150 k".[/QUOTE]Yep but the rooms are nicer then the centro rooms and the girls avg hottness is higher.
[URL]http://lunalunera.com.co/start/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238467]"half hour cost is negotiable from $130 k up to $150 k".[/QUOTE]I went Monday night around 8. 30 pm. They only had one girl there, who was quite hot but not worth the asking price.
Was quoted 150 mil for 30 minutes by someone who I think was the manager. The girl didn't know the price.
Saw hotter girls at the strip club I went into in El Centro tbh, not sure which one was on the street with 2 or 3 but was raining heavy so just jumped in.
Except westernized areas and places, Colombians do not have the concept of tips. When you tip, it may just look foreign, or strange, behavior. Just imagine foreigners giving water to somebody's garden or giving tips to a college professor.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2237729]Exactly my point - "I saw some firefighters and ambulance people put out a car fire near the supermarket parking lot-It was hot out. I bought them a bunch of cold Gatorade and drinks like that. ".
I will pay extra for: a special smile, little bit more effort, that special butt, dressed for the occasion- whatever. I am never trying to throw money, have no need to show off or anything (a losers game) - but I will happily pay extra, a tip, whatever as appropriate. When I am on a holiday, I am not trying to save money- I am trying to spend money. People that make me have fun- I will pay them as appropriate. (And I always pay extra for convenience, and no headaches, and the "extras").
Would like to be branded the "Cheap Charlie", I know there is peer pressure, sales pressure and all that, and all that. At the end of the day - "Whatever makes you Happy".[/QUOTE]
Does anybody know how to edit / delete your own report.
I tried report post option but seems like its not working. I waited almost 3 days now but the post has not been deleted. Can anybody help.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2238472]Yep but the rooms are nicer then the centro rooms and the girls avg hottness is higher.
[URL]http://lunalunera.com.co/start/[/URL][/QUOTE]
They better be 10+ for that kind of a price.
Nonetheless, I will make it point, Not to go to this place.
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2238507]Does anybody know how to edit / delete your own report.
I tried report post option but seems like its not working. I waited almost 3 days now but the post has not been deleted. Can anybody help.[/QUOTE]You can edit / delete only during a short duration after posting. I don't know the exact duration, like 10 minutes or so. If you got the option then you may have been during the duration, but actually may have to actually repost also within the duration also (not sure)
You can try contacting Admin (don't know how).
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2238507]Does anybody know how to edit / delete your own report.
I tried report post option but seems like its not working. I waited almost 3 days now but the post has not been deleted. Can anybody help.[/QUOTE]They probably won't delete your post unless it violates one of the rules.
For a short time after you write a post, there is an edit button at the bottom of the post. It's only available for a limited time. You can't delete a post.
You guys ever take out the fb chicas or photoprepagos girls for drinks, dinner and sex? Idgaf about wasting money on hookers food and drinks as its fun to get out sometimes with a hottie. Maybe 2 to 4 hours and 1 shaggy time? Wonder how much y'all think is a fair rate for something like that for a girl that charges 150 k / HR for straight sex. Thanks in advance.
I'm heading to Medellin soon and wanted to get recommendations.
1- What should I be paying for taxi for chicas, they all want to add it to the quoted price but I have no idea how much I should be paying.
2- How much for tips? I'm assuming tips are not required but if I decide to, what is a recommended amount?
Thanks!
I am looking for some advice for a first timer to Medellin. I am considering staying at one of the mansions. My concern is safety. I read years ago Medellin used to be a dangerous place. Is there anything to be concerned about if I decide to venture out during the day? I know common sense applies.
I have been to Dominican republic and felt very safe in Sousa day and night. I'd also like to know for those of you who have been to Blackbeards is the mansion a similar environment? My Spanish is not that great, so not sure if that will cause any problems.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238526]They better be 10+ for that kind of a price.
Nonetheless, I will make it point, Not to go to this place.[/QUOTE]Well it's a more upscale club, plus 24 HR, FaseII is 190 k, La Isla is 300 k so not bad as the nicer clubs go, I spend most my time in the Centro clubs too though.
[QUOTE=TropicalDave;2238314]Does anyone have any good tips on message places? Looking for the ones with a little extra. MDE and surrounding areas welcome, private places too.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "a little extra"? Energy is my favorite: Carrera 74 # 49-101. Great lineup and nice rooms, reasonably priced.
For that price you can go the facebook route. You have to leave yourself extra time because some of the facebook girls are not a punctual as we might like. For 150 k to 200 k they will usually hang around an hour or two depending on how you want to spend time in between the two pops you can get. One advantage is the facebook girls are heavily reviewed. Let us know how you make out.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238526]They better be 10+ for that kind of a price.
Nonetheless, I will make it point, Not to go to this place.[/QUOTE]
Click on the Link on the left and pick a choice.
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2238507]Does anybody know how to edit / delete your own report.
I tried report post option but seems like its not working. I waited almost 3 days now but the post has not been deleted. Can anybody help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2238685]You guys ever take out the fb chicas or photoprepagos girls for drinks, dinner and sex? Idgaf about wasting money on hookers food and drinks as its fun to get out sometimes with a hottie. Maybe 2 to 4 hours and 1 shaggy time? Wonder how much y'all think is a fair rate for something like that for a girl that charges 150 k / HR for straight sex. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Personally I never paid extra for that. I had a few meet me for drinks, sometimes dinner as well and once a movie, followed by usually 2 or 3 hours of in room fun. Paid all either 150 or 200 k, plus 20 k for taxi.
However, in most cases this was with women I had previous experience with. In the one exception I remember, I used meeting for drinks as a chance to pre-screen the girl.
I avoid women who charge by the hour, unless I'm going to a casa. I'd also avoid any arrangement where you're paying someone to eat, drink, dance or whatever with you. Most will be happy to do those things for free, as long as you're buying.
Which brings us to the disclaimer. Be wary of girls who want to bring along a sister, cousin or friends. You'll likely end up with a big bar bill and disappointment.
[QUOTE=Luminous;2238688]I'm heading to Medellin soon and wanted to get recommendations.
1- What should I be paying for taxi for chicas, they all want to add it to the quoted price but I have no idea how much I should be paying.
2- How much for tips? I'm assuming tips are not required but if I decide to, what is a recommended amount?
Thanks![/QUOTE]1. No more than 20 k for taxi.
2. 10 minutes or 20 k is sufficient, but not necessary.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2238655]They probably won't delete your post unless it violates one of the rules.
For a short time after you write a post, there is an edit button at the bottom of the post. It's only available for a limited time. You can't delete a post.[/QUOTE]With edit you also get the delete option, so both only for limited time.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2238727]Well it's a more upscale club, plus 24 HR, FaseII is 190 k, La Isla is 300 k so not bad as the nicer clubs go, I spend most my time in the Centro clubs too though.[/QUOTE]So the 50 k as popularly advertised is wrong? Or that is for the 5's?
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2238504]Except westernized areas and places, Colombians do not have the concept of tips. When you tip, it may just look foreign, or strange, behavior. Just imagine foreigners giving water to somebody's garden or giving tips to a college professor.[/QUOTE]So no tipping in bars restaurants?
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238803]So the 50 k as popularly advertised is wrong? Or that is for the 5's?[/QUOTE]50 k is the standard 30 minute rate in most casas in El Centro. Most El Centro strip clubs charge 80 k for 30 minutes. Fase Dos charges 180 k for 45 minutes. I can't comment on Luna Lunera, but my understanding was that the rate was a 1 hour rate. That is comparable to Energy or Tantra in Laureles.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238805]So no tipping in bars restaurants?[/QUOTE]Most restaurants include a 10% tip on the bill. There's usually an explanation on the bill that the tip is voluntary. Quite often a waiter, when you ask for the check will ask of they should include service (servicio). They're asking if they should add the 10% tip.
Many bars will, if you're running a tab, also include the tip. However, if I spend a lot of time in a bar, I'll give the waitress a 5 k tip. This pays off. Service is better and some are interested in some after hours employment opportunities. Or they know someone who they think you'll like. If you're visiting just a few places, a couple dollars per visit can be a good investment.
[QUOTE=Luminous;2238688]I'm heading to Medellin soon and wanted to get recommendations.
1- What should I be paying for taxi for chicas, they all want to add it to the quoted price but I have no idea how much I should be paying.
2- How much for tips? I'm assuming tips are not required but if I decide to, what is a recommended amount?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Map with prices (make sure you update info for community) [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=6.214238027618255[/URL], -75.57967324999998&hl=en&z=13&mid=1 yqa6 HC-rhrQ3 mi_1 LPy6 G3 pMum0.
Taxi. Take uber. It's illegal there so get in the front seat and pretend like you are getting picked up by a friend. Taxis will take you through traffic and out of the way.
Get sim for uber - [URL]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CMD4VKC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL].
Chicas - 30 k cop for street girls, 50 k for most casas (30 minutes), 150 k for strip clubs (1 hour? 150-250 k for facebook girls (1 hour, maybe the whole night? Some norm night clubs 250-300 k (1 hour).
Tips - [URL]http://www.whototip.net/tipping-in-colombia[/URL].
Tips for girls. I tipped 20 k at a casa they looked at me like I was crazy. I suggest just getting add ONS at the start like assuring you get BBBJ or even BBFS for an extra 50 k.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238805]So no tipping in bars restaurants?[/QUOTE]Just do what you think feels right man.
Anyone in the service industry appreciates a tip.
Doesn't have to be much at all.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2238727]Well it's a more upscale club, plus 24 HR, FaseII is 190 k, La Isla is 300 k so not bad as the nicer clubs go, I spend most my time in the Centro clubs too though.[/QUOTE]Any club recommendations, any good place for FLs. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238803]So the 50 k as popularly advertised is wrong? Or that is for the 5's?[/QUOTE]No, 50 k will get the job done in lots of Casa's and some Centro strip clubs (I've been quoted 80 k mostly in the big 3 Centro clubs though) And there are some hot street action on occasion for 30 k to 60 k. But at the up scale Casa's (Loutron, Energy) and up scale strip clubs, no. The street chicks run from 100% natural like Sarah here to 100% Jessica Rabbit like Diana here:
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238871]Any club recommendations, any good place for FLs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]What are "FL"s?
My fav's downtown are.
Barra Ejecutiva.
Calle 53 #48-20.
And next door:
Maracaibo.
And a few blocks away:
Conejitas.
Calle 53 #51-41.
Of the 3 Conejitas has the nicest rooms. The ones at Barra Ejecutiva can get kinda hot. Since they have no cover I wonder in and out of all three.
Its your money.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238805]So no tipping in bars restaurants?[/QUOTE]
Tips are included in restaurant and bar bills. Look for the word "propina". You can add more if you like, or you can deduct the amount of the tip if you don't think the service was adequate. You can round up taxi fares but it is not expected.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2238805]So no tipping in bars restaurants?[/QUOTE]
On occasion I have gone out with a puta for dinner or to a club / disco. But I don't recall every doing it on our first appointment, because you don't know how it's going to go. I would usually do this is I wanted to have some company to go out and I felt reasonably good that she would be fun to be with. As for money, I never give them any extra. And as long as they know they are going to be paid for fucking you (either before or after), then are fine. Because they normally do not get such treatment by the average Colombian. Just be prepared to have all of the food and drink you buy photographed so they can look good to their friends.
[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2238685]You guys ever take out the fb chicas or photoprepagos girls for drinks, dinner and sex? Idgaf about wasting money on hookers food and drinks as its fun to get out sometimes with a hottie. Maybe 2 to 4 hours and 1 shaggy time? Wonder how much y'all think is a fair rate for something like that for a girl that charges 150 k / HR for straight sex. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I TOTALLY agree with this. Don't do it. You'll be sorry. You need her 1 on 1.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2238793]
Which brings us to the disclaimer. Be wary of girls who want to bring along a sister, cousin or friends. You'll likely end up with a big bar bill and disappointment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2238904]I TOTALLY agree with this. Don't do it. You'll be sorry. You need her 1 on 1.[/QUOTE]It is common in Colombia to bring a chaperone on your first date, but if she's a hooker I don't see the point.
Personally, as far as prepagos go, I've found fuck'them first then dance with them and have dinner and fuck'them again for the price of one fuck works out better.
[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99;2238701]I am looking for some advice for a first timer to Medellin. I am considering staying at one of the mansions. My concern is safety. I read years ago Medellin used to be a dangerous place. Is there anything to be concerned about if I decide to venture out during the day? I know common sense applies.
I have been to Dominican republic and felt very safe in Sousa day and night. I'd also like to know for those of you who have been to Blackbeards is the mansion a similar environment? My Spanish is not that great, so not sure if that will cause any problems.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Your concerns remind me of my first trip outside the US and to Latin America a thousand years ago. I went to Rio. This was pre-Internet and I didn't have that to fall back on. I planned my first week in Rio and the second week in a Club Med about 2 hours outside Rio. The reason for Club Med was that I was paranoid that I would be lost without some structure. I had a fantastic time the first week in Rio. I managed to learn a little Portuguese and that was enough to get by. Actually, the cariocas laughed at my Portuguese (it's a tough language!) but appreciated that I at least tried to speak it. I think you'll find the same attitude in Medellin and wherever you go. After one day in Club Med, I left and went back to Rio. I hated the gated community (I could have been in Disneyland for all I knew) and loved the adventure of discovering Rio on my own. Although I'm not intimately familiar with Blackbeards, I equate it to something like Club Med, sort of a gated community.
Traveling is a wonderful adventure. Having some fear beforehand is only natural.
Your questions are impossible to answer without more info.
Perhaps this will help. I've been traveling, mostly solo, for 30 years. The purpose of my trips are never primarily to monger, though it's often secondary. What is your reason or reasons for going to Medellin or is it just to monger? For example, on my last trip a few months ago to Medellin, my primary purpose was mountain biking. However, I did my share of mongering.
I like the thrill of traveling and adventure. I'm spoiled and want decent accommodations, not necessarily upscale. In Medellin, for me that means spending $50+/ night. What is your budget?
My Spanish is only basic (but improving) but I've never had a problem in any of the many Latin American countries I visited. If you can speak basic Spanish and brush up on it before your trip, Medellin won't be a problem. Of course it would be better to speak fluent Spanish, but it's not a dealbreaker.
While I am far from an expert on Medellin, most places other than certain parts of El Centro are safe if you exercise common sense. Others can direct you to specific areas if you supply more info. Personally, I would never consider staying at a place like Blackbeards. To each his own, but I like to immerse myself as much as possible in the culture of the area I'm staying in.
You may want to consider Poblado though it's not my cup of snot. It's safe and lack of Spanish is not a problem. It's also expensive and touristy, the latter reason being a dealbreaker for me. It depends what you're looking for.
While I'm here, I've been on Vane's whatsapp list for a couple of months now. I know it's a matter of taste, but I find the the vast majority of girls gross and wouldn't pay a peso for their company. Too much silicone and tatoos. Anyone else feel the same?
[QUOTE=Jooks;2238923]While I'm here, I've been on Vane's whatsapp list for a couple of months now. I know it's a matter of taste, but I find the the vast majority of girls gross and wouldn't pay a peso for their company. Too much silicone and tatoos. Anyone else feel the same?[/QUOTE]Quite a few do not interest me. However, some of the girls are awesome.
[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99;2238701]I am looking for some advice for a first timer to Medellin. I am considering staying at one of the mansions. My concern is safety. I read years ago Medellin used to be a dangerous place. Is there anything to be concerned about if I decide to venture out during the day? I know common sense applies.
I have been to Dominican republic and felt very safe in Sousa day and night. I'd also like to know for those of you who have been to Blackbeards is the mansion a similar environment? My Spanish is not that great, so not sure if that will cause any problems.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been to both BB in the DR and the mansion in Medellin about a dozen times. Mansion is even a lot better environment cause it is located in the financial part ok MDE. Much like a high class part of large US city. Fancy malls, etc. Mansion girls ion my opinion are hotter. Only difference is there is no set schedule for girls. They came in & out as they please, but are vetted, like BB girls. Bad ones will be banned from there. I find MDE to be safer than Sousa. I've been all over the city in the day. Of course I avoid the ghetto neighborhoods. Water is safe to drink. MDE is a first world country with 3rd world prices.
[QUOTE=Jooks;2238923]While I'm here, I've been on Vane's whatsapp list for a couple of months now. I know it's a matter of taste, but I find the the vast majority of girls gross and wouldn't pay a peso for their company. Too much silicone and tatoos. Anyone else feel the same?[/QUOTE]I request to join too. I agree that most girls are not good looking, more like "barrio" girls and yes with lots of tatoos, some times I like tatoos but usually not my first choice, but also have to admit few girls looks really really good. The truth is that I have not asked for any girl, since also I do not feel comfortable with an intermediary, I would prefer to contact one of the girls that have accepted me on FB.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2238916]It is common in Colombia to bring a chaperone on your first date, but if she's a hooker I don't see the point.
Personally, as far as prepagos go, I've found fuck'them first then dance with them and have dinner and fuck'them again for the price of one fuck works out better.[/QUOTE]
Totally haha.
A lot of first time FB girl want to bring a friend along, go to a club or parque lleras or just go out to eat and have you pay their taxis and drinks + with the plan to go back to your place at the end. The good thing about this is for the cost of a taxi and a couple of drinks, you can meet a couple of chicas and walk if you are not into it.
To me that is the opposite of my M. O. Fuck them first. If its worth a repeat, maybe some other time we can go out and pretend we are on a real date.
Although, on occasion, bringing a friend a long (to my place) seems like a no strings attached opportunity to meet another hottie. Sometimes that has worked out to my advantage, sometimes not. But overall, it has been worth taking the chance. You gotta ask for pics and feel out the situation.
Hi,
My first visit to Medellin will be this weekend. I am interested in visiting one or two of the casas, preferably in the lower price range. I have looked at the PDF and done some research, but would appreciate anyone with recent experience at any of them to share. I am considering New Life and / or Paris Club, but see that there are many more, and thus would appreciate hearing about any recent experience any members have had. I'll share my experience when I get back.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2239241]Hi,
My first visit to Medellin will be this weekend. I am interested in visiting one or two of the casas, preferably in the lower price range. I have looked at the PDF and done some research, but would appreciate anyone with recent experience at any of them to share. I am considering New Life and / or Paris Club, but see that there are many more, and thus would appreciate hearing about any recent experience any members have had. I'll share my experience when I get back.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just start at New Life and go from there.
No need to complicate it.
Just go.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2239241]Hi,
My first visit to Medellin will be this weekend. I am interested in visiting one or two of the casas, preferably in the lower price range. I have looked at the PDF and done some research, but would appreciate anyone with recent experience at any of them to share. I am considering New Life and / or Paris Club, but see that there are many more, and thus would appreciate hearing about any recent experience any members have had. I'll share my experience when I get back.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you want recent reports, just read the forum. As Balboa noted, start at New Life. There are other casas in the same vicinity that are easy walking distance from each other. During daytime, the area is perfectly fine. I went to Aiffe, which was nice, but nothing extraordinary. Many more casas are just a short cab ride away. Its all easier than you think. As always, bring your own quality rubbers (unless you have a problem with premature ejaculation), because the casas all stock the same cheap condoms that WGs use worldwide from Berlin to Bali. Don't acquiesce to pleas for a tip, unless you feel like giving them one and the service was good. Fair warning: I found the WGs in Medellin to give the most consistently mediocre service of the nine or so destinations I've mongered at in recent history. Of course, your mileage will vary, and you might have better luck that I did in Medellin. (In the DR, the service tends to be good or bad, and you can't trust the Dominicanas.) However, the Colombianas are typically respectful and give you the time and services that you pay for. Just don't expect French kisses, analingus or anything unprotected. Keep your expectations reasonable and you should have a good time.
I think you will find Diviniwomen and Zandaly to your liking based on recent information. You can find their addresses and more information by searching this forum or the entire Internet via google.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2239241]Hi,
My first visit to Medellin will be this weekend. I am interested in visiting one or two of the casas, preferably in the lower price range. I have looked at the PDF and done some research, but would appreciate anyone with recent experience at any of them to share. I am considering New Life and / or Paris Club, but see that there are many more, and thus would appreciate hearing about any recent experience any members have had. I'll share my experience when I get back.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Will report back on my experience.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2239276]Just start at New Life and go from there.
No need to complicate it.
Just go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2239440]I think you will find Diviniwomen and Zandaly to your liking based on recent information. You can find their addresses and more information by searching this forum or the entire Internet via google.[/QUOTE]Will check them out, and report back.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2239397]If you want recent reports, just read the forum. As Balboa noted, start at New Life. There are other casas in the same vicinity that are easy walking distance from each other. During daytime, the area is perfectly fine. I went to Aiffe, which was nice, but nothing extraordinary. Many more casas are just a short cab ride away. Its all easier than you think. As always, bring your own quality rubbers (unless you have a problem with premature ejaculation), because the casas all stock the same cheap condoms that WGs use worldwide from Berlin to Bali. Don't acquiesce to pleas for a tip, unless you feel like giving them one and the service was good. Fair warning: I found the WGs in Medellin to give the most consistently mediocre service of the nine or so destinations I've mongered at in recent history. Of course, your mileage will vary, and you might have better luck that I did in Medellin. (In the DR, the service tends to be good or bad, and you can't trust the Dominicanas.) However, the Colombianas are typically respectful and give you the time and services that you pay for. Just don't expect French kisses, analingus or anything unprotected. Keep your expectations reasonable and you should have a good time.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the extra information.
Planning a trip to MDE in a month. Have the several FB girls in my friends list and will be using few. But have a fantasy to be with a English speaking (even a little) sweet university student between 18-22 with a natural body and no baby damage. I know several mongers doesn't even want to share the publicly available FB girls. That's fine, But Let's not turn this request as argumentative.
If any of the Genuine monger want to share such a girl, please PM me. Thanks in advance.
Betafin.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2239397]If you want recent reports, just read the forum. As Balboa noted, start at New Life. There are other casas in the same vicinity that are easy walking distance from each other. During daytime, the area is perfectly fine. I went to Aiffe, which was nice, but nothing extraordinary. Many more casas are just a short cab ride away. Its all easier than you think. As always, bring your own quality rubbers (unless you have a problem with premature ejaculation), because the casas all stock the same cheap condoms that WGs use worldwide from Berlin to Bali. Don't acquiesce to pleas for a tip, unless you feel like giving them one and the service was good. Fair warning: I found the WGs in Medellin to give the most consistently mediocre service of the nine or so destinations I've mongered at in recent history. Of course, your mileage will vary, and you might have better luck that I did in Medellin. (In the DR, the service tends to be good or bad, and you can't trust the Dominicanas.) However, the Colombianas are typically respectful and give you the time and services that you pay for. Just don't expect French kisses, analingus or anything unprotected. Keep your expectations reasonable and you should have a good time.[/QUOTE]
Interesting: "WGs in Medellin to give the most consistently mediocre service" - oh well.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2238875]What are "C
My fav's downtown are.
