[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513130]As long as you got what you wanted is all that matters. Whether you paid 100 $ or 1000 $.[/QUOTE]More desperate words have never been uttered, google pyrrhic victory.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513130]As long as you got what you wanted is all that matters. Whether you paid 100 $ or 1000 $.[/QUOTE]More desperate words have never been uttered, google pyrrhic victory.
Hi All,
Been in Medellin for 8 days. Immigration was a breeze. Didn't download the app. Filled it out online, immigration didn't ask for it. There was a prefunctionary temperature check at the airport. I absentmindedly tried to walk through the red channel and the hurriedly waved me off to the green.
Been to Centro a couple of times, but not for mongering. It is as crowded as it was in the first week of March, when I was last there, to before the quarantine. Didn't see any chicas that I would have done, but I was not really looking. Some people wearing masks, others not. Some wearing them below the nose. Both times I was there on a week day afternoon. Don't know if it makes a difference. This time I took the time to get the layout of the centro epicenter. Now I know where hotel Nutibara, gusto's, premier plaza etc. Landmarks. Seen them on previous trips, but didn't pay attention.
About a quarter or less of the commercial spaces on La 70 are closed with for rent signs. Most of them seem to have construction and upgrades going on. As of right now, most of the discos and dance places seem to be operating normally.
I am in Laurales. If any one wants to meet up for a drink or something, let me know.
I am happy so far.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2513094]Once I was lucky to fuck a 9 at La Isla. The hottest chick I have ever had in my life. The girl had a 6-pack abs, perfect man made boobs, absolutely stunning fitness model. It takes a lot of discipline and effort to get that 6-pack. At La Isla she was 300 K /30 minutes but no wonder she would be asking $300 at Gustos and I understand why. Those who invest their time and learn English also have an advantage and earn a top dollar.[/QUOTE]To me, it is far more interesting to talk about why women get the prices they do then argue about what is better.
I had a girl like this in Bogota, actually two and did not close the deal with one, that was a 9 or 10. She was a top 5 experience all time in my life, and we went at it five times in one day. So here is a woman who would draw a crowd when walking in a room versus my main girl who would not. Still, as good as the Bogota girl looked, I like the way my main girl felt. She was more solid, nicer skin.
Here is a woman then who was crazy about me, a great fuck, would fuck me anywhere, and I was like, "Nah, I want some different pussy. " I was even kind of like that with my main squeeze.
When I was in Colombia 15 years ago, I paid top $ in Bogota and Medellin and really was unimpressed. The women I saw were high end working girls who were totally into the money. I had better for less in Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina, Venezuela, and of course, Brazil. When I went on seeking, and this is no means exclusive to seeking, I found the sweet, caring, positive, pleasing women everyone raves about with Colombians, and that is when I realized why everyone was crazy about Colombia.
To me, the more interesting question is what would you prefer after: new pussy even in el centro or to go a second round with your 9? Because we have to be honest here, most guys do not admit to a lame sex session even if it is and an average session happens all the time and below average sessions happen as much as above average ones do.
So was she worth $300 as a novelty fuck? And if she was, was she worth returning to? My guess is you had no regrets because she was a novelty fuck, and you did not return to her and sought out new pussy the next night.
I am not judging here. Hell, I am guilty of this, but I wonder if you could have tempered your lust and the desire to spend big $$ on this girl versus admitting, "I think I want this $300 girl, but what I really want is new pussy" and gotten new for cheaper. That is a question I will start asking myself now.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513065]Bro BBFS is not my thing. If that's your thing fine be it.
And idk where you get your info from but most guys I'm around won't even get a BBBJ.
Also if you really don't see a difference between top notch girls in Lleras and top notch girls in Centro you're oblivious.
A lot of these guys paying 300 $ is not there for the pussy so much as the experience at his comfort.
They don't walk the streets of Centro. Or go to casas to meet girls.
Half of these guys that are paying 2-300 don't even nut til the morning and they probably get very basic shit.
But they partied with them all night and had a blast. And to them is was worth it.
The same way they like to wear 1000 $ Versace sneakers while others would say a 30 $ pair would do the same thing.[/QUOTE]That escalated quickly!
