Hong Kong Club Reports

Remember to tie a 2 x 4 to your waist before diving in their huge and bottomless holes. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1727018]Don't ever underestimate a short little Asian guy!

But don't tempt me! I've already disclosed that I'm a Chubbie-virgin.[/QUOTE]

You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.

I have been going to Tijuana for 15 years, sometimes 2, 3 times a week, driving and walking, most times by myself, and have not been robbed or had my pocket lifted in all those years. OTOH I had been robbed at gun point in Hollywood, money stolen at LAX, wallet stolen by a pretty young girl in Manhattan. So Tijuana may well be safer than major US cities.

Back in about 2005 I was stopped and shaken down a few times by policia, but I never gave them anything, and they just let me go.

In my personal experiences, Tijuana is definitely safer than downtown LOS Angeles, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paolo, Bangkok, Phuket, Manila, Jakarta, Hanoi, HCMC, Chong Ping, Guang Zhou and other big cities.

Tijuana's downtown and tourist areas are safe in the daytime. At night, limit walking to around the bars and clubs on Coahuila. Just don't walk alone at night into dark alleys where druggies may hide out to rob anyone. Carry small amount of cash and an ATM card with $500 or $1000 limit to minimize potential losses.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1726740]Talks of shakedowns are overblown especially if you're not the foot explorer type which you don't seem to be. HK pickups are available in theory if you're a VIP member which you don't seem to be.

Go. Have fun. Take your cash and passport with you. Leave the Credit cards home. If you want to truly enjoy, sample the food, the beer, the dancing. Do more than just monger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1727017]Great list of tourist ideas. Do you normally just walk to these areas from LZ (if within walking distance) or cab it everywhere?[/QUOTE]I do a good amount of walking in LZ and Centro, but I typically don't walk south of 9th street, north of Baja California, east of Madero or west of Martinez (where the weekend swap meet is conducted). On most trips to LZ the farthest I walk outside LZ is to the swap meet or down Revo to about 4th street looking for the one carton of cigarettes I bring back with me on every trip. I don't smoke cigarettes myself, but at $27 to $30 a carton from most of the Revo street vendors, I know many people in the OC that appreciate me picking up a carton for them.

I have older cars and drive them into Tijuana. I park at HDS or Leyva when I stay at those hotels, or at Pepe's when I'm staying at Cascades or other Zona hotels. When I go to Tijuana I stay at hotels in LZ, but I drive all over Tijuana and occasionally to Ensenada. Plaza Rio, the Mercado Hildago and the gastronomic district are too far IMO to pleasantly walk to from LZ. When I drive outside of LZ my quasi-wingman usually tags along since he is usually happy to get out of LZ for an hour or two. He comes in handy a lot of the time since he speaks fluent Spanish. My Spanish sucks.

A couple more tourist places in Tijuana: if you have kids, its a good idea to take them to Mundo Divertivo. It's pretty far from LZ, maybe 8 to 10 miles. It's a kid's orientated amusement park, sort of like a large Boomers.

Another fun place to spend half a day is Parke Morales. QW and I took a couple of LZ chicas there in my car two or three years ago. It is a very large park with a few food vendors and a few carnival type rides. We went and had a picnic, like hundreds of other couples were doing there. Parke Morales also contains a small free admission zoo.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1727033]You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.
[/QUOTE]Hey Captain, nice to see you in the Alley last Saturday night! I will be there next week Wed-Sun, look me up.

Yea, I just got pulled over in my car last night. They just wanted to know where I was going, where I was coming from, and was I drinking. All good and they let me go. Nothing to be scared about.

Very nice seeing you in the alley. I hope to hooked up with that chica you were waiting for. Tell us all about her.

I think you spend lots of time in Tijuana, a lot more than guys I know, dealing with bar girls, street girls, escorts, policias etc. You have a lot of good info that could help us interpret what Tijuana is all about and deal with it. I wish you would post a lot more so we can dissect, enjoy and learn from your boots-on-the-ground experiences.

I bought Cosco's Mexico driver insurance, only $100 a year. I have been driving all over Tijuana, exploring. Traffic is slow and orderly. I had no problems.

Please post more of your raw info in Tijuana. I know you well enough to trust your info are reliable. We can use your info to enjoy Tijuana more.

[QUOTE=China69;1727191]Hey Captain, nice to see you in the Alley last Saturday night! I will be there next week Wed-Sun, look me up.

Yea, I just got pulled over in my car last night. They just wanted to know where I was going, where I was coming from, and was I drinking. All good and they let me go. Nothing to be scared about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1727033]You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.

I have been going to Tijuana for 15 years, sometimes 2, 3 times a week, driving and walking, most times by myself, and have not been robbed or had my pocket lifted in all those years. OTOH I had been robbed at gun point in Hollywood, money stolen at LAX, wallet stolen by a pretty young girl in Manhattan. So Tijuana may well be safer than major US cities.

Back in about 2005 I was stopped and shaken down a few times by policia, but I never gave them anything, and they just let me go.

In my personal experiences, Tijuana is definitely safer than downtown LOS Angeles, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paolo, Bangkok, Phuket, Manila, Jakarta, Hanoi, HCMC, Chong Ping, Guang Zhou and other big cities.