Barra Ejecutiva- Calle 53 #48-20.
And next door:
Maracaibo- And a few blocks away:
Conejitas- Calle 53 #51-41.
Of the 3 Conejitas has the nicest rooms. The ones at Barra Ejecutiva can get kinda hot. Since they have no cover I wonder in and out of all three.[/QUOTE]Wolf:
I try avoid using acronyms, but some of them are common. FLs - Free Lancers, yeah so any good FL joints. I suppose Mansion would qualify as a FL joint (I am not staying there), staying initially at EL Pob.
Or we just look for SWs (Street Walkers) - any particular areas for this. I generally avoid SWs- the range could vary a lot,is this the case also in Medellin.
BTW (By the Way) - thanks for this list, would be a helpful start. Need more.
Sam.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2238875]What are "FL"s?
My fav's downtown are.
Barra Ejecutiva.
Calle 53 #48-20.
And next door:.[/QUOTE]Could have just been a one off but I had a really bad experience at Maracaibo.
First time in Colombia, I went to o Maracaibo and the owner was nice enough to show me where the ATM was like two or three blocks away. I went into the club and a woman sat next to me and started chatting me up in Spanish. My Spanish was really bad so we used a translator. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back.
Wasted 60 - 80 k in money I didn't get back and drinks which is $25 bucks in about 5 minutes of lies.
I went to new life next and it was way better. The girls did everything they said they were going to do, it was cheap but they did lack passion. I'm heading back next week and I've mapped out a few casas, fb girls and strip clubs I want to try out. Hopefully I'll get a girl with a lot of "energy" next (pun intended).
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2239695]Wolf:
I try avoid using acronyms, but some of them are common.Sam.[/QUOTE]Jackson never disappoints:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations[/URL]
If you bare going to Colombia chuck this site out [URL]https://theunconventionalroute.com/best-neighborhoods-in-medellin/[/URL].
I hope this turns out.
Several reports indicate chicas flaking out on outcall appointments. Some show up pretty late, some don't show up at all. I was wondering if BMs would shed more insight on incall with prepagos.
Several ads only offer incall. Whats the deal in going to their apartment? Ads typically mention safe discreet locations. (I. E. Going to their apartment). Several ads ask mongers to come to apartments in Belen, Envigado, Laurales etc. How safe is it? Is this too much of risk for someone not familiar with Medellin?
Of the three sites: Miloerticos, Photoprepagos and pasionprepagos. Which one is more reliable and any feedback on what to look for in such ads is much appreciated.
Any other insight or tips on incall and outcall from prepago sites?
Hey,
I will be in Medellin for 5 days what are the prices for false dos and la isla?
Is false dos opened on Sunday? What time they open and close?(false dos and la isla).
Thank you.
Thanks for that, it is a cute an quirky guide. I think it could be useful for people who have never been to Medellin. I found it funny that the description of La Candelaria / Centro was two sentences long. That tells you more about the authors than the neighborhood. The descriptions of every other area was much longer. When I saw the photo of the tourist looking at a sculpture in Plaza Botero, I thought to myself that the photographer must have taken quite a few shots from that angle to come up with a photo with no street girls. It's completely unrealistic, and I understand the thinking behind the decision.
[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2239944]If you bare going to Colombia chuck this site out [URL]https://theunconventionalroute.com/best-neighborhoods-in-medellin/[/URL].
I hope this turns out.[/QUOTE]
I will be in Medellín for 5 days. What are the prices at La Isla and Fase Dos and what time they open and close? Is false dos opened on Sunday? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2239733]Could have just been a one off but I had a really bad experience at Maracaibo.
I went to new life next and it was way better. The girls did everything they said they were going to do, it was cheap but they did lack passion. I'm heading back next week and I've mapped out a few casas, fb girls and strip clubs I want to try out. Hopefully I'll get a girl with a lot of "energy" next (pun intended).[/QUOTE]Duncan- Happy mongering, please share your casa finds. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2240020]Several reports indicate chicas flaking out on outcall appointments. Some show up pretty late, some don't show up at all. I was wondering if BMs would shed more insight on incall with prepagos.
Several ads only offer incall. Whats the deal in going to their apartment? Ads typically mention safe discreet locations. (I. E. Going to their apartment). Several ads ask mongers to come to apartments in Belen, Envigado, Laurales etc. How safe is it? Is this too much of risk for someone not familiar with Medellin?
Of the three sites: Miloerticos, Photoprepagos and pasionprepagos. Which one is more reliable and any feedback on what to look for in such ads is much appreciated.
Any other insight or tips on incall and outcall from prepago sites?[/QUOTE]Hey as someone who has used those sites 100's of times I will say this. In short, yes Incall to their apartment is safe.
A lot of girls have apartments they rent just to work out of during daylight hours. It's funny, if you do this enough you'll actually run into the same buildings just different floors haha.
That said, of course watch your back and always have your guard up. For the most part in terms of sites I find.
Photoprepagos yields great talent, the filters really help you find what you are looking for and 95% of the girls on the site at real. Another sleeper is masajistaspaisas. Every girl I seen on there is real. They all have good apartments, clean with a shower etc. Now milerotics, that is sometimes the Wild West. For the most part I find real girls, however I have gotten some bait and switch. It is always best to reverse phone number look up. Sometimes you'll find the same number on different sites with the same photo, that is ususally a good tell. A lot of these girls will whatsapp with you and from time to time I will get a real face Photo.
There is an art to getting an indie in this country. DM me if you had any questions.
[QUOTE=Loul86;2240147]Hey,
I will be in Medellin for 5 days what are the prices for false dos and la isla?
Is false dos opened on Sunday? What time they open and close?(false dos and la isla).
Thank you.[/QUOTE]First of all, learn the name. It is Fase II (fase dos). Learn how to pronounce it in Spanish. They have a website with all the information you requested. I don't know the hours for La Isla.
A friend of mine asked me to post this. I'd go if I was there. Actually I did go last year and had a good time.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2240349]Hey as someone who has used those sites 100's of times I will say this. In short, yes Incall to their apartment is safe.
A lot of girls have apartments they rent just to work out of during daylight hours. It's funny, if you do this enough you'll actually run into the same buildings just different floors haha.
That said, of course watch your back and always have your guard up. For the most part in terms of sites I find.
Photoprepagos yields great talent, the filters really help you find what you are looking for and 95% of the girls on the site at real. Another sleeper is masajistaspaisas. Every girl I seen on there is real. They all have good apartments, clean with a shower etc. Now milerotics, that is sometimes the Wild West. For the most part I find real girls, however I have gotten some bait and switch. It is always best to reverse phone number look up. Sometimes you'll find the same number on different sites with the same photo, that is ususally a good tell. A lot of these girls will whatsapp with you and from time to time I will get a real face Photo.
There is an art to getting an indie in this country. DM me if you had any questions.[/QUOTE]Are there particular independents you would recommend for exceptional quality of service.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2240356]First of all, learn the name. It is Fase II (fase dos). Learn how to pronounce it in Spanish. They have a website with all the information you requested. I don't know the hours for La Isla.[/QUOTE]La Isla is the most expensive based on my experience a year ago. My buddy was going to go and he was told as high as 600 k. I'd steer clear.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2240020]Several reports indicate chicas flaking out on outcall appointments. Some show up pretty late, some don't show up at all. I was wondering if BMs would shed more insight on incall with prepagos.
Several ads only offer incall. Whats the deal in going to their apartment? Ads typically mention safe discreet locations. (I. E. Going to their apartment). Several ads ask mongers to come to apartments in Belen, Envigado, Laurales etc. How safe is it? Is this too much of risk for someone not familiar with Medellin?
Of the three sites: Miloerticos, Photoprepagos and pasionprepagos. Which one is more reliable and any feedback on what to look for in such ads is much appreciated.
Any other insight or tips on incall and outcall from prepago sites?[/QUOTE]I am not sure how safe, have not taken that services. But on local forums they said girls are usually not alone on those apartments. One girl try to scam a guy, pay up front, then the girl went to bathroom and when she came back she said he took her money and there were other persons not allowing him to go out until paid again. Not sure if is common, risk is always there, I think is not common but just to be aware.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2240349]Hey as someone who has used those sites 100's of times I will say this. In short, yes Incall to their apartment is safe.
A lot of girls have apartments they rent just to work out of during daylight hours. It's funny, if you do this enough you'll actually run into the same buildings just different floors haha.
That said, of course watch your back and always have your guard up. For the most part in terms of sites I find.
Photoprepagos yields great talent, the filters really help you find what you are looking for and 95% of the girls on the site at real. Another sleeper is masajistaspaisas. Every girl I seen on there is real. They all have good apartments, clean with a shower etc. Now milerotics, that is sometimes the Wild West. For the most part I find real girls, however I have gotten some bait and switch. It is always best to reverse phone number look up. Sometimes you'll find the same number on different sites with the same photo, that is usually a good tell. A lot of these girls will whatsapp with you and from time to time I will get a real face Photo.
There is an art to getting an indie in this country. DM me if you had any questions.[/QUOTE]Checked out a few of the sites. Rates indicated are $150 K. Do they mean 150 K COP? (better be). So that is the general going rate.
But otherwise deemed reliable and safe (within reason), can we call girls to hotel etc. Any Taxi fare issues to deal with. Without Spanish all this would be hard to negotiate and communicate.
Thanks.
Sam.
Gorgeous and friendly girl. But on the expensive side at 250 k but great all the way. Others have noted she is 250 k. She is naturally pretty and great body.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2240371]A friend of mine asked me to post this. I'd go if I was there. Actually I did go last year and had a good time.[/QUOTE]I hear they dress up at the Mansion as well. I'd love to be in Medellin for Halloween to see those girls dressed in sexy outfits. Hopefully some guys on here who are in town can take some photos and share them here.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2240425]But on local forums they said girls are usually not alone on those apartments. One girl try to scam a guy, pay up front, then the girl went to bathroom and when she came back she said he took her money and there were other persons not allowing him to go out until paid again. Not sure if is common, risk is always there, I think is not common but just to be aware.[/QUOTE]Can you share that forum or send me a private message? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2240722]I hear they dress up at the Mansion as well. I'd love to be in Medellin for Halloween to see those girls dressed in sexy outfits. Hopefully some guys on here who are in town can take some photos and share them here.[/QUOTE]Isn't Mansion only for people who stay there? (And where is Mansion anyway?
Thanks.
We went to La Isla lots of beautiful girls. I tried a different approach this time. My friends took 2 different girls and went up and the house fee is 300 k total for 45 minutes. I chatted up a hot girl and decided to get her # for another night. I didn't partake. Last trip here I got bombarded with the name calling for spending too much at Gustos. LOL. However I do understand your points so decided to see just how low these girls will go and not settle on their price.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2240826]Isn't Mansion only for people who stay there? (And where is Mansion anyway?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]For parties The Mansion usually allows non guests to attend. Not sure what the fee is.
Search for Hotel Medellin Plaza and you can find the location.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2240855]For parties The Mansion usually allows non guests to attend. Not sure what the fee is.
Search for Hotel Medellin Plaza and you can find the location.[/QUOTE]Google does not find Medellin Plaza. Is Mansion also Hotel M- that is what shows up in Google maps.
There are photos of past Halloween parties on the Internet. I think I might have seen some on this site.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2240722]I hear they dress up at the Mansion as well. I'd love to be in Medellin for Halloween to see those girls dressed in sexy outfits. Hopefully some guys on here who are in town can take some photos and share them here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2240760]Can you share that forum or send me a private message? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Google: catador prepagos medellin.
Click on first link, everything is in spanish, but some reviews of girls on mil eorticos and photo pregapagos.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2240854]We went to La Isla lots of beautiful girls. I tried a different approach this time. My friends took 2 different girls and went up and the house fee is 300 k total for 45 minutes. I chatted up a hot girl and decided to get her # for another night. I didn't partake. Last trip here I got bombarded with the name calling for spending too much at Gustos. LOL. However I do understand your points so decided to see just how low these girls will go and not settle on their price.[/QUOTE]If you're looking to spend big bucks go to Sao Paulo, Brazil. There's a club there, multi-floor, excellent food, whiskey, and porn star quality women called Scandaloo. I genuinely don't get why spending 200 USD in Gustos for barrio rats makes any sense. Get your money's worth is my advice.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2240978]If you're looking to spend big bucks go to Sao Paulo, Brazil. There's a club there, multi-floor, excellent food, whiskey, and porn star quality women called Scandaloo. I genuinely don't get why spending 200 USD in Gustos for barrio rats makes any sense. Get your money's worth is my advice.[/QUOTE]One can also go to Cafe Photo in Sao Paulo and spend even more.
Do they do girl on girl shows at Lunera Lunera or masturbation shows?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2240855]For parties The Mansion usually allows non guests to attend. Not sure what the fee is.
Search for Hotel Medellin Plaza and you can find the location.[/QUOTE]The party is on the 26th and open to non guests, price is $200 K for guests staying at the hotel and $220 K for non guests, open bar. Shit tons of girls attend.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2240976]Google: catador prepagos medellin.
Click on first link, everything is in spanish, but some reviews of girls on mil eorticos and photo pregapagos.[/QUOTE]I just did and most of the girls I skimmed through were asking for 150 k or less (a lot at 100 k). That's what the locals pay people! Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2240978].............................. I genuinely don't get why spending 200 USD in Gustos for barrio rats makes any sense...............[/QUOTE]That's a somewhat harsh description. Love the women, don't hate them!
I remember a few years back the mansion sent out pics from their party. Can we get that again or from people that were there for us poor schmucks that didn't have the pleasure of being there.
Beside Bar Gustos, is there any other bar where most of the girls are mainly prepagos. I heard about Bendito seas, but not sure if there is more a normal disco and maybe with just few prepagos.
I remember seen one more on Lleras, not sure if it was something like Hacienda, but that day very few girls where there.
Also for casas that suppose to be more high end, what is recommended, I have not seen comments on Loutron or Candy house, are they worth the price? I am usually looking for young looking and natural girs without silicone and better without too many tatoos.
I'm not the biggest drinker so close to half a million pesos to pick amongst facebook girls in costumes and rub elbows with the Cafe Juan Valdez crowd is not the deal for me. I hope others enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2241052]The party is on the 26th and open to non guests, price is $200 K for guests staying at the hotel and $220 K for non guests, open bar. Shit tons of girls attend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chaman;2241170]Also for casas that suppose to be more high end, what is recommended, I have not seen comments on Loutron or Candy house, are they worth the price? I am usually looking for young looking and natural girs without silicone and better without too many tatoos.[/QUOTE]Seeing that the ones with silicone and tattoos is usually what is called more high end, I think you have a choice to make.
OK, I'll be the one to say it. You are going to have to come down, see for yourself, then decide what you like. Loutron is among the most expensive, Energy / Luna Lunera / Tantra are generally considered mid range places and the three are fairly near each other in the Laureles area. The Fase II strip club is among the more expensive and there are always a few pretty girls there. Use the search feature here and on the rest of the Internet for more details.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2241178]Seeing that the ones with silicone and tattoos is usually what is called more high end, I think you have a choice to make.[/QUOTE]
Cool chick real sweet. GFE. Nice BBBJ. Cute girl next door type with braces which I didn't see until she got here but was fine. 200 k total.
Went to Gustos at night just to see the talent didn't pull since I know the asking price is 200 $$.
I got to say tho tons and tons of foreigners more than usual from my past experiences and these guys are sweeping up all these girls at 200 $ and maybe even more so now I'm understanding why girls think they're hot shit.
All they need to do is pull one client every weekend and they're set.
I hear all these guys talking outside by the balcony area of how much the girls want etc etc and now I find myself laughing cause I know better than to pull from there.
Unless I see an absolute stunner that I just got to have. I wouldn't even consider it but it is fun to go check it out and have a drink or 2.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2241170]Beside Bar Gustos, is there any other bar where most of the girls are mainly prepagos. I heard about Bendito seas, but not sure if there is more a normal disco and maybe with just few prepagos.
I remember seen one more on Lleras, not sure if it was something like Hacienda, but that day very few girls where there.
Also for casas that suppose to be more high end, what is recommended, I have not seen comments on Loutron or Candy house, are they worth the price? I am usually looking for young looking and natural girs without silicone and better without too many tatoos.[/QUOTE]There are dozens of more normal discos. Most discos, especially on Friday and Saturday nights, will have at least a few working girls. Working girls in Medellin like to go to discos on the weekends. Quite a few of the discos know this and frequently offer free drinks to women.
If you go to the high end places, looking for the high end girls, you're mostly going to find silicone and tattoos. The Colombian ideal is big boobs, big butts. So they go out and get the option package as soon as they can afford it.
If you're looking for good looking Colombian girls with no tattoos and no silicone, you're looking for a possible long visit in one of Colombia's fine government run extended stay facilities.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2241132]That's a somewhat harsh description. Love the women, don't hate them![/QUOTE]Touche! It certainly was. Didn't mean to phrase it harshly.
I don't get what is so special about Gusto. I've been there many times. I got chicas to leave for 200 k no problem. I even have a report from a year ago where I got the chica the same night to agree to 200 k after she left Gusto and saw me in the beer store.
It's kinda funny. Out of all places to over price it's just a dance club. You go there on the weekend and its just civilians.
Why is every other post, or so it seems, about how much one is supposed to pay, bragging about how little one pays, blah blah?
Not to digress, but I had to change plans about going to MDE in November due to work. I'm thinking of January. Is that considered low season and less touristy?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2241172]I'm not the biggest drinker so close to half a million pesos to pick amongst facebook girls in costumes and rub elbows with the Cafe Juan Valdez crowd is not the deal for me. I hope others enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Where did you get a half million pesos from? The price is $220,less than a quarter of a million pesos,75 bucks for a night out having a good time is too much? Wow.
I was including the cost of one of the girls. I assumed that they are part of the attraction. It was mentioned that many attractive women attend the party. I did not mean to offend anyone by suggesting we could fuck them at 200 k or so each. Was I wrong?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2241335]Where did you get a half million pesos from? The price is $220,less than a quarter of a million pesos,75 bucks for a night out having a good time is too much? Wow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241302]If you're looking for good looking Colombian girls with no tattoos and no silicone, you're looking for a possible long visit in one of Colombia's fine government run extended stay facilities.[/QUOTE]What is this extended stay option? I have never heard of it. Hehe.
High end is often silicone (ass and tits), but not necessarily tatoos. I have seen lots of high end girls with no tatoos or, if they have one, it's one and its small and tasteful. IMO, tatoos are ore for the true ghetto girls. Especially the ones that have sleeves or large tats on their thighs. Or tatoos that are poorly done.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2241178]Seeing that the ones with silicone and tattoos is usually what is called more high end, I think you have a choice to make.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241302]... If you're looking for good looking Colombian girls with no tattoos and no silicone, you're looking for a possible long visit in one of Colombia's fine government run extended stay facilities.[/QUOTE]You are implying that only under-aged girls have no tattoos or silicon enhancements. You have been in Medellin long enough to know better. I have almost a hundred female acquaintances in Medellin, all 18 and over, and probably half of those have no tattoos or enhancements. Other guys have said that many of them are very attractive.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241302]There are dozens of more normal discos. Most discos, especially on Friday and Saturday nights, will have at least a few working girls. Working girls in Medellin like to go to discos on the weekends. Quite a few of the discos know this and frequently offer free drinks to women.
If you go to the high end places, looking for the high end girls, you're mostly going to find silicone and tattoos. The Colombian ideal is big boobs, big butts. So they go out and get the option package as soon as they can afford it.
If you're looking for good looking Colombian girls with no tattoos and no silicone, you're looking for a possible long visit in one of Colombia's fine government run extended stay facilities.[/QUOTE]Are you sure it is all of Colombia or is it a product of the narco culture of primarily Medellin and partially Cali? I am talking about the enhancements and not the tattos.
I face the risk to be overwhelmed by a load of RTFFs. Be free to do that. I won't complain. Still I hope someone can shed a light on this with a summary of his knowledge.
I will arrive to MDE airport late at night (22:30). Therefore, even assuming instant luggage delivery, I will be in city not before 23:30.
I have a very old SIM card by Movistar for calls, which apparently never expires (it never did in the last 5+ years, and I never registered it, even with 1 year of no use between usage periods), and I also have a Claro SIM for data only, which I am sure expired already after 3 months out of Colombia.
Is there any place in the MDE airport, which is still open after 22:30, which can top up my Movistar card? And even buy a new one for data? In BOG, I know the booths are open till later, but in MDE?
If not, do I have any chance to do that in town around 24:00? I need to have a working SIM card, to get in touch with a lady (not a stunning one, around 30yo, without tattoos, no silicon, yet one of the most incredible naughty ones) the same night even if I am out of the hotel which gives me the WIFI.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2241599]Is there any place in the MDE airport, which is still open after 22:30, which can top up my Movistar card? And even buy a new one for data? In BOG, I know the booths are open till later, but in MDE?[/QUOTE]You can top it up yourself online using several websites. The one I use is etopuponline. Com.
You can use etopup. Com or ezetop. Com to recharge your SIM cards from any Internet connected device. You don't even have to RTFF.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2241599]I face the risk to be overwhelmed by a load of RTFFs. Be free to do that. I won't complain. Still I hope someone can shed a light on this with a summary of his knowledge.
I will arrive to MDE airport late at night (22:30). Therefore, even assuming instant luggage delivery, I will be in city not before 23:30.
I have a very old SIM card by Movistar for calls, which apparently never expires (it never did in the last 5+ years, and I never registered it, even with 1 year of no use between usage periods), and I also have a Claro SIM for data only, which I am sure expired already after 3 months out of Colombia.
Is there any place in the MDE airport, which is still open after 22:30, which can top up my Movistar card? And even buy a new one for data? In BOG, I know the booths are open till later, but in MDE?
If not, do I have any chance to do that in town around 24:00? I need to have a working SIM card, to get in touch with a lady the same night even if I am out of the hotel which gives me the WIFI.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeersTerry;2241592]Are you sure it is all of Colombia or is it a product of the narco culture of primarily Medellin and partially Cali? I am talking about the enhancements and not the tattos.[/QUOTE]When I went on that Pablo Escobar tour, the guide said that it started from chicks trying to impress the drug dealers and get their attention.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2241301] I hear all these guys talking outside by the balcony area of how much the girls want etc etc and now I find myself laughing cause I know better than to pull from there.
