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[QUOTE=Mambomike]Thanks again for the great logistical information. It never hurts to repeat and update it sometimes for newbies like myself. Yes, I had seen some of the pictures by RainCity and the video. My impression was that it was quite complicated, but I am rethinking this a bit.
I have been spending some time on sites like [url]http://reiseauskunft. Bahn.de[/url] to plan this out.[/QUOTE]
If you start at the homepage for the DB site, you'll be able to select a language you're comfortable with, if it's other than Deutsch.
[url]www.bahn.de[/url]
[QUOTE=Mambomike]On my gateway into FRA, I have an extra day which I had intended to spend at Oase. I will be travelling with luggage and a laptop computer. So unless there is a secure locker in FRA, it seems the best choice is to rent a Sixti car to drive to Oase.[/QUOTE]
Atooz is pointing you to the solution. Almost all the DB stations except the smallest have luggage lockers. Take your bags with you from the airport regional station to the Hauptbahnhof. Assuming your S-Bahn train arrives on the Tief (lower - underground level) proceed up the stairs or escalators to the main level (follow the crowds). When you get to the top, turn around and walk to the last platform/track on that side of the station (north side and the higher numbered platforms). You shouldn't have any problem seeing the rows of baggage lockers.

To play the luggage locker game you'll need some Euro coins. As Atooz says, at least one luggage compartment size takes one 5 Euro coin. I think that's the larger size but I can't recall the cost of the small one. One Euro ? In any case, if you don't have any Euro coins, you really should have some before you get to the lockers. There are plenty of shops on the main hall of the Hbf. Buy a small item or get a cup of coffee or something to eat and you'll get some change.

The reward for playing the luggage locker game is freedom of movement unhindered by luggage.

I love travelling in Germany.

Rufus

[QUOTE=Rwaters]I posted this in FKK FAQ. But nobody responded so I am reposting it in this section.

I am going to rent a car for 4 days from Frankfurt airport.

If I try to book with SIXT declaring I am a resident of MY country (not Germany), they give me a price quote of 222 euros for their basic car with 1200 kilometers.

If I declare on website I am a German resident, the price drops to 94 euros for their basic car which includes 1200 kilometers.

My question is: Can I get away with making the rental as a German resident to save more than half the cost?

Also, I looked on the SIXTI website (add the "I") to the SIXT, it is a different company. Their prices are 53 euros dor a SmartCar or 90 euros for a Ford Focus with allowance of 400 kilometers. They are showing no availability for Terminal 2 at FRA airport. This is for pickup at Frankfurt Hahn Flughafen-Is this a differnt airport?

The best option it seems is to acquire a car from SIXT at the lower German resident cost.

Hope this thread leads us to future car savings!

RW[/QUOTE] All your questions have been answered (by yours truly among others) gazillion times on this as well as other threads. Use the search feature and then read the reports that have been made on rental cars in Germany.

[QUOTE=Rwaters]I posted this in FKK FAQ. But nobody responded so I am reposting it in this section.

I am going to rent a car for 4 days from Frankfurt airport.

If I try to book with SIXT declaring I am a resident of MY country (not Germany), they give me a price quote of 222 euros for their basic car with 1200 kilometers.

If I declare on website I am a German resident, the price drops to 94 euros for their basic car which includes 1200 kilometers.

My question is: Can I get away with making the rental as a German resident to save more than half the cost?

Also, I looked on the SIXTI website (add the "I") to the SIXT, it is a different company. Their prices are 53 euros dor a SmartCar or 90 euros for a Ford Focus with allowance of 400 kilometers. They are showing no availability for Terminal 2 at FRA airport. This is for pickup at Frankfurt Hahn Flughafen-Is this a differnt airport?

The best option it seems is to acquire a car from SIXT at the lower German resident cost.

Hope this thread leads us to future car savings!

RW[/QUOTE]Since it is Christmas, I'll be more helpful than the previous response.

Yes, you can. Just use your hotel address.

[QUOTE=Rwaters]
I am going to rent a car for 4 days from Frankfurt airport.