On the subject of BBBJ just read the forum. I don't recall a lot of guys complaining, because they couldn't get a CBJ. Don't remember anyone offering to pay more for a CBJ either.
As you know, I always say everyone should pay what they want. It's your money and your business. You don't need anyone's approval.
All the rest of it, there's not as much separation as you want to believe. As knowledge said there's a lot of fantasy involved. I've met a lot of university students who, when questioned obviously weren't.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513130]As long as you got what you wanted is all that matters. Whether you paid 100 $ or 1000 $.
This hobby is different for every single person.
Some guys like to cuddle and keep girls overnight others want to get their nuts off and kick them out.
And no Gustos doesn't have the best girls in the world.
However your chances of finding that 10 are better in Lleras than in Centro is all I'm saying.
Especially on the weekends.
But I will say the top Lleras girl will make significantly more than the top Centro girl. This is why theyre traveling all the time to different countries wearing the fancier clothing etc and etc.
Even at 10 guys a day which is a stretch thats only 500 mil.
Lleras girl makes more than that on one call[/QUOTE]I'm questioning the 500 mil for Lleras girls. Unless they are in Gustos. I've found they are more in the 200 mil range. But perhaps those were exceptions. My take on the cost is 150 - 250 for Lleras, for FB contact girls, for some of the escort apps. And the prices for the casas tend to be quite similar at the regular / normal downtown end. 45-65 mil for hh, and up for more time. Of which the girl may get half. Higher end casas / massage are back up into the 170 - 200 mil, usually 45 minutes or so.
So my math says that the average number of customers per day x whatever they net, when weighted against other factors. Works out to be very similar. Its a free market at work, and it's a pretty efficient market. Dress to the nines, and go to Gustos, and you spend a lot of money and go home empty 2 nights out of 3. Or bang 15 guys in your shift at New Life. Could end up being a similar deal. The popular ones at each of those can do a lot better. I've seen the room sheets (the record of who used the room during the day) in New Life. Lets just say those thin bed sheets that look like they are 20 years old. They were new last week.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2513167]I'm questioning the 500 mil for Lleras girls. Unless they are in Gustos. I've found they are more in the 200 mil range. But perhaps those were exceptions. My take on the cost is 150 - 250 for Lleras, for FB contact girls, for some of the escort apps. And the prices for the casas tend to be quite similar at the regular / normal downtown end. 45-65 mil for hh, and up for more time. Of which the girl may get half. Higher end casas / massage are back up into the 170 - 200 mil, usually 45 minutes or so.
So my math says that the average number of customers per day x whatever they net, when weighted against other factors. Works out to be very similar. Its a free market at work, and it's a pretty efficient market. Dress to the nines, and go to Gustos, and you spend a lot of money and go home empty 2 nights out of 3. Or bang 15 guys in your shift at New Life. Could end up being a similar deal. The popular ones at each of those can do a lot better. I've seen the room sheets (the record of who used the room during the day) in New Life. Lets just say those thin bed sheets that look like they are 20 years old. They were new last week.[/QUOTE]I know personally 2 girls making -7-800 usd every weekend before the pandemic.
They have guys buying them clothes bags etc. On vacation every other weekend.
Smart ones know how to hustle to maximize their profits and others can rely on their physical looks.
Either which way the gringo money coming in for these girls in Lleras is not comparable to Centro money.
Even the best casa girl prob gets 5 clients on a good day.
I just said the top notch girl in Lleras which could be Gustos makes way more than a top notch girl at a casa.
The transitioning is happening. Lleras park area along with calle 10 is flocked with centro girls who slightly upgrade their attire to what is expected of lleras park. I have even seen mileroticos girls out there. Lleras park is not as high class as you make it out to be. The gringos that pay 200 k to a centro girl inflates the image of lleras park. Most girls are from the barrios looking for big pay day. Now you can say some Gusto girls are different level but some don't belong in gusto as well. I like window shopping in Gusto. I like the outfits chics were, lots are in very good and sexy physical condition. Dj is good and they do not pressure you to buy drinks. Thats why I go there. Paying $200 or more to me is ridiculous. But if you got it, enjoy yourself while you there its your right to. But you inflate the price. February 150 k was the rate. Now girls are asking 200 k. Cmon man LOL. The dimes in Colombia are not putas. They are regular girls.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513169]I know personally 2 girls making -7-800 usd every weekend before the pandemic.
