Living Wage / FMLA more good than harm?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2856268]You mentioned wellness when people make more money. I said no that is fantasyland. [/QUOTE]No you'd be wrong, again. But I am saying, having the money to pay for healthcare (or insurance), for those medical emergencies, will drastically improve your well being. Having the money to afford basic groceries, medicine, necessities of life...etc, will improve your well being...duh!
Health care bills are a large reason Americans go into debt, poverty, unemployment and worse. I think FMLA does more good than harm, as would a living wage/salary.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2856268]I know a high amount of people who make good money that have and frequently use FMLA. This indicates they are either not well (when you asserted they will be) and or abuse the system. (I know FMLA can be used for family members as well, but the majority of people I know have it for themselves and not because family members are sickly.) [/QUOTE]I just have to laugh at people who [b]"know"[/b] what the [b]"majority of people"[/b] do (and think) and know that majority who abuse the system, but then don't provide said evidence. Reminds me of the claims of wide spread election voter fraud and we all know how that ended.
But like many social/business programs that benefit many Americans, yes others choose to abuse it. FMLA is in place for [b]employees who qualify[/b]. You talk like it's something that is given out on a whim. If they choose to abuse the system, that's on them.
I never asserted (or assumed) anything. The simple fact is, when you called, the employee's fight for a living wage/salary, "fantasyland" and then use another "fantasyland" program/Act (until it wasn't), that employees fought for from 1984 to 1993, that did nothing to bolster your argument. At best it was naive on your part, at worse it was...{well just fill in the blank}.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2856268]It seems you have not been reading at all (not even your own questions). What slaves started a civil war? Your question was what did slaves do to earn freedom. I said nothing. Then you say there was a civil war. Well I do not recall the slaves starting that nor the plantation owners saying your freedom has been well earned by you. So again the answer to your question is nothing.[/QUOTE] Right...so your revisionist edition of American History...your civil war, just began and was fought over a lost game of high-stakes poker? And I suppose in that same revisionist edition of American History, there were no slaves/black soldiers who fought in the civil war?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2855943]In the USA they did not do anything to earn freedom...[b]If not for those people called abolitionists,[/b] the USA would still be as other countries in the world that still have slavery.[/QUOTE]A reminder of your non sequitur argument. Fact: Abolitionists where comprised of black, white and indigenous peoples.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2856268]Then you say you don't know shit from apple butter because I ate raisins last night. Nothing at all related to the question you asked. [/QUOTE]Raisin shit from apple butter (or from whatever crap your trying to say), is just what you might get when you subscribe to revisionist history. But I'm not interested in your bowel movements, so you can keep that to yourself. Unless, of course you consider having shit for brains a virtue?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2855943] Stay on track. [/QUOTE]If you insist! Once again, I am reminded of one of my fav fables, w/r to your [b]"marching...worn out pair of shoes",[/b] in The Wren & The Eagle fable: [i]"The wren did not fly at all, for she was carried on the eagle's back. The eagle is king, for he not only flew highest, but carried the wren on his back."[/i]
Full/Complete fable here: [URL]https://sacred-texts.com/etc/bnm/bnm23.htm[/URL] So there's no misunderstanding...you're the wren.
Working for free and the gaslighting of cultures...
Today, lots of people work for free. There are many reasons and benefits why people do it. But don't fool yourself, with false expectations when doing a job/work for free. Not everyone will always seek a monetary gain/benefit when doing a job/work.
I have done a fair amount of volunteer work in my life and enjoyed the experience, exposure and joy of helping others (or myself for that matter), when I could afford the time to do so, outside of work/family life. I think I'm a better person for it.
With regards to the other topic at hand, I see that much like [b]the sickening and disgusting gaslighting that often surrounds The Holocaust[/b] (and other cultures), the American history of slavery and Black History, is now experiencing similar attacks of lies, persecution, book-burning, book-banning and revisionism. Sad, but true and that's where we're at.
Same sentiment applies...
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2856411][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2856268]Of course it was not good for the people that had to endure it, but it sure as hell worked out for their descendants.[/QUOTE]Great conversation so far. Please explain this. [/QUOTE] I explained it thusly:
[QUOTE=Spidy;2856245]That's mighty big of you to say. How does the quote/saying go again, [b]"...he who stands on the backs of giants..."[/b] [/QUOTE]Well...this was applied to a different smug comment from Mr E, but the same sentiment is just as applicable.