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[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2509566]Hi guys,
I am thinking about booking a flight to Medellin for Dec 26 until after New Year. Anyone know the status of a lockdown or curfew? What about the bars? I had read that the government may impose it but not sure if it's true or not. TIA.[/QUOTE]Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2509778]Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.[/QUOTE]Agree with this statement.
Nevertheless, I plan on heading down to MDE around this time as well. I'll provide a trip report afterwards as well. Fingers crossed.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2509376]I have been the biggest advocate of using SA in Colombia, and I have to say now that you did not need to pay that near $100 a month fee in Colombia. The only exception would be if you are looking for a higher quality woman for a long term relationship who has a real job over someone making a living on her back. I guess you could find that with Facebook, but I think it would be harder.[/QUOTE]Is it harder on Cupid as well? Because there for the last almost 16 years I have found quality women with real jobs for long term relationships at 1/12 of that price. To me it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Maybe SA is like sitting at a table with a bib around your neck while the cooked fish is sat in front of you.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2509778]Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Surfer. Good reminder!
I am looking to travel somewhere during the 2nd week in January. MDE is tops on my list. Just nervous about what may or may not be coming with tightening. For a while, it seemed like a tightening of restrictions was imminent in Colombia. But it's fairly quiet at the moment.
I've worn out Tijuana and I'm looking for a change of pace.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2509602]If you enjoy an in-person selection where just a hint of "game" can make your overall mongering experience and "session" slightly more enjoyable, then I don't think Parque Lleras can be beat. I have been to Sosua, Santo Domingo, Mexico City, and Cancun. They are all fun and you can score very good looking women for some cash in all places, but Medellin has them all beat and its not up for much debate. I have only been twice and I am not the expert,[/QUOTE]You don't need to be an expert. The fact that you have been to multiple places and are able to make a comparison says a lot. Many guys only go to 1 place and declare it to be the best thing ever without having anything to compare it to.
There are many Venezuelans who are not going home for the holidays. Today is when it really hit home for me because a veteran Botero bunny I know told me how many of her compatriots are going to work through the holidays like her. It will be slower but not completely dead. If there is more action wherever anyone is from then yes, I would stay there.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2509778]Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.[/QUOTE]
I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2509855] I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.[/QUOTE]Can I ask, how exactly did this go down? Like, you just saw her, went up to her, and straight up asked for her number? I believe your spanish isn't great so what sorts of things did you even say to her to break the ice?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2509855]I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.[/QUOTE]My advice is you don't bring up the subject of money directly, unless she does. Instead you send a couple of simple, safe compliments. Something along the line of "you have beautiful eyes" rather than "I'd like to drown you in cum."
Then I'd tell her "Quiero conocerte" and see where she goes from there. If she's not a pro, she might put the brakes on, or try to get to know you through lots of questions. If she's a pro, she'll jump on the chance. If she's enthusiastic about coming to see you, a simple "que quieres cuando me visitas" (what do you want when you visit me) should bring up the mention of money, either directly or indirectly. Indirectly might be "necesito pagar mis servicios" or a mention of Christmas or her need to buy her "estren." It's traditional and thought to bring good things if a Colombian has an entirely new outfit for Christmas, call the "estren."
Once it's obvious she'll accept cash, ask her "Cuanto necesitas. " That's a gentler way of saying "how much are you selling your pussy for. " Then you find her comfort zone. If she starts talking big numbers, throw down my trademarked response, "Siempre pago" followed by something more reasonable. Maybe lead it with a "lo siento. " Then tag a "pero te entiendo, eres muy hermosa" at the end. "I'm sorry. I always pay (fill in the blank), but I understand you, you are very beautiful."
That should bring the price pretty close. Toss in a bit for taxi and you're probably on the way to another primal scream orgasm.
In additional, I was looking like a young hot shot in my neon shirt and 15% body fat LOL. I think she said let me give him a shot. But the return pic looks absolutely hot like she's really trying to get my financial attention. Told her I was getting something to eat chat later or another time. Translator bro. Don't listen to these nitwits that preach how spanish is so important. LOL
[QUOTE=Rextor;2509859]Can I ask, how exactly did this go down? Like, you just saw her, went up to her, and straight up asked for her number? I believe your spanish isn't great so what sorts of things did you even say to her to break the ice?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2509855]I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. I have porn on for mental back up. [/QUOTE]Kkkkk, thanks for the laugh.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2509582]Well said yet what do I do with the non-pro 10's I collected on SA. Elvis? Because I doubt I'll find them anywhere else. [/QUOTE]That is a nice problem to have right DC? LOL. You did it up right my man.
I was thinking about what we are looking for, and I decided there were like 4 stages. You have level 4 which is the scumbag level. Guys who do not pay for sex and take it or women who screw out of money and give nothing in return. You have level 1 which is marriage level type where men do not care how much the women take and women give themselves up sexually out of love.