If I try to book with SIXT declaring I am a resident of MY country (not Germany), they give me a price quote of 222 euros for their basic car with 1200 kilometers.

If I declare on website I am a German resident, the price drops to 94 euros for their basic car which includes 1200 kilometers.

My question is: Can I get away with making the rental as a German resident to save more than half the cost?

Also, I looked on the SIXTI website (add the "I") to the SIXT, it is a different company. Their prices are 53 euros dor a SmartCar or 90 euros for a Ford Focus with allowance of 400 kilometers. They are showing no availability for Terminal 2 at FRA airport. This is for pickup at Frankfurt Hahn Flughafen-Is this a differnt airport?

RW[/QUOTE]


Henio has already answered you, I pretty much recall he has written several posts about booking a car like a local in Germany, so just do the research.

About Hahn airport- it is a small airport located near the town of Witlich, used mainly by Ryan Air. They advertize it as being Frankfurt but in fact it is 126 km from downtown Frankfurt, about 1.5 hour by car cause the road is a narrow and slow one. Ryan Air does provide a bus shuttle service to Frankfurt. If you are booking the car for more than 4 days a good option is [url]http://www.amigoautos.es/[/url], it is an agency that books, among others, cars from sixt, but with unlimited mileage and at a better rate(sometimes 27 euros a day). If for one or 2 days, Sixti or Avis offer better rates.

More info on [post]736378[/post]

[QUOTE=Mambomike]
On my gateway into FRA, I have an extra day which I had intended to spend at Oase. I would take the train to make the 10 AM opening, and return about 21:30 to Frankfurth HBF to catch the 23:10 or the 23:35 to DUS.

The problem is after spending overnight on the redeye to FRA and a day in Oase, the train to DUS arrives at 01:11 or 02:39 in the morning and I have an 06:30 flight out of DUS to work that day. I want to try out Oase on the gateway, so that on the return I will have time to sample GT, the Hof, and Samya, with a possible repeat (4th day) at one of them or Oase.[/QUOTE]

So your flying into Frankfurt and out of Dusseldorf at 6:30am the following day? A train would waste alot of time arriving too early into dusseldorf. I'd suggest you rent a car in Frankfurt for one day that can be dropped off in dusseldorf the following morning. There are many reasonably priced gps's around 100usd (search for Garmin nuvi 270) that have europe maps on them...a good investment.

Id suggest you land in frankfurt, drive to oase and stay until 8:30... then drive to fkk finca in dierdorf (from oase to finca is just over 1 hour drive) [url]http://www.finca-erotica.de/[/url] ...arrive there after 10pm. From 10pm till 11pm they have a happy hour entrance of 30 euro's. Finca closes at 4am. From Finca its just over an hour to the Dusseldorf airport. You leave at 3am from Finca and drop your car off at the Dusseldorf airport at 4:30am (key drop). Plenty of time to get to your early morning flight out of Dusseldorf...but you need a gps to insure you don't get lost. By doing Finca your breaking your drive up into two hour long trips...with a rewarded break in the middle. You can't do this with Samya or the Hof since they both close at 1am.

On one hand your going to be spending a bit more money for a one day car rental with a dropoff at another airport...plus a bit of gas. On the other hand your using that extra time spent waiting at the airport inside an fkk club. Oase opens at 10am but the better girls don't arrive till mid afternoon. Try to use some of that time resting up for the night shift at both clubs if you do what I suggest with the drive north. You can nap inside the sauna room on one of the 3 lounge chairs without the girls waking you too often.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]On my gateway into FRA, I have an extra day which I had intended to spend at Oase. I will be travelling with luggage and a laptop computer. So unless there is a secure locker in FRA, it seems the best choice is to rent a Sixti car to drive to Oase. Otherwise, I would take the train to make the 10 AM opening, and return about 21:30 to Frankfurth HBF to catch the 23:10 or the 23:35 to DUS. The problem is after spending overnight on the redeye to FRA and a day in Oase, the train to DUS arrives at 01:11 or 02:39 in the morning and I have an 06:30 flight out of DUS to work that day.[/QUOTE]
Mambomike,

despite the general inclinations of this forum, I'm going to be a wet blanket and say, don't try to do it all on that first day in Germany. I don't recall what time your flight arrives in Frankfurt but this is what I recommend as a basic itinerary:

