Lima

[QUOTE=TyroneFHornye;2120404]Hi,

I'm new to the site but am very experienced in the US and Costa Rica. But I'm headed for Lima in a few weeks and could use some advice.

1) What are the best places to stay in Miraflores?

2) Where is the best action in terms of meeting top-quality working girls?

3) Any suggestions re specific girls and how to contact them?

4) What's the going rate for the best talent?

Thanks to all, and I am happy to provide advice for Costa Rica, especially Jaco and the Cocal.[/QUOTE]With over 200 pages of information, I'll try and help you out because someone did the same for me.

1) In my opinion, the best area to stay is near Parque Kennedy. There are a lot of hotels, and many apartments to rent. It's close to a lot of restaurants, it's a safe area, and you can get around to a lot of different areas. Best place depends on your own personal preference and How much you would like to spend.

2) Peru has a lot of information on the internet. Foros, anuncios, web site and pages. It's all there. Some places are very expensive, other places are not. Las Cucardas is about a 20 minute taxi ride without traffic. Tequilla Rock can be fun, but it is way over priced.

3) The different foros en Peru are helpful. If you can read Spanish, you should find a lot of useful info.

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2114284]You must pay your $20 to join ISG in order to send / receive I'm's.

Then folks can send you private information.

Later.[/QUOTE]Yeah I tried. Had credit card issues but finally figured it out. I've found Miraflores, nice place. I'm liking Lima very much.

I was in Lima in November for a week and saw three friend's of Jockey16. I was there in October also, and Jockey16 went to great length to arrange meetings. This post is overdue. I will not go into details except to say that these woman are cute, friendly non-pros. My ATF was Miss Ro. They are students mostly, who are willing to meet for what is a lot to them, not much to me. As non-pros, do not expect impersonal, mechanical PSE service. I found that spending some time getting to know them, being polite and appreciative went a long way. I have the feeling that if a guy was rude, rough, or demanding they wouldn't put up with it, as they shouldn't. In then end I was able to spend some time with some genuine, sweet local girls, get to know them and their lives. It was a wonderful experience. Thanks again Jockey.

Please enough with this 'non-pro' fantasy talk. How is she not a "pro" when she had sex with your for money? What do you think is the threshold (I. E. Shags per day) that in your mind makes a girl pro versus non pro? It is utter nonsense and nothing more than a branding gimmick to suck more money out of you under the label of 'non pro'. She is as equally a sex worker as any other girl accepting money in return for sex. It is that simple -rest is your fantasy for the price you are willing to pony up for it.

As for Jockey and his girls -they are mostly chubby with photo-shopped pictures and nothing to write home about as far as the looks go. With little flair and Spanish skills, you can get a real 'non pro' in regular pick up clubs, bars, schools and cafes. But in the end, she will cost you money too with the wining and dining and possibly shopping.

What Jockey offers is a home delivery service with a pro girl at the high price point, which to some is an attractive option. How funny that probably the same girl you shagged with right now as we speak is shagging another guy in his hotel room and naive dude is thinking to himself 'oh god how lucky I am fucking this non-pro!

[QUOTE=Pmeli19;2126312]As non-pros, do not expect impersonal, mechanical PSE service. I found that spending some time getting to know them, being polite and appreciative went a long way. I have the feeling that if a guy was rude, rough, or demanding they wouldn't put up with it, as they shouldn't. In then end I was able to spend some time with some genuine, sweet local girls, get to know them and their lives. It was a wonderful experience. Thanks again Jockey.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frankfurt;2127047]Please enough with this 'non-pro' fantasy talk. How is she not a "pro" when she had sex with your for money? What do you think is the threshold (I. E. Shags per day) that in your mind makes a girl pro versus non pro?[/QUOTE]Uhhh. I think he meant semi-pro. LOL.

Easy, if she insists on a condom she's a pro.

Bareback = minimal condition for non pro relationship.

Debate settled.

Hi Frankfurt.

Thank you for the your opinion, since it should help those planing to visit Lima make an informed decision based on related experiences related here. After all, this is one of the forum's goals. Let's stipulate from the go, that P4 P is prostitution so in that regard, my friends are semi pro.

