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Gentleman, this is the [B]Pattaya Report[/B] not the Pattaya Debate thread over prices and sourcing of prostitutes.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2925434][B]Grown men should spend their money how they like.[/B].[/QUOTE]No understanding is needed of why I like Blow Job Bar, Gentlemen's Clubs, Massage Places, Thai Friendly and [B]Beach Road[/B]. They all are different. It is like asking, why are you paying more Steak, than you do for chicken.
Usually I find that people that have a problem with what someone else pays fall in to two categories:
Elitists: They want to say "my prostitutes are more attractive and wholesome than your prostitutes" because the amount of money I pay for them.
They have a problem with their disposable income so they talk about what other people are paying.
I personally think everyone should pay what they want. I don't need any understanding of why. What I do not like is if I give prices on the costs of going to [B]Beach Road[/B] that I got to hear it from someone who does not like [B]Beach Road[/B] so they talk shit.
Everybody has preferences. Because I am eating some Khao Man Gui (50 THB) today for lunch does that mean I cannot afford to have a ribeye at my favorite restaurant for (1000 THB) tomorrow. The corollary of that is why someone needs to understand why I paid 1000 THB for my ribeye. The only reason some might have that question is if they don't like steak or have some other personal preference.
I like agogos. It was pointed out to me by [B]Banana Boi[/B] that you can sit in them and have a drink for yourself, take in the sights and enjoy. For a very reasonable price. You do not have to buy Lady Drinks. I don't take girls from agogos because I simply cannot stomach the pricing structure. One girl from an agogo is a full night on the town with my ATF complete with bottle service with for friends. So far in my visits I have only met one girl that I considered worth those numbers. I almost pulled the trigger but I didn't. Maybe if someday I have money to burn I would. But I can take the money I would use on taking agogo girl out and rent a hotel room for the night and fuck three girls off of [B]Beach Road[/B] or [B]Thai Friendly[/B].
[B]That might not be your personal preference[/B] But it does not mean that I cannot afford to take the agogo girl. It just means I choose to spend the same amount of money in a different manner. No one needs to understand it. Why? Because I am a grown man.
][B]Grown men should spend their money how they like.[/B].
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[QUOTE=JustTK;2925533]I am just trying to understand why people choose to do what they do. You say go-gos are good for tourists with limited time. So how does that work? How do go-gos save you time compared to Soi 6 or any short time bar, or any beer bar?[/QUOTE]I think it involves some sort of relativity or space time continuum that is impossible for us mortal mongers to understand. It is impossible to say Hello, beautiful to a pretty girl during any of the 24 hours that you may be out and about at any other place in Pattaya due to time constraints. But if you can manage to wait until that slim 8 hour window that the gogos are open time works differently. It tends to stand still until you can go into dozens of gogos looking at countless lineups, allowing you to find one Eureka before it snaps back to the passage of time that we are all used to.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2924938]Thats right! And I don't have time to go searching through every 7/11 to find it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2924889]I went to dozens of go-gos on my last trip and looked at countless lineups and to me this is the result of that legwork.[/QUOTE]
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Soi 6 afternoon
Finally hit Soi 6 this afternoon. Lots of different opinions on Soi 6 and I'm sure I'll just add more fuel to the fire. Arrived after 3 pm. Needed 2 full lengths of the Soi to finally choose a bar with more than one potential girl. Walked back up to Foxy Bar. My friend is a Soi 6 expert and he was frustrated how long it took me to pick a bar. I didn't say it but cmon now we're not dealing with top gogo girl quality here by any means. We eventually moved to the back of the bar since I wasn't too interested in me being on YouTube with my tongue down a girl's throat. A couple minutes later Mamasan brings every girl in the bar (maybe 20-25 girls?) and had them stand in front of us until we chose a girl. I chose the one I walked into the bar for my friend who said he's not buying LD today chose another girl sadly prettier than mine! Hate when that happens. I wasn't having too much fun with my girl as she didn't speak much English. Why I much prefer gogo girls who all speak English well. I hate conversations through Google Translate. On the positive, lots of DFK, lots of mutual groping since talking was not in the cards with my girl and I. I was ready to leave after drink 1 but my friend bought his girl a 2nd drink so I went with the flow and bought my girl a 2nd drink too. Not sure how long we were therefor but it felt like a while. One thing for sure you don't have to train these girls to drink their drinks slowly cause they couldn't have drank their drinks slower than our girls did. Sorry I didn't ask for room prices I just had no interest, even after she asked me to boom boom. Took a final stroll along the entire Soi around 6 pm. Definitely a bit more life at that time.
Are there decent girls on Soi 6? Sure you can find them. Takes 2 or 3 strolls up and down the Soi. Then you have to race for them cause if you them that Korean guy 100 feet behind you saw her too!
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WTF is going on?
It's 11:30 pm and I'm home writing on ISG again instead of being out. Why? Cause gogo bars have been mildly disappointing since that wondrous first night I had about 10 days ago.
