Pattaya Reports

My gogo girl was one that I met a week ago (I don't want to mention which bar or her number/name or anything because she was breaking the rules by seeing me outside of office hours. I know this is not uncommon, but still). She arrived at 6:20, and we spent 2 delightful hours nuzzling, kissing, groping and, yes, copulating.

About half way through this, she pulls back a little, looks me in the eye and says 'I lub you'. Oh crap. I look at her with a blank but slightly puzzled look on my face. I've been with this girl three times now, known her for a week, and she drops the Lub bomb on me now? Sensing this, her expression changes to one that says 'Too soon?' I smile, kiss her, and go on with the love making. Afterwards, as I dismiss her from my presence, she says it again 'I lub you tilak.' Oh crap, please stop saying that! I don't need this emotional baggage.

So I shower long and hard, trying to wash the sound of that sentence out of my mind. I had lots of crazy sex to engage in - I couldn't do that with this sentence ringing in my head. But I couldn't shake the sight of her lowered chin, puppy-dog eyes, trembling voice saying 'I lub you.' Shit.

Eight O'Clock, ran over to the Lebanese restaurant on second road, had some Hummus and bread, and scampered over to Walking Street. Made a bee line for Happy Agogo and their 59B draft beer - guzzled two of those things down, washing away some of the emotional distress I was under. Watched the jiggling bums and shaking legs is cathartic.

I spy three beautiful girls, each with round, luscious asses. The first girl, #46, has what is in my opinion a pretty nice ass. It's just a little celluliscous, but delectable nonetheless. But she's got attitude - she dances very slowly, avoids eye contact and seems generally pissed off. But she's pretty, pretty, pretty, that's for sure. The second, #61, is much more bouncy. She has braces, big hair, B-cups, petite-yet-prominent booty. Nice to look at, probably great in bed. And third is #71 who has the most unusual figure - she is skinny, small b-cups, skinny legs, and an ass that is just...well...bubbly. It's weird, it's like the butt cheeks just hang out there, well shaped and everything, but just disproportionate to the rest of her body. The downside is that her face is rather hard - her cheeks (facial, that is) are depressed a little, causing her lips to protrude a little, giving her a slightly unapproachable look. So there we have it - three nice asses, none of which are Kumbu-worthy tonight.

So I pay up, trot over to Roxy to pick up Om from the previous night, but sadly she has already been BFed. Wow, that was early - Roxy opens at 9pm and at 9:15 she was gone. Popular girl. Anyway, I drift back down walking street and decide to drop into Baby Dolls. The waitresses here are really cool - I have a great rapport with them. We joke around, yak-yak a lot, and they are generally very fun to be with. So I go in, get another beer, and then look around as the waitresses ply me with kind words, massages, and some small Thai snacks that they are all sharing. I see two potentials - #51 and #55. But I am not buzzed enough yet to drop the 'I lub you' thing yet, so I order a second beer and the girls all look at me. A second beer? This guy must be serious...I am suddenly a mark.

After 10 minutes, #55 comes over and sits her pretty self next to me. She is small, very slight, with a pretty face and a staggering figure. Shit, female proportions are defined by this girl - perfect sized breasts for her body, teensy little waist, round hips, pert butt, nice legs, damn, she has it all. But 3 minutes into our talking the DJ announces the change in dance sessions and she has to go dance. Ok, that would give me a chance to inspect her figure more fully.

So she gets on stage and comes over and starts to dance right in front of me. the thing is that dancing right in front of me meant that she was also dancing right infront of the three guys to my left. Guy #1 was an old German dude on his fourth beer (just getting started for a German); guy #2 was a Steve Buscemi lookalike - he had those brown teeth, stringy hair, skinny as hell, sunken eyes, poorly shaved chin; and Guy #3 was well-dressed white guy playing on his phone sending text after text without looking up. He's wearing a formal shirt, long sleeved, with dark blue slacks and formal shoes. He has a coke/Whisky in front of him from which he has not had even a single sip. He was the pro amongst us, I could tell.

Girl #55 is dancing one sexy dance, twisting hips, flicking her hair, mmm, groovy. Guy#1 shifts in his chair and mutters something to himself in German. I see Steve Buscemi chuckle and wipe the spit from the edge of his mouth. And Guy#3, Mr. Pro, keeps hacking away at his qwerty keyboard, seeming not to notice the girl at all.

The girl is clearly working all four of us. She positioned herself such that no other girl could come close to us, and she was working the line of guys very carefully. She would look at me a little, then give me a very, very subtle smile from one side of her mouth. This would indicate to me that *I* am the one she really likes, but it would be so subtle that the other three guys could not see it. She then would move her primary gaze over to German Guy, and do the same with him. The Steve got his 2 minutes of attention, and then Mr.Pro got it too, despite his seeming lack of interest. Then it was back to me. This girl was good.