- flight arrives in Frankfurt
- train to Frankfurt Hbf where you stash your baggage in a locker
- book ICE train in Reisebüro for departure later that day
- train out to Oase for 10 AM opening
- hours of debauchery in the Oase FKK
- return to Frankfurt Hbf and retrieval of your baggage
- train to Duesseldorf Hbf depart 18:10 (ICE 622) - an earlier train is better
- arrival in Duesseldorf at 19:42
- overnight stay in hotel near Hbf
- depart hotel for Hbf
- S-Bahn or ERB (regional train) to airport, arrival approx 05:00
- flight departs 06:30

Only you can decide how much you can handle on your first jet-lag addled day in Germany. Personally, I again recommend against attempting to drive. I gather this will be your first time in Germany, and you will be driving on strange roads in Winter conditions at night while being deprived of sleep. Why have a great time in Oase to get yourself killed on the Autobahn on the way to some other FKK near Duesseldorf ?

If I would make a change to the above itinerary, it would be to shift it earlier by an hour or two to allow for better rest in the hotel and rising early enough for the 11 minute trip by rail to the airport. For example, there is an ICE which leaves at 17:10 arriving 18:37, allowing at least 5 hours for you at Oases.

You'll learn a lot on this first leg of the trip which you can apply on your return.

Rufus

The reason I posted here, looking for advice, is because I recognize that my vitality and responsiveness might be compromised after an 8 hour red-eye flight into FRA and a six hour time change. I also may find it difficult to return a car in DUS at 05:30. While little mambo likes Breadman's suggestion, I am going to think with the big head even though I have good experience driving on icy roads at night where I live, but with a compromise.

Due to lockers at FRA-HBF, I'm going to plan to stash my luggage there and take the S-5/Taxi out to Oase at 10:00 following a 05:45 arrival at FRA, returning in time to catch the 21:46 ICE to DUS, arriving at 23:43, thus giving me up to 10 hours in Oase, including lunch and dinner (and a few delectable snacks in between!). Thus I should get a room around DUS for a few hours of shut-eye. I may decide to leave FRA for DUS earlier than that, if I'm simply wearing out.

1. Are there any recommendations (hotels, web site) around DUS?

2. Should I book the ICE ticket on my way to Oase? Is it easy to take an earlier train if I book the 21:46 before heading out to Oase, if I leave Oase early?

My FKK planned itenary is as follows:

Monday. Oase

Following Wednesday. Pick up car at DUS and drive toThe Hof

Thursday. GT

Friday. The Hof or Samya

Saturday. GT, Samya (maybe stopping at Finca for a nightcap), or Oase (maybe staying to 5 am), depending on previous days' outcome.

Sunday. Return car at FRA and fly home.

Chilly Willys and Gangbang Teenies seem like good substitutes for a change of pace if the above plan doesn't pan out.

My mongering budget is going to be 300E per day plus entrance fees, or 6 session equivalents reduced by extras, time extensions, or exhaustion. Realizing the my stamina may be different than your's, does this plan sound reasonable?

[QUOTE=Rufus T Firefly]Mambomike,

Despite the general inclinations of this forum, I'm going to be a wet blanket and say, don't try to do it all on that first day in Germany. I don't recall what time your flight arrives in Frankfurt but this is what I recommend as a basic itinerary:

- flight arrives in Frankfurt

- train to Frankfurt Hbf where you stash your baggage in a locker

- book ICE train in Reisebüro for departure later that day

- train out to Oase for 10 AM opening

- hours of debauchery in the Oase FKK

- return to Frankfurt Hbf and retrieval of your baggage

- train to Duesseldorf Hbf depart 18:10 (ICE 622). An earlier train is better

- arrival in Duesseldorf at 19:42

- overnight stay in hotel near Hbf

- depart hotel for Hbf

- S-Bahn or ERB (regional train) to airport, arrival approx 05:00

- flight departs 06:30

Only you can decide how much you can handle on your first jet-lag addled day in Germany. Personally, I again recommend against attempting to drive. I gather this will be your first time in Germany, and you will be driving on strange roads in Winter conditions at night while being deprived of sleep. Why have a great time in Oase to get yourself killed on the Autobahn on the way to some other FKK near Duesseldorf?