XS was the winner tonight. I liked model 433. Didn't do the 100 baht trick because I figured she'd come to me after me making her LOL on stage. Well it wasn't for her lack of trying she did try to make her way over until she was grabbed by mamasan to sit with this Japanese guy. He never let her out of his sight after that. I also liked a kind of unique looking girl non model 148. She didn't look very Thai. More Indo or Burma. I like unique looking girls. But what got me on this girl is she had a perfectly shaped yet not too big butt on a skinny frame (and I'm not a butt guy).
Like I said 11:30 pm and I'm home. No big deal. Tomorrow is another day. I'll likely be hitting the lesser reviewed gogo bars tomorrow. Do have one regret. There was a beautiful girl standing in street clothes alongside the dancers at Okeanos. She had a huge smile on her face as I walked by. Not sure if she's a hostess but I didn't see her last week. Likely the best looking girl I saw on WS tonight.
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If you are in Pattaya for a long time, it's not a bad idea to have a night alone for recharging.
Fucking multiple times a day can wear you down.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2925242]She finally spoke back and had the nerve to say it is only 300 baht. Well bih if it was only 300 baht then why haven't you given it back? And you only had to give 200 of it back. Now she is saying she will have it on the 30th. Mf act like she was doing me a favor, when she was the one begging for favors.[/QUOTE]Just forget it brother. She is going to keep playing you maybe give 100 baht back and ask more afterwards. It's strategy to ask small amount first in loan scam and maybe even give back with interest. When she takes big money, get ready to hear to most unique lies everyday. Thai girls are just made for fuck and throw money. They don't deserve kindness or any sympathy.
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IPhone To Freelancer?
Are you guys talking about iPhone given to working lady. It's normal, there is new fool born every minute in Thailand.
I follow many working freelancer. I see such things everyday, girls bragging about it uploading stories.
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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2925569]I like agogos. It was pointed out to me by [B]Banana Boi[/B] that you can sit in them and have a drink for yourself, take in the sights and enjoy. For a very reasonable price. You do not have to buy Lady Drinks. I don't take girls from agogos because I simply cannot stomach the pricing structure.[/QUOTE]I'll tack on the new ugly trend of the top gogo bars (someone mentioned they're owned by the same people?) where wait staff who don't know you keep looking at your bill to see when you ordered your last drink or if you have bought LD's. When your time is up you have to leave and trust me it's not a long time frame given each set of dancers on stage last 15 minutes and some bars has 4 sets of girls. Of course this doesn't happen if they know you're not a Cheap Charlie in their bar as I've already experienced in a new gogo bar this trip.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2925533]You say go-gos are good for tourists with limited time. So how does that work? How do go-gos save you time compared to Soi 6 or any short time bar, or any beer bar?[/QUOTE]Because you can hit 4 gogo bars (say Palace, Pin Up, XS, Opium) and see roughly 400 girls on stage within a couple of hours. Over half of those girls will be topless. Let me know which beer bars, Soi 6 bars, etc have that many topless girls you can pick from in that short period of time. I'm guessing there are well over 1000 gogo girls on Waking Street alone on any given night, not including the ones working in Indian and Russian gogo bars as I've never been. I suspect this is what Rocko may be referring to.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2925436]The difference being nobody ever lends a Las Vegas hooker money.[/QUOTE]Guess some friends of mine with much deeper pockets than mine are nobodies cause they have been had by Vegas strippers in their early days of hobbying. Stripper was dating them, going away for weekends, meeting her parents, etc. To them it was real.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2925434]May I ask which version of iPhone that she had? Because they are not that expensive. They start at 429 USD. [/QUOTE]No idea I don't even know what number is the latest iPhone. I think my last iPhone was an iPhone 8 and I swore off iPhones for life after that one.
[QUOTE=Sofiy;2925275]Stop paying Soi 6 girls double what the going rate is. The price is 1,000 thb to the girl, and 400 thb for the room upstairs for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to question you as I'm very out of date with Soi 6 numbers but I'm certain many guys on here want to know the [B]NAMES of the BARS[/B] you have very recently taken girls for 1000 baht and 400 BF. Personally I'm only interested in the bars on the north side of Soi 6 but others may want to know all the bars with 1000 baht girls.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2925671]No idea I don't even know what number is the latest iPhone. I think my last iPhone was an iPhone 8 and I swore off iPhones for life after that one.[/QUOTE]Understood. I am iPhone for life! I just don't like the feel of android phones. But I do like that you can jailbreak them for more privacy. So, do all my serious privacy work on them but I do not like them.
IPhone are like gold with the chicas in the Dominican Republic. They don't have to be new. Used is fine over there. I swear if customs ever want to search my bag on entry I would have a lot of explaining to at how these were gifts for all my girlfriends. LOL!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2925671]I'm not going to question you as I'm very out of date with Soi 6 numbers but I'm certain many guys on here want to know the [B]NAMES of the BARS[/B] you have very recently taken girls for 1000 baht and 400 BF. Personally I'm only interested in the bars on the north side of Soi 6 but others may want to know all the bars with 1000 baht girls.[/QUOTE]I am not a regular of Soi 6 (except the blow job bars). This has been my experience when I am on [B]Soi 6[/B]. Prices are better in the afternoon than in the evening. That factor should be kept in mind. Then they drop again after midnight depending upon how much success the girl has had selling her pussy that night.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2925649]
Do have one regret. There was a beautiful girl standing in street clothes alongside the dancers at Okeanos. She had a huge smile on her face as I walked by. Not sure if she's a hostess but I didn't see her last week. Likely the best looking girl I saw on WS tonight.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you approach her?