They have guys buying them clothes bags etc. On vacation every other weekend.
Smart ones know how to hustle to maximize their profits and others can rely on their physical looks.
Either which way the gringo money coming in for these girls in Lleras is not comparable to Centro money.
Even the best casa girl prob gets 5 clients on a good day.
I just said the top notch girl in Lleras which could be Gustos makes way more than a top notch girl at a casa.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Blakman;2513177]The transitioning is happening. Lleras park area along with calle 10 is flocked with centro girls who slightly upgrade their attire to what is expected of lleras park. I have even seen mileroticos girls out there. Lleras park is not as high class as you make it out to be. The gringos that pay 200 k to a centro girl inflates the image of lleras park. Most girls are from the barrios looking for big pay day. Now you can say some Gusto girls are different level but some don't belong in gusto as well. I like window shopping in Gusto. I like the outfits chics were, lots are in very good and sexy physical condition. Dj is good and they do not pressure you to buy drinks. Thats why I go there. Paying $200 or more to me is ridiculous. But if you got it, enjoy yourself while you there its your right to. But you inflate the price. February 150 k was the rate. Now girls are asking 200 k. Cmon man LOL. The dimes in Colombia are not putas. They are regular girls.
.[/QUOTE]Well I guess times have changed.
I'll be back in Jan for a 2 month stay. I haven't been there since March.
The dimes are there. Non pros or reg girls or full blown putas. They're all attainable.
So the street girls of Lleras has downgraded.
Of course not all Gustos girls are hot. Just like not every Centro street walker is a druggie.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513169]I know personally 2 girls making -7-800 usd every weekend before the pandemic.
[/QUOTE]Care to share FB links to these girls? Some have said it many times that Leidy Baron rate is $200. I believe that because I would have paid that if I just run into her the first time.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513169]
Even the best casa girl prob gets 5 clients on a good day.
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I think 5 is easily doable for top casa girl. I am not sure about Medellin only because there don't seem to be that many mongers when compared to other places. But if you look at the popular girls elsewhere like HK 141, they can easily get 15+ or more and they don't even have to be top. Or the girls working in Lima chongos can get 10+. There are other places that I can count towels used, pretty much all of them can have more than 5. The main difference is these places have a lot more mongers. Even the $300+ girls in USA that is not very efficitn can have 5+ regularly. I know because of the number of towels used.
Got to energy life about 12:30 pm. Hear best time could be 11 am. I got lucky because there was I guy viewing all the chicas so I was able to see and jot down the numbers before it was my turn. Majority look good and natural. Few silicone which I loved. This silicone Colombia is a mess. Too many and they start young. Anyways upcoming trip to Kenya should make up for silicone Colombia. Anyways Theres 2 girls that strikes my attention. All natural. Yahoo. 1 absolute natural stallion. Tits, muscled ass, and a screamer. Other tall, slim, with booty to accentuate all of that. It was a tough decision but I chose the stallion. She grabs my hand and we go to the room. I was expecting something sheik. It was cool but ordinary. She ask to give me a massage but I am not into that. Learn from thailand that's cutting into your fucking time. Told her I prefer to give the massage. She couldn't understand. Again I could hear the whispers you should have learn spanish mister. I play my music. And immediate smile comes to her face. I go to suck her tits and she gets in a position to give me better access. That was a sign we are heading in the right direction. I enjoy the firm, natural tits. Surprised she's from medellin and not Cali. She insist to massage I agree but say poco and only the front. I want to see you every minute. She does a good job. I give her a hug. Try to kiss her. I been trying to kiss all the chicks. I think its the weed and affection deficiency in the USA. She says no, more money. I try to eat the pussy. She says no, more money. Ok I understand no fuss. She puts on the condom and attacks the dick. Another great cocksucker. This is an amazing run. She doesn't let me push her head down because of her hairdo but she goes deep herself. I am getting the deep throat, little sloppy toppy, eyes, the talk. I am in good shape. Next I ask her to get on top. What a sight. She sits on it and instant moan, while she rides I am grabbing all that ass enjoying every minute. Then I made a change the game move. I smacked her ass. I swear she went fron 2nd to fifth gear each time I smacked