Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2167943]Quite likely. If anything, the Kasalong girls are on average better looking than Lolytas, allowing for the fact that I probably hardly notice the last good looking ones, naturally concentrating on those doable. After trying Amporn at Kasilong, on the way out I spotted a prettier girl (wasn't available originally). Line ups always vary of course and best girls may be busy. To really know the line up you would have to hang around for 30 minutes or so, perhaps longer. LOL Girls available should be mostly outside if is not too hot.

In Lolytas I only ever selected Anne in recent years (long gone now). Anne was a blonde "schoolgirl" with very hot ass, on display as she went up the stairs. First time I met her she was hiding behind other girls with her face looking down. I was undeterred to choose her. She turned out to be a pretty good GFE for FS, so never changed to another girl (and the others were not slim enough nor pretty enough). I did not care if her BBBJ was the best or not (hampered a bit by teeth braces).

In former times when I used to attend Dr. BJ, they seemed to have about 3 slim attractive girls. Now it is Wood bar I have not been recently.[/QUOTE]I remember her. A few winters ago, I would see her most nights with her head down as I walked by the shop. I could never get eye contact and finally gave up. One night I went to the little Aussie steak house across the alley from Loly's And noticed her standing outside the shop and again she ignored my presence. When I finished my meal and left for Soi 8, I felt a tap on her shoulder, and lo and behold, it was little Annie asking me if I was interested in her services. I readily agreed though she said it was BJ only, no extra services on tap. We went upstairs and had a luxurious BJ with a very sexy girl. Great memory. I never saw her there again and was told a farang had enticed her to move in with him somewhere in that neighborhood. As an aside, I think if you took away the blond hair, she might appear quite ordinary but she had tremendous sex appeal with that cute blond page boy look.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2168138]Some are certainly working till they can, I even had a 48 year old!. But most seem to fall off the grid after 30/32.

And while retiring in their village with their pvt ATM is ideal dream, I don't think even 5% girls manage to find customers like that. I wonder what most of them do specially because most is an women I have been have told me, repeatedly, that they don't want another Thai man in their life.[/QUOTE]They might as well say that since it is highly unlikely that a Thai man would be interested in establishing a serious or longterm relationship with the kind of Thai woman who has worked the P4P scene, is at, over or approaching 30 years old and a host of other issues that makes the lady essentially done and done in that regard in Thai culture and society. Oh, I know there are rare anecdotal exceptions. And I am not talking a 1-2 time hook up for sex or with a dumpster diver dude who will shack up with any Thai lady just to get in out of the rain.

But almost no Thai lady will assume she will be gifted in her life with one of those rare exceptions. She will assume, correctly the vast majority of times, her days of moving in with, being supported by or marrying a Thai man are over.

If she is a single mom? Forget it. Very few if any decent Thai men will take on the responsibility of someone else's child.

And it isn't just ex-P4P girls approaching 30 with or without kids who are no longer of interest to Thai men.

If she is more highly educated and speaks English well, much more so than the Thai men she meets? Forget it. Most female Thai nurses, teachers and the like couldn't get a date with a suitableThai man if they threatened him with a gun.

A 30-something Thai single mom (with a 7-8 year old kid) nurse or teacher, even a hot one, will be about the most desperate creature on any online dating site to find a good hearted Farang gentleman who will accept her as she is. It has likely been the conception of that child since she has had sex of any kind if she had been holding out for a Thai man to enter into her life before she eventually made peace with the idea of meeting and dating a Farang.

Very brief observations from a recent stay in Bangkok:

I had much better luck finding nice, pretty girls in Nana than Cowboy, so I spent the majority of my time there.

Butterflies is one of my favorites, as it has the best lap dances in Nana. Geak (#412) is very sweet and very sexy. Her sexiness isn't learned, she's one of the rare girls who is a natural. Be nice, and she'll respond the same. Her spirited and sexy friend is also a lot of fun, probably a good threesome.

Twister is still my favorite, though I wish the beautiful and busty #8 would barfine. There are plenty of other good options, though.

Things move quickly at Billboard, sometimes too fast for me. I've found it's best to get there early; it's amazing how many girls disappear (presumably barfined) between 8 and 9. To me, the bath girls seem more attractive than the rotating stage girls, so I try to find a spot with a good view of them. At least one of them is in the drop dead beautiful category, in my opinion, though she's not always there and disappears early when she is.

