Lisbon

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2715564]The only report ever of a hotel problem was when a poster who admitted he was drunk tries to bring an equally drunk Hooker through the lobby late at night.

What you need to understand is that Lisbon does not have prostitution as far as hotels and apartments are concerned. And few hotels even have doormen. The sex worker either comes up to your room and knocks, or if an elevator keycard is required, you just meet her in the lobby and head up the elevator together. I did this at midnight once at the Clarion right in front of the tiny lobby and truly no one cares.

Portugal and Spain are simply nothing like South America in this regard. They have a common language with South America and there are some good South American restaurants, but your hotel room in Iberia is your hotel room. You are allowed to have unregistered guests, and there is zero assumption that any lady is a sex worker.

I asked EP for a friend who stays in Airbnb's if they have had problems with Airbnb's and they said no, there have been no problems. Of course the Airbnb guest might get a bad internal Airbnb review if the room is in the lessor's house and a hot young girl comes over for an hour or so, showering twice. Or the lessor might put her on his to-see list.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!

Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?

[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715860]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!

Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?[/QUOTE]I usually stay using loyalty in the western chain hotels which are mostly on a long, boring stretch of road that is just a little too far to walk to touristy areas. There are some Holiday Inns that are closer to tourist attractions and they are nicer than the typical USA Holiday Inns. A few times I have stayed in "local Portuguese" hotels and they have better locations. But there is no difference with respect to outcall. There is no "red light" area of Lisbon, like there is in some cities worldwide.

Unless you get some particular enjoyment from a pick-up, I wouldn't bother with it. From a standpoint of true Hooker clubs, there are a couple of late night ones that serve liquor and meals, but they are more expensive than escorts. And in fact on the local board, many local guys who have been there assert that it is in fact the known escorts who drop by in a nice dress to see if they can get a free meal, a few drinks, and a very expensive booking from a "club guy" who is usually a foreign tourist or a foreign businessman.

Portuguese women are pretty damn straightforward about sex work. There have been many positive reports with respect to Seeking Arrangement for Lisbon, so if you want to whole song and dance routine of taking a lady to dinner and getting the satisfaction of being in the 90-95 percent of her customers who she has GFE sex with afterwards, that is an option if you want to join Seeking Arrangement and exchange a lot of messages. You could get the same experience, with a 100 percent chance of sex afterward, by booking a long session with playboy bunny type outcall escort Carolina Belmont.

As far as true pick-ups from non-Hooker bars, or in the general populace, I am inclined to say no, with an even stronger no if you are older and don't speak Portuguese. Another thing that guys who spend a lot of time in South America or the Philippines need to understand about Europe (excluding the Ukraine) is that there is zero interest among the women in moving to the United States. Even now, the former "mall girls" of Mexico, South America and the Philippines have largely moved to the Seeking Arrangement format. There was of course a time in which an impoverished young lady with a service level job in an impoverished country would take a small chance of making a large profit by dating and appearing to immediately fall in love with an American tourist who flirted with her. The guys who took advantage of this without properly compensating her for the sex were called butterflies. I think you could walk the bars and malls of Lisbon flirting with women and completely strike out. The hookers advertise on Escort Privada, Apartadox, Portal Privado, etc. Some ladies who do sex work but don't want to advertise on those sites are on seeking arrangement. The women working civilian jobs don't want to be approached by tourists for sex. Of course most of the EP and Apartadox ladies are students, or have civilian jobs, but they keep those parts of their lives separate.

[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715860]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!

Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?[/QUOTE]Anna Balthazar (portalprivado) and Carolina Belmont (Apartadox) are both former EP girls who now work indie. Both are great and I can vouch for them personally, but Carolina this year and Anna from late 2020.

Most of the girls you see advertising on the photo-verified sites will do outcall, although they charge a rate that is not worth it for it.

Most of the roster on EP are part-timers in any event.

Past that as outcall goes, you are looking at clubs (which I avoid and consider grossly overpriced) or sugar babies. In terms of the latter, most don't realize just who exactly it is they are competing against, so again, overpriced.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2715915]I usually stay using loyalty in the western chain hotels which are mostly on a long, boring stretch of road that is just a little too far to walk to touristy areas. There are some Holiday Inns that are closer to tourist attractions and they are nicer than the typical USA Holiday Inns. A few times I have stayed in "local Portuguese" hotels and they have better locations. But there is no difference with respect to outcall. There is no "red light" area of Lisbon, like there is in some cities worldwide.