it. She started fucking me fast and cumming. Making tony the tiger roar. Not quite as loud as me but very noticeable. I might have found my mate. Next doggy. Oh my my. I doggied it for good 20 minutes. She took it and enjoy it. More noises. She was easy to leche. I would expose my secret but read about it in the book. We went to missionary and that was only ok mainly because she kept fucking with the condom. Making sure it was on. Finally I started saying eso bueno bueno so she would stop. I want to see the ass more so I got to the edge of the bed so she could bounce on it. Man that was nice. Couple more leche. Then we went back to missionary. Found a motion that was hitting her spots and brought out more screams. I was like they must be wondering if we knew each other the way we were carrying on. I was spanking that ass repeatedly, talking dirty to her and she would moan and scream so receptively. Finally back to missionary. Suave and deep motion looking into her eyes and seeing tits got my mind over the edge and I exploded. Finally I condom nutted in the pussy. Been awhile. We used up most of our time. She sets the shower. It gets hot. I swear I water to stay in there for awhile. If it wasnt for her hairdo she would have got in with me. She showered and I watch. Staring at that chocolate thickness every minute and enjoying it. She came out and was putting lotion on. I took the bottle and helped, it was like the least I can do. She laughed. it felt damn good. I gave her a 10 k tip. Got her number. Text her. She responded later that night. 200 k to come to my house. I ask for 140 k. She said no. I ask for 3 hrs. No response LOL. But let me tell you I was happy with energy. Decided to go back today. I was so happy I went to ATM to withdraw more money then left my ATM card. Fortunately I went back to plaza and administration had it.
Conjeitas wasnt feeling it. 5 minute stay. Next door avenue de san diego. Not sure of the name. Not bad. Bout 5 girls i would hit. 50 mil pesos for an hour. Its funny because you go through like a secret entrance it seems to get to the fucking area. Not alot of guys so plenty of girls. Few decent ones.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2513177]The transitioning is happening. Lleras park area along with calle 10 is flocked with centro girls who slightly upgrade their attire to what is expected of lleras park. I have even seen mileroticos girls out there. Lleras park is not as high class as you make it out to be. The gringos that pay 200 k to a centro girl inflates the image of lleras park. Most girls are from the barrios looking for big pay day. Now you can say some Gusto girls are different level but some don't belong in gusto as well. I like window shopping in Gusto. I like the outfits chics were, lots are in very good and sexy physical condition. Dj is good and they do not pressure you to buy drinks. Thats why I go there. Paying $200 or more to me is ridiculous. But if you got it, enjoy yourself while you there its your right to. But you inflate the price. February 150 k was the rate. Now girls are asking 200 k. Cmon man LOL. The dimes in Colombia are not putas. They are regular girls..[/QUOTE]Ditto.
Regardless of the difference in attire and setting, they all are barrio putas in third-world country. Just some gringo guys want a delusion / fantasy that they are dealing with high-class escorts, and the barriio putas and Colombian club owners take advantage of it. I would rather spend similar amount of money in Germany, Russia, and Canada.
I think this is the point your missing. I think entertainment stated it, I stated it, other guys in different words have stated it. I have seen it in my own island of Jamaica. Makeup, accessories, and clothing can turn a 5 into a dime.
Getting back to gusto. I think what stands out to me is the fitness of these girls. They are in great physical shape, clearly quite a few is in the gym. This to me separate them from the rest. And when you see guys walking out the club with them you cant blame them for paying hefty price. I just cannot do it.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2513197]Well I guess times have changed.
I'll be back in Jan for a 2 month stay. I haven't been there since March.
The dimes are there. Non pros or reg girls or full blown putas. They're all attainable.
So the street girls of Lleras has downgraded.
Of course not all Gustos girls are hot. Just like not every Centro street walker is a druggie.[/QUOTE].
My flight got cancelled and gusto closed extremely early Is something going on in Colombia.
Hi all,
I'm in Bogotá right now and it was bumping in Santa Fe last night until 3 am at fiebre. Anyone been to la isla girls club recently wondering if it's worth the flight etc today to go there tonight.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2513288]My flight got cancelled and gusto closed extremely early Is something going on in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I don't see anything happening. Check El Colombiano website everyday anyway.