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[QUOTE=TrueBlue666;2171893]
On the topic of those types of establishments, anything comparable to Thermae around anymore? There used to be that Lions Den place with the shark tank, but that's gone now. I see mention of a Beer Garden or maybe it's Bier Garten but I'm really not familiar with it. I saw a Beer Garden on soi 7 but the crowd looked significantly older at the time so I'm not sure that's the one that's discussed. I know Climax is also mostly a working girl pick up joint, but I'm not really in love with the atmosphere. Recommendations welcome. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Thermae is your best bet for FL action in Sukhumvit. Besides Thermae its really mostly 30+ year old older girls.
Biergarten is all older ladies. 40+. The 30 somethings from Thermae would be the youngest ones there.
Climaxx is now gone. Completely shut.
Oskar is also more older girls. High class, nicely dressed and coiffed and they ask an arm and a leg. But an occasional young gem can be found there.
The crowd form Oskar goes to Levels later in the evening. Otherwise not much there.
Insanity sucks. Did not see one attractive girl when I was there (maybe because they had a concert and were charging at the door).
Hilary bars on Nana are worth a peek for FL action. But like finding a needle in a haystack.
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[QUOTE=LuckyLew;2172395]You and I share the same goal; to have a great evening / afternoon with the talking, drinking, and watching as a necessary prelude the main event. So, I enjoyed reading your posts and I find them helpful. In a similar sense, my total expenditures might equal twice the cost of actual time alone with the girl. My most recent experience was at Som's Haven. I went there for mid-day sojourn and was immediately grabbed by a rather heavy, loud, tattooed woman. I was assured by Som that she was an "absolute expert" and that no one else would be available for another 30 minutes. I probably could have received excellent oral and been out of there in 30 min for 700 baht. But I chose instead to hang out, drink some beer and had an opportunity to talk to four of the girls before I settled on a cute little spinner MILF. She was 33 years old and has two kids. I know she's not really your type but I'm a little older so it was perfect for me. Excellent attitude, cute face and shape, and near perfect English, also very self-conscious of her smallish breast size. I assured her, not a problem for me. I spent about three hours with her, drank some beer, met her sister and one of her friends, received excellent massage and full-service with a stellar finish. I went back to the hotel with a big smile and took a long nap. An afternoon at a BJ Bar was a total expenditure was about 3500 baht and worth every baht to me.[/QUOTE]Great example. I myself like to do the same when I go out.
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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2172320]Do they exist in BKK? I was doing some research and I came across names of 2 clubs that supposedly had South American ladies (Columbian) but both those clubs have now shut down. So does anyone know if there is any club / bar in BKK where one can find Columbian or Brazilian ladies? I did RTFF but couldn't find anything. I'll be in BKK this coming weekend to fuck my Uzbek lady friend for 3 days but wouldn't mind trying someone else on the side.
Thanks!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]There is also a dedicated thread for this topic which if you read it, you might find some info. Just a suggestion.
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[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2172634]Insanity sucks. Did not see one attractive girl when I was there (maybe because they had a concert and were charging at the door).[/QUOTE]I myself would have to say that Insanity is hit and miss. However, it has adopted most if not all of the working girls who used to frequent Climax so the talent is there. You just need to weed through all the people. I myself have had great times in there. One in particular which ended with BBFS CIP with an extremely attractive girl. Damage was 3,000 for 2 hours. I could have gotten it for 2,500 but I never see the point of haggling over 500 Baht. It normally makes the session go much smoother.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2172736]I myself would have to say that Insanity is hit and miss. However, it has adopted most if not all of the working girls who used to frequent Climax so the talent is there. You just need to weed through all the people. I myself have had great times in there. One in particular which ended with BBFS CIP with an extremely attractive girl. Damage was 3,000 for 2 hours. I could have gotten it for 2,500 but I never see the point of haggling over 500 Baht. It normally makes the session go much smoother.[/QUOTE]Admittedly I was only there once. But I never did like the Old Insanity either so perhaps this is why I was so quick to judge. Maybe worth another look. Though I think next time in BKK I will probably stay in Patpong and focus on the gogos there.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2172591]Thanks for the report. I am surprised Som was there. She has not been present the last few times I stopped by and other previous Som's Haven regulars have been saying the same. And, hate to say it, but I think you made the right move in ignoring Som's high recommendation for that or any other girl in the place these days. I would not have said that 3-4 years ago when she used to be very good at steering me towards some of the best providers I have ever experienced in a BJ Bar. Then she would say something in Thai to the girl as we started to go upstairs and, whatever it was, those earlier Som's Haven girls she recommended to me really delivered the goods beyond expectations.
