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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2918725]Thank you for stating things with true clarity.
I am interested in hearing your opinion of why you think they are on beach road?[/QUOTE]Some of them have a day job. When they finish work, they go to Beach Road to make 1,000 baht before heading home to see their husband.
Right now, I'm in Pattaya for 1 week already and I confirm nobody use condoms now in Pattaya! Everyday I fuck 1 lady or sometimes 2, in Soi 6 or in bars in Soy Bukaho or in sex massages and ladies always let me fuck them bareback! 15 years I go Pattaya, most of the ladies know me I've great time with them and their friends and they never asked me to put a condom. Only few girls ask me to put a condom in order to get more money. Usually I give 500 bahts more and they always say yes for bareback!
Only 1 time a girl I know very well in Soi 6 was little bit jealous I fuck her friend in the same bar when she had a day off and she was little bit angry because her friend told her I fuck her bareback too. But finally after 2 drinks a another tip, we go in the room upstairs, we took again the shower together and she let me fuck her bareback again.
Some ladies told me in Pattaya, nowdays, all men want fuck bareback!
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2918694]Some guys won't go with girls even if wearing a condom because they know they have barebacked many guys. That's why I mentioned either with or without a condom. Some guys actually believe when girls tell them they don't go with many customers or believe when they say they have only gone BB with them and no other customers. The point is that if you are paranoid about the ladies not using condoms with customers before you then Pattaya is not there place for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MadDin19;2918884]Oh my Buddha, you are very afraid.
- Customers also complain about bar girls (I did a few times).
- Bar girls can be sick too. There is no medical check in bars.
- There are girls addicted to Jabba or Weed in every third or fourth bar (own experience).
- Minors work in every fourth or fifth bar (own experience).
- Bar girls don't steal? LOL.
Most of the girls on the beach are there because they simply don't have time to work at the bar from 6 pm to 3 am every day. Maybe because they have another job, maybe because they have a family or children, etc. They don't stand there every day but only when money is tight.[/QUOTE]If you lived here full time for moire than a few weeks I would hold some weight it what you say. However, I don't think you have any experience at all. Everything you say they come to be beach road to do can be achieved on Thai Friendly. I know Thai culture after 15 years in Thailand straight. I know that if a Thai girl goes onto the street, they are desperate. Why? Because it's not discrete at all. Yes, some bar girls steal too, but they know after the first time getting caught it's too dangerous. Why? Because the bar knows who they really are and the customer can go back to them. You hear more about guys getting ripped off from girls they meet on the street than with girls working in a bar or even a freelancer from an app. About the girls working on the street because they don't have the time? Hogwash. They can easily chat with guys on an app and meet after work. They don't have to work on the street for this reason. About being sick, if they visually look sick, the bar will question them and send them home for looking like shit. I have seen some pretty rough looking beach road girls. These beach road girls are also the ones that may agree to go with one ethnic group that will remain nameless that likes to offer 1000ST but for two guys and not one. Do you know any Thai girls that will willingly fuck 2 guys for 500 Baht ST each one after another in the same room that are not desperate? I don't.
With all due respect, you are completely wrong.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2918829]if I was on vacation here in Pattaya I would chose to stay central Pattaya. The travel time annoys me. I do not recommend Jomtien to 1st time visitors. Come check it out. But stay in the heard of the action for your first trip.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% Why would a first time visitor stay in Jomtien on a first visit to Pattaya? Stay in the heart of the action. Now if this was my 5th trip, I wanted to try something a bit different, and I rented a motorbike would I consider Jomtien. I personally enjoy Jomtien but to spend a few hours in the afternoon there not to stay there.
[QUOTE=Mjen1970;2918825]I stayed in Jomtien 2 weeks ago and the one way system on beach road makes getting about very difficult.[/QUOTE]Unless you live in Thailand or go on a trip to Pattaya area for at least a month, it makes no sense to stay in Jomtien. If you don't like the grind and traffic, stay right outside the central area where you can still easily access the baht bus or quick Bolt ride.
For me staying central is nice and convenient because I can walk everywhere and go back and forth from my room all day. I take multiple showers a day because it's so hot there so that's another positive.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2918926]Right now, I'm in Pattaya for 1 week already and I confirm nobody use condoms now in Pattaya! Everyday I fuck 1 lady or sometimes 2, in Soi 6 or in bars in Soy Bukaho or in sex massages and ladies always let me fuck them bareback! 15 years I go Pattaya, most of the ladies know me I've great time with them and their friends and they never asked me to put a condom. Only few girls ask me to put a condom in order to get more money. Usually I give 500 bahts more and they always say yes for bareback!
Only 1 time a girl I know very well in Soi 6 was little bit jealous I fuck her friend in the same bar when she had a day off and she was little bit angry because her friend told her I fuck her bareback too. But finally after 2 drinks a another tip, we go in the room upstairs, we took again the shower together and she let me fuck her bareback again.
Some ladies told me in Pattaya, nowdays, all men want fuck bareback![/QUOTE]Sounds like my kind of place.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2918806]Pros and cons. Convenience has a cost. If you want to drop some shopping bags off at your place, take a comfortable shit, or just go in to cool off a few minutes, 5 minutes round trip versus the over thirty for staying in Jomtien.