So the waitress comes over and starts to tease me.
Waitress: You like pretty lady, no?
Me: Yup, she sure is pretty.
Waitress: She like you, I can tell.
Me: How can you tell?
Waitress: She came to you to talk - she never do that.
Me: Sure.
waitress: Leally, she never do like that with other cutummer (customer).
Me: Ok.
waitress: You want buy lady dink?
Me: when she is done, I am enjoying myself right now.

10 minutes later, Mr.Pro snaps his head up and motions the mama san over with great urgency. Mama san runs over, pushing aside two waitresses in the process. Mr.Pro cracks out some orders, and mama san turns to girl #55 and orders her over to Mr.Pro. What? I have dibs on her, and Mr. Pro bucked the line! Before I can get too upset, waitress explains that money talks. Mr.Pro is buying the girl a drink, which, it must be said, was something that I was asked to do and I declined. I no buy drink, she no sit with me. I knew that.

So the guy starts to chat her up, pulls her close and lays her small head on his chest, puts his arm around her and cuddles her like she belongs to him already. Meanwhile, I am hearing it from the troupe of waitresses: I let this one slip out of my hands; I waited too long; the rich white guy beat me to her; no problem, many beautiful ladies here, etc. They're cackling at me like a group of hyenas, and it was getting a little old. But one waitress comes over, put sher arm around me as if to console me and tells me to be patient. She starts to massage my forearm a little, gently whispering in my ear that all hope is not lost. Truth be told, I'm getting a little turned on by this waitress - if only she were 15 years, 50 pounds and three kids lighter. She says that this girl has had four customers buy her drinks already, but no BF. The waitress believes there will be no BF coming from Mr.Pro tonight - that was her professional opinion. I asked her how she knows that, and she just shrugged and said she knows. I was not so sure.

5 minutes pass and Mr.Pro orders some ping pong balls. You can buy ping pong balls in the amount of 1 for 20B, 5 for 100B, a small basket for 500B and a big basket for 1000B. He buys the big basket and without even thinking about it, he tosses the whole thing into the bath/shower show to the left. The girls scream and dive into the foamy water to retrieve the balls, spoiling their makeup and hair in the process. Why did Mr.Pro just do that? Makes little sense to me.

He then orders another basket of balls and summarily tosses that onto the dance floor, and the girls all scurry around screaming trying to pick up the balls. Again...Mr.Pro...why you do dat? He then orders the check-bin, pays up, gives #55 100B in tip, and leaves. Umm...what does baffled mean? I don't get what he thinks he just accomplished, other than blowing 2500B on nothing. Ok, so he comes back the next day and is treated like a king, but you can do that by spending 500B.

#55 watches him leave, and as soon as he is gone, she jumps up, runs over to me and puts her small head on my shoulder as if to say 'I really wanted you, not that ridiculously rich, handsome, well-dressed, moderately insane guy that just left'.

We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.

So we bust outta there, walk back to the hotel, and once on the bed, we start the small talk. She's 19 years old, weighs 41kg, stands a mere 5'1", and as I said before, stunningly proportionate. After 10 minutes of small talk I go shower, and when I get out I hear her screaming to me and she rushes into the bathroom and says:

#55: Baby, me have pompem.
Me: What's the problem baby?
#55: So solly, me have X-men.
Me: ...
#55: X-men, X-men, me so solly.
Me: Umm...
#55: But me ok outside, no pompem. But me have pompen with X-men.
Me: Wolverine? Dr. X? Alot of people have a problem with the last movie, but...
#55: ...?
Me: Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.

She grabs my hand and pulls me back into the bedroom...and behold! My bed, previously pristine white sheets, was now covered in red bloody splotches. Oh crap. I mean, Oh period. Ok, so it's her period, right, and I have BFed her, right, and what am I supposed to do with her now? No clue. I sure as hell am not boinking that thing now, and the BJ ain't worth my time or effort, so WTF?

So she is very apologetic, and she says that everything on the outside is fine, so I can play with that, and that if I give her 10 minutes she can mop up whatever is inside with a stick tampon so there will be no visible effect of the period, so everything will be ok. Ok?

No, not ok. I tell her it is time for her to go. She protests, saying mama san will be angry. I tell her that I will not tell mama san if she does not, and that I am not angry (disappointed, but not angry), so let's just call it quits and she can leave. She asks for some money, and I resist laughing, but tell her that money is only for those that do things. And with a period, she should not be working, so no, no money. She understood. She was not happy, but did not protest beyond sticking her lips out to pout.

Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?