But that took a turn at some point and, frankly, her recommendations over the past 2-3 years turned out to be some of the worst I have ever experienced. Not that she purposely tries to pawn off the worst, least popular (deservedly so) providers onto whoever is ready to choose. I just think she no longer has a clue or cares which ones are good, bad or indifferent, what they do upstairs, whether they get enthusiastic repeat customers or what the repercussions might be if the customer is not well taken care of. Consequently, I have only taken 1-2 girls there over the past couple of years. I have stopped in to have a drink and say hi to Som, who is now rarely there. But I am no longer inspired to take a girl upstairs very often.[/QUOTE]I think she has lost interest in personally running the business because she doesn't have to. She can make just as much money off of her girls as any repeat customer. I doubt there is a single lady in a given month that has not paid 1000's of baht for a sick day, family emergency or even being a few minutes late (note the time clock behind the bar). I understand the need to demand some discipline in your work force to run a successful business but I would guess that some of the poor performance is due to the lady being sick and not able to afford a day off. I'm sure this is why she has such a large staff. No cost at all to her and the opportunity to make money when they service a customer or need to take time off. That said there are a few hard working ladies there so I still like to visit on occasion and I am quite satisfied with the service.
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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2172320]Do they exist in BKK? I was doing some research and I came across names of 2 clubs that supposedly had South American ladies (Columbian) but both those clubs have now shut down. So does anyone know if there is any club / bar in BKK where one can find Columbian or Brazilian ladies? I did RTFF but couldn't find anything. I'll be in BKK this coming weekend to fuck my Uzbek lady friend for 3 days but wouldn't mind trying someone else on the side.
Thanks!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I am currently in Saô Paulo, Brazil, after spending 10 days in Colombia. I can tell you that the service you get locally is far superior to what you get overseas from these girls. I had a couple of Colombian girls at the FKKs over the years, and the service was way below par. That is because typically only hardcore girls go overseas to work, and they are more focused on making money than giving good service. I like Colombian girls. Besides the FKKs, you may find them in Hong Kong, Singapore, and China. I don't know about Thailand.
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Field Report
Had some things to do in Bangkok on Friday, so took the BTS up from home, and decided to stay the weekend.
Friday night I fell asleep and didn't wake up until 2 am, but it was kind of fun to walk around Soi 4 at that time (and later) and see all of the offers thrown my way. I was really still half asleep, and hadn't planned on partaking, but this cute little gal from Pattaya made me an offer I couldn't say no to.
If you're pretty cute, have a nice little body (doesn't have to be perfect), have your hand up my shorts, and I'm STILL fighting off the urge to go with you, well: offering 1000 Baht (room price included) will certainly sway my decision making. I got her name, but forgot to put it in my phone, didn't get her LINE, but I was going to meet up with her the next night, but she said she was going back to Pattaya. I said, maybe I'll see you down there one weekend. And then failed to get any contact info.
I WAS in a haze.
Saturday night, after a busy day, I decided to just go hang in some of the clubs, have a few drinks and observe. I was again, really impressed with BUTTERFLIES. The place was very upbeat, well lit, and they had a young, attractive group of ladies there, all in day glo bikini's (someone is making some good decision's in this place). And really, an extra point for the place in that the number of girls eye Fkking me from stage was better than at any other place I went to that night. I like this club.
I then realized there were bars in Nana I had never been in before. WELL known go go bars, and I figured now would be a good time to check them out. Twister Bar I went into for the first time and even though the selection I thought was only fair (#921 had a sweet little body, cute face, and hot ass), the place had a decent crowd partying and having fun. I need to explore more often!
Rainbow 4, I had never been in! Now they had a decent selection of ladies. A few I thought were very much worthy, AND they had a rockin' crowd. I had no idea! Before Butterflies, I had stopped in Mandarin and whatever the one is to the left of it that goes upstairs. I just pretended I was looking for someone, because I didn't want to even stay and have a water.
I spent the longest time at Billboard (naturally), partly so I could Shazam the DJ's playlist for some cool remixes, though he wasn't really doing any real mixing, just playing popular stuff and slamming them back to back. Not a slag to him, the crowd was enjoying the music, it just wasn't like at Baccara, where they're actually mixing and matching beats, and no one is paying any attention except my goofy ass. Just sayin'.
Anyway, Billboard had some good eye candy. In particular, a guy sitting near me had #39. She has kind of a square jaw or something, still pretty, for sure, and maybe a little larger boob job than necessary (who am I to say? But man, what a hot, flawless body. Smokin' hot. He left with her after a few rounds of drinks and grinding.
I saw #54 each time it was her turn to go onstage, with a tall, slender body and a perfect ass, but she'd never be there when the stage would come around for a second showing. I couldn't see where or who she was sitting with, or if it was even the same guy buying her down, but she would literally last one rotation on stage each time. Pretty sure she was a smaller boob size (always looking at that ass and then. Boom. Gone), but still very hot.