Unless I see an absolute stunner that I just got to have. I wouldn't even consider it but it is fun to go check it out and have a drink or 2.[/QUOTE]I think we need educate these guys when possible, the information is available for anyone with little effort. But if these guys keep coming and pay the 200 USD at Gusto, then more girls will flock to Gusto and it should have an effect on the rest of the market long term. This could end up in stunners being hard to get outside of Gusto prices range.
I can't see how these two market can co-exist long term (we shall see), where one is asking 200 USD and next door is asking price 200 K pesos. I know the guys paying 200 USD are still an extreme minority and novice travelers, that's why the the market hasn't changed but when the tourist volume to MDE increases I would expect changes to have an effect. Unless guys stop paying those dumb 200 USD we may have a Morocco situation here which was inflated by rich arabs. I can understand that occasional 200 USD where you say I can't find a girl like this anywhere else but that excuse is not valid in Colombia.
The question is are these guys aware of what they're doing (probably not) to their pocket and possibly the market, because stunners are not exclusive to Gustos. If I heard those guys talking in the balcony I would definitely ask them to open their eyes or fly to Paris or London and pay 200 USD and sleep at a 300 USD hotel, there you can live your western life to the fullest and no need to learn spanish, win-win.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2241599]I face the risk to be overwhelmed by a load of RTFFs. Be free to do that. I won't complain. Still I hope someone can shed a light on this with a summary of his knowledge.
I will arrive to MDE airport late at night (22:30). Therefore, even assuming instant luggage delivery, I will be in city not before 23:30.
I have a very old SIM card by Movistar for calls, which apparently never expires (it never did in the last 5+ years, and I never registered it, even with 1 year of no use between usage periods), and I also have a Claro SIM for data only, which I am sure expired already after 3 months out of Colombia.
Is there any place in the MDE airport, which is still open after 22:30, which can top up my Movistar card? And even buy a new one for data? In BOG, I know the booths are open till later, but in MDE?
If not, do I have any chance to do that in town around 24:00? I need to have a working SIM card, to get in touch with a lady (not a stunning one, around 30yo, without tattoos, no silicon, yet one of the most incredible naughty ones) the same night even if I am out of the hotel which gives me the WIFI.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would throw a few pesos on my SIM card using [URL]ding.com[/URL].
[QUOTE=Jooks;2241328]Why is every other post, or so it seems, about how much one is supposed to pay, bragging about how little one pays, blah blah?
Not to digress, but I had to change plans about going to MDE in November due to work. I'm thinking of January. Is that considered low season and less touristy?[/QUOTE]January is typically when Colombians go on vacation. No idea what that means for MDE but Cartagena will be packed.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2241620]I would throw a few pesos on my SIM card using [URL]ding.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2241601]You can top it up yourself online using several websites. The one I use is etopuponline. Com.[/QUOTE]Undoubtably a good (and obvious) advice. I admit I thought about that only minutes after posting. It is also possible to top up on the Movistar web site. I will do that the week before travelling.
Still, I need to buy a new SIM card for data, to place in my mobile wifi router (MIFI). That's less urgent, but I hope there will be some shop open at late hours in the MDE airport.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2241604]When I went on that Pablo Escobar tour, the guide said that it started from chicks trying to impress the drug dealers and get their attention.[/QUOTE]I doubt that the guide of Pablo Escobar tours is a reliable source of information about Colombian society. To say the least, he claims what he knows can impress the average participant to those tours. Mr. E, what did you do in such a tour?? You disappoint me! (joking).
[QUOTE=Chaman;2241170]Beside Bar Gustos, is there any other bar where most of the girls are mainly prepagos. I heard about Bendito seas, but not sure if there is more a normal disco and maybe with just few prepagos.
I remember seen one more on Lleras, not sure if it was something like Hacienda, but that day very few girls where there.
Also for casas that suppose to be more high end, what is recommended, I have not seen comments on Loutron or Candy house, are they worth the price? I am usually looking for young looking and natural girs without silicone and better without too many tatoos.[/QUOTE]Ok then, high end is not the correct wording. I just want to look for natural girls, few tattos are ok, but no sillicone. Last time at Gustos I meet two girls, without tatoos without sillicone, they were chariging 400 K COP pesos.
I would get the advise to look for other discos.
Thank you all.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2241706]Ok then, high end is not the correct wording. I just want to look for natural girls, few tattos are ok, but no sillicone. Last time at Gustos I meet two girls, without tatoos without sillicone, they were chariging 400 K COP pesos.
I would get the advise to look for other discos.
Thank you all.[/QUOTE]Medellin is not Cartagena. Years ago, I found a good number of FLs at Mangos, but mixed with 100 more times regular girls out to have fun. If you (we) are not as handsome as handsome Colombian young guys (unlikely), your (our) chances will be low with them.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2241566]You are implying that only under-aged girls have no tattoos or silicon enhancements. You have been in Medellin long enough to know better. I have almost a hundred female acquaintances in Medellin, all 18 and over, and probably half of those have no tattoos or enhancements. Other guys have said that many of them are very attractive.[/QUOTE]Well either the editor decided that "very young looking" needed to be changed to "good looking" or my fingers weren't paying attention to my brain.
It's the combination of "very good looking", "no silicone" and "no tattoos" that suggests girls who have not yet attained majority.
[QUOTE=BeersTerry;2241592]Are you sure it is all of Colombia or is it a product of the narco culture of primarily Medellin and partially Cali? I am talking about the enhancements and not the tattos.[/QUOTE]There seems to be plenty of enhancements in Bogota as well. It would be an interesting field of study.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241779]It's the combination of "very good looking", "no silicone" and "no tattoos" that suggests girls who have not yet attained majority.[/QUOTE]You can also tell by their clothes and accessories.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241780]There seems to be plenty of enhancements in Bogota as well. It would be an interesting field of study.[/QUOTE]I don't know about Bogota, but Cali has more enhanced women than Medellin (and that's saying a lot). Go out to a club and Cali and you'll see lots of women that look like Cartoon Characters with way oversized tits and ass.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2241779]Well either the editor decided that "very young looking" needed to be changed to "good looking" or my fingers weren't paying attention to my brain.
[/QUOTE]Come on, young looking, is not the same, not at all to mean that. There are many girls, young looking, without sillicone or tatoos, look for this.
Account on twitter madamelureyes, that is what I call high end, yeah the problem ifor those girls s the price. Few girls at gustos maybe similat and cost less. So really I am only asking for another place similar to Gustos, that's all.
I will be returning to the Eternal City of Spring for my 4th visit. I had originally planned to try somewhere else (I've been to Cartagena as well) - but Medellin keeps pulling me back!
I'm happy to link up with fellow mongers if anyone wants to meet. I'm staying at a new hotel that just opened. Then Poblado for a couple of days. I was wondering if there are any new / emerging casas / strip clubs that one should look out for (I haven't been to MDE in 2018).
Last time I tried to hit Loutron. But couldn't find it. Could someone please confirm that this is the correct address: Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500.
If anyone wants to grab a drink / dinner before a night of fun in the city. Let me know!
I agree, it is a shame that the chicas in Gusto are charging this much theses days. And Yes it is both of our fault, the inexperienced / lazy gringo and the chicas for this problem. I have only payed 400 K pesos once and that was once! She was well worth it and to this day we have stayed friends. I am afraid that it will turn like CR also where ugly chicas are asking Cien and they will expect it or they will get upset and ruin the city.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2241611]I think we need educate these guys when possible, the information is available for anyone with little effort. But if these guys keep coming and pay the 200 USD at Gusto, then more girls will flock to Gusto and it should have an effect on the rest of the market long term. This could end up in stunners being hard to get outside of Gusto prices range.
I can't see how these two market can co-exist long term (we shall see), where one is asking 200 USD and next door is asking price 200 K pesos. I know the guys paying 200 USD are still an extreme minority and novice travelers, that's why the the market hasn't changed but when the tourist volume to MDE increases I would expect changes to have an effect. Unless guys stop paying those dumb 200 USD we may have a Morocco situation here which was inflated by rich arabs. I can understand that occasional 200 USD where you say I can't find a girl like this anywhere else but that excuse is not valid in Colombia.
The question is are these guys aware of what they're doing (probably not) to their pocket and possibly the market, because stunners are not exclusive to Gustos. If I heard those guys talking in the balcony I would definitely ask them to open their eyes or fly to Paris or London and pay 200 USD and sleep at a 300 USD hotel, there you can live your western life to the fullest and no need to learn spanish, win-win.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2241139]I remember a few years back the mansion sent out pics from their party. Can we get that again or from people that were there for us poor schmucks that didn't have the pleasure of being there.[/QUOTE]This girl had an interesting costume.
Are Casas like Loutron, Energy, etc. Just walkin? Or need to call upfront, etc.
Prices / services have to be negotiated? Language seems to be serious issue- Google Tran can help but only that much.
Any choice between the 2 (Loutron, Energy), what are the going rates?
Thanks.
Sam.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2242052]Are Casas like Loutron, Energy, etc. Just walkin? Or need to call upfront, etc.
Prices / services have to be negotiated? Language seems to be serious issue- Google Tran can help but only that much.
Any choice between the 2 (Loutron, Energy), what are the going rates?
Thanks.
Sam.[/QUOTE]They are all walkins.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2242021]I will be returning to the Eternal City of Spring for my 4th visit. ![/QUOTE]FWIW, it's the City of Ethernal Spring.
Miranda Cardona FB.
Tiny girl definitely girl next door type. Not really my style but I committed a date so went through with it. She is very sweet will want to smoke some weed before hand. BBBJ is decent can't DT and she has braces but wasn't an issue. Damage was 200 k.
Went to Energy and picked a flaca named Manuela. Perfect round natural ass with petite build. Tried to negotiate BBBJ for 40 k which never fails me and she counters with 100. I laugh say no pound her doggy as hard as I can lmao. It was still fun.
Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2242111]Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.[/QUOTE]I've pulled 3 times from Gusto and never paid 200 USD. I also had the one chica who bumped into me leaving Gusto (I was at The Beer Store on the other side of the park) and she was fine with 200 k.
Were there other people within earshot of you? I'm pretty sure there's a group of chicas at Gusto who only do 200 USD and pressure each other.
EDIT: There was a comment earlier about "educating" customers at Gusto. Or at least the dudes who are spending 200 USD. Friendly advise, don't do it. Don't show up to these places and tell customers what they should be paying. It's bound to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] someone off. Either a customer or one of the chicas and that could lead to problems.
[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2242026]I agree, it is a shame that the chicas in Gusto are charging this much theses days. And Yes it is both of our fault, the inexperienced / lazy gringo and the chicas for this problem. I have only payed 400 K pesos once and that was once! She was well worth it and to this day we have stayed friends. I am afraid that it will turn like CR also where ugly chicas are asking Cien and they will expect it or they will get upset and ruin the city..[/QUOTE]"She was well worth it."
First, what you, or anyone else pays doesn't matter to me. You could be paying 500 k for a CBJ from the toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer that hops around Veracruz and I wouldn't care. BTW, if anyone has CBJ from toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer on their bucket list, catch her before someone ruins the market.
She was well worth it is what everyone thinks, no matter how much they paid. If they're paying $200 at Gusto, they are comparing it to spending $2000 in Miami or NYC. And they're probably getting a better fuck.
Gusto is one club. On any night there might be 20-30 girls hoping to hit the jackpot there. Meanwhile, there are 50-75 more girls within walking distance who will happily accept 150-200 k.
A handful of people buying Bugattis, has no affect on the price at the Ford dealership.
I have been to Gustos over 10 x I hang out with a few of the workers there. On a slow night 200 k might be possible but unless a girl is absolutely desperate on a thurs- sat night 200 k isn't possible unless it's closing hours and she is desperate. It costs her 20 k alone to get in.
Even the security guards I hang out with who introduce me to girls I can bang for 150 k from their side of the hood tell me 200 is the norm and some girls maybe 150 usd. This is the thurs. Sat crowd. All other days girls don't pay an entrance and it's not that busy so I'm sure anything is possible.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2242111]Miranda Cardona FB.
Went to Energy and picked a flaca named Manuela. Perfect round natural ass with petite build. Tried to negotiate BBBJ for 40 k which never fails me and she counters with 100. I laugh say no pound her doggy as hard as I can lmao. It was still fun.
Went to Gustos with my friends on a Saturday night for their Haloween party. There were 2 stunners. Long story short her opening price was 250 $. Told her I'm good. Leaving at 4 am I see she hasn't been pulled so I go over to her tell her 250 k. She says no again. My point is these girls are not going to come down off the price especially the model type ones. While Facebookis a great option the model types are few and far between.[/QUOTE]Just would like to ask you, have never been to massages houses on Medellin. How would you compare the girls on casas vs the girls on Gustos. I know Girls on gustos a really well dressed for discos and have make up, but just would you think the same kind of girl can be found on casas like Energy.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2242198]I have been to Gustos over 10 x I hang out with a few of the workers there. On a slow night 200 k might be possible but unless a girl is absolutely desperate on a thurs- sat night 200 k isn't possible unless it's closing hours and she is desperate. It costs her 20 k alone to get in.
Even the security guards I hang out with who introduce me to girls I can bang for 150 k from their side of the hood tell me 200 is the norm and some girls maybe 150 usd. This is the thurs. Sat crowd. All other days girls don't pay an entrance and it's not that busy so I'm sure anything is possible.[/QUOTE]How do you go from 20 k COP to 200 USD? That's madness. It costs her 20 k COP to get in so she won't go below 600 k COP for a quick fuck? And what do you mean by hang out? You mean these guys sell you drugs and hookers?
That's just crazy talk, hahaha.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2242295] I know Girls on gustos a really well dressed for discos and have make up, but just would you think the same kind of girl can be found on casas like Energy.[/QUOTE]That's a plastic representation of the "added value" concept from Economics. The [U]same[/U] bottle of wine is priced 10 EUR in a supermarket in Italy (country of legendary wines), 50 EUR when you have dinner in a fine restaurant in the same country, Italy, 250+ USD (say 200 EUR) in a fine restaurant in Manhattan. And in Manhattan you also have to add a ridiculous +20% gratuity.
The customer pays not only the content, the same in all places, but what's around that.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2242164]"She was well worth it."
First, what you, or anyone else pays doesn't matter to me. You could be paying 500 k for a CBJ from the toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer that hops around Veracruz and I wouldn't care. BTW, if anyone has CBJ from toothless, 1 legged glue sniffer on their bucket list, catch her before someone ruins the market.
She was well worth it is what everyone thinks, no matter how much they paid. If they're paying $200 at Gusto, they are comparing it to spending $2000 in Miami or NYC. And they're probably getting a better fuck.
Gusto is one club. On any night there might be 20-30 girls hoping to hit the jackpot there. Meanwhile, there are 50-75 more girls within walking distance who will happily accept 150-200 k.
A handful of people buying Bugattis, has no affect on the price at the Ford dealership.[/QUOTE]First of all there is s huge difference in the experience of a Bugatti and ford focus not mention the technicals but the girls at gusto's and the rest of the city, not so much.
Anyways I see you don't believe in price change but how do you explain other city's in the world that have seen major price changes? Rio and Marrakesh for example.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2242517]First of all there is s huge difference in the experience of a Bugatti and ford focus not mention the technicals but the girls at gusto's and the rest of the city, not so much.
Anyways I see you don't believe in price change but how do you explain other city's in the world that have seen major price changes? Rio and Marrakesh for example.[/QUOTE]First of all. I like that. First of all, from a strictly functional standpoint, the difference between a Bugatti and a Ford is negligible, based upon the driving habits and abilities of most drivers on most roads. Of course it's an unfair comparison because the girls in Gusto ate not noticeably better than the girls you can find anywhere in Medellin.
I do believe in price change. Prices are constantly changing. Prices will always change and usually the price will go up. Prices in Medellin will go up. No doubt in my mind.
However, in a city if 4. 5 million, the price point is not controlled by 20 or 30 women. Just like the price Bugatti charges won't raise the price of a Mustang GT.
The price in Gusto has gone up, because it's a point and click environment. Plenty of guys want that simplicity. The club is walking distance to their hotel or apartment. Buy a few drinks, a girl comes over. 15 minutes later he's fucking the hottest girl he's ever been with. He doesn't care about $200.
But it's a closed environment. He's not working Facebook or going after any other segment of the market. What he spends in Gusto only matters in Gusto.
I just visited Photoprepagos and there are some interesting ladies. Some of them looks real, overall it seems useful source of. Information. But I'm wondering about the prices. Some quotes 100,000 - 150,000 (I guess its pesos) but other says $150 and that is almost 500,000 pesos. So if there any regular users of the website, can you tell me is this 150 k pesos not $150, or there is no mistake and some girls have high opinion of themselves.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2242552]I just visited Photoprepagos and there are some interesting ladies. Some of them looks real, overall it seems useful source of. Information. But I'm wondering about the prices. Some quotes 100,000 - 150,000 (I guess its pesos) but other says $150 and that is almost 500,000 pesos. So if there any regular users of the website, can you tell me is this 150 k pesos not $150, or there is no mistake and some girls have high opinion of themselves.[/QUOTE]No guarantees, but I've used photoprepagos a few times with good results. I've never seen someone advertise in US dollars on that site, so I think the $150 price is 150 k pesos. But you should restate the price when you WhatsApp them. Don't even mention dollars -- just say "the price is 150 k pesos, correct? "Cuesta ciento cincuenta mil pesos, si?" (Sorry don't know how to use write accents on this keyboard).
FWIW, if a girl in Colombia quoted me US dollars, I would immediately ignore them / cross them off the list.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2242517]Anyways I see you don't believe in price change but how do you explain other city's in the world that have seen major price changes? Rio and Marrakesh for example.[/QUOTE]Never been to Marrakesh, but I used to live in Rio. If you search the posts you can see that years ago I was reporting giving chicks at Help Disco 100 reais for all night while others were reporting paying 300 reais. Help is now closed and a restaurant / bar called Mabs has taken over the main gringo freelance traffic. The chicks look way worse, but now ask 500 reais for all night and most times 300 for short time. You can see the disparity by looking at local sex pages. A guy posted one in the Rio thread the other day where way better chicks have an advertised price of 100 and 150 reais. So I would say on the local FL market prices have not risen much, but as usual, the froreigner is allowing himself to be fleeced.
As far as establishments, there is this thing in Brazil where if business is bad they will raise prices to make up for the loss of business, instead of lowering prices to try to attract more business. They would rather raise the price and have a place sit empty, than lower the price to keep the place occupied and bringing in money.
[QUOTE=Combo;2242556]No guarantees, but I've used photoprepagos a few times with good results. I've never seen someone advertise in US dollars on that site, so I think the $150 price is 150 k pesos. But you should restate the price when you WhatsApp them. Don't even mention dollars -- just say "the price is 150 k pesos, correct?[/QUOTE]If I was to throw out a number, I would throw out a lower one. In this case I would say the price is 100K right? If not, then just ask the price and let them fill in the blank. If they say something higher than 150K, then I would say, but the add says 150K.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2242570]If I was to throw out a number, I would throw out a lower one. In this case I would say the price is 100K right? If not, then just ask the price and let them fill in the blank. If they say something higher than 150K, then I would say, but the add says 150K.[/QUOTE]That depends on the OP's Spanish level. If he is like many MDE hobbyists, just confirming the price from the ad will a bit of a struggle.
I'm telling you like it is live in Medellin right now. If you want to aim for 200 k at Gustos and get it good for you. I have spoke with many girls and it is all the same. The lowest a girl went was 150 $ usd for 2 hours. I'm giving reports to educate the new comers on what to expect. If you can somehow negotiate it down to 200 k good for you.
Most of these girls are nothing special except that they get dressed up and put on their Sundays best. The only reason I go is to have a drink and look at some new talent.
My first couple trips I did pull a couple girls and learned my lesson. Now I only see FB girls. Unless I see a super model type at Gustos which is possible since so many girls are making much more $$ there they bring friends who might not be part of that life or word just gets around.
As far as massage parlors I would say if the top energy girls dressed up they can do the same thing.
Think about it this way. Like it or not many guys pay 200-300 usd for these girls and it's their $$ and they can spend it how they please. From the girls perspective they only need to pull one guy a weekend for their whole weeks worth of 200 k fucks. Which one would you take if you were them knowing sometimes they get more than the 200 $.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2242613]Think about it this way. Like it or not many guys pay 200-300 usd for these girls and it's their $$ and they can spend it how they please. From the girls perspective they only need to pull one guy a weekend for their whole weeks worth of 200 k fucks. Which one would you take if you were them knowing sometimes they get more than the 200 $.[/QUOTE]I doubt many people do. Just the bobos. The time I saw it it looked like rich kids spending daddies money.
You're right though. I'm certainly not stopping anyone from spending 200 USD. Great thing about Colombia is there are more hookers than customers.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2242629]I doubt many people do. Just the bobos. The time I saw it it looked like rich kids spending daddies money.
You're right though. I'm certainly not stopping anyone from spending 200 USD. Great thing about Colombia is there are more hookers than customers.[/QUOTE]I agree I use to be one of the bobos lmao. Now I'm banging hot tinder and FB Girls for 200 k and getting everything I want. I'm not saying I wouldn't spend 200 $ again but the situation would have to be extreme.
[QUOTE=Combo;2242556]No guarantees, but I've used photoprepagos a few times with good results. I've never seen someone advertise in US dollars on that site, so I think the $150 price is 150 k pesos. But you should restate the price when you WhatsApp them. Don't even mention dollars -- just say "the price is 150 k pesos, correct? "Cuesta ciento cincuenta mil pesos, si?" (Sorry don't know how to use write accents on this keyboard).
FWIW, if a girl in Colombia quoted me US dollars, I would immediately ignore them / cross them off the list.[/QUOTE]Everything around here is marked as $ and Nothing is marked K or KCOP, but they all mean COP. Check price for anything- restaurant menu to anything else it is all $.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2242559]Never been to Marrakesh, but I used to live in Rio. If you search the posts you can see that years ago I was reporting giving chicks at Help Disco 100 reais for all night while others were reporting paying 300 reais. Help is now closed and a restaurant / bar called Mabs has taken over the main gringo freelance traffic. The chicks look way worse, but now ask 500 reais for all night and most times 300 for short time. You can see the disparity by looking at local sex pages. A guy posted one in the Rio thread the other day where way better chicks have an advertised price of 100 and 150 reais. So I would say on the local FL market prices have not risen much, but as usual, the froreigner is allowing himself to be fleeced.
As far as establishments, there is this thing in Brazil where if business is bad they will raise prices to make up for the loss of business, instead of lowering prices to try to attract more business. They would rather raise the price and have a place sit empty, than lower the price to keep the place occupied and bringing in money.[/QUOTE]The problem is "Foreigners don't know" - they flock to the the typical touristy areas. They simply get the price and quality they get. Out here prices go down from El Pob to Laureles to Centro- quality (of the girls) may not go down in the same proportion. I 'tried' checking out the strip joints at Centro- simply not my kind of an area- too 'seedy' for me.