Unless you get some particular enjoyment from a pick-up, I wouldn't bother with it. From a standpoint of true Hooker clubs, there are a couple of late night ones that serve liquor and meals, but they are more expensive than escorts. And in fact on the local board, many local guys who have been there assert that it is in fact the known escorts who drop by in a nice dress to see if they can get a free meal, a few drinks, and a very expensive booking from a "club guy" who is usually a foreign tourist or a foreign businessman.

Portuguese women are pretty damn straightforward about sex work. There have been many positive reports with respect to Seeking Arrangement for Lisbon, so if you want to whole song and dance routine of taking a lady to dinner and getting the satisfaction of being in the 90-95 percent of her customers who she has GFE sex with afterwards, that is an option if you want to join Seeking Arrangement and exchange a lot of messages. You could get the same experience, with a 100 percent chance of sex afterward, by booking a long session with playboy bunny type outcall escort Carolina Belmont..[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to give me a realistic view of Lisbon, I can't wait to give it a shot!

[QUOTE=VincentVegas22;2704931]Hi, I know this is my first post here but this board was very helpful to me in my recent trip so I wanted to give a review of someone I saw discussed here. Mia Tavares.

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Maybe your experiences would be better. Just men directly. But she did advertise couples and I was trying to make it easy on her but I would not recommend.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I can confirm this 100%.

When I met her first months ago, she was almost new in that business, of course shy, only very few tattoos. But in the last few months, her service lacked more and more and all the mentioned examples in the above post are true.

She is a nice and sweet one, but unfortunately she smokes a lot, and for that money she get, she has to provide more and better service (like others from EP do). E. g in her ads she offers CIM + COF, but neither she accepts.

I hope that she will become better in future, if not, she won't have many repeating customers.

A lot of updates to make, and thanks everyone for the great reviews and input.

In post 4134, I listed the EP ladies with good reviews.

Obviously, Mia Tavares needs to be stricken from the list.

But Valeria Diaz and Mariana Amaral should be added to the recommended list.

A trusted reviewer on the local board, who has given 9's out of 10 to several independents recommended here was displeased with both Iris Simões and Madalena Duque, primarily based on looks and body, but he indicated that Madalena Duque was CBJ only despite her advertisement.

Just as importantly, a whole bunch of Lisbon reviews appeared on the big American review board, and they were favorable.

The same reviewer gave Carolina Belmont a 9 for looks and an 8 for performance, gave Diana Real an 8 and an 8, Ines the independent an 8 and a 9.

The reviewer said that Ines reminded him of Lindsay Lohan. All were confirmed as BBBJ, with CIM mentioned for Carolina Belmont and Ines. He seemed very pleased with his Lisbon encounters.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]

A completely different reviewer did threesomes on separate occasions with Marta Castro and Joana Montenegro.

Marta Castro was given an 8 for looks and a 9 for performance, complimented her regarding DFK and BBBJ and her athletic physique, and it was noted that she was friendly and gave them tips regarding tourism.

Joana Montenegro was given an 8 and an 8 with similar compliments as Marta. It was noted that she is genuinely friendly and has nice see Cup breasts. The previous review of Joana on that board complimented her English skills and also gave her an 8 and an 8.

Joana has now received favorable reviews on several different review boards. Both Marta and Joanna advertise CIM, and nothing in the reviews suggested that was not available.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

A reviewer on the big American review board did a favorable review of Jade of Delirio Spa.

There was no sex during the session, but he said that Jade was a beautiful older teen who gave an excellent erotic massage with a hand job finish and that she allowed him to finger her.

[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/jade-nacionalidade-portuguesa/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZoinksJax;2708358]Not exactly night, but what a fun time. Won't go into too much detail, but here goes:

I had a dream that I went to Lisbon on my way back the USA last week.

In the dream, I went to Delirio Spa and saw Dafne. First of all, if you want a specific girl, insist on setting a time and date with her. I initially wanted to see Yasmin, but ran into that problem. They showed me the other girls and I got a great vibe from Dafne and went with her (versus waiting). Dafne is gorgeous and has great energy. Won't go into too much detail (you can PM me if you want to know more, FYI I'm only on every few days), but suffice it to say I enjoyed it and would repeat even though what was spent (7) was more for what I normally get.