Now, allow me to offer additional insight into your observations and establish some differences.

1. What do you think is the threshold (I. E. Shags per day) that in your mind makes a girl pro versus non pro?

PRO: As many as they can get during their available time.

MY FRIENDS: Only when they need money and they call me. Many times when an ISG monger asks me to introduce him a friend, I have to make some calls and intice one of them to go out. Not always successful.

2. "It is utter nonsense and nothing more than a branding gimmick to suck more money out of you under the label of 'non pro' ".

PRO: Advertise their services on many mediums, Craiglist, internet (nenasdeperu, placeresdeperu) for exactly 60 min for 120 dls or more.

MY FRIENDS: Don't advertise at all and will see you for 90 for less than that and if you click, they may even accompany for a dinner.

3. "you can get a real 'non pro' in regular pick up clubs, bars, schools and cafes. ".

Well said, and indeed will cost you a lot more and they may latch on you to the point you won't have any free time left. I also ask, how many time do they do that?

4. "What Jockey offers is a home delivery service with a pro girl at the high price point, ".

Wrong my fiend. My friends are not pros by any definition.

Additional differences:

PRO:

1. Live in a rented apartment, specially Colombians and Venezuelans who come to Lima for 2 or 3 months to exclusibly offer their services 24 hrs / day.

2. Have 2 cel phones, one for the business and a personal one.

3. May do it without a condom for an additional cost.

4. Have to extrictly manage their time so they may be looking at their watch constanlty since the next customer may be waiting his turn.

5. Incapable to offer GFE.

6. May have STD so she will need to use condom but some may not care.

MY FRIENDS:

1. Live with their parents and will go out only when they need money.

2. Have a basic smart phone.

3. Will always do it with a condom. Suggest you demand it, however this is a very personal choice.

". HIV / AIDS in Peru. Cases of HIV / AIDS in Peru are considered to have reached the level of a concentrated epidemic. . Among Peru's reported cases of HIV / AIDS, 77 percent are in Lima and Callao the capital city area (United Nations General Assembly Special Session report, 2010). . ".

4. Can only go out after classes and usually in the afternoon for approximately 90 min.

5. Usually GFE.

6. They will use condoms.

Lima offers many choices, Trocadero and Cucardas for 20 min a total of 20 dls approx, for the budget minded monger all the way to a 200 - 300 hundred dls places for a short time.

It appears that those who have met some of my friends are those who don't have the time to look for company, want a GFE with someone who does not do this all day despite the fact that a few may be not have a surgically sculptured body.

Life is short and full of choices my friend. Enjoy it!

Later.

[QUOTE=Frankfurt;2127047]Please enough with this 'non-pro' fantasy talk. How is she not a "pro" when she had sex with your for money? What do you think is the threshold (I. E. Shags per day) that in your mind makes a girl pro versus non pro? It is utter nonsense and nothing more than a branding gimmick to suck more money out of you under the label of 'non pro'. She is as equally a sex worker as any other girl accepting money in return for sex. It is that simple -rest is your fantasy for the price you are willing to pony up for it.

As for Jockey and his girls -they are mostly chubby with photo-shopped pictures and nothing to write home about as far as the looks go. With little flair and Spanish skills, you can get a real 'non pro' in regular pick up clubs, bars, schools and cafes. But in the end, she will cost you money too with the wining and dining and possibly shopping.

What Jockey offers is a home delivery service with a pro girl at the high price point, which to some is an attractive option. How funny that probably the same girl you shagged with right now as we speak is shagging another guy in his hotel room and naive dude is thinking to himself 'oh god how lucky I am fucking this non-pro![/QUOTE]

Hi XXL,

As I mentioned it to Frankfurt, unprotected sex is a personal choice.

Allow me to share a recent story.

Recently, an ISG member met one of my friends and in a short review I always ask from from sides to insure that what was agreed took place, he described the experience as a pleasant one where he even tipped her. She on the other hand added a bit more information the following day.

It turns out that because of the horrible Lima traffic, she arrived late and he had already made a commitment 90 min from the agreed upon time.