Yes one can and should explore. There is plenty of 'talent' around- need legs to go around.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2242692]Everything around here is marked as $ and Nothing is marked K or KCOP, but they all mean COP. Check price for anything- restaurant menu to anything else it is all $.[/QUOTE]I cannot refrain from reposting here a story which I reported in this same thread a few times already.
Years ago, and I really cannot forget that, I met an idiot right at the arrival hall of the Medellin airport, at one of the ATMs right out of the door. He had just landed, as me. He was cursing loudly in front of the ATM, while I was waiting behind him. He then left the ATM telling me "NAW! ALSO THIS ONE GIVES DOLLARS! I WANT PESOS! Then he went away too quickly to let me reply anything.
Once in front of the ATM and I started the procedure, I realized what he meant: the ATM screen was proposing $150,000, $200,000, $300,000, etc.
That idiot, because only an idiot could think that, must have thought that the ATM was distributing hundreds thousand USDs??
(yes, contrary to your web site, the ATM screens does not omit the leading zeroes after the comma).
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2242844]Once in front of the ATM and I started the procedure, I realized what he meant: the ATM screen was proposing $150,000, $200,000, $300,000, etc.
That idiot, because only an idiot could think that, must have thought that the ATM was distributing hundreds thousand USDs??.[/QUOTE]Yeah it is pretty silly for Colombia, but there are other places where it is not as silly. For instance, in Peru the ATM will give you USD or Soles.
Back in 2003 when I was in school in Argentina a classmate was having a leather skirt made. The price was $300. At the time the peso was 3 to 1 for the USD. When it came time to pay she handed over 300 pesos. Unfortunately for her, in this instance the $300 actually meant 300 USD!
I try to refrain from criticisms and normally prefer to only give my personal perspective but for someone professing to be some kind of expert, living here, giving reports to new comers, please stop! You jump back and forth from COP to Dollars while confusing matters further, as your examples seem to cite a limited range of touristy options.
There are hundreds of venues where one can successfuly meet girls in Medellin at any given time. While I do not go for the "model types" as I feel that distinction is primarly awarded to those who have higher level of skill in make-up, fashion, FB selfies and not actual beauty. Also, "model types" seem to me to overcompensate and put on a front of self confidence which in my opinion drives price up and quality of service down.
Its a tough cookie to swallow being sex deprived while suddenly landing in Medellin only to spend US prices for Ritz crackers. I've been there. My advice, breathe! Jerk off first. Do Something to take off the edge. They can smell you a mile away. While Gustos may be a well stocked candy store, Energy may be an interesting adventure out of the normal stomping grounds and Ritz crackers may still be very yummy, just this past week I had a sexy little sensual BJ all-star hottie quote me 65 cop plus taxi and another smoking hot flaca body big titted metro riding cutie from Bello drop her original flat rate offer of 100 cop to 80 cop.
Sure there are tons of girls who will not go below 200 cop and tons of girls who quote in Dollars. But as a very experienced horn dog explained to me on my first visit to Medellin, the biggest factor on price is WHERE YOU MEET THEM. Second factor being the timing of how hungry for cash they are. Contrary to popular belief, vagina does not really wear out as fast as you might imagine. More nicely put, depending where you meet a chica, she has more to lose by letting you walk away then cooperating with you. And if she lets you walk, I promise you it was in your best interest as chances are she is a starfish or you acted like a jerk and nothing you do will repair the damage. LOL. By going to Gustos, you are on their turf. Get away from that scene and you level the odds more in your favor. As many girls quoting 200 cop, I promise there are at least 5 times that number who will accept 100 cop, stay with you longer, give you better attention and be more appreciative.
IN Medellin, in general the girls are awesome! Anywhere you meet them they are friendly. If you make a friendly, but not lude or rude, comment to a pretty girl in the street, odds are she will smile. Go from there. Ask if she will help you practice your Spanish. Offer to share a tinto or helado or almuerzo. The culture is far from perfect but it is a happy one. The people generally and genuinely want you to enjoy the moment and enjoy themselves too.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2242613]I'm telling you like it is live in Medellin right now. If you want to aim for 200 k at Gustos and get it good for you. I have spoke with many girls and it is all the same. The lowest a girl went was 150 $ usd for 2 hours. I'm giving reports to educate the new comers on what to expect. If you can somehow negotiate it down to 200 k good for you.
Most of these girls are nothing special except that they get dressed up and put on their Sundays best. The only reason I go is to have a drink and look at some new talent.
My first couple trips I did pull a couple girls and learned my lesson. Now I only see FB girls. Unless I see a super model type at Gustos which is possible since so many girls are making much more $$ there they bring friends who might not be part of that life or word just gets around.
As far as massage parlors I would say if the top energy girls dressed up they can do the same thing.
Think about it this way. Like it or not many guys pay 200-300 usd for these girls and it's their $$ and they can spend it how they please. From the girls perspective they only need to pull one guy a weekend for their whole weeks worth of 200 k fucks. Which one would you take if you were them knowing sometimes they get more than the 200 $.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2242890]There are hundreds of venues where one can successfuly meet girls in Medellin at any given time. While I do not go for the "model types" as I feel that distinction is primarly awarded to those who have higher level of skill in make-up, fashion, FB selfies and not actual beauty. Also, "model types" seem to me to overcompensate and put on a front of self confidence which in my opinion drives price up and quality of service down.
Its a tough cookie to swallow being sex deprived while suddenly landing in Medellin only to spend US prices for Ritz crackers. [/QUOTE]Man you said some shit right there that is the absolute truth. Too many guys want to pick women off a website or some overpriced trap that is full of chicks with glamor tricks. To me there is no such thing as a model type. I have seen plenty of stars and models in everyday situations and they look just like anybody else. For some reason guys fall for the makeup, clothing, posing bullshit. When I meet a chick and she comes to my room all that makeup shit has to come off. If I already know a chick and she comes over, then she knows not to wear makeup. I said that in the Philippines thread and another guy said he feels disrespected if a chick shows up without makeup. I guess he wants the fantasy, while I want the reality.
And the porn star shit I don't get either. What do people find so special about a chick that has fucked on camera? A buddy of mine married a chick that was a porn star in the late 80's and early 90's. In person and without the movie magic, she really is not attractive at all. I helped them move one time and had to take this chest out to the truck. It was heavy as hell. I asked her what was in it She said albums. I said record albums or photo albums? Before I got to the truck with it the bottom fell out. It was all her porno stuff and a bunch of fan mail from guys who obviously had not seen her how she was looking that very day.
A famous man once said that pussy is pussy from Bel Air to the projects. If you want to impress me then fuck a nice woman that nobody knows, not someone who advertises and sells sex for a living and every T, the, & H has been through. Maybe I am jaded because I have been going to strip clubs since I was a teenager and started DJing in one when I was 17. Most of these chicks are nothing special to me. They are just chicks. That is why I would look at one like they were crazy if they said something like $200.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2242889]Yeah it is pretty silly for Colombia, but there are other places where it is not as silly. For instance, in Peru the ATM will give you USD or Soles.[/QUOTE]What is silly is not suspecting that an ATM MAY give either USD or local currency, but understanding that an ATM may give $150,000 USD!! I mean: one hundred fifty thousand DOLLARS.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2242890]I try to refrain from criticisms and normally prefer to only give my personal perspective but for someone professing to be some kind of expert, living here, giving reports to new comers, please stop! You jump back and forth from COP to Dollars while confusing matters further, as your examples seem to cite a limited range of touristy options.
There are hundreds of venues where one can successfuly meet girls in Medellin at any given time. While I do not go for the "model types" as I feel that distinction is primarly awarded to those who have higher level of skill in make-up, fashion, FB selfies and not actual beauty. Also, "model types" seem to me to overcompensate and put on a front of self confidence which in my opinion drives price up and quality of service down..[/QUOTE]I give you a standing ovation for that one. There's a lot there that people simply don't understand.
On models:
Last year I was at a Halloween party in Poblado. One guy I'd met a few times showed up with a genuine model, not just a model type. She stood alone, away from everyone while he made the rounds and said his hellos. Before the party got going she was whining to go somewhere else. There were probably 60 to 80 other girls there. Many were just as attractive, and all of them were friendly, smiling and enjoying the party. The model might have been great in bed, but based on her attitude, the price would have to be low.
The solution to Gusto is simple. Don't go to Gusto.
You can get just as hot of girls as Scandello / Cafe foto for the same price in Medellin. Its just not the same set up. Do your homework. I've put in over 100 hours and have slept with models, that these Gusto girls dream of being.
If you guys want to think people are crazy. Its the idiots who go to Jaco. That's like the Gusto be team at the Cocal.
Honest to god the past couple of posts are borderline hilarious. Gusto is dumb, and the girls there attractive. They are not models. Saying a girl like Joselyn Escobar is just presentation and makeup, compared to your barrio rat is moronic.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2242890]I try to refrain from criticisms and normally prefer to only give my personal perspective but for someone professing to be some kind of expert, living here, giving reports to new comers, please stop! You jump back and forth from COP to Dollars while confusing matters further, as your examples seem to cite a limited range of touristy options.
There are hundreds of venues where one can successfuly meet girls in Medellin at any given time. While I do not go for the "model types" as I feel that distinction is primarly awarded to those who have higher level of skill in make-up, fashion, FB selfies and not actual beauty. Also, "model types" seem to me to overcompensate and put on a front of self confidence which in my opinion drives price up and quality of service down.
Its a tough cookie to swallow being sex deprived while suddenly landing in Medellin only to spend US prices for Ritz crackers. I've been there. My advice, breathe! Jerk off first. Do Something to take off the edge. They can smell you a mile away. While Gustos may be a well stocked candy store, Energy may be an interesting adventure out of the normal stomping grounds and Ritz crackers may still be very yummy, just this past week I had a sexy little sensual BJ all-star hottie quote me 65 cop plus taxi and another smoking hot flaca body big titted metro riding cutie from Bello drop her original flat rate offer of 100 cop to 80 cop.
Sure there are tons of girls who will not go below 200 cop and tons of girls who quote in Dollars. But as a very experienced horn dog explained to me on my first visit to Medellin, the biggest factor on price is WHERE YOU MEET THEM. Second factor being the timing of how hungry for cash they are. Contrary to popular belief, vagina does not really wear out as fast as you might imagine. More nicely put, depending where you meet a chica, she has more to lose by letting you walk away then cooperating with you. And if she lets you walk, I promise you it was in your best interest as chances are she is a starfish or you acted like a jerk and nothing you do will repair the damage. LOL. By going to Gustos, you are on their turf. Get away from that scene and you level the odds more in your favor. As many girls quoting 200 cop, I promise there are at least 5 times that number who will accept 100 cop, stay with you longer, give you better attention and be more appreciative.
IN Medellin, in general the girls are awesome! Anywhere you meet them they are friendly. If you make a friendly, but not lude or rude, comment to a pretty girl in the street, odds are she will smile. Go from there. Ask if she will help you practice your Spanish. Offer to share a tinto or helado or almuerzo. The culture is far from perfect but it is a happy one. The people generally and genuinely want you to enjoy the moment and enjoy themselves too.[/QUOTE]"By going to Gustos, you are on their turf. Get away from that scene and you level the odds more in your favor. As many girls quoting 200 cop, I promise there are at least 5 times that number who will accept 100 cop, stay with you longer, give you better attention and be more appreciative. ".
True. But where / how do you find them, anyone (or place) that facilitates the transaction takes their cut, and to run the business effectively. They set the prices. That is how a business is run. If alternatives become practically viable people will choose those, and prices will reset suitably. Understanding of local culture and language and time / effort etc are obvious constraints doing your own.
Day one.
First day.
I got my tickets about a few weeks back. I also reserved room at Mansion. Living near western coast of US, I had a long flight time and multiple flight changes.
Uneventful flight. Took a cab from the airport, one of the airport cabs. Costs 70,000 COP. Close to an hour of travel.
Initially, when I planned this trip. I was not anticipating having time to do FB homework. I did find a couple of hours for a few days. After several stops and starts, I managed to grab about 20 to 25 numbers of freakbook chicas. FB shuts you down if you have a new profile and send someone in Medellin a friend request. It also marks you as a spam for no reason. Its a learning curve trying to work FB.
Most FB Chicks quote 200 and can be bought down to 150. After check in, I grabbed a mansion girl called Michelle Alazate Henao. Natural 19 year old. She was how I liked it. Asked 200 offered 150. Agreed and ran to the room. I wanted to nut fast!
Not a lot of enthusiasm but she had a nice body and is cooperative. Easy and good session. Went to ATM nearby. Got my card rejected. I had initially exchanged a couple of hundreds at the airport. Tried at another ATM and it worked. Everyone here and local gringos I met agree. ATM is best for good exchange rate.
Halloween fever everywhere. Even the Mansion was dead. Not a single girl at the bar yesterday. I met some of the other guests. Some of them have a few trips under their belts and are very helpful. Oddly enough, I noticed a bunch of my countrymen (Indian / Indian origin) at the mansion. (about 4).
I went to park Leeras like around 9 pm. You can actually walk there from mansion. Its not too far. 10 to 15 minute walk. Grabbed food and saw too many different costumes. Everyone is having a good time. Strolled around for a couple of hours, did not see any working girls.
Coming back to M, alled valen munoz (FB), keeps pestering on whatsapp, she came by cab. Looks good on the profile but got some years in to her in person. Service was excellent. Comparing quality of others in Medellin (looks), would not recommend. Parted with 150 k pesos.
Called it a night.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243329]True. But where / how do you find them, anyone (or place) that facilitates the transaction takes their cut, and to run the business effectively. They set the prices. That is how a business is run. If alternatives become practically viable people will choose those, and prices will reset suitably. Understanding of local culture and language and time / effort etc are obvious constraints doing your own.[/QUOTE]Anywhere other than Club Gusto. There is no other "business" or place in Colombia with chicas asking for 200 USD in any serious way.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2243374]Anywhere other than Club Gusto. There is no other "business" or place in Colombia with chicas asking for 200 USD in any serious way.[/QUOTE]Just scammers targeting newbie gringos in Cartagena. "Hey I said 200 DOLLARS not pesos!
Any issues with photoprepagos website girls. Safe / fake photos.
Just noticed there are several dozen girls with phone 3115504849 in Medellíand on photoprepagos.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2243374]Anywhere other than Club Gusto. There is no other "business" or place in Colombia with chicas asking for 200 USD in any serious way.[/QUOTE]In general for 200 $ you would get is worlds best. Just go to Europe, why will one come here. But life goes on.
So I get my ass back on LatinAmericanCupid once again. I have been a member since 2005, but will usually get the 3 month plan for $60 once a year or once every two years. This time I splurge for the 1 year plan for $120.
Funny shit going on like chicks I fucked years ago or even chicks that I met on the site and have been fucking for years are still on there. I hit one chick in Rio Brazil up and she says you don't remember me? I used to come stay with you when you would come to Rio. I don't remember this chick at all. She said how are you going to fuck someone several times and don't remember shit about them? I guess I go through so many women that a lot of times I do not remember them.
Now to the purpose of my post. I am on there and meet a chick from Bogota today. Says she has been going out with a guy for 1 month but things aren't working out. She sends me pictures and is just my type. Finally I ask what she does in Bogota and she says she is an escort. I say you are a puta? (I like to use real language and break them down. You won't catch me using that soft pc bs. Bih if you fucking for money then you are a ho. Plain and simple.) She says yes, a prepago. Says she just started though. So I ask her how much I have to pay. She said nothing. We are getting to know each other.
Then I start asking other questions about it. She charges 120K an hour, does not do anal, and only CBJ. To pay her bills she needs to earn 1.5M per month. So that is 11 clients. (I should have told her if she catches one of y'all at Gusto's then she will be half way there!) She meets guys by advertising on the websites that have already been mentioned here. Not like me to turn down free pussy. All I ask is that you guys leave it wet for me. Here is a copy of the convo.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243414]Any issues with photoprepagos website girls. Safe / fake photos.
Just noticed there are several dozen girls with phone 3115504849 in Medelland on photoprepagos.[/QUOTE]All these 3115504849 belong to La Calestina website.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2243426]
Now to the purpose of my post. I am on there and meet a chick from Bogota today. Says she has been going out with a guy for 1 month but things aren't working out. She sends me pictures and is just my type. Finally I ask what she does in Bogota and she says she is an escort. I say you are a puta? (I like to use real language and break them down. You won't catch me using that soft pc bs. Bih if you fucking for money then you are a ho. Plain and simple.) She says yes, a prepago. Says she just started though. So I ask her how much I have to pay. She said nothing. We are getting to know each other.
Then I start asking other questions about it. She charges 120K an hour, does not do anal, and only CBJ. To pay her bills she needs to earn 1.5M per month. So that is 11 clients. (I should have told her if she catches one of y'all at Gusto's then she will be half way there!) She meets guys by advertising on the websites that have already been mentioned here. Not like me to turn down free pussy. All I ask is that you guys leave it wet for me. Here is a copy of the convo.[/QUOTE]You silver tongue Casanova, LOL.
A little heart and empathy go a long way, but obviously that's not you.
I guess it makes you feel better to call a girl a puta, because you "like to use real language and break them down".
Class act.
With all the conversation in here that is not centered around intel and valuable information. I thought I'd once again give back to this board out of gratitude for those who take the time to provide accurate and updated information.
I arrived to Medellin yesterday. And stayed at Atton El Tesoro for one night. I wanted to check out this hotel as it's new and highly rated. But I would not stay again unless I was here on business. The hotel is located high up on the Poblado hills and is very difficult to get to. I recommend staying at an airbnb outside of the tourist traps.
Now off to the intel from past two days.
New Life:
Arrived at 3 pm on a Wednesday. About 12 chicas were on site. No 9's or 10's. But a couple 7's and 8's. Settled on a chocolate chica who gave great service. 50,000 COP for 30 minutes.
Energy:
Arrived at around 2 pm on a Thursday. About 15 chicas on site. But none to my liking so I passed (this was the first time I did not partake in the lineup at Energy. Which is usually a reliable stop for me).
Loutron:
Arrived at 4 pm on a Thursday (after Energy trip) - about 12 chicas on site. The place itself is not easy to find. It's located across the street from a paintball business through wooden gates (which are open) - consult the Medellin list for more details. It's a pretty serious hike up to the top where the casa is situated. But I felt like it was good exercise. But be aware for the more senior members that they should have the cab drive all the way up the hill. The casa itself is very nice. I felt like a boss in there LOL. There was only one other client in there. Lineup was decent. But not markedly better than new life or energy. But I did see one 9 in there who was very very sexy and I decided to partake. Damage was 280,000 COP. I will not return because of the inflated price. But wanted to give it a try and am glad I did for the experience. Rooms were *very* nice and clean.
Fase II:
Arrived at 11:45 pm on a Wednesday evening. Place was fairly quiet. But enough chicas to validate the trip. I saw about two 9's and a lot of 6's7's /8/ s. No 10's. I recalled the same chicas from previous trip (over a year ago). Stayed for an hour and went to La Isla.
La Isla:
Arrived at 1 am On a Wednesday evening. Place had a couple of 10's and many 8's /9's. The quality was good. I didn't realize they closed at 2 am and thus I did not get a chance to partake. But will return on another night. La Isla is pricey. But it's always a good vibe in there to me.
I will visit some of the more local / centro strip clubs next. But I haven't had much luck there. I will also go to Gusto's and give a report out of curiosity.
Curious as to what everyone's favorite Centro strip club is.
Will report back in a couple of days w / more intel.
Guys why are you so down on Gustos?
What's with all the hate?
I get it and I learned and now I'm exclusive to FB and Tinder.
But I got news for you guys. . Gustos ain't going no where and I'll tell you why. As a foreigner it's the most comfortable place to go for the night club scene. I don't know about the Mansion but besides strip clubs and people willing to put the time in on FB. Most foreigners don't feel comfortable at places like Luna or other local places. It's that simple. I personally wouldn't go back to those places in Centro.
I still like to go to Gustos and I never pull from there anymore but got friends who work there and it's chill just to have a drink and sit back.
Girls will always go there on weekends and get their foreign $$. I saw a booth filled with Arabs ordering the most rose at 700 $ a pop. I'm sure their quote from a girl was starting at 400 usd and up lmao. They might get it but they might not. But my point is those guys won't be putting the time or have the time to go on fb or go to a local club where they'll feel completely out of place.
So like it not Gustos is going to be there. Even with all the posts on this thread from vets who hate it cause the girls overcharge and ruin your market. There's nothing that can be done.
Also model types definitely are not a regular at Gustos. But if you keep going in once in a blue you'll find a first timer coming in because they heard how much can be made from foreigners.
Has anyone heard of La Bomba in el centro? I hear its a pretty popular place with the locals.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2243559]Guys why are you so down on Gustos?[/QUOTE]It's a nice club actually but some of the chicas try to rip off tourists.
And I'm done discussing it.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2243512]With all the conversation in here that is not centered around intel and valuable information. I thought I'd once again give back to this board out of gratitude for those who take the time to provide accurate and updated information.
New Life:
Arrived at 3 pm on a Wednesday. About 12 chicas were on site. No 9's or 10's. But a couple 7's and 8's. Settled on a chocolate chica who gave great service. 50,000 COP for 30 minutes.
Energy:
Arrived at around 2 pm on a Thursday. About 15 chicas on site. But none to my liking so I passed (this was the first time I did not partake in the lineup at Energy. Which is usually a reliable stop for me).
Loutron:
Arrived at 4 pm on a Thursday (after Energy trip) - about 12 chicas on site. The place itself is not easy to find. It's located across the street from a paintball business through wooden gates (which are open) - consult the Medellin list for more details. It's a pretty serious hike up to the top where the casa is situated. But I felt like it was good exercise. But be aware for the more senior members that they should have the cab drive all the way up the hill. The casa itself is very nice. I felt like a boss in there LOL. There was only one other client in there. Lineup was decent. But not markedly better than new life or energy. But I did see one 9 in there who was very very sexy and I decided to partake. Damage was 280,000 COP. I will not return because of the inflated price. But wanted to give it a try and am glad I did for the experience. Rooms were *very* nice and clean.
Will report back in a couple of days w / more intel.[/QUOTE]Loutron 280 K- is that the going price? (Why are people only complaining about Gusto).
What are prices at Energy?
Reached last Saturday afternoon.
1st evening at Parqe llera. Lots of Halloween crowd, lost of SWs. Nothing good.
Fase Dos:
Sunday evening 10 pm, thin crowd.