Bangkok Bunnies, I went through. The waitresses drive me nuts there. Saw Margie, to me, the hottest gal in Nana, but she was busy with someone and didn't get a chance to talk. I need to see her again for sure one of these nights. Lollipop has some ok girls, for such a small club, though I'm pretty sure I see a Post-op in there on stage, that I used to have a few drinks with. Hmmm. Anyway, that's about it. Got mauled by a few Ladyboys on the way home, appreciate the attention, but went home alone, not much else to report.
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[QUOTE=IloveTits;2171403]Yesterday I went to Nana Plaza to one of my favourite bars there. It's Erotica. It's on the left side between the second and third floor in the corner. Chang beer were 95 Baht the last years. I asked the guy at the door if it's still 95 but he said no, now it's 120 Baht. It's still a good price so I asked again. One two zero Baht? He confirmed. I went inside and ordered a chang. I didn't check the bill (big mistake). After a while I paid a lady drink and another chang for me. I wasn't in the mood for the girl and asked for the bill. It comes with 510 Baht! Chang 170 Baht. I asked why 170 the guy said 120. She just said, no it's 170. I went to mamasan and asked her about the bill. She said the boys outside don't speak good English. It must be a misunderstanding, chang is 170. How can it be a misunderstanding? I asked twice. I paid the bill and left. After about an hour I came back and asked another guy at the door about the price. He also said 120 Baht. So for me it's getting people inside the bar by telling them a cheaper price. Rip off. Be careful if you go there or better don't go there at all. I will not.
By the way. LD 170, barfine 700, room 350 and the girl 2500 for short time. That 's at least what they said.[/QUOTE]I can't say I have ever been in Erotica. I don't remember it.
Yes its a big mistake to ask anyone outside the bar or even talk to them. We hear reports of scams in the ladyboy bars as well, and the Arab's bars in Soi cowboy (Kiss, Sahara, Deja Vu, Midnite, Spice Girls, Rio) are now not to be visited unless you want to meet the Thai bouncers after getting an inflated bill.
Stay with the recommended bars. I always check my bill in any bar I am not used to, especially after ordering the first drink. Many bars will show you a menu of prices for drinks.
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[QUOTE=IloveTits;2171403]Yesterday I went to Nana Plaza to one of my favourite bars there. It's Erotica. It's on the left side between the second and third floor in the corner. Chang beer were 95 Baht the last years. I asked the guy at the door if it's still 95 but he said no, now it's 120 Baht. It's still a good price so I asked again. One two zero Baht? He confirmed. I went inside and ordered a chang. I didn't check the bill (big mistake). After a while I paid a lady drink and another chang for me. I wasn't in the mood for the girl and asked for the bill. It comes with 510 Baht! Chang 170 Baht. I asked why 170 the guy said 120. She just said, no it's 170. I went to mamasan and asked her about the bill. She said the boys outside don't speak good English. It must be a misunderstanding, chang is 170. How can it be a misunderstanding? I asked twice. I paid the bill and left. After about an hour I came back and asked another guy at the door about the price. He also said 120 Baht. So for me it's getting people inside the bar by telling them a cheaper price. Rip off. Be careful if you go there or better don't go there at all. I will not.
By the way. LD 170, barfine 700, room 350 and the girl 2500 for short time. That 's at least what they said.[/QUOTE]I must have missed this post when it first appeared and just now caught it when Syzygies quoted from it.
Ok, this might sound weird, but in my experience the absolute most often misunderstood number when spoken by a Thai person speaking English is when they say "70". It ALWAYS sounds to me like they are saying "20" instead of "70". It happens so often, whenever I hear a Thai person saying what sounds to me like "120", "220" or whatever, I automatically assume they are actually saying "170", "270" and so on. And if I test it I am never surprised when I give them one or two hundred baht notes along with a 20 baht note and they look at me and wait like I haven't given them rest of it. Ask them to repeat it and they will still say something that sounds like "20" and not "70".
Seriously. It happens at the cinema snack bars, the restaurants, the malls, everywhere. It is not a trick or a scam. There is just something about the way a native Thai speaker says "70" in English that sounds like they are saying "20" to us. They stumble over the "s", it come out sounding like a "t", the "v" comes out as a "w" (typical in Thai speaking) and then they separate the syllables and emphasize them in a way we native English speakers don't expect to hear in the word "70".
It comes out as "teh-wen-ty" (70), which a native English speaker would assume is the way a non native English speaker might say "20", right?