As far as cost of living, you definitely get more bang for your buck in Jomtien or the darkside, but if you are coming for holiday is a different animal. If I am going to New York City for holiday, would you recommend staying 20 minutes away in Hoboken, New Jersey because it is quieter and less busy?[/QUOTE]Nope if you are going on holiday to almost any city stay in the heart of it. You've paid for a City break. You want to see all the sights of the city, be able to wake up go for a stroll and feel the atmosphere of that City. Going to Pattaya / Jomtien could not be more different. At least 99% of those in this forum reading this will be going there for the mongering. But it's almost everywhere on the doorstep! My first 5 trips to Pattaya I stayed in town. Wave hotel on Beach Road, Hilton ditto, Somerset 2nd Road, Siam Siam to be close to Soi 6. Didn't much like any of them. Maybe Wave was decent due to its quirkiness and the rooftop pool at Hilton is nice though its gym is awfully small. Siam is tired and old but it's not really the point. My point is that the traffic has become intolerable in Pattaya. You talk of 5 minutes round trip. Not in any taxi it aint! I was advised by many "you don't want to stay out of the action", well, sorry, not correct. I won't list the positives of Jomtien over Pattaya as this would become a short essay. It's just cleaner, prettier, better beach, lovely coffee shops on Pratumnak Hill, better restaurants. And it's often 10 minutes away max on a bike or at the very worst 15 in a Bolt costing peanuts. Pattaya is not relaxing. It's mayhem. Great for a night out, fabulous if you are down at Wongamat Beach or beyond, but anywhere central is fine if you are young enough to monger morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night. For anyone over 45, my strong advice is stay on the fringe (and that's what Pratumnak / Jomtien are) - everything is on hand, you'll miss nothing and the transportation is quick and very cheap.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2918924]Some of them have a day job. When they finish work, they go to Beach Road to make 1,000 baht before heading home to see their husband.[/QUOTE]They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2919056]They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.[/QUOTE]They can do both as I earlier pointed out. The same as chicks in gogos, bars, massage parlors, salons arrange things on Thai Friendly. Nobody is forcing or even suggest you go with them. People are saying that just because you would not go with them is no reason to spread a false narrative about them. The people here with the least experience want to talk like they have the most. No way I am telling people a mile long list of the bad things about being in space when I have never been there. But people here that have never been around a chick from Beach Road know so much about them. Ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2919004]Sounds like my kind of place.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like a wishfull thinking, while I get it from some girls (when I push for it), some others make it very clear they prioritize their safety first and don't want to deal with unprotected sex.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2919056]They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.[/QUOTE]Yes. And the lady from Thai Friendly is of course not sick, not underage, not addicted to drugs and of course she doesn't steal either. LOL.
Everyone has their own business model and lives according to it, depending on their life circumstances.
Why do you condemn the ladies on the beach so vehemently and accuse them of being sick or addicted or whatever?
Some ladies prefer bars, others agogos, some prefer Thai Friendly or the beach. To each his own.
Can you tell me the positives of Jomtien. I am not 45 but I don't like crazy busy. I like to relax as much as possible.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2919041]Nope if you are going on holiday to almost any city stay in the heart of it. You've paid for a City break. You want to see all the sights of the city, be able to wake up go for a stroll and feel the atmosphere of that City. Going to Pattaya / Jomtien could not be more different. At least 99% of those in this forum reading this will be going there for the mongering. But it's almost everywhere on the doorstep! My first 5 trips to Pattaya I stayed in town. Wave hotel on Beach Road, Hilton ditto, Somerset 2nd Road, Siam Siam to be close to Soi 6. Didn't much like any of them. Maybe Wave was decent due to its quirkiness and the rooftop pool at Hilton is nice though its gym is awfully small. Siam is tired and old but it's not really the point. My point is that the traffic has become intolerable in Pattaya. You talk of 5 minutes round trip. Not in any taxi it aint! I was advised by many "you don't want to stay out of the action", well, sorry, not correct. I won't list the positives of Jomtien over Pattaya as this would become a short essay. It's just cleaner, prettier, better beach, lovely coffee shops on Pratumnak Hill, better restaurants. And it's often 10 minutes away max on a bike or at the very worst 15 in a Bolt costing peanuts. Pattaya is not relaxing. It's mayhem. Great for a night out, fabulous if you are down at Wongamat Beach or beyond, but anywhere central is fine if you are young enough to monger morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night. For anyone over 45, my strong advice is stay on the fringe (and that's what Pratumnak / Jomtien are) - everything is on hand, you'll miss nothing and the transportation is quick and very cheap.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MadDin19;2919142]Yes. And the lady from Thai Friendly is of course not sick, not underage, not addicted to drugs and of course she doesn't steal either. LOL.
Everyone has their own business model and lives according to it, depending on their life circumstances.
Why do you condemn the ladies on the beach so vehemently and accuse them of being sick or addicted or whatever?
Some ladies prefer bars, others agogos, some prefer Thai Friendly or the beach. To each his own.[/QUOTE]And of course they have never been in beach road. They all come from Hi-So, indulge on TF for the fun of it, as they are bored, and demand a payment to show they are not for cheap Charlie's ad they have a value, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Cbear13;2919150]Can you tell me the positives of Jomtien. I am not 45 but I don't like crazy busy. I like to relax as much as possible.[/QUOTE]Less air pollution. Hotel or condo likely to be better value for money. Riding a motorbike less risky than in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=XXL;2919194]Less air pollution. Hotel or condo likely to be better value for money. Riding a motorbike less risky than in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]The baht bus to Pattaya is only 20 baht, and runs all the time.