This is strip club, girls dance, come around for collection, girls mingle for solicitation. Atmosphere is good overall, girls 6 -8.
Picked up a chic-Frida (dark skin, slim, bolt Ons, 7) - poor experience service, 190 K. (Beers are 20 K).
Luna Notera:
Wednesday afternoon 4 PM.
This is fuck place (no dancing), girls come and introduce themselves- just name, mostly 5 -8. Beers 15 K.
Picked a chic. Vanessa, slim, natural (As), 7.5- decent+ service, 150 K.
Photoprepagos.
Tried a chic after all the effort, bad experience. Details later.
Will post detailed adventures later.
Thanks.
Sam.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243437]All these 3115504849 belong to La Calestina website.[/QUOTE]These guys no reply to WhatsApp.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2243512]With all the conversation in here that is not centered around intel and valuable information. I thought I'd once again give back to this board out of gratitude for those who take the time to provide accurate and updated information.
New Life:
Arrived at 3 pm on a Wednesday. About 12 chicas were on site. No 9's or 10's. But a couple 7's and 8's. Settled on a chocolate chica who gave great service. 50,000 COP for 30 minutes.
[/QUOTE]Which one is New Life. Google does not find it.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243738]Loutron 280 K- is that the going price? (Why are people only complaining about Gusto).
What are prices at Energy?[/QUOTE]There is a big difference between 280 K pesos and $200. USD, how many times does it have to be explained to people, when you see #K it means # thousand pesos, Gusto girls are quoting guys in US DOLLARS,200 US dollars is 600 K pesos mas o menos. Nowhere else in Medellin quotes anything in dollars.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2243816]There is a big difference between 280 K pesos and $200. USD, how many times does it have to be explained to people, when you see #K it means # thousand pesos, Gusto girls are quoting guys in US DOLLARS,200 US dollars is 600 K pesos mas o menos. Nowhere else in Medellin quotes anything in dollars.[/QUOTE]Understand pesos and $s, but 280 k in setself a high price.
Is that the going rate? Is energy similar?
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2243559]
So like it not Gustos is going to be there. Even with all the posts on this thread from vets who hate it cause the girls overcharge and ruin your market. There's nothing that can be done.
Also model types definitely are not a regular at Gustos. But if you keep going in once in a blue you'll find a first timer coming in because they heard how much can be made from foreigners.[/QUOTE]Thought I'd check out Gustos last night for curiousity sake.
Cool guys out front, security, etc, 15 kp entrance.
Up the elevator and there I am.
I was there from like 11 pm to 130 am.
Good vibe and music.
Girls dancing about. Fun.
I talked to several girls, a couple hotties said they were charging $200 US dollars, I just smiled and asked "hombres paga eso" ?
They smiled and said, "algunos" . LOL.
All were willing to negotiate though.
The cutest little flaquita I met there though was cool, when I asked her about her charge, she actually said "lo que me quieres dar" , "pareces un hombre chevere y se que me trataras bien".
Basically, that whatever I want to pay her, that I seem cool and that she knows that I'll treat her well".
Smart girl, LOL.
I do take care of cool girls like that, not $200 US, but good.
She told me a dude took her out for 2 days once and gave her 400 kp total, for 2 full days together.
She was hoping for more, but accepted it.
I was beat by the time we talked last night, so I got her coming over later today.
Like you said, I didn't see many beauties, lots of regular but ok girls.
Some cuties, a few beauties.
My take on the place is that's it's a cool vibe, fun to hang for a bit.
Easy.
The more spanish skills, convo skill, and just the ability to let a girl know that you know the Medellin scene, the better you can negotiate without outwardly negotiate, LOL.
Had fun!
Made a few contacts.
Like a couple guys have said, Gustos won't ruin the Medellin PFP price, girls there, some, are just looking for the big fish.
They'll most likely accept lower on a call up later.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243784]Which one is New Life. Google does not find it.[/QUOTE]Dude, read the Medellin list.
You may be a cool guy, but you ask some odd stuff, LOL.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2243835]Dude, read the Medellin list.
You may be a cool guy, but you ask some odd stuff, LOL.[/QUOTE]Ok I found it in the "pro" list, was looking at the non-pro.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243818]Understand pesos and $s, but 280 k in setself a high price.
Is that the going rate? Is energy similar?[/QUOTE]It is a pretty high price. But Loutron doesn't get discussed that much because not that many guys go there compared to Fase 2, Luna Lunera, Centro places, etc.
[QUOTE=Combo;2243939]It is a pretty high price. But Loutron doesn't get discussed that much because not that many guys go there compared to Fase 2, Luna Lunera, Centro places, etc.[/QUOTE]The one time I went there, the girls were great looking.
I went to Gusto's last night (Thursday) and am dumbfounded as to why this is a place for mongers to visit. I didn't see any compelling talent in there. Certainly none that I'd even pay $100 USD let alone $200 USD. This must be for those who just want to stay in Parque lleras. I will never understand the appeal of paying 5 x market price for below-average talent.
The highest end casa in MDE. Years ago, it was a few blocks above the Mansion in Poblado. But now it's way out on Las Palmas. So you pay a premium price for the chicas, plus the expense of the taxi. The girls are pretty top shelf and the give good service, although it's still casa-style service (not GFE). If you want to go there to say you went and that you fucked a hot chick, great. But for me, I get he kind of service I like for much less from the girl next store type that I like. And I'm happy. I went once years ago. So I can say I went.
P.S. - I miss the casa that used to be the "training place" for Loutrons. Abydos. There were some real hotties there that gave good service at a more reasonable price. I was sad when it closed. It was right near Miel why Canelas. A dirty working girl house, one of the few where you could find anal regularly if you wanted it. Anyone who remembers Miel why Canelas and Abydos has probably been going to MDE for a while.
[QUOTE=Crypton;2243955]The one time I went there, the girls were great looking.[/QUOTE]
I was not a big fan of Miel / Canelas but I did like having Abydos right across the street from Luna Lunera. I actually get a little sad when I pass by the old location and see it empty. Every so often a for rent sign appears. I think Abydos was open as recently as three years ago wasn't it?
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2243992]The highest end casa in MDE. Years ago, it was a few blocks above the Mansion in Poblado. But now it's way out on Las Palmas. So you pay a premium price for the chicas, plus the expense of the taxi. The girls are pretty top shelf and the give good service, although it's still casa-style service (not GFE). If you want to go there to say you went and that you fucked a hot chick, great. But for me, I get he kind of service I like for much less from the girl next store type that I like. And I'm happy. I went once years ago. So I can say I went.
P.S. - I miss the casa that used to be the "training place" for Loutrons. Abydos. There were some real hotties there that gave good service at a more reasonable price. I was sad when it closed. It was right near Miel why Canelas. A dirty working girl house, one of the few where you could find anal regularly if you wanted it. Anyone who remembers Miel why Canelas and Abydos has probably been going to MDE for a while.[/QUOTE]
From my experience The girls at Loutrons are comparable to the best girls at the other casas. However, the main reason I don't visit it more often is because it is too out of the way. The ambiance of the place though makes me feel like some important Colombian jefe. Abydos was one of my favorite casas but I observed it starting to decline a couple years ago. The last time I visited I did not choose a girl and the mamasan charged me 10,000 K for the viewing of 3 mediocre chicas.
I'm not trying to pick on you, but man you ask a ton of questions. I'll try to answer the latest batch here.
The price at Energy is 150 k for 1 hour full service. Search Fantasias Energy Medellin to find their website.
Loutron is the most expensive casa in Medellin. The price is somewhere in the 300 k range.
New Life is in El Centro at Calle 56 #43-39. It's easy to find, just look for the blue door. Aiffe is another casa a block away. It's at Calle 57 #43-27. It's also easy to find. Just look for the red door.
Hotel M Medellin is the Mansion, or Hotel Medellin Plaza.
There's so much talk about Gusto because some guys consider it the gateway to heaven and others think it's the pit of hell. In reality, it's just another disco, where hookers hang out and hope to find guys willing to overpay.
Last year, I brought my own vape cartridge. The girls had never seen anything like it before. Has Colombia caught up and can I purchase the refill down there?
If you are looking for the best chica you cna find, I think the banter is more directed towards the laziness of picking up a girl from there and not so much about the atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2243559]Guys why are you so down on Gustos?
What's with all the hate?
I get it and I learned and now I'm exclusive to FB and Tinder.
But I got news for you guys. . Gustos ain't going no where and I'll tell you why. As a foreigner it's the most comfortable place to go for the night club scene. I don't know about the Mansion but besides strip clubs and people willing to put the time in on FB. Most foreigners don't feel comfortable at places like Luna or other local places. It's that simple. I personally wouldn't go back to those places in Centro.
I still like to go to Gustos and I never pull from there anymore but got friends who work there and it's chill just to have a drink and sit back.
Girls will always go there on weekends and get their foreign $$. I saw a booth filled with Arabs ordering the most rose at 700 $ a pop. I'm sure their quote from a girl was starting at 400 usd and up lmao. They might get it but they might not. But my point is those guys won't be putting the time or have the time to go on fb or go to a local club where they'll feel completely out of place.
So like it not Gustos is going to be there. Even with all the posts on this thread from vets who hate it cause the girls overcharge and ruin your market. There's nothing that can be done.
Also model types definitely are not a regular at Gustos. But if you keep going in once in a blue you'll find a first timer coming in because they heard how much can be made from foreigners.[/QUOTE]
My favorite is Conejitas. Its cozier. LOL The rooms are pretty decent. Some better than others. Every now and then I find a wow chica there. 5 mil beers.
Maracaibo and Ejucutiva usually have a better selection tho.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2243512]
Curious as to what everyone's favorite Centro strip club is.
Will report back in a couple of days w / more intel.[/QUOTE]
I don't know why really but I always laugh when they ring the loud rodeo bell every time a customer walks in the front door of the strip clubs. It's like an alarm to the waiters. Fresh meat, sell him a drink quick! LOL!
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2244709]My favorite is Conejitas. Its cozier. LOL The rooms are pretty decent. Some better than others. Every now and then I find a wow chica there. 5 mil beers.
Maracaibo and Ejucutiva usually have a better selection tho.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2244709]My favorite is Conejitas. Its cozier. LOL The rooms are pretty decent. Some better than others. Every now and then I find a wow chica there. 5 mil beers.
Maracaibo and Ejucutiva usually have a better selection tho.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I like Conejitas the best also, Barra Ejectiva usually has more girls with a hotter avg but the A Team at Conejitas will be hotter and the rooms at BE suck, dark and hot.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2243971]I went to Gusto's last night (Thursday) and am dumbfounded as to why this is a place for mongers to visit. I didn't see any compelling talent in there. Certainly none that I'd even pay $100 USD let alone $200 USD. This must be for those who just want to stay in Parque lleras. I will never understand the appeal of paying 5 x market price for below-average talent.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly! I have said it before that I have been in Gusto's about 4 or 5 times in the past 2 or 3 years, each time spending 3 to 5 hours, so not just a quick walk through, and I went on weekend nights, I have never seen a girl above a 7, period! And none interested me, none! I too am baffled why this club even gets mentioned at all.
IMHO!
The Tall Man.
Hi all,
Looks like lots of members here were highly successful in connecting with women on Facebook, for action. I tried to search FB using all kinds of search terms, without much success.
Any pointers you guys can share how to look for women on FB in Medellin for fun.
Thanks much.
Hello to everyone here,
I have noob question.
Do you guys pay to prepago before or after?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=StefanKalafior;2245329]Hello to everyone here,
I have noob question.
Do you guys pay to prepago before or after?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]By definition, prepago means prepay. Some want their cash up front, others wait till after. If you plan on paying after, you better tell her upfront to avoind any drama!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=StefanKalafior;2245329]Hello to everyone here,
I have noob question.
Do you guys pay to prepago before or after?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I've never paid upfront in Colombia. I'm not against it but it's never come up.
I went to Club la Isla on Saturday. Many girls some 9 & 8, others like 7.
Entrance fee like 10 k.
The beer is 25 k COP and ladies drink 28. To go up with a girl to the room inside the club is 300 k, which maybe not too bad as some girls looks very good, but is just 40 minutes. Seems like you will be in a rush. Anyone have taken the service here?
Also outside the club is a cheap but decent BBQ place.
Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2245461]By definition, prepago means prepay. Some want their cash up front, others wait till after. If you plan on paying after, you better tell her upfront to avoind any drama!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chaman;2245575]
The beer is 25 k COP and ladies drink 28. To go up with a girl to the room inside the club is 300 k, which maybe not too bad as some girls looks very good, but is just 40 minutes. Seems like you will be in a rush. Anyone have taken the service here?
[/QUOTE]I believe I paid 280 k COP last year but it was an hour. The girl I took was borderline stunning and she worked very hard the entire hour. It was good and my recollection is I left somewhat surprised and happy that she didn't try to cheat at least a little.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2245575]I went to Club la Isla on Saturday. Many girls some 9 & 8, others like 7.
Entrance fee like 10 k.
The beer is 25 k COP and ladies drink 28. To go up with a girl to the room inside the club is 300 k, which maybe not too bad as some girls looks very good, but is just 40 minutes. Seems like you will be in a rush. Anyone have taken the service here?
Also outside the club is a cheap but decent BBQ place.[/QUOTE]My experience at La Isla is over the past 2 years I have spent about 5 to 7 nights in the club, twice I found a chica that I just had to bang, both ended up just so-so, no bad but not great just so-so, two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=StefanKalafior;2245329]Hello to everyone here,
I have noob question.
Do you guys pay to prepago before or after?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]You have to pay up front in casas and strip clubs. A potential tip should steer your session in a good direction.
Only suckers pay FLs up front. It's a deal breaker for me.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2244709]My favorite is Conejitas. Its cozier. LOL The rooms are pretty decent. Some better than others. Every now and then I find a wow chica there. 5 mil beers.
Maracaibo and Ejucutiva usually have a better selection tho.[/QUOTE]What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2245632]My experience at La Isla is over the past 2 years I have spent about 5 to 7 nights in the club, twice I found a chica that I just had to bang, both ended up just so-so, no bad but not great just so-so, two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I never buy a girl in house or pay the multa to get them out anymore.
I just go to La Isla and Fase2 to get phone numbers. I have found that if you call them up and they decide to spend the night.
With you instead of going to work then your chances of having a very good time with them has just quadrupled.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2245577]Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]I always report good and bad sessions every trip. I have paid upfront and had awesome sessions and paid afterward for a lousy session. And vice versa. What I was telling the OP is he better make it clear before he gets into the room if he plans to pay afterward. The girls on Mil Eroticos will tell you they are a prepago and expect the $ up front. Most of the time it is not an issue. Believe me, if I have a bad session, you will hear about it with as much detail as possible.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=BrazilKing;2245731]What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.[/QUOTE]Just jump in a taxi and tell him to take you to Conejitas. It is across from the square where the Palacio de la Cultura and Parque Berrio station are. From the Palacio diagonally bisect the square. It is across the street from the opposite corner.
[QUOTE=BrazilKing;2245731]What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.[/QUOTE]Calle 53 #51-41.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2245632],two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes expensive, she told me, multa, exit fee was 180 k cop, then outside she wanted 800 k for 4 hours that was she said negotiable, but for that I think is better just to bang in the club.
As mentioned also by MedellinGringo could be an option to ask for her phone, also you will need to buy some drinks that are 28 k.
A place similar to gustos. Many working girl.
Yesterday I saw a really beautiful girl, but she was already with a group and left early. I think here they quote between 100 and 200 USD, but price can be arranged.
Also at night many of the girls in hacienda where walking at Lleras and approaching you to ask if you want company and one drop it to just 200 k cop. Is funny at the bar you have to approach her but outside they go straight to you.
[QUOTE=Socker;2245647]You have to pay up front in casas and strip clubs. A potential tip should steer your session in a good direction.
Only suckers pay FLs up front. It's a deal breaker for me.[/QUOTE]Except for Energy and New Life.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2245821]Just jump in a taxi and tell him to take you to Conejitas. It is across from the square where the Palacio de la Cultura and Parque Berrio station are. From the Palacio diagonally bisect the square. It is across the street from the opposite corner.[/QUOTE]Or even better, tell taxista, Conejitas, CL. 53 #51-41.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2245577]Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]Truth. The few times I paid up front resulted in a crappy session. If it comes up just explain you always pay after and she's free to leave. They never do.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2245744]I never buy a girl in house or pay the multa to get them out anymore.
I just go to La Isla and Fase2 to get phone numbers. I have found that if you call them up and they decide to spend the night.
With you instead of going to work then your chances of having a very good time with them has just quadrupled.[/QUOTE]Yes much better, what I do now is 90% of the time is to try them out in the club, see how the attitude and chemistry really is, then get their number and follow through for a session when they are off work. My fun factor just about doubles when I practice this.
The Tall Man.
Usually upfront girls around the world are an indication of drama queens with history of fighting with clients. And once you give her the money upfront you just removed all her motivation to give you good service, no incentive but only drama so that she can leave earlier.
And I don't like discussing this upfront in the clubs either it just kills the whole mood. Its best to just give her cap money and ask her to get f out before anything. Not every girl but most.
I guess, its like your boss giving you next year salary upfront.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2245965]Truth. The few times I paid up front resulted in a crappy session. If it comes up just explain you always pay after and she's free to leave. They never do.[/QUOTE]
Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise?
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.
What's your opinion?
[QUOTE=DonDeeres;2246093]
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.[/QUOTE]Maybe you have still to learn from experience that, if something goes REALLY wrong, you cannot make her to leave on your command and you are in trouble.
[QUOTE=DonDeeres;2246093]Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise? I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking. What's your opinion?[/QUOTE]Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246205]Maybe you have still to learn from experience that, if something goes REALLY wrong, you cannot make her to leave on your command and you are in trouble.[/QUOTE]I was thinking what if you like her on the picture and when you arrive or she arrives, she is not what you expected. Wouldn't be akward to tell her, you not the girl I thought here is some money for taxi and ciao?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2246251]Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.[/QUOTE]Please don't mince words! -.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2246251]Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.[/QUOTE]So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!
You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
El MEchanico.
It is called social netowrking because that is what it is. Be social and you will network.
If you get a paid profile here so you can receive private messages, that will help boost your social activity in the areas you desire.
[QUOTE=ShaneV;2245239]Hi all,
Looks like lots of members here were highly successful in connecting with women on Facebook, for action. I tried to search FB using all kinds of search terms, without much success.
Any pointers you guys can share how to look for women on FB in Medellin for fun.
Thanks much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2246606]So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!
You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
El MEchanico.[/QUOTE]Yes, El Mechanico, I was more thinking about having field advantage in the city I will visit for the first time.
Thanks for your input.
I will have to kindly ignore other negative comments.
The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.
Frank Herbert.
[QUOTE=DonDeeres;2246093]Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise?
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.
What's your opinion?[/QUOTE]There are 3 options: your place, her place, or a neutral place.
Your place. Depending on where you are staying, your place isn't always an option. Your place might not have a safe place to store your valuables, or might not have any security.
Her place. If she has a place she'll invite you to, in Medellin, she's probably working out of an apartment being used as a casa. Most of the girls do not live in a place where they would be comfortable inviting you, or where you would be comfortable going.
Neutral place. The most common option is a love motel. This will add from 16 k to 100 k to your cost, but might be worth it.
I never meet a girl at my place the first time. I meet in a bar, restaurant, at the metro station, or on the street outside of my place. If anything goes wrong, I can walk away, or hand her taxi money and send her packing.
Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:
[URL]http://atencionalcliente.movistar.co/Proteccion_al_usuario/No_al_hurto_de_terminales/[/URL]
I would like to understand the following.
1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
2) Same question for a mobile wifi router (MIFI), which I use with a SIM card with a data plan (Claro, usually).
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).
I hope to fix everything online or on phone before travelling. Thanks!
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2246606]So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm![/QUOTE]Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
[QUOTE]You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
[/QUOTE]Even a girl you know can go south. One visit she's pristine and adorable then the next she's been on drugs for six months. But we are talking about phone order prepagos so yes, screening, gut feel, communication and be ready to disengage before she gets in a taxi. I would imagine she would send photos through wpp for verification and usually you can tell if she's attentive and polite. Short term hotels are an option for strangers or prepagos but that is a hassle as well unless it's safe walking distance from your apartment. The idea is not to work too hard, stress or go out of one's way. It's easier, less time consuming and about the same cost just to go to casas and strip clubs even Gusto or Lleres at night but naturally people want girls to come to the apartment they are spending so much money to rent. For daytime, if a newbie, I would just go to casas. There's always two or three with a good group and that's enough for daytime action if you don't have a base. Don't be greedy. Go out, find a perfect 6 and enjoy the rest of your day after you banged a girl for $25.
If one is coming every month or two the strategy changes and you invest building your book by going out and meeting girls in venues like the strip clubs, get their number, talk to them later. But if you are just coming for a trial and don't have a base sometimes you have to accept risk but I doubt there is that much risk with a prepago if you screen properly. But if you have an apartment without security you have to be more protective.
Night time action seems more murky for the first timers. Absent a base from Facebook or staying at the Mansion what are the options? Strip clubs, Gusto, Nancy's place (Casa Piedro?) ? I would say Centro strip clubs as well. I've never needed to go to Centro at night but it works for some people. The problem for one new to Medellin is that Centro at night is probably intimidating and I believe you have to leave with the girl and rent a hotel room or take her to your place.
FWIW I always make a girl I do not know well take a yellow taxi, never uber. I pay the extra to make sure whoever she arrives with is not a potential accomplice.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2246606]So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm![/QUOTE]No. Just go outside before you tell her something that she may not like. When you are with a chick that you came to no specific price with then walk them outside before you pay them, unlike the guy in Sosua last week.
I am on the side of you never know. But after a couple thousand chicks I have only had problems with less than 10. And none of those involved some boyfriend or crew trying to rob me.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2246638] I've never needed to go to Centro at night but it works for some people. The problem for one new to Medellin is that Centro at night is probably intimidating and I believe you have to leave with the girl and rent a hotel room or take her to your place.[/QUOTE]I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246637]Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:
[URL]http://atencionalcliente.movistar.co/Proteccion_al_usuario/No_al_hurto_de_terminales/[/URL]
I would like to understand the following.
1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
2) Same question for a mobile wifi router (MIFI), which I use with a SIM card with a data plan (Claro, usually).
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).
I hope to fix everything online or on phone before travelling. Thanks![/QUOTE]There are no shops selling SIMs after 11 pm.
And there really isn't any reason to purchase a SIM card anyway.
If you have international data roaming. You have everything you need to communicate with women.
Just add them to your whatsapp and use it to write and call them. Or you can do the same using facebook and messenger.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2246906]There are no shops selling SIMs after 11 pm.