[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/dafne-nacionalidade-brasileira/[/URL]

Went home and rested (it was quite the session) and then had set up time with Anair. Went to her incall location and she is amazingly beautiful. Tiny, smooth skin, love the tattoos and piercings (which are totally my thing). Her attitude is engrossing. Ended up spending an hour and a half with her (8, I know expensive, but I was in paradise). No feeling of being rushed. Would definitely repeat.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/anair/183961/?list=l3btk5[/URL][/QUOTE]

Burn out is a typical problem with the trade, unfortunately. The problem being many of the burned out ladies stuck with it. Compounding this, they either bring substance abuse issues with them and those become worse or develop them, in tandem with the burn out.

This is something you can see physically with the reported slide of ladies like Nicole Forte / Monica Melo, Julia Nobrega and Mia Tavares.

[QUOTE=Nitro2000;2716650]Unfortunately, I can confirm this 100%.

When I met her first months ago, she was almost new in that business, of course shy, only very few tattoos. But in the last few months, her service lacked more and more and all the mentioned examples in the above post are true.

She is a nice and sweet one, but unfortunately she smokes a lot, and for that money she get, she has to provide more and better service (like others from EP do). E. g in her ads she offers CIM + COF, but neither she accepts.

I hope that she will become better in future, if not, she won't have many repeating customers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716825]A lot of updates to make, and thanks everyone for the great reviews and input.

In post 4134, I listed the EP ladies with good reviews.


The same reviewer gave Carolina Belmont a 9 for looks and an 8 for performance, gave Diana Real an 8 and an 8, Ines the independent an 8 and a 9.

The reviewer said that Ines reminded him of Lindsay Lohan. All were confirmed as BBBJ, with CIM mentioned for Carolina Belmont and Ines. He seemed very pleased with his Lisbon encounters.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Well, with Carolina Belmont, I cannot agree.

I met her few weeks ago, and. Well. Tastes are different (and this is good), but for me she was max. A 7 for looks and a 5 for performance.

But the most annoying point with her was, that she really refused a second round, even she confirmed in earlier messages.

Her reasoning was, that I needed too long for the first round and that she gave me a massage after.

Okeeeey. For the first round I took my time and enjoyed about 20 min, and after that she gave me a massage for about 15 min. And that was it.

She said, that most of her clients are finishing after 2 min and than it is ok for her for a second round.

Uhm. Yeah. Ok.

So after about 45 min, I said goodbye to her (and will not repeat).

Other ladies from EP offered a better performance. With 2-3 rounds per 1 hour session.

For some unknown reason Bianca Pereira changed her name to Adriana Santos.

It has been confirmed on the local board by someone who saw her and gave her a very good review.

She has been reviewed and recommended on several ISG posts.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Santos-6642.html[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]

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The local board recently identified Escort Privada girl Rita Campos as a rottie who has gone by at least three different names in the past couple of years. So, she joins Mafalda Melo / Monica Melo / Nicole Forte in trying to use a handle change to ditch a bad reputation.

Other EP girls who have gotten recent, mediocre reviews include Vera Guerra, Mia Tavares, Eva Santos, Julia Nobrega, and Iris Simoes.

Basically, there as many good girls as bads or unknowns at the present time -- several of each.

So, about this one -- well, you are the first guy I have seen going all the way back to her EP days to not give her top marks in the looks department. In fact, anything but a 8, 9 or 10 rating for Carolina would be news to me.

But there has been a little buzz that Carolina is asking some clients for 200/ HR now, up from 170. And sometimes for Uber atop that as well (is which is bunk -- she had a car, last I saw her).

IMO, 200 is too much. And I am dubious about a girl that does only outcall and tries to bilk tourists, because haggling over this sort of thing just leaves everyone concerned feeling sour about it. And anyone doing outcall only is dealing mostly with visiting clients -- people who already have a room. Locals deal mostly with incall; the locals board is full of griping about EP and paying for a room and then paying 150 on top of that.

So if I call her again and it's not the same rate as last time, nope! There are ladies doing outcall for much less and who are very nearly as good.

[QUOTE=Nitro2000;2717287]Well, with Carolina Belmont, I cannot agree.

I met her few weeks ago, and. Well. Tastes are different (and this is good), but for me she was max. A 7 for looks and a 5 for performance.

But the most annoying point with her was, that she really refused a second round, even she confirmed in earlier messages.