Rainbow 5 (next to twister) has some promising girls, maybe quite to the same extent as the clubs above, but definitely worth a visit. It stays very active (and packed) until very late.

A strategy I sometimes used was to arrive early, as I found that at each club the couple of really striking girls would often be gone by 9 or shortly after. Though sometimes it's more fun to linger for hours and buy drinks.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2168349]
What I would like to know, is what percentage of Thai girls will run amok, fighting, scratching, yelling and screaming, when drunk and pissed off about something? I have known the odd one or two. I suspect it is a much higher percentage than in the Farang women world. However interested in general opinions. This is behaviour that Farangs don't tolerate too well, right? Yes I know guys do it too, but that was not the question.

Does the evil ghost / spirit emerge from Thai women more than in Farangs, particularly when control is released by alcohol? Is violence and screaming more accepted in Thai society families? I compare with Farangs, since I am one and that is what I am more used to.[/QUOTE]This is common not just to Thai women, but also to Filipinas, Malay and Indonesian women. It's all about maintaining control and giving ultimatums if they don't get their way. No one stamped out this behaviour in the formative years of their lives, so these women have been allowed to carry on like spoilt brats. Associated with this is the sulking or silent treatment which the woman gives the man. In Tagalog it is called tampo.

Having lived in the west all my life, it is not so prevalent amongst white women. They have other ways of showing their displeasure.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2168745]This is common not just to Thai women, but also to Filipinas, Malay and Indonesian women. It's all about maintaining control and giving ultimatums if they don't get their way. No one stamped out this behaviour in the formative years of their lives, so these women have been allowed to carry on like spoilt brats. Associated with this is the sulking or silent treatment which the woman gives the man. In Tagalog it is called tampo.

Having lived in the west all my life, it is not so prevalent amongst white women. They have other ways of showing their displeasure.[/QUOTE]True words. My wife is Indo and she used to give ultimatums until I called her bluff and offered to buy her a one way ticket back home. She still sulks and gives me the silent treatment, which I don't mind LOL. I don't know why it is not knocked out of them as kids but it is childish.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2168678]Very brief observations from a recent stay in Bangkok:

I had much better luck finding nice, pretty girls in Nana than Cowboy, so I spent the majority of my time there.

Butterflies is one of my favorites, as it has the best lap dances in Nana. Geak (#412) is very sweet and very sexy. Her sexiness isn't learned, she's one of the rare girls who is a natural. Be nice, and she'll respond the same. Her spirited and sexy friend is also a lot of fun, probably a good threesome.

Twister is still my favorite, though I wish the beautiful and busty #8 would barfine. There are plenty of other good options, though.

Things move quickly at Billboard, sometimes too fast for me. I've found it's best to get there early; it's amazing how many girls disappear (presumably barfined) between 8 and 9. To me, the bath girls seem more attractive than the rotating stage girls, so I try to find a spot with a good view of them. At least one of them is in the drop dead beautiful category, in my opinion, though she's not always there and disappears early when she is.

Rainbow 5 (next to twister) has some promising girls, maybe quite to the same extent as the clubs above, but definitely worth a visit. It stays very active (and packed) until very late.

A strategy I sometimes used was to arrive early, as I found that at each club the couple of really striking girls would often be gone by 9 or shortly after. Though sometimes it's more fun to linger for hours and buy drinks.[/QUOTE]What Soi is Twister and Butterflies located on. I often walk Soi 11 but can not find the spots you have mentioned (Twisters, Butterflies, Billiards, Rainbow5).

[QUOTE=RobJones;2168752]True words. My wife is Indo and she used to give ultimatums until I called her bluff and offered to buy her a one way ticket back home. She still sulks and gives me the silent treatment, which I don't mind LOL. I don't know why it is not knocked out of them as kids but it is childish.[/QUOTE]Very good article below. It confirms that the anger and aggression in Thai women is about retaining control. She has too much to lose if the Farang leaves. Face, status, wealth.



http://thaigirl2004.********.com.au/2007/07/why-are-thai-women-so-explosive.html

The hidden word is blog spot

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2167610]Ah yes. The old "it doesn't matter how they look for a BJ" argument. We definitely agree that one does not really apply for everyone. Although I would go further in saying an attractive face is even more important for a BJ than for FS, especially when going for FS is not on the agenda.

BTW, I believe there are some exceptions to the "it's not her turn" issue we mentioned.