Btw, I am not a big fan of Erotica go-go bar because the girls in there rarely paid any attention to me, a farang, once I sat down and bought a drink. But they did seem to be very, very interested whenever an old Asian guy or guys come in. But I haven't been in there for so long, at least a couple of years, maybe that trend has changed.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2174295]Seriously. It happens at the cinema snack bars, the restaurants, the malls, everywhere. It is not a trick or a scam. There is just something about the way a native Thai speaker says "70" in English that sounds like they are saying "20" to us. They stumble over the "s", it come out sounding like a "t", the "v" comes out as a "w" (typical in Thai speaking) and then they separate the syllables and emphasize them in a way we native English speakers don't expect to hear in the word "70".
It comes out as "teh-wen-ty" (70), which a native English speaker would assume is the way a non native English speaker might say "20", right?
[/QUOTE]LOL.
20 should sound like Ta-wen-tee and 70 should sound like Se-wen-tee. S sound on start of a syllable is quite normal in Thai language so I do not really understand why they would stumble on it. I probably rarely experience these things since I would only ever ask the price in Thai language, but for sure I get confused if they answer in English. I understand Thai a lot better than Thais speaking poor English.
I have a great of problem hearing a difference between 15 and 50 from Thais. They most certainly cannot say "The sixth sick Shiek's sixth sheep is sick" or even get remotely close, let alone say it fast. "x", "ks", and "th" don't exist in Thai sounds, and "xth" is quite ridiculous.
Thais sometimes have difficulty picking the difference between my 21 and 28 in Thai.
21 is "Yee-sip et" and 28 is "Yee-sip Bpaet" (tones do not differ). I have to make sure I say the last syllable very distinctly, as obviously my accent is having some effect. The later has a much wider open mouth as well has having the beginning consonant and a long vowel instead of short, so the two do not seem at all similar. Perhaps I fail to close my mouth sufficiently on "Et" and make it short enough and separate it from the "p" on the end of "sip". So I can see where the problem lies, and make an effort to be extra distinct and clear. American drawl would make it even worse (fortunately I am not American with exaggerated long vowel sounds). Americans speaking Thai can sound so funny with drawl effects. Hopefully some American speakers can reduce or eliminate that.
I like bars where girls pay no attention to me until I give them the signal. LOL
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2173035]I am currently in Sa Paulo, Brazil, after spending 10 days in Colombia. I can tell you that the service you get locally is far superior to what you get overseas from these girls. I had a couple of Colombian girls at the FKKs over the years, and the service was way below par. That is because typically only hardcore girls go overseas to work, and they are more focused on making money than giving good service. I like Colombian girls. Besides the FKKs, you may find them in Hong Kong, Singapore, and China. I don't know about Thailand.[/QUOTE]They also not look much for repeat customers anyhow.
In FKK there is a rotation, in Asia, too as they travel the circuit. Their customer base comes and goes and it is unlinkely the same customer calls them for a repeat during the course of their stay.
They mainly sort out a hitch.
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Day time action.
Is it just me or is it awfully difficult to find a decent looking girl during daytime around Soi 4?
I did most bars along the street, but only met below average looking girls.
I finally picked up a not too bad looking girl who's sat at the corner of Soi 4 and Nana City hotel (she's there every day), name Kan (I guess), paid 2000 short time for a pretty good fuck.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2174328]LOL.
20 should sound like Ta-wen-tee and 70 should sound like Se-wen-tee. S sound on start of a syllable is quite normal in Thai language so I do not really understand why they would stumble on it.[/QUOTE]I don't know why either. But many times the word "70" does not start with a clean and clear "s" when they say "70" in English. Like maybe they are tempted to say "jet sib" and out comes a "j" or hard "ch" sound that comes close enough to a "t" to fool the native English speaker's ear into thinking the word is "20", especially when it is followed by "wen-ty" instead of "venty". But even when I am aware and prepared for the possibility, that word "seventy" still sounds for all the world to be "tehwenty".
However, that would not exactly account for what the Erotica go-go bar doorman was up to when the customer asked for further confirmation by indicating "1-2-zero?" But by then I assume the doorman did what most Thai service people do and just zone out and start thinking how he is going to master that Candy Crush game as soon as he gets to his smartphone.
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[QUOTE=GoodShag;2174357]Is it just me or is it awfully difficult to find a decent looking girl during daytime around Soi 4?
I did most bars along the street, but only met below average looking girls.
I finally picked up a not too bad looking girl who's sat at the corner of Soi 4 and Nana City hotel (she's there every day), name Kan (I guess), paid 2000 short time for a pretty good fuck.[/QUOTE]Daytime better relay on Thai friendly. Bar or gogo girls being at home looking for some extra and of "night" quality.
Bearing in mind the night hawks can't stsnd on the street 20 hrs a day.
But surely can lay on somebody's bed for a fee.