If I would make a change to the above itinerary, it would be to shift it earlier by an hour or two to allow for better rest in the hotel and rising early enough for the 11 minute trip by rail to the airport. For example, there is an ICE which leaves at 17:10 arriving 18:37, allowing at least 5 hours for you at Oases.

You'll learn a lot on this first leg of the trip which you can apply on your return.

Rufus[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mambomike]1. Are there any recommendations (hotels, web site) around DUS?[/QUOTE]
Depends on your budget. There are plenty of hotels in the Hbf area to choose from for all budgets. For your plan the best thing to do is stay near DUS airport. There's a Sheraton and Maritim hotel within the airport grounds but neither are budget accomodations. Or you could stay in Ratingen or one of the other towns near the airport which will cost less. Then again the airport is very close to the city

[QUOTE=Mambomike]2. Should I book the ICE ticket on my way to Oase? Is it easy to take an earlier train if I book the 21:46 before heading out to Oase, if I leave Oase early?[/QUOTE]
I have pre-booked ICE tickets on the internet from the Dbahn website, and there's usually a reduced rate for advanced reservations. Prebooking a ticket for a particular ICE train will make it more difficult to change your mind later to take an earlier train out. Can be done, but you'll need to go to a ticket office at the Hbf to do it, and I'm not sure if there's an additional charge.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]My FKK planned itenary is as follows:

Monday. Oase

Following Wednesday. Pick up car at DUS and drive toThe Hof

Thursday. GT

Friday. The Hof or Samya

Saturday. GT, Samya (maybe stopping at Finca for a nightcap), or Oase (maybe staying to 5 am), depending on previous days' outcome.

Sunday. Return car at FRA and fly home.

Chilly Willys and Gangbang Teenies seem like good substitutes for a change of pace if the above plan doesn't pan out.

My mongering budget is going to be 300E per day plus entrance fees, or 6 session equivalents reduced by extras, time extensions, or exhaustion. Realizing the my stamina may be different than your's, does this plan sound reasonable?[/QUOTE]
Yes, this plan is reasonable and eminently doable. The only change that I would make is to go to GT on Weds. since it's closer to DUS than either Samya or Bernd's, then transfer down to the Cologne area for your last 3 days.

Njoy and please post on your experience.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]

Saturday. GT, Samya (maybe stopping at Finca for a nightcap), or Oase (maybe staying to 5 am), depending on previous days' outcome.

Sunday. Return car at FRA and fly home.
[/QUOTE]

Get back to the Frankfurt area a day before you depart. I highly recommend checking out World on a weekend.

i want to share my experience with hotels, but first i have to real thank beffen1 for his suggest about etap chain.

booking on line i paid 38 euro for etap in linden + 6 euro for breakfast.

as you see it is really cheap price, i guess cause they save money having reception open only couple of hours per day and an automatic machine that delivers you the code of your room.

i have to say i was really satisfied, from now i will try to choose all the time an etap hotel as even if the room and the shower are a bit small, it looks as it was built last year, fresh and new and very, perfect clean.

internet is not super fast, but works good, the speed, i tried download, was between 120-180kb/s, free and easy connection from the room.

breakfast good and all you can eat.

i have to say i never been in hotel at such low price with so good quality.

so i stayed 3 nights at etap in linden and was perfect, yesterday i arrived to augsburg etap, i saw 35 euro by net, but if you not book in advance it is 38 euro, plus 6 euro breakfast it was 44 euro, so i said, let's try ibis in center of augsburg as in the streets of the city ibis is advertised for 49 euro, so should be only 5 euro more than etap. ( more the will to change hotel, not cause etap disappointed me...).

well folks, it was a very bad choice !!!

first of all, if you not book in advance by net, the price is not 49 euro but 59 euro, first rip off, second the breakfast is +10 euro and third to have net in room you have to pay 7 euro.