Anyway, she left, and I was left with a bloody bed and a wasted night. I couldn't go out and bring another girl back to this bloody mess, and I don't like ST hotels, so I decided to call it a night and went to sleep. As I got into bed, carefully avoiding the bloody sections, I decided to flick through the channels looking for the Arsenal game, and lo and behold, it was on tv, and only 5 minutes into the game. Great, I pulled out a Heineken from the minibar and I watched a laboring Arsenal beat a toothless Liverpool 1-0, while United and Chelsea both dropped points. All of a sudden, my night was rocking!

Hey there .. Good perspective, thanks for posting. I also get no thrill from throwing money away, and in my experience the more money is involved, the worse the service and experience becomes. (This isn't an absolute rule, of course.)

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t. I was told so by a friend of mine who used to go every year in the past 4 ys[/QUOTE]

Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]First, there is a hell of an urban legend according to which after they get off from work about 3 am girls from go-gos who where not chosen by farang and stayed on the floor until closing time would be inclined to go hotel with one of customer waiting for them outside bar.[/QUOTE]

Once I flirted with a waitress from the gogo opposite Kitten Club in Soi Pattayaland. At closing time I poked my head in again and ran into her. Asked her to come with me and she nodded, asked how much and it was "up to me", asked again and she said as long as it's not less than 1000. Very pleasant night ensued. And I can't go with an ugly girl, she was damn nice. So it does happen, with luck. I think I gave her something like 1300 ..

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]By the way, barfine in Go-Gos like Shark and Tiger is 600 bath, and girls charge usually 1. 000/2. 000, which sounds like twice ordinary rate.[/QUOTE]

Sounds perfectly standard to me; many bars would try to push that higher.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]It was my first time there, but again my feeling is that good times with dolls who make you groove for peanuts are gone, if there ever were, and now business is sneaking deeply into Pattaya too, so that fun is becoming more expensive, girls are getting more comfortable with money-making and self-managing and, ultimately, sex is following rules of the games much as anywhere else more and more.[/QUOTE]

"If they ever were" indeed. There are cheaper places in the world, but they simply don't come with 5-star hotels, excellent international flight connections, international restaurants, good roads, cineplexes, upscale shopping centers, etc. Sex in Pattaya is incredibly cheap for a place which offers all of that. The only reason it is, is because it draws on a supply of girls from poor provinces, and because of a lot of competition. Business isn't "sneaking" into Pattaya, business *is* Pattaya and has been from day one. I think it's more that the standard of living in Thailand is rising across the board.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Given that I could never go there in December because my business is involved with Christmas, if I ever go back I may try late November rather than mid-January to see if the going is more laid back at the begin of the season and cute girls are more available.[/QUOTE]

Why on earth focus on the season? Come in June! Seriously :-)

[QUOTE=Kumbu]...Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?..[/QUOTE]
menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.

You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)

[QUOTE=El Frances]Well.

1- It's still peak season so there is more tension on prices. I stayed there at the beginning of December and I saw the girl's attitude progressively changing as peak season was coming. At low season they are starving for customers.

2- In Thailand, as in some other places, what you pay is like a ticket allowing you to play. If you want the girl to be GFE you need to be BFE and gentleman with her. I've been always rewarded for flirting with them.

3- Prices are not the same anywhere: cheaper at Beach Road, then discos (late), then Bier bars and discos (early), then Gogos. In discos they are usually looking for LT and may not accept ST, at beach road and in gogos they often prefer ST.

4- As in any transaction, if you want to get cheap price (in particular during peak season) you often need to bear non-monetary transaction costs, search cost, time cost, etc.[/QUOTE]When I was there I was told that peak season starts Nov 1. I was also told hotel prices and other prices would double then. Could someone clarify during which times prices double and if it is better to go just before peak or is just after peak better?

[QUOTE=Rocksoff] Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans. [/QUOTE]

You can pretty much pull any girl from Beach road, even the best looking of them, for 500 ST. The older or less good looking ones will go for less, if one is inclined to be a cheap charlie. Depending on the time, and if they are even inclined to offer LT, then 1000 is the going rate for LT for a beach road girl, if it's anywhere near midnight.

I never paid anyone more than 500 for ST in Pattaya unless I was negotiating a premium service (like BBFS or Anal) and every one I went with was young and well above average looking. I had one real hottie start by asking for 800 and not be willing to go below 600, but I didn't take her because her attitude was that her shit didn't stink.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.

You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)[/QUOTE]

menses, yes of course, that must be it.

BJ, well, yes, but the blood was everywhere...didn't have the stomach for it at that point. Plus I had blown my wad earlier that evening, so I was not terribly desperate.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t....
Much to my surprise, I discover quite different rates once there,
[/QUOTE]

Those are the correct prices, SH - 500 short and 1,000 long time, maybe 600-800 for anal or bareback. I have to admit I have not paid 300 or 400 in a year, but it happened fairly often before that.