Apparently there was not enough time to consume the deed but still he was generous enough to recognize the effort and the situation.

Rare and generous attitude rarely found in experienced and budgeted mongers.

She proceeded to tell me that she went out with some girlfriends but was bothered with what had happened so she returned late at night after he had returned from his dinner engagement and consumed the deed at no additional cost.

Rare and generous attitude rarely found in PROs.

Behave as a gentleman and you'll be treated as such. Be an asshole or a cheapo and be equally rewarded. .

Later.

[QUOTE=XXL;2127219]Easy, if she insists on a condom she's a pro.

Bareback = minimal condition for non pro relationship.

Debate settled.[/QUOTE]

I want to say that Jockey is an awesome guy. I was in Lima in September and met several girls both on my own and with Jockey's help. I met a young 19 yrl Perbian hottie that I contacted via Tinder. She was young, hot and tight. She was cheap too as it only cost me a few drinks and a pretty cheap meal. She stayed the night and I banged her again in the morning. Only down side was she wasn't very enthusiastic in bed but I really can't complain since I spent less than 50 $ on her. Tried Tinder my entire stay but no other hookups. Just several flakes.

Now I had contacted Jockey before my arrival and had set up to meet two of his friends. Met the first one, miss are in the afternoon of my second day in Lima. She was punctual and fun. Definitely the most enthusiast session of my entire trip. She spent well over 90 minuets with me so I made sure to tip her. Definitely worth meeting.

3rd day in the morning / early afternoon I met a girl I contacted on Seeking Arrangement. Definitely the hottest girl I had this trip and the most expensive too. Wanted 200 dollars an hour originally which made me laugh. Settled for 200 $ for 2 hrs which ended up more like 2.5 hrs. Definitely hot near model status but again didn't really get into the sex. Not sure I would recommend her to anyone since she was really mechanical.

Later that day I met Jockeys friend miss J. She was short lite skin and spoke fluent English. I'm Hispanic and fluent in Spanish but for those who would like to be able to communicate with no problem she is perfect. The service was excellent and very passionate. Not a clock watcher at all, spent plenty of time making sure I was very satisfied. I was happy to pay her and give her a nice tip. If I go back to Lima this year I'll definitely try to repeat with her.

My last day I was busy early in the day but managed to make time to meet an escort off photokine named Lucero. She was tall blonde with white skin and nice curves. 300 soles per hour but it was with bbj and anal included so I was happy to pay it. She was far more skilled than Tinder girl and had a better attitude than SA girl. Still I definitely enjoyed my time with both of Jockeys friends far better so I thank him for making the introductions. I didn't try the bar scene so can't comment on it. Overall there is plenty of ways to find someone to spend time with in Lima. I hope to visit again this year.

Hi Bandit,

Thank you for the kind words, for the way you treated my friends and that you are a happy camper.

I believe you have enjoyed the various options available in Lima that we have been discussing.

That is the talent, behavior and cost.

Return soon my friend.

Later.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2127504]I want to say that Jockey is an awesome guy. I was in Lima in September and met several girls both on my own and with Jockey's help. I met a young 19 yrl Perbian hottie that I contacted via Tinder. She was young, hot and tight. She was cheap too as it only cost me a few drinks and a pretty cheap meal. She stayed the night and I banged her again in the morning. Only down side was she wasn't very enthusiastic in bed but I really can't complain since I spent less than 50 $ on her. Tried Tinder my entire stay but no other hookups. Just several flakes.

Now I had contacted Jockey before my arrival and had set up to meet two of his friends. Met the first one, miss are in the afternoon of my second day in Lima. She was punctual and fun. Definitely the most enthusiast session of my entire trip. She spent well over 90 minuets with me so I made sure to tip her. Definitely worth meeting.

3rd day in the morning / early afternoon I met a girl I contacted on Seeking Arrangement. Definitely the hottest girl I had this trip and the most expensive too. Wanted 200 dollars an hour originally which made me laugh. Settled for 200 $ for 2 hrs which ended up more like 2.5 hrs. Definitely hot near model status but again didn't really get into the sex. Not sure I would recommend her to anyone since she was really mechanical.