Tijuana's downtown and tourist areas are safe in the daytime. At night, limit walking to around the bars and clubs on Coahuila. Just don't walk alone at night into dark alleys where druggies may hide out to rob anyone. Carry small amount of cash and an ATM card with $500 or $1000 limit to minimize potential losses.[/QUOTE]Captain. I have to agree with you on this! I too feel that Tijuana gets a bad rap. I have been (and lived) in many large cities. Tijuana is not that bad. My amiga says that American's are afraid to come to Mexico because of the cartels and the killings. Well shit happens everywhere. I was shot at in Miami. I went through RIOTS in Miami and LA. I have seen more pure cocaine from Columbia than any cartel in Mexico. AS anywhere you need to keep your head and be careful. But to be afraid to travel is a shame, and to those who shit their pants easily- they should STAY HOME!

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1726749]
4. Hang out at bars and clubs on Revolucion and Calle 4 to see how young Tijuana people party. Try Las Pulgas, a popular club on Revolucion, and let big, fat, old Mexicanas hit on you. Hehe. Well, I did find a few angelic-looking young chicas party and dance here.

5. Try a few restaurants outside of La Zona Norte, as reported in this forum. Ask your favorite chub or street girls to take you to their favorite restaurants, or hit the places recommended by a food-tour company in San Diego.

6. Take a collectivo from Ave Negrete to Rosarito Beach, only costs a few bucks. Take your favorite putas to Potpola or Puerto Nuevo fishing villages for lobster and possible subsequent sex on the beach.[/QUOTE]Honestly. How much of this have you actually done? (That's a rhetorical question). More to the point, why would you suggest to a newbie something you know nothing about, or things that are just patently ridiculous?

When did you go to a bar on 4th and Revu, buy a bucket and have Mexican chicks, fat or otherwise, hit on you? We'll ignore the fact that there are no clubs on 4th near Revu. Have you ever been to Las Pulgas on a Saturday? (Again, rhetorical because you don't leave the safety of Coahuila at night). At night there is a line down the block of young girls dressed in stiletto heels and club wear waiting to get inside. There's a line because the place is already packed with bunches just like them.

Have you been to Popotla? Sex on the beach? Somebody may actually take you seriously, and boy will they be in for a disappointment.

Dude, stick to what you know.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1727234]Honestly. How much of this have you actually done? (That's a rhetorical question). More to the point, why would you suggest to a newbie something you know nothing about, or things that are just patently ridiculous?

When did you go to a bar on 4th and Revu, buy a bucket and have Mexican chicks, fat or otherwise, hit on you? We'll ignore the fact that there are no clubs on 4th near Revu. Have you ever been to Las Pulgas on a Saturday? (Again, rhetorical because you don't leave the safety of Coahuila at night). At night there is a line down the block of young girls dressed in stiletto heels and club wear waiting to get inside. There's a line because the place is already packed with bunches just like them.

Have you been to Popotla? Sex on the beach? Somebody may actually take you seriously, and boy will they be in for a disappointment.

Dude, stick to what you know.[/QUOTE]From your history of Quotes over the years, you do not venture out of the "safety" of La Zona at night! God forbid walking past Primera to get to Centro. Las Pulgas is PACKED with HOT / YOUNG local senioritas on a weekend!

I went to these clubs a few times, partying with my wing men and the guys posting on the other site.

I don't recommend newbies to walk off Coahuila's pussy block at night by themselves. However, I have walked and driven on Revolution and Constitution many times at night, 8 or 9 PM when there are still lots of people on the street. I would never recommend walking that area later at night when the good people went home and only criminals stayed behind.

There may be a few young, attractive girls at Las Pulgas, but they party with their young friends. It's hard to break into their parties. Even if you mange to break in, you would waste your whole night playing their little games and not guaranteed pussy at the end.

At least when I was there, Las Pulgas had many older, unattractive women, some even disgustingly obese, sitting by themselves with their buckets, giving everyone their inviting eyes. Guys who can tolerate old, ugly women could pick them up and fuck them for free if they can muster up their courage.

Everything is possible in these clubs, but I prefer the high probability of quick, successive scoring with many good-looking chicas in La Zona. Why waste time and money and insult your good taste with these old, ugly women?

[QUOTE=GolfSexRroll;1727300]From your history of Quotes over the years, you do not venture out of the "safety" of La Zona at night! God forbid walking past Primera to get to Centro. Las Pulgas is PACKED with HOT / YOUNG local senioritas on a weekend![/QUOTE]

I know a few guys who spend a lot of time in Tijuana, some speak fluent Spanish, and personally know a lot putas and people who run restaurants and hotels in La Zona.

These guys have a lot of good info and lots of interesting stories to tell. However, they are reluctant to post because a few guys, who think they know everything, would make groundless accusations and call them liars for anything outside of their knowledge. That creates a lot of friction, anger and resentment.

If these guy don't know something, it does not mean it did not happen. If they cannot achieve something, it does not mean others cannot do it, more like they are just too old, rude, stupid to do it.