Stage 3 is straight pay for sex. Stage 2 is where there is the basis for something outside of just the exchange of money for sex, and that is where you run into the FWB, sugar baby, GF types. One of the things Mr. E opened my eyes to is that it does not even have to be money. The problem with me is that I thought because I could not get that in the sex prison, it would be like that anywhere, and it is not.
The easier terms are: stage 1 are wife types, 2 are sugar babies / GFs, 3 are hookers, and 4 are teases.
When I was in Bogota, I saw three women from SA: a stage 2, a stage 4, and a stage 3 that I thought could be stage 2 but I decided later really was not. Then I saw the girl that I have a stage 1 relationship I met from SA long ago, and she lives in Medellin.
SA bills itself as stage 2 material but we all know that it is full of stage 3 and 4 women. Thing is that I have met stage 1 quality women from there. They are rare but they are there. I just do not think that is what most guys are going for. Most guys here probably want stage 3 or to a lesser degree stage 2.
If you look at the USA, most strippers are teases, stage 4 but occasionally you can get them to stage 3 hookers, and I have had a great time with that. Strippers make great hookers but getting them to the stage 2 sugar baby level was a disaster, and I assume, and I think wrongly that you could not convert a stage 3 woman into a stage 2 type women in other countries.
So DC, I had been in contact with a hooker and stripper in Colombia, and these were the two best women I had found from a sexual point of view, but they also seemed to have an air about them that separated them from the typical quick buck hooker types. When I invested more time and a little more money into them, there was a very positive response. My iron clad rule about not turning hookers / strippers into SBs may not be true in Colombia and if so, I am not sure what role SA has then outside of finding that rare level 1 type.
Thing when I say stuff like this is and it makes it seem like I am a push over. I have been with dozens in Santa Fe and strip clubs, maybe more, and these two were the only two where I even considered advancing to a stage 2. On top of that, I am always looking to upgrade my level 2 relationships, and that means cutting myself off from women time and money wise even if there are hard feelings, and I cut off three potential SBs this trip. Two of the women did not take it well.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2509864]Well how about a universal hola como estas?[/QUOTE]Well done, this is absolutely realistic for someone who can run street game, which BM has. She looks like a winner.
Similar thing happened to me in Cartagena, a girl walked into McDonalds's (megaculona) and was a hard 8 or 9 in my opinion.
I didn't know she was a pro when I met her (until realizing it much later). Actually, she had a gringo boyfriend living in Germany, who also had no idea that she was a pro.
Long story short, I got her for free 99. Only bad part was I had to wait at McDonalds all day, to wait for her Whatsapp text because my hotel didn't have working WiFi.
It was worth it though, one of the few times a girl left me with that dizzy feeling after bagging your ideal type of girl.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2509803]Is it harder on Cupid as well? Because there for the last almost 16 years I have found quality women with real jobs for long term relationships at 1/12 of that price. To me it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Maybe SA is like sitting at a table with a bib around your neck while the cooked fish is sat in front of you.[/QUOTE]It is funny you bring that up Mr. E. So the three women I met from SA on the trip were 9's and 10's right? The first two were models in the five foot 9, 120 pound range with looong legs. When I went on Cupid, I saw nothing like that, and I think Cupid is where you look for the stage 1 wife type material.
So one of them is a tease, but the other fucked the shit out of me, and not only is she gorgeous she really likes me. She walks in the room and everyone is going to stare, and I got to know her body really well.
My Medellin wife type is not like that. She is short, compact, and more cute than hot. Thing is I like her body more to the touch. She is short, stronger with nicer skin. I also like the way she fucks more even though both are really good in bed. Even though I met her on SA, looks wise, I think you can find her type on Colombian cupid.
So I think what you get on SA you are not going to get on CC are the 10 hot model types. I have had three beauty queens from SA.
Thing is that it is not the exclusive refuge of hot women. On my trip I think the woman with the hottest body was Alejandra who works in the Paradise hotel across from La Piscina in Santa Fe from noon to 6 PM. I call her the chocolate bunny. She is as sweet as can be, gives a great massage, and she is built like a Jamaican track star. She is feminine with no body fat and is strong.
When I looked at CC, I saw 30 ish MILF types where some were cute. SA is the more refined and attractive 20 somethings looking for bigger $. The SA women may be more in demand from society but I would not call them better women.
Also, I thought the response rate from SA was better than CC. CC was overrun by Nigerian type scammers. It was pretty easy to figure them out which were legit women and which ones were not.
SA was just easier. The way I looked at it with SA, you pay with money. With CC, you pay with time.
Blakshot, I recognize the format of this post plus photos.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2509855]I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.[/QUOTE]