Her reasoning was, that I needed too long for the first round and that she gave me a massage after.

Okeeeey. For the first round I took my time and enjoyed about 20 min, and after that she gave me a massage for about 15 min. And that was it.

She said, that most of her clients are finishing after 2 min and than it is ok for her for a second round.

Uhm. Yeah. Ok.

So after about 45 min, I said goodbye to her (and will not repeat).

Other ladies from EP offered a better performance. With 2-3 rounds per 1 hour session.[/QUOTE]

This is an excellent review and summary I came across today from a United Kingdom review board that was done by an experienced reviewer.

The independent gem Karla Ferraz doesn't have an active ad, but that doesn't mean she won't come back.

A takeaway from the report is Yes, Escort Privada is hit and miss, but there are ladies who are constant and consistent hits.

In fact Maria Conceicao of Escort Privada just received an extremely favorable mention on the local board from a guy who promised a full review. She is clearly young, hot and likes to fuck.

Maria has now received at least eight extremely favorable reviews on multiple boards from experienced reviewers.

And Valeria Diaz who is reviewed favorably in the review below is also mentioned favorably here on ISG.

So the key is picking correctly, which is why we have review boards.

Here is the review post copied from the you. K. Site's International Section, which was done in 2022.

"Concluded a trip to Lisbon some weeks ago. Total score: six girls, mix of girls from escort privada and apartadox. All outcalls to my hotel. Will add to this post as I go along.

In general the 150 euro per hour flat rate for outcalls made me enthusiastic to book in as many as possible. But my schedule only gave me at most one window a day for a booking. Additionally alcohol impairs my performance, so sometime the meetings would end without me finishing. Which I'm not particularly annoyed about, but want to avoid where I can.

1. Flavia Lima and Pureza, escort privada.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/pureza-vilar/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flavia-lima/[/URL]

Decided to kick off with a bang. Flavia was on my hotlist but pureza had been slated in reviews on ISG so I was wary. But no one else was available that flavia could bring. Comms easy through WhatsApp, good english. Came to my room door no problem. Two hour duo booking was supposed to be a fuck fest. Instead let down by lacklustre service from pureza. Flavia was very hot, typical curvy Brazilian body with a few tattoos. Blonde, great skin. Probably mid or early 20's. Great GFE service from her. Very pretty face. Brazilian not Portuguese. Services were vanilla GFE but delivered well. Pureza had an average face, indeed a massive bottom half, and is probably early 20's. All fine, except service was terrible. Offered rimming and anal but half hearted rimming and used her hands to block penetration. I told her to leave after the first hour in fact. Continued to fuck flavia for another hour. Made plans to see her again but comms and availability was spotty. My idea was to cultivate her for a duo once I find another good girl.

2. Sofia Andrade, Escort Privada.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sofia-andrade/[/URL]

Arranged on short notice. Fancied a skinny Portuguese girl after the meat fest of Flavia and Pureza. Sofia was certainly skinny with pert tits and a relatively peachy butt. But her presentation and service was generally terrible. Unshaved, rough skin, bad teeth, and generally not very enthusiastic. We ended the hour with me wanking myself off into her mouth and eating her tits.

3. Maria Conceicao, Escort Privada.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]

Arranged a day or so in advanc. Great comms and English. Works at a luxury hotel as a day job and is relatively low volume. Very chatty, sparkly personality. Great perky tits and puffy nips. Her tits were probably see cups but incredibly firm. Totally natural. Cute face rather than pretty. But nice plump lips and big brown eyes. Excellent, really top notch DFK and owo. Lots of tongue and saliva. She was very complimentary and remarked that she was getting very wet as I started eating her tits. "Oh, you're going to make me very wet". I was expecting a multi orgasmic session but weirdly she was very quiet and seemingly unresponsive during penetration. Very nice GFE. Planned to see again but didn't have time.