And there really isn't any reason to purchase a SIM card anyway.
If you have international data roaming. You have everything you need to communicate with women.
Just add them to your whatsapp and use it to write and call them. Or you can do the same using facebook and messenger.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246637]1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).[/QUOTE]Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.
I registered over the Internet using a passport number. I was out of the country when I did it. I use a Claro SIM card.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2247043]Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.[/QUOTE]
Two questions:
1. Why don't you put a data plan on the Colombian SIM card and be done with it? It's not expensive.
2. Why not upgrade your 50 k phone so you don't have to deal with the mifi? Your phone you use at home is no more likely to be stolen than the cheap phone you use in Colombia, assuming your 15 years of experience means you know better than to flaunt it.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246922]Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246637]Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:.[/QUOTE]At first I got UK Three (one year 12 gb service) for like 50 bucks. It didn't work for me with an unlocked iPhone.
I then went to a cell shop to buy a tigo sim card and then to gana to fill it up. I knew that my phone would be denied service eventually if I didn't register it (I think the grace period is over a week). I went on the tigo website and just registered my phone with my passport ID number. I also needed the invoice that proved that I bought my phone (good thing apple emails you a receipt). I pulled that sucker up and registered it then got a text message that said my registration was completed OK within a few minutes.
I think this was the URL.
[URL]https://www.tigo.com.co/atencion-al-cliente/registra-tu-equipo[/URL]
Since I was just in Colombia for a week, I don't know for sure if my phone will get blocked when I return to Colombia though. I didn't need a photo of my passport or anything like that.
I did the halloween one week trip.
Before / During Halloween:
New life: 6's and below. Use to be only 8's and 9's, not sure what happened. Was very confused as there was even a very overweight girl working. If I meet these girls in a club, I'd prob pass. Every time I went there were like 5 guys hanging out there. I really don't like to go after another guy on the same day. I get more starfishes. I figure there were no 8's and 9's and if there were they had already been used up. I went in the morning, afternoon and night and it was the same. Tons of guys waiting and a bunch of 6's or below.
Divi group: also 6's and below except for one 7. I had her like 4 times because there wasn't enough options. Also was getting charged 45 k but got some kind of 10 punch card thing where the 10th is free or something.
Photoprepagos: I know I was suppose to wait outside and have the girl greet me to make sure it was not a bait and switch but she insisted I greet her inside her bedroom. I went up and meet a 5 or 6. I gave her the money up front and she left the room for like 10 minutes. She came back and started. I paid 20 k extra for a really bad BBBJ, then when I went in, she looked like she was in pain. I figure she had been working hard for days. I finished fast and she left the room and came back after like 15 minutes. I was pretty unfulfilled but wanted to try photoprepagos again. My sample size was small.
Facebook: I hooked up with a facebook girl Paula Andrea Garcia. I feel like she's a 9 in her facebook photos and her face looks almost exactly like her in real life. She was def not a starfish and she had the best moves I've seen in Medellin but she does have a little loose skin around her belly area (baby damage probably). Damage was 200 k plus cab (gave her 50 k, she was happy with that).
After Halloween:
New life: I went in right when it opened figuring maybe I'll get a unused 7 or something. I didn't see any guys waiting. I was then greeted with a few 8's and what I'd consider a 9 but most of you guys would consider 7's and 8's. I went back in the afternoon and night and the other times I was greeted with 8's and 9's. I was pretty happy with new life for the rest of the trip since I only had a few days after Halloween.
I guess the moral of this story was every monger goes out on Halloween and most girls either go to parties or take their kids out for trick or treating or day of the dead stuff or something. Prob going to skip out on holiday mongering from now on.
Street girls: so I passed by what I thought was a new location for street girls on an uber ride but couldn't speak Spanish so couldn't get dropped off quick to investigate.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2247043]Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.[/QUOTE]I have an update, maybe useful to others.
I followed the procedure on the Movistar web site to register the IMEI of the old Nokia GSM phone. It asked lots of info, but the invoice of purchase is optional. I was able to enter my foreign passport number, specifying the city and country of issuance (I do not plan to organize any illegal activity using this phone, so I am not concerned about this), but I had to enter an address of Colombia. I entered a hotel in Medellin. I got a receipt, but no ACK by email yet.
Then I spent half an hour trying to contact the linea of atencion al cliente of Movistar. Finally, a very nice lady responded. She said:
1) My name is not associated to the SIM card, which is registered under the name of some Colombian. Of course, he must be the owner of the shop where I bought it many years ago. I should go to a Movistar office to register it, but of course I will not, as it seems not necessary.
2) The IMEI was successfully registered today on the web site. So, at least this problem should be solved.
3) She suggested to top up my SIM card using the Movistar web site.
I tried to top up on the Movistar web site. My card was charged for 20 k COP, but the recarga was not successful. WTF! It says it will keep trying later. I hope it will work.
The MIFI should not need to be registered, as it comes from an operator of my country (branded equipment). At least, this is stated on the FAQ of the Movistar web site. I hope this is true.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246922]Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.[/QUOTE]Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
I only use a Colombia cell to call landlines when I'm away from my apartment.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.
Google fi is a lot faster than T-Mobile here.
Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2247229]Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
I only use a Colombia cell to call landlines when I'm away from my apartment.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.
Google fi is a lot faster than T-Mobile here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2246681]I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.[/QUOTE]Are we talking night time action? Where do you like to go. I was under the impression that the three major strip clubs I read about have short term hotels close but I think that would be too much for those newer to the MDE scene.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247240]Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.[/QUOTE]I use google fi right now because T-mobile cut off my data service for being out of the country too long.
They did me a big favor. Google fi is faster than T-mobile but not quite as fast as having data from Claro or Movistar.
I like Google Fi because it is fast enough to have skype or whatsapp calls and calls to the USA Are free if connected to WIFI or 20 cents to call or receive calls from the USA If not connected to WIFI.
Google Fi also gives you a data only SIM that you can use in an other device. I use it in my Ipad that I keep in my car. It works great to stream music. But it cut out on me a few times driving to the airport so coverage for the data only SIM isn't as good as the phone it seems.
I use about 12 GB a month and pay 60 bucks plus tax for the data portion of my phone bill. Google charges 10 bucks per GB up until 6 GB and it is free after that.
I haven't checked what Claro or Movistar charge for 12 GBs of data but I don't think they offer free calls to the USA When connected to WIFI.
The down side to using a USA Phone is Colombia is there is no good way to call local landlines or to call cell phones that are not on whatsapp.
I don't know a single chick here that doesn't have whatsapp but sometimes they don't buy data and aren't connected to the internet so that is a drawback.
I can text their phones for free with Google Fi but they can't can't respond. But at least they know to get to WIFI so we can communicate.
I agree. The thing is that Gusto was great 3 to 5 years ago. It's just gotten really bad the past couple years. I think guys think it's close, convenient, and familiar so they go.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2245189]My thoughts exactly! I have said it before that I have been in Gusto's about 4 or 5 times in the past 2 or 3 years, each time spending 3 to 5 hours, so not just a quick walk through, and I went on weekend nights, I have never seen a girl above a 7, period! And none interested me, none! I too am baffled why this club even gets mentioned at all.
IMHO!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]
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Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247077]Two questions:
1. Why don't you put a data plan on the Colombian SIM card and be done with it? It's not expensive.[/QUOTE]As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
1) my regular smart phone, with the regular SIM card of my country, without roaming but always connected to the 4G portable wifi router (a.k.a. MIFI), in which I put a Colombia SIM card with data plan (Claro usually);
2) a cheap GSM phone for local calls and SMS, in which I put my Movistar SIM card which I have been using for years already, without data plan.
Why I don't put a Colombian SIM card in my smart phone? Because I want to receive calls (I call back) and sms to my usual home country number. I need to be reachable.
Why I still use the old cheap GSM phone for calling and I do not upgrade it to something more modern? Because [i]"no dar papaya"[/i] is my motto. I need such a cheap phone. I never take a smartphone with me when at night I go outside of Poblado.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247077]2. Why not upgrade your 50 k phone so you don't have to deal with the mifi? Your phone you use at home is no more likely to be stolen than the cheap phone you use in Colombia, assuming your 15 years of experience means you know better than to flaunt it.[/QUOTE]The answer is obvious, since you must have the same 15 years of experience as me travelling around the world.
YES, a Samsung S7 Edge will attract more attention in a street of Raudal than a [i]"flecha"[/i] (popular name for the old Nokia GSM phone, because [i]"Incluso los indios de la selva utilizan un telefono como eso"[/i]). NO DAR PAPAYA. There must be a reason if I dare to walk around alone in Centro well after midnight, at times (and the only time I was robbered I lost 50 k and no more than that).
I use the smartphone (with my home country SIM card, to be reachable on my usual number) connected to the MIFI when I am in a reasonably safe zone (I play Pokemon Go in Poblado). I leave it at home and I use the GSM phone at night.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247074]I registered over the Internet using a passport number. I was out of the country when I did it. I use a Claro SIM card.[/QUOTE]YES, correct.
I understand that, after writing this, you must have read my other update report [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2247168&viewfull=1#post2247168[/URL] where I explained that I did the same, but on the Movistar web site.
[QUOTE=Duncan216;2247110]I went on the tigo website and just registered my phone with my passport ID number. I also needed the invoice that proved that I bought my phone (good thing apple emails you a receipt). I pulled that sucker up and registered it then got a text message that said my registration was completed OK within a few minutes.[/QUOTE]On the Movistar web site, the invoice copy is optional and I was able to register the IMEI by just giving the passport number.
As I explained, I did not receive ANY acknowledgment from Movistar that my IMEI was correctly registered, but I called the Customer Care line (with some difficulty) and the lady confirmed that the registration was successful.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2247229]Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.[/QUOTE]Dear MG, I am sure you will not be surprised to hear that:
1) I do NOT give my usual phone number, registered on WA, to ANYONE I meet in streets. I give it only to selected people.
I give my Colombian Movistar cell phone number, instead, to casual acquaitances, including girls from clubs and streets.
2) I have the impression that your target is limited to girls above some social level jajaja. My scope is more inclusive, so to speak. Some girl I met in Centro called me from a street "minutos", as she did not even have a phone.
3) Regular girls I like to meet at night have a smartphone and use WA. Yes. But if I go out at night, I know I may start my night in a club, but I don't know where I will end up. 6 months ago (duly reported), I started from a swinger club at 12, I met a girl and played there, at 3 am we went out, at 4 am we were in a sketchy amanecero north of Prado (about 2 metro stations after Prado), at 5 am we ended in a love motel. I would be crazy to venture in an amanecero I don't know, with a lady I met 3 hours before, in an area where there are not even homeless people, with a Samsung S7 above.
Finally, my Operator is Vodafone and they charge roaming outside Europe TOO MUCH. Should I change operator? There are advantages and disadvantages.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2247582]Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
........................................
3) Regular girls I like to meet at night have a smartphone and use WA. Yes. But if I go out at night, I know I may start my night in a club, but I don't know where I will end up. 6 months ago (duly reported), I started from a swinger club at 12, I met a girl and played there, at 3 am we went out, at 4 am we were in a sketchy amanecero north of Prado (about 2 metro stations after Prado), at 5 am we ended in a love motel. I would be crazy to venture in an amanecero I don't know, with a lady I met 3 hours before, in an area where there are not even homeless people, with a Samsung S7 above.[/QUOTE]Why not sort this out via PM with someone already willing to help you? It's obviously a one-off problem that the rest of us don't need to remedy.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2247588]Why not sort this out via PM with someone already willing to help you? It's obviously a one-off problem that the rest of us don't need to remedy.[/QUOTE]The excess of OOT chit chat is an old issue of this thread, apparently impossible to solve. I will stop, point taken, but the need to register the IMEI cannot be named "a one-off problem". ANYONE using a phone in Colombia with a local SIM card needs to register, or may have the phone blocked in Colombia. It's a big headache for most of us, I believe (unless we go for roaming, or we go buy a phone in the shop of a Colombian operator). We must be aware of it, and know how to get rid of that.
A dual SIM phone can be useful for you. I consider it a must for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. I hear even Apple is about to release a dual SIM version, 10 years after other mobile platforms like every other feature. It eliminates the need to carry and use multiple phones. For those interested in modern conveniences.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2247582]Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
1) my regular smart phone, with the regular SIM card of my country, without roaming but always connected to the 4G portable wifi router (a.k.a. MIFI), in which I put a Colombia SIM card with data plan (Claro usually);
2) a cheap GSM phone for local calls and SMS, in which I put my Movistar SIM card which I have been using for years already, without data plan.
Why I don't put a Colombian SIM card in my smart phone? Because I want to receive calls (I call back) and sms to my usual home country number. I need to be reachable.
Why I still use the old cheap GSM phone for calling and I do not upgrade it to something more modern? Because [i]"no dar papaya"[/i] is my motto. I need such a cheap phone. I never take a smartphone with me when at night I go outside of Poblado..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2246638]Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
Even a girl you know can go south. One visit she's pristine and adorable then the next she's been on drugs for six months. But we are talking about phone order prepagos so yes, screening, gut feel, communication and be ready to disengage before she gets in a taxi. I would imagine she would send photos through wpp for verification and usually you can tell if she's attentive and polite. Short term hotels are an option for strangers or prepagos but that is a hassle as well unless it's safe walking distance from your apartment. The idea is not to work too hard, stress or go out of one's way. It's easier, less time consuming and about the same cost just to go to casas and strip clubs even Gusto or Lleres at night but naturally people want girls to come to the apartment they are spending so much money to rent. For daytime, if a newbie, I would just go to casas. There's always two or three with a good group and that's enough for daytime action if you don't have a base. Don't be greedy. Go out, find a perfect 6 and enjoy the rest of your day after you banged a girl for $25..[/QUOTE]Good advice, thanks.
I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.
+1, I agree 100% on all points.
[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2247841]I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonDeeres;2246495]I was thinking what if you like her on the picture and when you arrive or she arrives, she is not what you expected. Wouldn't be akward to tell her, you not the girl I thought here is some money for taxi and ciao?[/QUOTE]Yes that's what I've done in the past. Akward? Definitely but it's not my / your fault if the chick decides to use fake pics or misrepresents her real looks drastically when she knows the decision of meeting up with her was based on mostly looks.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2246638]Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
[/QUOTE]You sound like you are pretty smart!! If you will go back and reread my post. Maybe a little slower this time. You will see I am replying to MrEnternational, not the OP. If fact, it seems like, and I may be misinterpreting his response, but a few posts later, the OP thanked me.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247606]A dual SIM phone can be useful for you. I consider it a must for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. I hear even Apple is about to release a dual SIM version, 10 years after other mobile platforms like every other feature. It eliminates the need to carry and use multiple phones. For those interested in modern conveniences.[/QUOTE]The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2248527]You sound like you are pretty smart!! If you will go back and reread my post. Maybe a little slower this time. You will see I am replying to MrEnternational, not the OP. If fact, it seems like, and I may be misinterpreting his response, but a few posts later, the OP thanked me.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I think Chicafan was agreeing with you and referring to me.
[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2247841]
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
[/QUOTE]That's the truth!
Seems to be an actual, all day hangout spot now, LOL.
I picked a girl, went back to the room with her, she started with all this fake, "oh baby, oh baby, you so good" blah blah.
I told her to stop it, that I didn't need all the fake talk, and to just go with the flow.
She was pretty hot, but mechanical and fake, tried to upsell BBBJ at 50 kp.
I almost left the room, but just got it done and left.
I won't be back there for a bit.
I'll stick with my stable of amigas, and hunt for for new, non-spoiled newbies.
Off to Brazil though for now!
[QUOTE=Balboa;2248584]I picked a girl, went back to the room with her, she started with all this fake, "oh baby, oh baby, you so good" blah blah.
I told her to stop it, that I didn't need all the fake talk, and to just go with the flow.[/QUOTE]Same shit happened to me in New Life. I guess porn movies work that way on both ends. Men are expecting women to be like they see on porn movies and women are thinking men want the bad acting and fake bodies they see on the same movies.
Although I am sure no one reading this would fall for this but I had an interesting dialog with a chica I met through Facebook. I have not physically met her just messaging back and forth for a couple of weeks. She asked me a strange favor today. She wanted me to send her a copy of my drivers license to compare with a friends license. Said she had a friend in the US that claims to have a valid license but was told it was fake. I played along and she sent me a copy of her friend's license. It was a license but a French license. She asked for mine and I said no. I asked her why her friend as a French license in the US? She said she didn't know. Anyway just passing the information along. Always be on guard.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2248559]I think Chicafan was agreeing with you and referring to me.[/QUOTE]I'll delete my post as it served no purpose anyway! I tried but I can't seem to delete it!
El Mechanico.
I'm new to mongering, and it will probably always stay a casual by-the-way thing for me while I live in Colombia (although Pattaya one day does sound tempting), but I thought I'd contribute a report (had one free day in Medellín).
Went to Cra 45 57-55 at 1 pm, there were maybe 10-15 girls working, thought that all in all they were pretty attractive, 6-8's, though perhaps most mongers' standards here are more exacting. Chose a tall, highly attractive Costeña with a nice butt called Paola, paid 75 k for an hour. She did ask me to pay 5 k for a beer but she was very customer service-minded and warm, she received anal, beso negro and cunningulus on top of regular service, only asking for a tip. Gave her 20 k as a propina, although I would have given less if I had the change before you guys scream at me.
Anyway, highly recommend the place and the girl.
Now, a question. Would you guys risk cunningulus with these girls? Have you veterans ever had any STDs because of it?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2248534]The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.[/QUOTE]I always add something to the contact to help me identify the person. Fellow members get ISG added to the contact. Chicas get the source of the contact added. FB, Tinder, SA, etc. When a message pops up, there's no confusion about who I'm talking to. I do the same thing with business contacts. So, if I get a call from Jim at ABC company, I don't have to spend 10 seconds figuring out which Jim I'm talking to.
Huawei makes an excellent dual SIM phone that's available in Colombia. It's comparable to the Samsung S7 at about half the price.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2248630]She wanted me to send her a copy of my drivers license to compare with a friends license. Said she had a friend in the US that claims to have a valid license but was told it was fake. I played along and she sent me a copy of her friend's license. It was a license but a French license. She asked for mine and I said no. I asked her why her friend as a French license in the US? She said she didn't know. Anyway just passing the information along. Always be on guard.[/QUOTE]Never know. I have a Thai license in the US. Went to a club in Vegas once and dude would not let me in. He had a book with ids from around the world. Since I don't have a Thai visa I get a temporary license every 2 years which has a different color at the top and says temporary instead of permanent as the 5 year one does which you need a visa for. Only the permanent one was in the book so he thought mine was fake. Besides that I was like 40 at the time. What I look like trying to get in the club with a fake ID?
So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.
I'm confused, are you worried the monger contacts will be able to communicate with the non monger contacts through your phone? If get it if you mean somebody else has access to your phone who you don't want to see monger contacts.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2248534]The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2248768]I'm confused, are you worried the monger contacts will be able to communicate with the non monger contacts through your phone? If get it if you mean somebody else has access to your phone who you don't want to see monger contacts.[/QUOTE]Yes, I mean someone else has access to my phone. They can easily see the contact, pictures or know where I work. These are something that I would rather not share with someone I just met.
[QUOTE=Skrillasun;2248698]So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.
Here's a pro tip: A girl that really likes you will get extremely pissed off if you try to pay her for sex. A girl who you grossly overpay for sex will really like getting paid to have sex with you.
[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2247841]....................New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos........................[/QUOTE]Ten years ago I would be the only non-Colombian there and most days the only hobbyist there. Girls were more or less the same but occasionally you would see an outstanding beauty. The hottest girl I've ever sessioned was at New Life circa 2009/2010. More gringos there now thanks to ISG.
[QUOTE=Skrillasun;2248698]So, I'mNow I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]Congrats Skrillasun, If this had happened to me I would simply enjoy the experience, hope to see her next trip & wait for the RFM!!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2246681]I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.[/QUOTE]I agree. However, there are good options. Close to all the centro strip clubs are love motels. Some actually pretty decent!
ON a week night, when the clubs close at 2 am (sometimes earlier) I have always had a pretty easy time finding a girl I liked for 100 cop and was willing to hang out back at my place or a nearby hotel for a little while. I've actually had many great experiences this way with only a few duds.
Cool. Good for you. It happens more often than many would guess. Get a paid membership so we can private message.
[QUOTE=Skrillasun;2248698]So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2249059]Cool. Good for you. It happens more often than many would guess. Get a paid membership so we can private message.[/QUOTE]Yes, it does happens but some degree of caution should be utilized because could be a smart move on her part to lure you in where she can set you up for the big pay day later.
So on my way back from Medellin to feminist Europe, I decided to spend a couple of days stay in sunny Miami (MIA was the only place I found with direct flights to MDE from you. S). I am a hip hop fan so I figured I wanted to see what "King of Diamonds" is all about. I was surprised the door keepers were carrying firearms there but it also made feel safer once inside. The club was gigantic and beautiful but girls were below average, maybe I came on a slow day. Anyways I drove off to this place called Tootsie's Cabaret, I'm sure you guys in MIA know this place. The girls here are smoking hot here, as if it was handpicked to my liking. But I was just checking out the club. There I met guy complaining that girl had just scammed him for almost $400 USD. After the lapdance a cuben girl told him they could have sex in the privat room even though there are signs everywhere saying its illegal. He was also tourist and believed maybe it is true. Inside the room she just wasted time with lap dancing and using almost 10 minutes just to get undressed, long story short after 30 minutes the guy didn't get no sex and time for the room was up. I told him to complain to security, but then again its illegal act so what can he really say. I was shocked to hear it. Is this a known scam miami or do some girls have actually have sex in the privat room?
Anyways I am planning to go back to MDE in December but afraid it may slow since it is catholic country and girls might leave town. Anyone can confirm this?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2248946]What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.
Here's a pro tip: A girl that really likes you will get extremely pissed off if you try to pay her for sex. A girl who you grossly overpay for sex will really like getting paid to have sex with you.[/QUOTE]What he doesn't understand is in 2 nights he paid her her monthly salary.
It depends on when you go in December. There are many chicas to be had before Christmas, as most all of them have saved nothing and now need to buy Christmas presents, food, and new clothes.
The week between Christmas and new years can be tough, as many chicas either go out of town with family or stay home If you already have your list, you can find some of them who will come to see you. If you are a relative newbie and do not have much of a list, then it might be tougher. You can always find it, but it may not be as easy or to the standards you like.
Things start to return to normal after new year's. Many of the girls are still on vacation (of course, some of them are on 24/7 vacation anyway). But it's back to reality. The January bills are due. University tuition will be due soon.