There is, for example, sometimes a lady at Kasalong that wears the same uniform as the others, sits outside with the other girls, wears glasses, is a bit older and less attracive than the others but who seems more often than not to be the one who waves over passersby, inviting them to go inside, making the pitch that this is a BJ Bar and so on. Clearly she is not always next up as often as she speaks up.

So I think there is an unspoken understanding among the girls, doubt they ever had an official discussion meeting about it, that this lady is chosen by customers so infrequently that she can be trusted to be a spokesperson for the place without taking customers away from the other girls. In which case she might even gesture to the girl who is next in queue first as if to help you select a girl.

Except, as in the case you mentioned, where the guy is too shy to hold his ground to choose another girl and just goes along with the spokeslerson.

There used to be a lady like that at L0litas too.[/QUOTE]I remember her. Haven't been there for a year or so. She looked like a librarian or school teacher. Ha. Actually I tried her, and she wasn't bad in service terms. And she wasn't bad looking, just older.

I don't post reports often, so panda with me.

Day #1 (4-13):

Landed at 0230-ish so I just made it straight for the hotel and crashed. Songkran was in full swing, so I decided to use Smooci rather than head to a bar / club. Booked February because of the reviews. She looks more or less like the photos. Honestly, there's nothing to say about the experience. Nothing stood out, everything was meh. I can't say it was mechanical, but it definitely wasn't warm, either. Not good, not bad, just meh. I wasn't even mad that she left early (after the deed), she asked me to, and I was totally fine with her leaving. If you want standard mostly unremarkable service, have at it.

Day #2 (4-14):

I'm lodged super close to Soi Cowboy, so I decided to head there 'round 2100, Songkran or no. I hit Baccara first. Dear god, I always forget how much of a Japanese trap that place is; it was so smokey and packed to the gills. I was one of two / three farangs on the first floor. Still, the Japanese are responsible for creating everything that I love, so they can have it. So, I was snubbed by three girls for being white (at one point, the waitress literally pointed at my skin, which had me actually laugh-choke on my beer). S'all good, so after about an hour of enjoying the show and drinking super slowly (to the annoyance of the waitress) I bounced and walked over to Crazy House about 2230. Nothing on stage worth writing home about. I asked for one of the gals, but she either already had a customer or did not take farangs; I didn't care enough to pay attention to the reason. I assume it was due to the holiday. The Japanese gentleman next to me almost passed out on my shoulder drunk, so I decided to move on, the waitress was about to walk over to demand that I buy another drink anyways.

I decided to give up on SC and move on to Nana. Went straight for Billboard, got there about midnight. I think. Forgive me on this, I can't remember the girls' numbers. I can't remember details like that ever. First attempt was with a slightly shorter (Thai girl standards) gal with massive breasts (looked to be the largest in the lineup) on the carousel who was about 23, dark hair, not too long. She's pretty enough, and talking to her was actually enjoyable, which made me think we had built some manner of rapport. My mistake.. She wouldn't go back to my hotel, had to be one of those crappy short time joints and was only willing to go for a single romp if you'll forgive the term. I get that that's starting to be (or has been?) the norm but I'm not a fan. In either case, the negotiation shot everything (namely, the mood) to hell and I sent her back to the carousel. Two minutes later, I grabbed a girl from the hot tub side that I was sure I recognized from last November. Slim, tan (a bit on the darker side), small / medium breasts (for a Thai girl), young (I'd be shocked if she was 21), long frizzy hair, cute face, and a very energetic dancer. She stands out, you'd be able to tell if you saw her. If you like the legitimate girlfriend experience, she's perfect, though be warned that she's very playful (very energetic). Didn't recognize me at first, but after a small hint she was able to describe our first encounter step for step. By GFE here, I mean, she's always trying to drag me to restaurants, clubs, etc. And she's very friendly. She even invited me to come party with her and her friends in Pattaya for their Songkran festivities; I politely declined. She couldn't seem to care less about the passage of time, so not a clock watcher. If ya end up with her, please heed the "your mileage may vary" principle. She might just be particularly fond of me specifically, who knows; I'm about 28 and not the most attractive, but I have no idea how she'd act with an older gentleman. She seemed friendly enough when other dudes were buying her drinks. In the bedroom, she's a firecracker, tons of energy. If I had not wanted to move, I know she would have rode me to completion regardless. Damage is normally 2.5 k with her not including any additional tip, which she normally more than earns.