obviously i realize this rip off about net and breakfast only after i parked my car and gave my id and honestly too tired to left, but at least when the receptionist said 49 euro is with booking from net, i asked her if i could use the pc of hotel to book me a night, she at least agree.

i did not pay for the net in the room, but for the breakfast, so it was 59 euro... a total rip off, if you consider for example that in ibis you pay 10 euro a breakfast that has smaller choice of food than the one at 6 euro at etap and even more, this morning in the butter's pieces there was written the date 29.12.2009. and so far as i do not understand german, i guess it was the maximum date of eating and not when it was produced...cause today is 28.12.2009 !

so at ibis you pay much more to have less than etap, well, ok at ibis you have in the room couple of meters square more, but who care ?

i liked ibis last year in brazil, curitiba, but i will no more use it, as thank to beffen1 now i know etap.

last but important thing, if you stay in 2 persons in one room at etap it is 46 euro, so 23 euro each one, so if you go with a friend just for couple of days to fkk it is perfect choice, cause even if we all probably can afford more expensive hotel, i see no point to spend more to have the same.

I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.[/QUOTE]
Everything was same as usual last year. I accually did not know it was carnival until one of the smaller clubs had a small party with food & costumes. Lineups were still great. Only thing you might notice is the young drunks hanging around the stations & etc. I had a great time.

Hey Guy,

You seem to be sweating this trip a little on the heavy side. Chill out dude. Nothin too wrong with the dates that you have chosen. I happen to know that an international crew of ISGers (from the States, Antipides and British Isles) will be in town (Frankfurt area) round the time you will be in situ. I know. Because I'm one of them. Sure there are possibly better times to travel to Frankfurt but more because of the winter weather, not the carnival! Relax, chill and enjoy your vacation! I'm sure there will be plenty of chics to go round!

CD

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.[/QUOTE]
Mambomike,

You are visiting the clubs from Ash Wednesday (17 February 2010) onwards which is when the bulk of the carnival will have gone by. I am just unsure how much the lighter line up lasts for. Valentines day on 14 February gave me the impression that the line ups were light also for various reasons. I have not pulled the posts from prior years but there has been posts from Jackyo at least and maybe others saying some smaller clubs may be empty or even closed. The big fuck factories like Golden Time, and the Hessen 3 will continue to have decent line ups. Just do not expect maybe too many of the German girls or free lancers in the clubs.

Anyway, you are pitching your luck along with other crews around at that time. They will be facing the same problem as you trying to work out the best combination and sequence of clubs to visit based on time tables and budgets. From your list of inquiries that you have been making for just you, think of what it is like trying to incorporate the desires of say a crew of four guys travelling together with different agendas to agree on a timetable, a budget for shared costs, and a visit venue schedule that fits their wants. Your inquiry list is just a fraction of the banter that can go in the background amongst the veterans when they meet up. For example, guys will invariably want to save a Friday or a Saturday at World since those two days are World at its best. The received wisdom is that Oase is always the best club in Hessen on a Sunday (so you always seem to see foreigners in Oase on Sundays), Golden Time is always a bonus if the crew is happy to make the 2.5 hour drive North West and book hotels there. Then there will be the guy that wants to try some new clubs that no one has reviewed or just wants to be a pioneer, then there are the guys with their favourite girls and they know their work schedule and then there are the guys that object to dessous tag so are defensive about NRW clubs because the girls are not naked and visiting Hessen clubs on their respective dessous tag.

So you see you got it lucky.

For Hessen just prior to your visit is the ambiente Messe from 12-16 February 2010 which is a decent sized messe in Hessen so expect girls to know that and be working the Hessen clubs. You get a few of the enterprising girls that are intimate with the Messe schedule. I know the Polish mafia at Oase are and also the German professionals at Oase. Some seem to relish it so that they work the Messe and some use the Messe schedule to determine when they do not work since the clubs are packed with men making it feel like you are in a homosexuals club.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.[/QUOTE]I will be on my trip at the same time, will it "disturb" my vacation at Oase in anyway? Or is it more in the western parts that this Karneval occurs?