I always head down there after Christmas and stay until well after new year's and never have a problem. I actually like it because there are not many gringos. And personally, I don't go to Colombia for the gringos, so I try to avoid the places where they hang out. I prefer places where I am the only gringo.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2249109]
Anyways I am planning to go back to MDE in December but afraid it may slow since it is catholic country and girls might leave town. Anyone can confirm this?[/QUOTE]
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2249144]It depends on when you go in December.
I always head down there after Christmas and stay until well after new year's and never have a problem. I actually like it because there are not many gringos. And personally, I don't go to Colombia for the gringos, so I try to avoid the places where they hang out. I prefer places where I am the only gringo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2249230]I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?[/QUOTE]No Sir, sorry. Definitely not. Given the fact, that the 1st (Tue) and the 7th (Mon) are holidays, the business will go back to normal after the 8th of January. But then the girls are in real need of support, hence highly motivated.
A taxi driver told me of a casa called "venezolanas" , other drivers did not know. I believe it is all hours. Anyone know of it? Sorry if I overlooked and obvious prior posts. Regards.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2249230]I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?[/QUOTE]Christmas Eve and Christmas day are difficult. I only had 2 girls hit me up to see if I was interested on those days. Things were pretty slow around Parque Lleras on those days as well. It didn't help that I was staying in a non-chica friendly hotel those days since my roommate's entire family came to Medellin for Christmas. A few days after Christmas Club Fahrenheit was slow. Less than half full and probably only 15 working girls in the crowd.
The thing is, if you're willing to look, you can always find someone to keep you company in Medellin.
I think you might mean the one in Floresta near the metro.
I ran out of time the day I was going to try it. I hear it more hit than miss. Let us know how you make out.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2249257]A taxi driver told me of a casa called "venezolanas" , other drivers did not know. I believe it is all hours. Anyone know of it? Sorry if I overlooked and obvious prior posts. Regards.[/QUOTE]
Use the single SIM phone at home and travel with the dual SIM phone. You can just add your home SIM to the dual SIM phone with the Colombia SIM. This way you would only have to use one phone at a time whether your are traveling or you are at home.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2248908]Yes, I mean someone else has access to my phone. They can easily see the contact, pictures or know where I work. These are something that I would rather not share with someone I just met.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all the descriptions.
[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2247841]I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2248946]What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.[/QUOTE]When you add the two nights together, he actually got a pretty good deal. I agree he overpaid for the first night, but underpaid for the second. Less than 250 mil for TLN is a good deal.
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2249271]I think you might mean the one in Floresta near the metro.
I ran out of time the day I was going to try it. I hear it more hit than miss. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]I'm living near floresta station. I'd love to have an address, I could probably walk there.
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2249521]When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.[/QUOTE]Just ask them about work. If they have no job, or a simple service type job (waitress, retail, etc.) you're probably golden. If they work for a large bank, physician's office, or have a successful family business, for examples, you might want to look elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2249230]I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?[/QUOTE]I've done a post-Christmas / New Year's trip, twice. MDE then CTG and CTG then MDE. I would recommend going to CTG for the week after Christmas, as it becomes a holiday destination for Colombians and WGs, alike. Then, as MDE picks back up, take a cheap flight. Caveat being, CTG is more expensive, in general, and even more so during high-season / holidays. I prefer having a beer by the Clock Tower (CTG) and people-watching, during slow times, over scouring FB or hopping empty bar to empty bar in MDE, during Finca week. CTG is, essentially, more concentrated for a first-timer or newbie, at that time of year. I prefer MDE, but that week is unique, in my opinion.
Just got back in town after three plus weeks in Bolivia and Belize on business. If you want to waste your time, or simply feel good about Medellin, check out my Bolivia reports. Man, it's good to be back. Every time I leave for an extended period of time, I convince myself the girls here can't be as hot as I'm remembering them. And every time I'm wrong.
New Life. I went to New Life on Saturday afternoon. It was my first time there, not sure why. I couldn't believe the number of gringos; the place was packed. I wasn't overly impressed with the lineup, out of the 10 or so girls I only liked two. I chose Camila after I remembered reading something positive about her on this forum. She was good, great natural tits, nice face, good ass, although I have to say her body was a little hairy, which is a turnoff, especially from behind. But overall a pleasant session; she did everything I wanted. Not sure I would go back any time soon, although as I say the place was packed so I'm sure some of the talent was already busy, and the price was certainly right. 54 K and that included the beer.
Tantra. I went to Tantra today. Solid lineup; of the 8 or so I did not like only two. Chose a 20-year-old chica named Mariana with a great natural body and beautiful face. She gave a lazy ass blowjob and she was a little uppity, but she was friendly and did as requested. I paid a small propina to tittyfuck her without a condom and came on her face, and she was cool with it. I left very satisfied. Standard 130 K plus 20 K propina for an hour.
Tantra and Energy remain my go-to massage places, and I know a lot of the members on this forum agree with that.
Politely tell them that you do not want to offend them but would like to spend time with them and give them a gift. What would be an appropriate gift.
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2249521]When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2249521]When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.[/QUOTE]I found, after making over 150 facebook friends with chicas, that I've refined my introduction and pitch to such a degree that usually now I just copy and paste the same phrases over and over.
1. When you find a girl to your liking, friend her and send her a short message about how your visiting Colombia and would like to meet them.
2. About 40% will respond to your message. If they're super enthusiastic and immediately agree right off the bat then you've struck prepago gold and can safely move on to step 5. Otherwise, make some small talk (How are you, I like your photos, you seem fun, etc.) and maybe tell them a little about yourself to put them at ease.
3. Close out the conversation by saying how you think we could have a good time together.
4. If they respond positively, tell them you'll message them again when you arrive. If they're not interested then they'll probably just ghost you at this point. A few will play dumb and ask what you mean, in which case it's time to say explicitly that you want to sleep with them. You may think this is crass but you're here for booty, not to make friends.
5. Once in Medellin or wherever message them again asking if they'd like to come to your apartment or hotel at a certain time.
6. If they're willing to come to a stranger's apartment "for a good time" then you're 99% certain at this point that they're doing it for money. This is when I make my usual pitch of 150 mil for an hour plus bbj. I've had counter offers, and some girls refuse to bbj, but I've never had anyone get mad or insulted. I know some members here prefer not to mention money or expectations beforehand and just go with the flow but I feel you save yourself some headaches ironing everything out in advance. Last thing you want is some diva demanding $200 and threatening to make a scene.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2249258]Christmas Eve and Christmas day are difficult. I only had 2 girls hit me up to see if I was interested on those days. Things were pretty slow around Parque Lleras on those days as well. It didn't help that I was staying in a non-chica friendly hotel those days since my roommate's entire family came to Medellin for Christmas. A few days after Christmas Club Fahrenheit was slow. Less than half full and probably only 15 working girls in the crowd.
The thing is, if you're willing to look, you can always find someone to keep you company in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will consider postponing this as many here agree one to two weeks will be slow this upcoming holidays. With paises already being flaky and then you add holidays to equation it could be a dead end. I have some contacts but prefer all the options on the table.
The time before Navidad should be pretty good, as girls will be scrambling for money for gifts. The week between Christmas and New Years will be a little tougher. Some girls will go out of town and some will just hang will families. There are always chicas to be had, it's just not as easy. Then it picks back up after New Year's Day.
You can have a good time in Parque Lleras for New Year's Eve (or La 33 or La 70). Maybe in those days between Christmas and New Years you can actually do something besides fucking like riding the metro cable or visiting the Museum to see the Boteros or going out of town to do an ATV or bike tour or go to a neighboring small town for some sun and fun.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2249230]I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?[/QUOTE]
When talking to a girl on tinder FB cupid there are simple 2 words that will answer your most important question.
"Eres scort?
Simple. If they say no most likely they won't be offended and even if they are just apologize say so many girls are so you had to ask. If they are then you're in.
I was just in Medellin for 2 weeks and it was that simple and the girls who weren't didn't even get offended.
Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2249720]When talking to a girl on tinder FB cupid there are simple 2 words that will answer your most important question.
"Eres scort?
Simple. If they say no most likely they won't be offended and even if they are just apologize say so many girls are so you had to ask. If they are then you're in.
I was just in Medellin for 2 weeks and it was that simple and the girls who weren't didn't even get offended.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2249750]Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.[/QUOTE]LMAO! I woulda followed up by apologizing and simply stating that so many girls are telling me they are so I wanted to make sure you're not. LOL. It worked for me and I hooked up with 3 freebies.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2247254]Are we talking night time action? Where do you like to go. I was under the impression that the three major strip clubs I read about have short term hotels close but I think that would be too much for those newer to the MDE scene.[/QUOTE]I 'tried' to try the Centro clubs. They are in shady back streets, people sleeping on the pavements all over (at 5 PM).
The clubs weren't even open yet, it was Sunday. My understanding was they open by 2 or 4.
My hotel guy (in EL Pob) had strictly advised not to go there after dark.
In any case I didn't get get an opportunity to 'actually' try them, but they are definitely in 'shady' streets.
HTH.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2247240]Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.[/QUOTE]I just got a local SIM at the mall. Costed 20 K for 2 GB- not sure of carrier, it showed p as Airtel. Not sure if it was 1 week or unlimited time.
Data worked great, did not use voice (No Espaneol), but for some reason the Texting wouldn't work.
Overall it worked out.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2249928]I 'tried' to try the Centro clubs. They are in shady back streets, people sleeping on the pavements all over (at 5 PM).
The clubs weren't even open yet, it was Sunday. My understanding was they open by 2 or 4.
My hotel guy (in EL Pob) had strictly advised not to go there after dark.
In any case I didn't get get an opportunity to 'actually' try them, but they are definitely in 'shady' streets.[/QUOTE]LOL. You were scared because there were homeless people? Back streets? They are on main thoroughfares. I don't even know if those clubs are open on Sundays, but on Monday thru Saturday you don't want to go to them before 8 pm. Just like Fase 2, you don't go there until like 11pm. Daytime in Colombia is casa action. People go there when they have lunchtime or a break from work. Night time is nightclub/stripclub action. People go there when they are finished work and want to wind down or party.
[QUOTE=Talon;2249659]I found, after making over 150 facebook friends with chicas, that I've refined my introduction and pitch to such a degree that usually now I just copy and paste the same phrases over and over.
1. When you find a girl to your liking, friend her and send her a short message about how your visiting Colombia and would like to meet them.
2. About 40% will respond to your message. If they're super enthusiastic and immediately agree right off the bat then you've struck prepago gold and can safely move on to step 5. Otherwise, make some small talk (How are you, I like your photos, you seem fun, etc.) and maybe tell them a little about yourself to put them at ease.
3. Close out the conversation by saying how you think we could have a good time together.
4.... [/QUOTE]Hahah I love the breakdown Talon. Thanks a lot.
So I'm already doing 1-2. 3 is a perfect transition line that I'll start using. I'll definitely get a good feel on what they're thinking. I guess I can gauge their intentions from here since I definitely don't want to tell them I'm just trying to bang and willing to pay LOL. I'm more concern of offending a non-pro, which are worth gold to me haha. I've had what happened to another poster happened to me where a had solid 7's totally stop talking to me once I mentioned the prepago thing and I'm pretty sure they were down haha.
But regardless I think knowing if there is money involved first and, IF there is, finding out how much before anything happens is key to avoid any potential issues.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2249750]Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.[/QUOTE]I can't read your pic but I can only imagine how they responded because I had a bad experience with two girls asking that question too LOL!
I guess that was my next question. How to go about bringing the subject up to a non pro without offending them. Personally I'the prefer a non pro than a pro plus it's free so treating them nicely matters LOL.
I guess my last resort would be what Sangnyc21 suggested and try to play it off some how (probably a 50/50 chance there LOL).
[QUOTE=TheBiller22;2249521]When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.[/QUOTE]I guess in this situation it's a bonus from my Facebook picture that I'm an obvious middle aged gringo. If they friend me at all it pretty much means they're a prepago.
I usually post when I'm going to be in Medellin and / or when I arrive. The ones that that respond or start sending me messages are probably prepagos. If they are ones I'm interested in then I'll respond to them. I've only hit up one girl where she may have not been a prepago. My initial message is something like "I'm looking for a date and wondering if you are available" so it wasn't too awkward when she didn't respond with "si, amor" right away. My next message is usually "what will I owe you for your company?" and I negotiate from there. The response is almost always 150 K + Taxi or 200 K total. I always negotiate the price but not necessarily the exact details. (I may change that). I definitely don't want any drama when it comes time to pay.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2243744]Reached last Saturday afternoon.
1st evening at Parqe llera. Lots of Halloween crowd, lost of SWs. Nothing good.
Fase Dos:
Sunday evening 10 pm, thin crowd.
This is strip club, girls dance, come around for collection, girls mingle for solicitation. Atmosphere is good overall, girls 6 -8.
Picked up a chic-Frida (dark skin, slim, bolt Ons, 7) - poor experience service, 190 K. (Beers are 20 K).
Luna Notera:
Wednesday afternoon 4 PM.
This is fuck place (no dancing), girls come and introduce themselves- just name, mostly 5 -8. Beers 15 K.
Picked a chic. Vanessa, slim, natural (As), 7.5- decent+ service, 150 K.
Photoprepagos.
Tried a chic after all the effort, bad experience. Details later.
Will post detailed adventures later.
Thanks.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2244548]I'm not trying to pick on you, but man you ask a ton of questions. I'll try to answer the latest batch here.
The price at Energy is 150 k for 1 hour full service. Search Fantasias Energy Medellin to find their website.
Loutron is the most expensive casa in Medellin. The price is somewhere in the 300 k range.
New Life is in El Centro at Calle 56 #43-39. It's easy to find, just look for the blue door. Aiffe is another casa a block away. It's at Calle 57 #43-27. It's also easy to find. Just look for the red door.
Hotel M Medellin is the Mansion, or Hotel Medellin Plaza.
There's so much talk about Gusto because some guys consider it the gateway to heaven and others think it's the pit of hell. In reality, it's just another disco, where hookers hang out and hope to find guys willing to overpay.[/QUOTE]JjBee for the help.
I believe in clarifying / confirming, else how will one know. Especially with all the language issues. And of course new unknown terrain. If not for Q&A one will not indulge in these adventures at all.
Thanks.
Sam.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2249750]Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.[/QUOTE]Well, there are more diplomatic way of finding out. A simple "que buscas aca" (what are you looking for) should do it. Most prepagadas will tell you.
Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.
I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
This is the area I'm talking about.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI[/URL]
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!) They don't have to be European model types. To me a pretentious club with skinny barbie girls asking me to buy them champagne is my idea of a nightmare. I'll take a sexy woman with a big smile and a nice rack and ass over that any day!
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated!
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2250010]Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.[/QUOTE]Sounds as though you should have stayed at the Mansion.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250035]Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.
I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
This is the area I'm talking about.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI[/URL]
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!) They don't have to be European model types. To me a pretentious club with skinny barbie girls asking me to buy them champagne is my idea of a nightmare. I'll take a sexy woman with a big smile and a nice rack and ass over that any day!
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]Can't answer all your questions since it's been a while since I have been in Medellin. As for curvy girls, the high end ones tend to have young, slim girls (mostly). If you go to cheaper places, you'll see more variety. But regardless of your type, you will find them in Colombia!!
The taxis I rode in were all safe and they are not so expensive. Better to take a taxi than Uber or walk. Enjoy and be sure to post a report!!
Thinking about staying there next trip. Anyone with any experience? I usually stay at Energy living but they are booked up the wazoo at least my favorite units are.
We will be in Medellin February, and March of 2019. Let me know if you would like to join! Newbies welcomed.
You probably have to add a voice package to be able to send and receive text messages. Bring the phone to a mobile store or the reception of your hotel. They will help you.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2249933]I just got a local SIM at the mall. Costed 20 K for 2 GB- not sure of carrier, it showed p as Airtel. Not sure if it was 1 week or unlimited time.
Data worked great, did not use voice (No Espaneol), but for some reason the Texting wouldn't work.
Overall it worked out.[/QUOTE]
The girls are gorgeous do you have contacts for them pm them please? What is the fb scene?
[QUOTE=VickyRai;2234651]Had an amazing trip to Medellin. This time stayed at Provenza Lofts in Park Lleras instead of mansion. Wanted to do facebook scene. Flight was delayed by half an hour. Landed at 1230 am. My hotel pick up didn't show up. Had to take private taxi as there was no white taxi available at 1 am. Reached hotel at 2 am. Room was very nice.
Met my first girl. Jennifer came over at 230 am. She has very pretty face and most beautiful eyes you can imagine. Pure GFE experience. But she is not slim. She is actually on heavier side, but very curvaceous. I saw her on my last trip also. * so there was an connection and more over she showed up at 230 am. Nobody else would..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250035]I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!)
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]I've never stayed in the downtown area, so I can't provide any advice for hotels or apartments there. The downtown area is loaded with Colombian shops and restaurants. Recently, I've been staying in Laureles. It is easy to travel between there and downtown for less than a dollar. Hotels and apartments in Laureles are clean and safe. The renter is the one who introduces non-safe conditions in almost all cases.
Taxis are very cheap and safe, but you don't need a taxi to visit the RLD and the casas in downtown. You can walk to most of them. There are many casas. Only walk during the daytime, never after dark. The areas in downtown you should avoid are where you don't see any locals walking. The Metro is cheap, fast, and safe. It's never happened to me, but I have heard of pickpocketers on the Metro. Other than going to and from the airport (or between places you are staying), never carry anything that, if you lost it, would cause a problem for you.
Most of the downtown casas will have some big chicas (the ones you call curvy).
I have met almost all the chicas I know on Facebook. You need to get a start, and then it will be like rabbits, they multiple fast.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250035]Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions....
[/QUOTE]I know it's tedious, but I suggest you take a little time and go back a few months on this list. You will find the answers you're looking for. There are various options for areas and types of places to stay. However, there is no best option. It depends on your preferences and and how much you want to spend.
[QUOTE=Jooks;2250292]There are various options for areas and types of places to stay. However, there is no best option. It depends on your preferences and and how much you want to spend.[/QUOTE]Exactly. One of my main wingmen prefers to get a $50 condo in Poblado/Lleras, while I prefer my $13 hotel downtown. Most of my time is spent downtown, so I don't want to be traveling back and forth when I can walk outside the door and already be there. Plus I'm really only in the room to sleep. I have only been to Poblado/Lleras 2 times.
Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI[/URL]
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?
I think I would like to stay in downtown, same logic as Mr Enternational. Are there lots of Casas in the downtown? Do love hotels exist in Medellin, if I want to meet a prepagado, but not at my place ?
So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night? That's a pity, since it's sunset at around 6 pm. What about in a busy shopping street for example? In Buenos Aires I remember walking until late in the evening.
By the way, if anyone happens to be going to the DR, Spain, Belgium, Germany or Hungary by any chance, I'm happy to advise!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250351]So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night? That's a pity, since it's sunset at around 6 pm.[/QUOTE]That would be a crazy rule. Means you would never go anywhere. The area scares people like SBT because there are some homeless people and drug addicts. They don't bother you though. One time I took my young cousin and his friend down to Medellin. On the first night we came in at 2 am. The next day they said they had walked back down to DeGrieff to fuck some more hoes at 4 am. They are still living and breathing and living normal lives.
I'm thinking of going to Medellin for vacation next year. I went to Sosua this year and San Jose the year before that. I do write trip reports, and appreciate the help I get on this site. Sorry, this is a real noob question. I would like to set up a facebook account to meet girls ahead of time in Medellin. But I have never done facebook before. I don't even have a legit facebook account for myself. I think I can figure out the part about setting up an alias e-mail and opening the account. My question is if I post photos of myself, will my friends and family members be directed to my monger account because facebook has facial recognition and tags me? Do I need to take any precautions to keep anyone I know from figuring out I have a facebook page dedicated to trying to meet girls in a foreign country? Thanks.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2250010]Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.[/QUOTE]1. Casas, salas de citas. Do not have signs, they look like any nondescript office or apartment. 2. Evenings are the worst time to visit them. Late morning or early afternoon. 3. Gems are not typically found in the well-known, higher profile casas like Energy. They are high volume girls, typically "operadas" (surgically remastered, robotic chicas) Patience, walking shoes, and dig a little deeper. 4. Yes its a spanish speaking society, any travelog book at your local library will say so.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2250372]I'm thinking of going to Medellin for vacation next year. I went to Sosua this year and San Jose the year before that. I do write trip reports, and appreciate the help I get on this site. Sorry, this is a real noob question. I would like to set up a facebook account to meet girls ahead of time in Medellin. But I have never done facebook before. I don't even have a legit facebook account for myself. I think I can figure out the part about setting up an alias e-mail and opening the account. My question is if I post photos of myself, will my friends and family members be directed to my monger account because facebook has facial recognition and tags me? Do I need to take any precautions to keep anyone I know from figuring out I have a facebook page dedicated to trying to meet girls in a foreign country? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2250396]If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.[/QUOTE]OK, sounds like I have nothing to worry about, then. Thanks very much. I guess I overestimated facebook's technology. I do not consider my self an overly paranoid person. Just had the wrong idea about facebook! I'm pretty sure I'll go to Medellin for my next trip. Many months away from now. I studied Spanish for 3 months on the computer for my recent trip to Dominican Republic. Got the basics down. I plan to put in more study time throughout the year to up my skills for Colombia!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250351]Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI[/URL]
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?
I think I would like to stay in downtown, same logic as Mr Enternational. Are there lots of Casas in the downtown? Do love hotels exist in Medellin, if I want to meet a prepagado, but not at my place ?
So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night?[/QUOTE]That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2250429]That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.[/QUOTE]Thanks again for your help! I can see a small section between Cra 53 and 54 on Calle 51, but this ends at the end of the block. I don't see any other street action there. Calle 53 (Avenida De Grieff) seems to be a large Boulevard alongside a park, or am I doing something wrong?
Would you say that the Medellin RLD is safer than the one in Bogota? It certainly looks less seedy and it's just on the doorstep of the downtown and an area full of shops/cafes etc.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2250429]That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.[/QUOTE]Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.
You did not exaggerate very much. Now, consider this. The 30 K cost is only slightly less than what the casas charge. It's fun to change it up every once in a while, but be sensible and only do it every once in a while.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250440]Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250440]Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society [/QUOTE]Doesn't hurt to have a look! Would you say this one at 5.44 sitting on the blue stool looks too bad, to me she looks very presentable and sexy as hell!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc[/URL]
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250453]Doesn't hurt to have a look! Would you say this one at 5.44 sitting on the blue stool looks too bad, to me she looks very presentable and sexy as hell!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc[/URL][/QUOTE]That video is from 2008. Youtubers keep stealing these videos and posting as new.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250440]Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.[/QUOTE]Wow. Incredibly judgmental of the girls as well as their clients hahaha. We all have our good and bad days I suppose.