Day 3 & 4 (4-15 - 4-16).

Didn't feel like messing with SC this time, despite being literally one / two (depends how you count those weird side streets) away and went straight back to Billboard. Went early, 'round 2000, wanted the best seat in the house. It's that elevated couch right next to the bar, perfect view of both lineups. Didn't wait too long, grabbed a cutie from the hot tub side again, this time with medium / large bolt-ONS, heavy pale makeup, braces, a bunch of ear piercings, a couple of tattoos on her upper back, and a modified nose. I don't mean any of those things as a slight, I liked all of it, it worked for her. She's another one of those energetic dancers, and the energy bled right into our meeting. Killer smile, too. Literally could not ask for more. Really nice gal, but she's extremely blunt and says mean things in a playful way to get a rise out of you. If there are "issues" with your outward appearance, be aware that she will point them out to you at some point or another; she found all of mine. Again, I enjoyed her personality, so none of this was problematic. We didn't spend long in the bar, I took her back to my hotel pretty quickly, which she actually seemed enthusiastic about. This gal was amazing in bed. BBBJ like a champ, open to any position, enthusiastic riding, aggressive kisser, and moans in a way that'd get any man off. If you're into it, neither of these girls are into anal, don't bother asking, it's super awkward getting back in the mood, haha. We tumbled twice, which she wasn't thrilled about going at it a second time at first (she was still worn out), but she got right into it the second we started kissing again. I was so enthralled that I asked her if she wanted to do long time the following day. No complaints on her end, she seemed happy about it actually. Requested "tip" was 3 k, but I gave her more. Contributing to price inflation or not, she earned every penny.

The following day was more of the above in bed (long time), and the same in the morning. I took her to eat at the Hooters after I picked her up at Billboard, and the band was awesome. They killed covering Frank Sinatra (My Way), Michael Jackson (Billy Jean & one that escapes me), and a bunch of other hits. As far as you GFE enthusiasts go, she fits the bill. We had great conversations, assisted by google translate, and she was mean as hell but in a playful endearing way. After our final session the following morning, she actually hit me with "Hey, want to go get breakfast?" rather than taking the money and going on her merry way, which I was more than up for.

TL; DR:

One meh girl from smoochi, would not repeat.

Snubbed at Baccara.

Two great girls from Billboard, would definitely repeat.

-Obligatory "if you meet them, be kind" remark goes here. -.

If you enjoyed this, and you would like to help me out, I'm looking for info on younger than 25 gals (with a cute face, otherwise they're quite easy to find and I wouldn't be asking) that are cool with anal. Yes, I'm familiar with Snow White (I've had Candy), Cherry (Meh), Tullip (Old), etc. PM me, if you'd be so kind. Thank ya.

[QUOTE=Shiofuki;2168835]I remember her. Haven't been there for a year or so. She looked like a librarian or school teacher. Ha. Actually I tried her, and she wasn't bad in service terms. And she wasn't bad looking, just older.[/QUOTE]Yes, that was her look. And I agree she isn't bad looking, just older and more managerial seeming than provider seeming. I am not surprised that she would be more experienced and likely better at the job in a room than others. And there is nothing objectionable about her face for that purpose, imo, once the eyeglasses are off.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2168595]If she is more highly educated and speaks English well, much more so than the Thai men she meets? Forget it. Most female Thai nurses, teachers and the like couldn't get a date with a suitableThai man if they threatened him with a gun.[/QUOTE]LOL, this should be good for us but unfortunately we don't seem to run into these well educated girls quite often. All we get is silly uneducated ladies from Isan.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2168349]The big difference is the Thai boy is much more likely to get her pregnant, because he just doesn't care, or someone does not want to pay for birth control. The parents should be forcing young girls to be on some birth control, whether they think she is a little angel or not.
I think quite a lot of hookers were starting in their late 20's and early 30's, due to being dumped by Thai man and left to support the kids. Not all gogo girls and masseuses start as teenagers.
I would be surprised if massage shops girls under 30 are as much as 50% of them. I now some shops try to have younger girls, but I also see so many shops with mostly older girls.[/QUOTE]Agree. Most working girls I came across had pretty much the same story. Became pregnant at young age (18-20), got promptly dumped and had to become sex worker to take care of family and baby. More of a cultural thing I think. Thai men dumping them is part of reason. Then they work for few years in this line. One thing that always surprised me was how insistent these women were on living alone without a man for rest of their life.