You can argue facts with your own facts, but don't call others liars unless you have clear proof. That is just very stupid and rude ways to deal with people.

Big liars are always assuming others are also lying.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1727314]I went to these clubs a few times, partying with my wing men and the guys posting on the other site.

I don't recommend newbies to walk off Coahuila's pussy block at night by themselves. However, I have walked and driven on Revolution and Constitution many times at night, 8 or 9 PM when there are still lots of people on the street. I would never recommend walking that area later at night when the good people went home and only criminals stayed behind.

There may be a few young, attractive girls at Las Pulgas, but they party with their young friends. It's hard to break into their parties. Even if you mange to break in, you would waste your whole night playing their little games and not guaranteed pussy at the end.

At least when I was there, Las Pulgas had many older, unattractive women, some even disgustingly obese, sitting by themselves with their buckets, giving everyone their inviting eyes. Guys who can tolerate old, ugly women could pick them up and fuck them for free if they can muster up their courage.

Everything is possible in these clubs, but I prefer the high probability of quick, successive scoring with many good-looking chicas in La Zona. Why waste time and money and insult your good taste with these old, ugly women?[/QUOTE]From your lips to Gods ears, perfectly said!

The Tall Man.

I appreciate your understanding.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1728671]From your lips to Gods ears, perfectly said!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out. My really problem is the girls. They are asking 80 for a half hour and 100 l for an hour and you pay about 20 for the room so that's 100 a pop. Seem expensive for a 3rd world country. The other things was that there seems to be a shortage of really hot girls. Once you seem them the next morning you are like dam wtf was I thinging. Most HK girls are very fair skin with implants but not really hot. As a Vip member if you go on a Sunday to Wednesday you only pay 25 a night. They will put you up on a higher floor with where many of the girls live while working at HK. The really benefit is you see them coming in and getting ready. Thry are often willing to negotiate because it's off time and bonus money. The bad is you see then in the morning with no make up in the day light and they don't look so hot. Seems like HK is getting expensive and the quality is dropping. I wish there was a way we could make the girls realize money is the scarce commodity. Brought a drink for an old friend and she said that she that 100 was a good value since guys in the US pay 300 at home. It is what it is but Tijuana is starting to feel like a rip off. You are probably better off flying somewhere else for a few days. 2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room. 3rd Avoid all of the guys approaching you. They don't actually have an hookups. 4th. The waiters are annoying. 5th. HK is renovating the bar so one of them is closed. 6th If you are going to take a girl, take a club girl. It just really seems like the quality at HK has gone down and the price has gone up. Would be nice of quality matched price. Just a personal opinion but I think as the world economy improves all the pretty girls will find better lines of work and pay for play will decline. Just look at the last five years. Save your money and go to the Phillipines or Colombia and spend a few days doing it right.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;1729819]Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out. My really problem is the girls. They are asking 80 for a half hour and 100 l for an hour and you pay about 20 for the room so that's 100 a pop. Seem expensive for a 3rd world country. The other things was that there seems to be a shortage of really hot girls. Once you seem them the next morning you are like dam wtf was I thinging. Most HK girls are very fair skin with implants but not really hot. As a Vip member if you go on a Sunday to Wednesday you only pay 25 a night. They will put you up on a higher floor with where many of the girls live while working at HK. The really benefit is you see them coming in and getting ready. Thry are often willing to negotiate because it's off time and bonus money. The bad is you see then in the morning with no make up in the day light and they don't look so hot. Seems like HK is getting expensive and the quality is dropping. I wish there was a way we could make the girls realize money is the scarce commodity. Brought a drink for an old friend and she said that she that 100 was a good value since guys in the US pay 300 at home. It is what it is but Tijuana is starting to feel like a rip off. You are probably better off flying somewhere else for a few days. 2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room. 3rd Avoid all of the guys approaching you. They don't actually have an hookups. 4th. The waiters are annoying. 5th. HK is renovating the bar so one of them is closed. 6th If you are going to take a girl, take a club girl. It just really seems like the quality at HK has gone down and the price has gone up. Would be nice of quality matched price. Just a personal opinion but I think as the world economy improves all the pretty girls will find better lines of work and pay for play will decline. Just look at the last five years. Save your money and go to the Phillipines or Colombia and spend a few days doing it right.[/QUOTE]Wait, we are reliably informed, by some Captain, that the Zona Norte is the safest place in Tijuana and that you should never leave it after 9 PM. And that HK girls are model quality. I think you must be thinking of the wrong Tijuana.

But, seriously, HK girls really are no bargain these days. And it's true that as the economies of other places improves, the girls find other lines of work.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;1729819]Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out.[/QUOTE]The shootout this Wednesday afternoon was very bad, one guy killed and two others wounded. I believe this happened near Primera & Constitution.

On Tuesday night a Tijuana Policia was shot & killed. So yes, there is going to be a lot more Policia presence in LZ.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;1729819]2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room.[/QUOTE]The key with street girls is to know what you want ahead of time, and then negotiating the details on the sidewalk before taking her into the room. You can't always eliminate all problems, but it helps minimize them. It's always better to deal with them on the sidewalk, where you have the upper hand vs. In the room, where they have some advantages.