Perhaps if one were to interview an objective sample "those street girls" some of your presumptions may be true. However, I can tell you that I have spoken to many girls on the streets in Medellin. Avoiding glue sniffers and anyone who looks as if they may have missed a shower on that day, the majority I have spoken to for more than 30 seconds were surprisingly friendly and sharp.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2250429]That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For the most part. If you are new to an area, the people who hang out there every day will notice you immediately. If you look like a gringo or a tourist, they will assume you have more money in your pocket than anyone else on the block. Especially if you are walking back and forth rubbernecking. IF you do choose to go to an area like that, I suggest taking a seat and plant yourself somewhere in the middle for an hour and you can relax assess and take in the show much more discretely and safely. IMHO a very entertaining experience.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2250351]Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI[/URL]
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?.[/QUOTE]I didn't watch the whole video, but it begins at the corner behind Iglesia de la Veracruz. Calle 51 at Carrera 53, I believe.
Downtown is a large area. However, every place you want to go is within walking distance. If you don't want to stay downtown, pick a spot in Laureles close to a metro station. You can be downtown in under 10 minutes for under $1.
Most of the casas are downtown, several blocks east and a few blocks north of where the video begins. Walking downtown at night is optional. I did it 3 times a week for a few months without anyone bothering me. However, there were streets I avoided after 8 pm. After that, most of the shopping places are closed or closing.
Most of the streetwalkers are reasonably safe with regards to pimps. If you're looking for curvier ones, try the area around Calle 53 and Carrera 54.
There are plenty of love motels in Colombia. Prices range from about 15 k to 100 k. 15 k gets a bed and a shower. 100 k gets jacuzzi, stripper pole, love chair, sound system, great shower and every accessory you can think of available for a price. They are all over the city, with several downtown.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2246637]Dear all,I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?[/QUOTE]Ok I am here so I can respond my questions, to the benefit of others who are interested to this.
THERE IS a small shop at MDE airport, open 24/24 (so the salesgirl told me), right in front of Juan Valdez at 2nd floor (1st floor with European numbering). They sell also SIM cards and do recargas, but it's not their line of business (not even advertised with a sign).
At 11 pm, I bought a TIGO prepaid SIM card, with 4 G LTE, and I added a data plan for 1 GB 1 week, for only 16 k. There must be some problem, because it connects and works, but since yesterday my MIFI connects only to Edge and with few kbps data speed. Unusable nearly. Today I go to buy a Claro in an official sales point.
About IMEI registration, no issues at all. My devices are all working. The GSM phone was succeffully registered online, the MIFI comes from my operator and works (well, I hope the EDGE problem is not due to this).
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250388]1. Casas, salas de citas. Do not have signs, they look like any nondescript office or apartment. 2. Evenings are the worst time to visit them. Late morning or early afternoon. 3. Gems are not typically found in the well-known, higher profile casas like Energy. They are high volume girls, typically "operadas" (surgically remastered, robotic chicas) Patience, walking shoes, and dig a little deeper. 4. Yes its a spanish speaking society, any travelog book at your local library will say so.[/QUOTE]Oh, well, maybe next time (if).
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250440]Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.[/QUOTE]The Tall Man has over 20 years mongering in all parts of the world, I have enjoyed the very high end clubs in europe and russia and guess what? Over the past year plus I have spent considerable time in centro and have found a few real gems that are humble, fun and who rock my world.
JMHO!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2250629]Wow. Incredibly judgmental of the girls as well as their clients hahaha. We all have our good and bad days I suppose.
Perhaps if one were to interview an objective sample "those street girls" some of your presumptions may be true. However, I can tell you that I have spoken to many girls on the streets in Medellin. Avoiding glue sniffers and anyone who looks as if they may have missed a shower on that day, the majority I have spoken to for more than 30 seconds were surprisingly friendly and sharp.[/QUOTE]Forgive me, I'm truly fond of all the people and culture of Antioquia and Colombia. Also, I am compassionate towards people in all circumstances. I stand scolded. However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250749]However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.[/QUOTE]That would depend on the newcomer wouldn't it? Like I said before, it was great for my 23 year old cousin and his best friend their first time. I also took to it like a fish to water and don't want to stay in another place.
If you have never been out of your city, never been around other people, a rich guy who is uncomfortable around poor people and/or street shit, do not speak the language etc, then as with the hobby itself YMMV. But I defintely would not tell people to stay away from downtown if they are new. You do not know what kind of experiences they have had and what they are comfortable with. Hell, if you sent me to the Mansion when I was new I would have been bored to death. There is no one size fits all.
I agree 100%. It absolutely depends on the newcomer. It also depends on what kind of experience is wanted. Stepping out of our comfort zone to deal with people on equal terms is not for everybody, and neither is bunking with a bunch of gringos and sharing the house girls in between trips to Juan Valdez cafe. There is no wrong or right way to go. It's all about finding what makes you happy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2250769]That would depend on the newcomer wouldn't it? Like I said before, it was great for my 23 year old cousin and his best friend their first time. I also took to it like a fish to water and don't want to stay in another place.
If you have never been out of your city, never been around other people, a rich guy who is uncomfortable around poor people and/or street shit, do not speak the language etc, then as with the hobby itself YMMV. But I defintely would not tell people to stay away from downtown if they are new. You do not know what kind of experiences they have had and what they are comfortable with. Hell, if you sent me to the Mansion when I was new I would have been bored to death. There is no one size fits all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2250809]I agree 100%. It absolutely depends on the newcomer. It also depends on what kind of experience is wanted. Stepping out of our comfort zone to deal with people on equal terms is not for everybody, and neither is bunking with a bunch of gringos and sharing the house girls in between trips to Juan Valdez cafe. There is no wrong or right way to go. It's all about finding what makes you happy.[/QUOTE]Agree. In my case I am comfortable with a lot of places that many others are not. No problem with the centro casas and strip clubs (at least the 3 or 4 I've been to). But I never quite got comfortable with partaking in the downtown street scene. I walked it, and looked. Saw some I could have been interested in. But was also aware of too many things that could go badly. And I also agree with a previous poster that from one street to the next things can feel very very different. There are streets that are scary under the bright sun at noon. There are others less than 2 blocks away that I have walked at night and felt reasonably safe. Probably just me. But nothing comparable to the Santa Fe zona de tolerencia in Bogota, where I basically felt safe. That is a smaller area, but basically dedicated to sex. So totally different than the downtown parts of Medellin. And my bet would be that centro Medellin at night. Especially after Metro shuts down. Is way more dangerous. In a zombie world sort of sense.
Hey guys,
I'm visiting Medellin during thanksgiving weekend. Anyone else going going there next week?
If anyone wants to grab some beer or hit up a bar / club let me know.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2250396]If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.[/QUOTE]Facebook also connects you if you have two accounts and look at them both from the same IP. That's the simplest way. Then they post pics of "people you may know" back and forth since they know that if there are two FB accounts at the same internet address (and computer) then logically they will know each other. So as far as I know the only way to keep them totally separate would be to never use the same computer and IP. And depending how sophisticated their algorithm is probably never checking in at the same time in the same area even. So no need for them to use facial recognition. Way way simpler than that. If they have any desire to chase that info. In my case they know, I'm sure. They routinely post pics of friends from one account on my other one suggesting that I might know them. I finally did end up with 3 people I believe in common on my 2 FB accounts. I've checked with friends to see if they get random friend suggestions from my "other" FB account, and as far as I know this has not happened. But I don't want it to. That's for sure. One is for family, and old friends. The other I use mostly when travelling. So the hundred or so younger lady friends I have on my travel FB don't mix that well with my family, children, grandchildren, etc. At least I hope they don't get mixed. So far no disasters. But it's high risk to have 2 accounts if you have any sort of dual lifestyle you don't want mixed together.
Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.
Hey guys, I am visiting Medellin next weekend and wanted to see if anyone else from here is going there next week.
I am down to meet for couple of drinks and then maybe hit up a bar / club or something.
Let me know. Hope everyone have a great thanksgiving.
[QUOTE=Landedflush;2250894]Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.[/QUOTE]Thank god you didn't go with see. You're right, the last thing you want is to get into a physical altercation with a hooker in a foreign country. That's a situation that could rapidly go south for you if the police or locals get involved and I guarantee you they'll be more inclined to believe her side of the story. I've seen internet videos of Latin American mobs burning suspected thieves alive. Not saying that'll happen in Medellin but it's not worth risking over some cheap pussy.
Two cardinal rules that'll serve you well when mongering:
1. Never pay in advance if you can help it.
2. Always negotiate everything beforehand.
Pretty much every bad experience I've had can be traced to violating either of these rules. Think of how your experience would have played out if you kept your money to the end--as soon as she started to deadfish or demand extras you could have just kicked her to the curb or walked off and all you'd be out is the hotel fee. A girl who already has your money generally has little incentive to perform well, especially if they don't think you'll repeat.
The second rule is another obvious one that I've seen a number of mongers break. They always say they like to "go with the flow" and pretend this hot woman is really into them and are no doubt hoping they're getting laid for free. Hell, I've made this mistake too. I met a fine chica on Tinder who was really flirty and seemed to be genuinely into me. After a long conversation she agreed to meet me later that day. Still no mention of any money changing hands, but doubts began to creep into my mind so eventually I asked what she wanted in exchange for meeting. After some hemming and hawing she finally said she wanted $200. I counter offered my usual (150,000 pesos) and she got all huffy and refused. Just like that, illusion shattered. But better she get pissed while still far away and behind a chat screen than when in my face in my apartment.
[QUOTE=Talon;2251126]Thank god you didn't go with see. You're right, the last thing you want is to get into a physical altercation with a hooker in a foreign country. That's a situation that could rapidly go south for you if the police or locals get involved and I guarantee you they'll be more inclined to believe her side of the story. I've seen internet videos of Latin American mobs burning suspected thieves alive. Not saying that'll happen in Medellin but it's not worth risking over some cheap pussy.
Two cardinal rules that'll serve you well when mongering:
1. Never pay in advance if you can help it..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, man. I like the idea of only paying after. I have several points to add:
1. If you want to pay after and she refuses. Sometimes if you can get thru that BS quickly enough and walk out of the room. You can cancel the room and get a refund! I've done that before. Of course when talking to the hotel clerk you should tell her that the puta is a lot of problems and basically blame her for everything.
2. I have an idea of telling the puta beforehand. In the street. That you only pay after sex and asking her if that is OK. If not, moving on to the next one.
3. Some putas are legit but have a firm policy of demanding payment upfront. So you might end up having to walk out a lot and blasting away a considerable amount in hotel fees. 31000 COP is $7 now. That can add up if you walk on a lot of putas. And also you might end up blowing away some number of legit putas who just happen to have the payment-upfront policy. Do you have some comment on this point?
Note to newbies. The place is extremely difficult to find from the street. I had to ask for directions and walked past the place twice before finding it.
After hitting the buzzer, the door unlocked. I went in. An older woman asked me whether I wanted 30 minutes or an hour. I said 1 hour. She said 150000. I was brought into a small waiting area with a few couches and given a beer. There were about 20 girls that were brought in one by one wearing a thin robe over bra and panties. Each opened her robe, did a quick twirl, said her name and her number, gave obligatory smile, and then walked out. Each girl was in front of me for maybe 5 seconds, so it is impossible to remember who is who. This whole setup works when you spot one chick that is your type and immediately choose her instead of waiting to see who else is in line.
Anyways, all the girls I would consider around an 8. Attractive, but I wouldn't do backflips over any of them. The one thing I remember thinking is that all of the girls had magnificent rear ends that were very proportional to their body type. The only differences were breast size and stuff like height, hair color, and skin tone. There were no girls with dark brown complexion, FWIW.
I remember someone posted a tip that the girls first in line are probably the most eager so I picked one of the hottest girls I could remember that was earlier in line. The older woman brought her (chica #1) back in, I was asked to pay then went to the room. As some have said, the room is very dark. The bed is very hard. I thought to myself that 150000 is cheap AF price to bang a solid 8, so I decided to get another girl (chica #2) and get the party started.
I take a shower while chica #2 was being called to the room. I didn't need a shower but wanted to make sure the chicas knew I was fresh and clean. I figured it would make it more likely that they would offer BBBJ. After I got out of the shower, I laid down on the bed and did my standard 2 girl routine. I had one girl give me a handjob while the other girl did a show strip tease. That was dangerous cause I nearly blew my load when chica #2 turned around and pulled down her panties while chica #1 was oiling up my cock and balls. After chica #2 was naked, the girls switched places and did the same routine again.
So here is where things started going south. Chica #2 gave a terrible hand job. I do not understand how a girl can work in the sex industry and not know how to give a decent handjob. What the hell? This isn't rocket science. I eventually asked chica #1 to explain to chica #2 how to give a handjob. That's so sad.
Complaint 2) The place is called energy massage. Massage is in the name. You would think that anyone who works at a massage place would know how to give a massage or would at least make an effort to give a massage. Not today. These girls just smeared some oil on my back and legs and randomly pushed it around. Completely uncoordinated. Neither therapeutic nor sensual. What the hell!
So, I turn over and ask for a BBBJ. Chica #2 said no. Chica #1 said she would BBBJ for 100000 COP. I knew she was over-charging from RTFF, but I cannot stand CBJs. I negotiated Chica #1 down to 70000 and went with it. Chica #1 starts with the BBBJ. Her mouth felt good but she was squeezing my cock with her hand like she was trying to choke the life out of my cock. What the hell? I physically removed her hand and placed it on my thigh. She immediately resumes choking my cock with the other hand. So I moved her other hand as well and told her not to use her hands. I start to lose my hard-on after all this BS so I ask her to hop on top and try riding. I finally have to give her credit. Chica #1 had a nice technique. It was nowhere near the best cowgirl I've had, but was enough to do the trick.
I wouldn't and didn't go back.
The only suggestion is to be as specific as you can in.
Ask in advance about what you want. "Que servicios?" is what you want to ask. Oral, oral con condom, oral sin condom etc. This is at least a start. These are all terms used in the escort ads on Prepagos. Don't be embarrassed to be specific
[QUOTE=Landedflush;2250894]Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.[/QUOTE]
Day 2 - La Isla.
IMO, very, very beautiful women there. 300000 COP to take them to a room. I know from reading the thread that there are some cheaper alternatives. I will try those on the next visit. Doing the math, I thought it was worth 300 K to test drive the merch before investing time, money, and energy for a party outside the club. Not sure how much was luck, but I quickly settled on the perfect girl very quickly.
After getting into the club, I saw a blond girl with a great body. Big (fake) tits, small waist, huge ass. I immediately had her come sit with me just to have some company for the price of a drink. I put my arm around her and watched the talent on stage. As this girl was next to me, I realized her face was not very pretty. I scanned around the room and laid eyes on three girls standing and talking about 10 feet from me. One was young and sexy AF so I sent away the butterface and asked the sexy morena to come over.
She got close. She was even sexier up close. Fantastic body. Sexy AF. We had a drink and I asked her about BBBJ. She said yes. I decided to take her to the back and she gave me a BBBJ that was excellent. Just excellent. Sloppy and sensual. Like she was born to suck dick and lick balls. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. I would have guessed 20 but who knows. And who cares. I wanted to know what her pussy felt like so I suited up and fucked her missionary for a little while. Tight pussy but her mouth was way, way better. I switched back to BBBJ. I was trying to avoid blowing my load this night but having a beautiful 18 yo nursing at my cock like this, it seemed almost wrong to deny her milk. I asked if I could cum in her mouth. She said yes. So I let her mouth finish me off.
Day 4 - BBBJRIMTC at my apartment.
I had the same girl from Isla come over to my apartment. Multiple positions, BBBJ and rimming to completion was on the menu. Let me say, there are some chicks that are shy about rimjobs and there are some chicks that give it 120%. This girl was definitely the latter. At one point, I looked down while she was rimming and saw her staring directly at me. Wow. This girl is truly special. I blew a real nice nut while she was massaging my prostate with her tongue.
While getting ready to go she got busy trying to set me up with other girls. (BTW, I found out that referrals is a good way to get connected to quality girls). I told her I definitely wanted to have a threesome with two girls and wanted to see her again.
Day 5 - Threesome at my apartment.
Now, this morena was hot. But the next day she sent me a picture of a girl that was three times hotter than she was and asked me if I still wanted to do a threesome. I said "Hell yeah! Turns out that the girl in the pic had a few nice qualities that I couldn't tell from the photos:
1) she had huge tits, yay!
2) she was as into rimming as the morena, double yay!
When they arrived, we chatted and had some drinks. The 18 yo looked like she was blasted. The hot one with big tits seemed very down to earth. Standard MO. I had one of the girls oil up my cock and balls while the other did a sexy strip. Then had them switch places and do the same thing again. Then had one of the girls do BBBJ while the other got to work on the rimjob. Then had them switch and repeat. After I couldn't take it anymore, I emptied my balls.
Later I took the two of them out to eat. While we were out a waiter came up to me and said he could introduce me to girls that were hotter than the two I was with. Damn. Wish I had more time there to see if he was telling the truth.
Good times overall! Looking forward to next trip.
Anyone have some recommendations for places to stay in el centro / prado? Looking for apartments that are chica friendly with no chica fees. Preferably under 150 k a night.
For those of you that are also looking for one. I had a horrible experience at hotel Fernando plaza. They would charge 200 k for each guest! Don't know if that is the norm but seems a bit pricey for 1 guest.
[QUOTE=Landedflush;2250894]Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.[/QUOTE]I think I would've asked how much for a blowjob and / or asked for just a blowjob for the money paid and cut my losses. Not sure if I could've even gone thru with the act with an attitude like that. This situation was probably an exception of what usually happens though (I would assume). But yea as others said, next time I would tel them straight up that you would pay after the act unless you see some sort of connection which in that case I doubt she would demand the money upfront. Once that's established, than you have full control of the $ and if she was to have any ridiculous demands / upcharges then just don't pay her and leave.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2250749]Forgive me, I'm truly fond of all the people and culture of Antioquia and Colombia. Also, I am compassionate towards people in all circumstances. I stand scolded. However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.[/QUOTE]It depends on the newcomer. I took a few first timers around El Centro and they thought they were in heaven. I took others to El Centro and they couldn't wait to get out of there.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2251212]Note to newbies. The place is extremely difficult to find from the street. I had to ask for directions and walked past the place twice before finding it.
After hitting the buzzer, the door unlocked. I went in. An older woman asked me whether I wanted 30 minutes or an hour. I said 1 hour. She said 150000. I was brought into a small waiting area with a few couches and given a beer. There were about 20 girls that were brought in one by one wearing a thin robe over bra and panties. Each opened her robe, did a quick twirl, said her name and her number, gave obligatory smile, and then walked out. Each girl was in front of me for maybe 5 seconds, so it is impossible to remember who is who. This whole setup works when you spot one chick that is your type and immediately choose her instead of waiting to see who else is in line.
Anyways, all the girls I would consider around an 8. Attractive, but I wouldn't do backflips over any of them. The one thing I remember thinking is that all of the girls had magnificent rear ends that were very proportional to their body type. The only differences were breast size and stuff like height, hair color, and skin tone. There were no girls with dark brown complexion, FWIW..[/QUOTE]If you pull up the address on Google maps and go to street view, you'll have no difficulty finding Energy. I try to do that with every place before heading out. Saves a lot of confusion.
In the times I went to Energy, I almost always saw at least one dark skin girl. My best experience there was with one. It ranked as best experience in any casa and made it into my top 10 of all mongering experiences.
The girls first in line are the girls who got to the line first. Nothing more. They might be eager for a session, but only because nobody ever picks them. In other words, there's probably a good reason why they're available. I found the best strategy is to pay attention to the girl's face. Her attitude is what makes the difference. I'll take a 6 or 7 that wants to rock my world over a 9 who just wants to get paid.
The beds are hard, because they are massage tables. You must have got the wrong room, because every room I've been in there had plenty of natural light. If you're looking for a massage, go to an actual massage place. Any place with a price for sex listed on the website isn't a massage place.
A trio, which is much different from a threesome, is what you described. Doing a trio with 2 unknowns is unlikely to turn out good. They already know you're making decisions with the little head, so they have the upper hand. The key is finding 2 girls who are great solo, who also get along great.
If you get the right girl, Energy is great.
[QUOTE=Landedflush;2251146]... 3. Some putas are legit but have a firm policy of demanding payment upfront. So you might end up having to walk out a lot and blasting away a considerable amount in hotel fees. 31000 COP is $7 now. That can add up if you walk on a lot of putas. [/QUOTE]Right now, the exchange rate is 3198 to $1. That equals $9.70 for 3100. Maybe you meant to type 2100, which is almost $7.
[QUOTE=Landedflush;2250894] Bad experience in La Mayorista area [/QUOTE]I was wondering, where did you meet her, in a club or was she a streetwalker, or something else?
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2251583]I was wondering, where did you meet her, in a club or was she a streetwalker, or something else?[/QUOTE]La Mayorista is basically one block. The girls are posted up against the buildings. The block is lined with bars, restaurants, hotels and for some reason. One casino. They are all independents. You negotiate with them directly and then take them to one of the hotels. This area is frequented by Colombian men, not gringos. You will see very few gringos there if any. Prices are less than half of Park Lleras. Area safe with constant police presence posted up on the block. It's a very fun experience, especially if you come with a few friends. But yes, there is a higher risk of a bad experience like the one I had.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2251547]Right now, the exchange rate is 3198 to $1. That equals $9.70 for 3100. Maybe you meant to type 2100, which is almost $7.[/QUOTE]You're right, I meant to type 22000 COP which is the standard hotel fee there for half an hour.
I got a bunch of PMs about the cost for my apartment visits. I paid 350 K per girl per visit.
Where I live, a 9 or 10 wouldn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on you for $110. So for me this was a amazing deal. The chicas seemed happy as well. Great. That's what I call a win-win negotiation!
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2251356]Day 2 - La Isla.
IMO, very, very beautiful women there. 300000 COP to take them to a room. I know from reading the thread that there are some cheaper alternatives. I will try those on the next visit. Doing the math, I thought it was worth 300 K to test drive the merch before investing time, money, and energy for a party outside the club. Not sure how much was luck, but I quickly settled on the perfect girl very quickly.
After getting into the club, I saw a blond girl with a great body. Big (fake) tits, small waist, huge ass. I immediately had her come sit with me just to have some company for the price of a drink. I put my arm around her and watched the talent on stage. As this girl was next to me, I realized her face was not very pretty. I scanned around the room and laid eyes on three girls standing and talking about 10 feet from me. One was young and sexy AF so I sent away the butterface and asked the sexy morena to come over...[/QUOTE]