I can not imagine they follow up on their insistence. I can't imagine life can be good for a former prostitute living alone in Isaan.

Or is it?

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2168956]LOL, this should be good for us but unfortunately we don't seem to run into these well educated girls quite often. All we get is silly uneducated ladies from Isan.[/QUOTE]They do show up in the dating sites fairly often. Some of the better in bed Thai women I have been with over the past 5 years were the more highly educated, professionally successful ones looking for "Friendship, Romance/Dating, Marriage" on the dating sites, especially when it comes to oral skills.

Yep, talking about full on swallowers among the better looking 30 ish business managers, school teachers, nurses, etc single moms.

Shaved pussies and BB fucking are also much more readily agreed to and enthusiastically engaged in when you combine a better understanding of the relative safety of a vasectomy and a current Normal/Negative/Non-Reactive blood check document to show her as well as a natural tendency to be more open to great oral sex (both education related) with the even better understanding of how her days of having another serious relationship with a Thai man are over and she'd better start wrapping her mind around whatever it will take to keep a farang man with tons of younger options available to him interested.

[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;2168760]What Soi is Twister and Butterflies located on. I often walk Soi 11 but can not find the spots you have mentioned (Twisters, Butterflies, Billiards, Rainbow5).[/QUOTE]They're all in Nana Plaza off of Soi 4.

I started off with a session at Dream Heaven Massage, but I'll go over that in the appropriate thread.

Nana Plaza was really dead throughout. Billboard had their fair share of dancers, though not their best, and not much of a crowd early (9 pm). Went looking for Margie at Bangkok Bunnies, didn't see her, and there was nothing else to choose from. Noticeable amount of plump girls working. Was going to check out Rainbow, but there's a Ladyboy who works over by there who is super aggressive and always molests me, so I try to stay away from that area. Went into Butterflies instead based upon a post here, and HOLY MOLEY!

On a dead Wednesday night in Nana, they had a good looking group of girls (all in white bikini's, which I liked), a well lit clean looking club, a decent crowd, a super hot hostess (I was practically dry humping her on the way out - 1500 BF, 3000ST, ugh), and an interesting set up. Buy a lady drink gets them off stage (normal), buy TWO more to keep them off stage when the next time comes around, and them actually grinding on you when they're sitting with you. Maybe not so unique, but they were pushing it. Ok. I enjoyed it for a bit. Essentially you're spending $10 US for a table dance; isn't that a Western thing?

It's smart if you think about it though. It keeps the guests and the ladies involved and interacting, and gives the guests more time to sample and decide. I kinda like it.

And one of these nights I'm going to bang that hostess.

So then after my massage session I decide to walk all the way back to Soi 4, but I stop off at Soi Cowboy.

It appears someone had a heart attack at The Dollhouse, as they were wheeling him out (older white guy) and loading him up in the Med Vehicle as I got there. Everyone seemed pretty indifferent about it, though it looks like a few of the girls got off work early. Crazy House, I was in for literally 15 seconds. EVERY single girl had clothing on. Bye. Butterflies comes up with a great idea to get more people in the door (and maybe more girls) and the genius' at CH do the opposite. That is NOT going to lure more people in.

Went in Cactus Club, because I saw it in a Thai movie I just watched, but ran out pretty fast. Saw that hot coyote in front of Midnite that I BF'd back in October. She doesn't look quite as hot. The Coyote's were out in much fuller force last night. Finally of course ended up at Baccara, my favorite place to just sit and drink.

I'm not Japanese, and wouldn't be confused as one in million years. The only two nationalities I get confused on is British and Australian. Yet I've NEVER had an issue in Baccara. I buy my water at the outdoor bar (180,20 tip) and sit at the low end of the bottom floor stage were I can more easily see up their skirts. No one bugs me, I usually don't even waste time buying a drink for anyone.

But last night I did. I've seen #248 a couple of times and thought she was adorably cute. I finally decided to chat with her, so I bought her a drink. Small boobs, but super cute, petite, with a flat belly, and great hair. Says her name is 'Jane' and she's been there 11 days. From WAY down south by Malaysia. Seemed inbetween on kissing, I think, it was hard to understand her. I was going to press further, but I didn't. Wanted a second drink to sit with me longer and started to seem impatient. Probably had a lot to do with it. Finally decided my one pop at the massage was far and away enough for the night, though she came close to making me try.

Sometimes sleep is the better choice.