Later that day I met Jockeys friend miss J. She was short lite skin and spoke fluent English. I'm Hispanic and fluent in Spanish but for those who would like to be able to communicate with no problem she is perfect. The service was excellent and very passionate. Not a clock watcher at all, spent plenty of time making sure I was very satisfied. I was happy to pay her and give her a nice tip. If I go back to Lima this year I'll definitely try to repeat with her.

My last day I was busy early in the day but managed to make time to meet an escort off photokine named Lucero. She was tall blonde with white skin and nice curves. 300 soles per hour but it was with bbj and anal included so I was happy to pay it. She was far more skilled than Tinder girl and had a better attitude than SA girl. Still I definitely enjoyed my time with both of Jockeys friends far better so I thank him for making the introductions. I didn't try the bar scene so can't comment on it. Overall there is plenty of ways to find someone to spend time with in Lima. I hope to visit again this year.[/QUOTE]

Hello buddies,

I am a new member here, I am German and will travel next Thursday to Lima. I was three times in Chile, but Peru I don't know at all. So I need some advice movement therapy related.

I decided to travel only a month ago and I will be there six weeks. I have a Peruvian friend who also wants to spend her holidays there, but I don't know how much time I want to spend with her. If you want to do something, you can send a message.

Regards Jensi.

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2127758]Hi Bandit,

Thank you for the kind words, for the way you treated my friends and that you are a happy camper.

I believe you have enjoyed the various options available in Lima that we have been discussing.

That is the talent, behavior and cost.

Return soon my friend.

Later.[/QUOTE]

Now this is a great businessman. He takes even the most brutal criticism with a smile and keeps it moving. You sir should run for potus LOL.

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2127407]Hi Frankfurt.

Thank you for the your opinion, since it should help those planing to visit Lima make an informed decision based on related experiences related here. After all, this is one of the forum's goals. Let's stipulate from the go, that P4 P is prostitution so in that regard, my friends are semi pro......[/QUOTE]

Hi World,

I take that as a compliment, thank you, however this is not my business.

It is illegal to profit from introducing girls for money. Fortunately, I don't need to make any money from this even though if is often offered.

Besides if I needed it, it wouldn't make business sense to risk so much for so little, which would be a commission from what little they would make.

With the rampant corruption reported in Per, you'll be in incredible trouble if you ever get trapped in the Judicial system. Take David's case for example.

I like to meet people and in the case of these girls, getting to know them closely, enjoy their eager-to-please grateful energy (Not a freebee) and seeing how you can make a bit of difference in their daily struggle to better themselves in a very challenging environment.

Later.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2134047]Now this is a great businessman. He takes even the most brutal criticism with a smile and keeps it moving. You sir should run for potus LOL.[/QUOTE]

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Hello guys,

I have been in this "Club", in German we call this "Laufhaus" Monday a week ago, for the first time.

A friend of mine took me by his car there.

The district is gloomy, so better go there by taxi or by your own car. I would not recommend to go there by public transportation (or by foot).

There is one big parking lot directly in front of the club. You pay approx 2 € per hour and it seems to be very safe.

The Club is popular, so there is a lot of action on this street. A lot of security staff, taxis, clients etc.

Entrance: 10 €.

You have to leave your mobile phone on the entrance (I did not take any mobile phone with me).

There are two floors and every floor has a bar and tables where you can spend time with your buddies.

In every floor there are plenty of girls.

Mostly these girls are from Ecuador and Colombia and mostly look gorgeous.

I would sleep with the half of the staff if I could afford this.

The atmosphere was relaxed and friendly. The girls were talkative to me.

All girls cost 80 soles, (24€) for one time sex.

My buddy told me anxl costs 150 Soles but not all girls perform this.

(The prices seems to be standardized for all girls).

I found a cutie from Ecuador and went inside for 80 Soles. Every girl has a tiny room with bed.

She was 21 years old, she had pretty face and nice slim body. She had a nice attitude while performing sex.

In my opinion the club is safe and the girls are pretty.

You do not need big spanish language skills to have success in Las Cucardas.

Have fun,

J.