4. Valeria Diaz, Escort Privada.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valeria-diaz/[/URL]

Decided to go for experience over youth this time. I liked the look of Valeria's big, stiff, nipples and she looks like she keeps herself in shape. Arranged to meet on shortish notice (as usual), she needed a bit of reassuring as she was coming from cascais. Works in a clinic or spa as a day job and has two kids. Tight and trim body, probably in her late 30's or early 40's. Enhanced see or the cups that suited her. All well presented except possibly for her teeth which weren't great. Face was average to below average, looks a little older in the face than her body, if that makes sense. She shines on service and enthusiasm. Quite insatiable appetite. She brought an extra set of lingerie unrequested. Stripped off her blue body playsuit and I took her balanced on a big footstool in the hotel room. Petite girl on all fours with my cock angled downwards into her pussy. Very vocally liked it. Then took her to mish, semi-prone bone (with her legs on the ground and stomach on the bed), doggy and all the usual. Finished pounding her in spoons. Another note I'll add is all the girls do OWO as a matter of course. Great service and a reliable fuck. Slightly more PSE than GFE I suppose, but nothing extreme.

5. Karla Ferraz, Apartadox.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Karla-Ferraz-6097.html[/URL]

Karla was my gem. Ended up seeing her three times: two two-hour sessions and an overnight. Decided to trawl Apartadox after several unsatisfying Escort Privada encounters. None of the really hot Portuguese girls seemed to be replying, so I decided to go Brazilian.

Get Karla up into my room on the first meet, she asks if she can have a shower. Immediately starts stripping out of her civvies. Absolutely stunning on all aspects. Medium caramel skinned Brazilian from Porto Allegre. Bikini tan lines. Less than a month in Lisbon. Gorgeous plump lips and liquid, dark brown, almond eyes. Thick black hair. Hint of abs, tight and toned ass and thighs. No jiggle anywhere. Silky smooth skin. Yes this sounds fluffy, but I put my money where my mouth is LOL.

Service was perfect GFE with a slight kinky twist. As she got in the shower I was about to join her when she calls out, "are you coming? Music to my ears! In the shower with my back to her she reaches around for my dick and gently starts to massage it, unprompted. Brought to mind some of the great showers I've had with girls in Hong Kong.

Other highlights: generally great, sloppy OWO. Usually provided unprompted. She couldn't seem to get enough of the dick. Any time her mouth wasn't in DFK it was with my dick or balls in it. Face fucking in all positions, she hardly gagged. She also provided enthusiastic rimming and prostate massage. She had a bottle of baby oil in her bag and gave me a long massage once, during which she rimmed me for about 10 minutes straight. Incredible stuff.

Also extremely multi orgasmic -- maybe we were a good match. She could cum 4-5 times per session, whether from my fingers, tongue or penetration. In doggy crouched on top of the stool she would cry out in Portuguese as I pounded her from behind. Tongue lightly flicking on her clit would also get her bucking and moaning in no time.

Overall, just couldn't get enough of her. Almost booked her a fourth time but was simply too busy. She says she is planning to come to London next year, I hope I have a chance to see her.

In all, I think Lisbon represents incredible value for money. You get a selection of really hot girls at 150 euros an hour. I paid 500 euros for the overnight with Karla (although she may have given me a discount as I saw her twice already, and tipped her). I think Portuguese women are stunning and I do love a good Brazilian, so overall I have absolutely no complaints about the quality of girls there. All the girls are also tend to be naturally slim and curvaceous, much fewer of the pumped up and siliconised dolls in London. Perfect for a relaxed, multi-hour GFE, which is my preferred format. ".

And this was from that same reviewer on the United Kingdom board from late 2019, so the review is a few years old.

Most of the ladies he reviewed are gone now, but Joana Montenegro remains, and as I mentioned before, she has excellent reviews on four different review boards. Here is what he had to say about Joana:

"finally there's [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL].

Tall light-skinned black girl with big natural hair. Absolutely stunning body. Long limbs, natural, heavy hanging the cups or bigger, with huge stiff nipples. Big, shapely ass. And absolutely loves being dominated with heavy spanking, choking, and orgasm denial. Offers DFK, CIM, excellent rimming but no anal or anal play. Saw her twice for a total of three hours all in at Eur 450. Good comms, perfect English, but can be disorganised and scattered. Well worth it, in my view. Genuinely sweet girl who works at a hotel front desk and is doing this for extra cash for her ill mother. But she also seems to love it. Extracted several loud shuddering orgasms from her as she wailed to be slammed harder.

Overall EP has lived up to my already high expectations after using them once a couple of years ago. I did see many lukewarm reviews on ISG so was wary, but now I think EP in Lisbon has the best quality to price ratio of any agency I've used. It does help that Lisbon just seems packed with beautiful girls with stunning bodies. Really can't beat Portugese women. ".