There are of course many new guys who have lots of money and know very little who pay more than is necessary, so the price is creeping up in the sense that if girls think you are inexperienced, insecure, or otherwise foolish, they will try to ask for more. And obviously go-gos have always been about double the price of the other options.

For sure you need never pay more than 500 on the Beach or from the vast majority of beer bars. I never pay more than 500 to the girl on Soi Six. I have to admit I have never taken a girl 'long time' as I don't like it, so I can't speak about that, but others consistently tell me it is 1,000 (or in rare cases even less).

However if you were looking for that rarity - the fairly fresh 18-21 year old cutie, then you may have to pay more, or look outside the tourist zones (and speak Thai at least somewhat). Mostly though, service is so bad with that type of girl there's little point.

The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.

Basically nowadays if you don't want to pay huge amounts, you have to be ready to be 'rejected' by some prostitutes once in a while - hardly a life shattering experience.

[QUOTE=Un Le70]

Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan.

1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?

2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?

UN LE70[/QUOTE]

While the idea sounds great, I think many people would not be up for it. Two problems (assuming you get over the practical/legal difficulties).

1. Lack of plausible deniability. Guys can at least pretend to go to Thailand for reasons other than PFP, with your boat this would not be the case. If it gets any media attention, even boarding it in a discreet manner may become difficult.

2. My budget would be $100-$150/day, and for that I'd expect 2-3 STs. However, I doubt you'd be able (or actually willing to) compete on price with Thailand or PI. In an enclosed environment, there would be strong pressure to push the prices up. If you fix the prices, they'll be high (and service bad, as girls would compete on numbers). If you don't fix them, there's every incentive to rip off the customer (since they're on the boat for one thing only, have limited choice and can't go anywhere).

Sexual Healing

I know what you say about the incessant disco noise in Pattaya, go to Hua Hin, a lot less disco, also a lot less girls and bars, but trust me you'll have a good time for sure, and within budget.

Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.

Hi

While I was there from 29/12/09 until the 23/01/10 I paid the following

FL beach Road 500ST + 100 (room)
BG 500ST +250BF
BG 1000LT + 300BF
Soi 6 700ST + 300BF/ROOM (6 different girls)
GG 1000LT + 600BF (baby dolls) (got this rate many times)
GG 1000LT + 300BF (after 0130am)(baby dolls)(got this rate many times)
GG 1500LT + 500BF (Mistys)

These figures do not include drinks for myself, Lady drinks, food or any gifts for the ladies.

I am happy with what I paid and the prices were fair.

Just think of trying to have the same fun back at home for these prices I doubt very much that you can.

[QUOTE=Gus69]
Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.[/QUOTE]

It can be dissapointing when you discover she is on the rag. But I maybe went even one step further and banged her knowingly. I also pulled her from Babydolls and just put a towel underneath her. The blood got soaked through and I was also charged 300B for the sheets. :)


[QUOTE=Kumbu]
We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.
[/QUOTE]
1000B BF at Babydolls on the weekends???? Can someone else confirm this. It's usually 600B for dancers, 700B for showgirls and 300B for them all after 0130.

[QUOTE=D Cups]Thanks, TL. I'll be in Pattaya Mar 8- 12 and can hardly wait! Curious, why is Misty's 500B more? Are the girls better? Did you see any really busty ones in your travels? (.) (.)[/QUOTE]


Yes there are busty ones some are real and some are fake. there is one in Baby Dolls with really big tits but she is not my thing. I like the small and pert ones with big nipples

The girl from Misty (i think she was #69) had shortish hair and a nice set of tits.
The fee was agreed with her and we just wait straight to the room.

Where as the Baby doll girl we had food and visited other places and we went out with her sister and her work friends.

[QUOTE=Opebo]The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.[/QUOTE]
I've not had any problems with a "how much you pay" girl, so long as she said yes when I offered 500. If she comes back with a higher number, I laugh and go on to the next girl. Clearly, the "how much you pay" gambit is an attempt to make hay off of folks who don't know the pricing structure in Pattaya, but many girls are perfectly fine with the market rate when that initial gambit doesn't result in a sucker. In fact, the best girl I went with on my entire trip last December did the "how much you pay" the first time I saw her. But I ended up having her come back to my place 4 days in a row for 500 ST. And she was a stellar, genuinely affectionate GFE performer.

If the girl has her periode why not take her anal. Would be a good possibility to convince her to try it. ;)

Regarding priceses in June. I wouldn't say that the prices for girls are lower in June. Nope, they are the same like in January. Hotel priceses are lower that is true.
Are there better selection in June than in January. I didn't had the feeling. I got the impression that in June many girls left Pattaya. The not so good looking once to their villages, the pretty ones to Singapore, HK, Dubai, Europe, etc.
I am not sure about that, of course. But, in November I say way more hotties than in June.

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