I have a similar regret:
On my first night in Phuket in 2019, I walked by four girls. One was beautiful and smiled at me. I locked up mentally and was speechless. Major regret.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2925671]I'll tack on the new ugly trend of the top gogo bars (someone mentioned they're owned by the same people?) where wait staff who don't know you keep looking at your bill to see when you ordered your last drink or if you have bought LD's. When your time is up you have to leave and trust me it's not a long time frame given each set of dancers on stage last 15 minutes and some bars has 4 sets of girls. Of course this doesn't happen if they know you're not a Cheap Charlie in their bar as I've already experienced in a new gogo bar this trip.
Because you can hit 4 gogo bars (say Palace, Pin Up, XS, Opium) and see roughly 400 girls on stage within a couple of hours. Over half of those girls will be topless. Let me know which beer bars, Soi 6 bars, etc have that many topless girls you can pick from in that short period of time. I'm guessing there are well over 1000 gogo girls on Waking Street alone on any given night, not including the ones working in Indian and Russian gogo bars as I've never been. I suspect this is what Rocko may be referring to.
Guess some friends of mine with much deeper pockets than mine are nobodies cause they have been had by Vegas strippers in their early days of hobbying. Stripper was dating them, going away for weekends, meeting her parents, etc. To them it was real.
No idea I don't even know what number is the latest iPhone. I think my last iPhone was an iPhone 8 and I swore off iPhones for life after that one.
I'm not going to question you as I'm very out of date with Soi 6 numbers but I'm certain many guys on here want to know the [B]NAMES of the BARS[/B] you have very recently taken girls for 1000 baht and 400 BF. Personally I'm only interested in the bars on the north side of Soi 6 but others may want to know all the bars with 1000 baht girls.[/QUOTE]Guess, that is me in regards to same owner and Bin checking. I believe the owner for XS, and Pin up is the same as with Farenhelt. I after all these years still enjoy making rounds at GoGo's simple as you noted one can see a volume of girls at one time the biggest plus is being in A / see. I will start off with a cheap draft at times Sangsom on the rocks but I no cheap see. Although they are checking I've not have any staff ever even mamasan approach me for any reason other than see anything you like.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2925671]
Because you can hit 4 gogo bars (say Palace, Pin Up, XS, Opium) and see roughly 400 girls on stage within a couple of hours. Over half of those girls will be topless. Let me know which beer bars, Soi 6 bars, etc have that many topless girls you can pick from in that short period of time. I suspect this is what Rocko may be referring to.
[/QUOTE]That may be the case. But is anyone really saying that there is only 1 acceptable girl in every 400? If the quality of girls is really that poor, I wouldn't bother going out. Better stay in my room and watch StripChat. Have you ever heard of the sales technique. Less is more? Meaning, the more options one is presented with, the harder the choice. One makes more sales from fewer options. Although there are exceptions, most guys only want 1 girl on most occassions, and I suspect on the 95% confidence level that 95% of guys do not need anything like 400 choices to go home happy. Indeed it lessens their chances and is MORE time consuming.
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[QUOTE=Jay1221;2925652]Just forget it brother. She is going to keep playing you maybe give 100 baht back and ask more afterwards. It's strategy to ask small amount first in loan scam and maybe even give back with interest. When she takes big money, get ready to hear to most unique lies everyday. Thai girls are just made for fuck and throw money. They don't deserve kindness or any sympathy.[/QUOTE]Not a lecture you have a right to your opinion " don't deserve kindness or any sympathy " just as you have a right as to where to go and how to spend your money!
I have all the right to be negative about Thai people, culture and this country based on actually things happening to me here. I in many ways feel the way you do but to survived so my family doesn't see or my granddaughter grow up thinking, I do having something important at stake here, not like you guys fucking I needed to change. I pick and choice how I feel most of all I give everyone a fair chance until they show they aren't deserving of my kindness.
Here is a very true story! Over 15 years ago I met an older bargirl on the Darkside of Pattaya a GC, who was 41 but look much younger. She being older more experience since I and my cousin look like Thai owners thought I was the police so that was her job to handle such matters for the farang owner.
Once she realized that we weren't we somewhat hit it off, I was attracted to her because she had that J-low look with a bit of a bubble butt. No talking about all the amazing sex with her got to know her life story. Arrange marriage at 16 with a Muslim guy in Bangkok, the marriage ended a few years later but in between the guy beat her like a workout bag each day even knocking out all her teeth. Thereafter, with two kids she started working the bar years later ended up in Pattaya, although we became friends in between the sex she rarely ask me for anything from time to time short on rent etc. Like always they say they will pay back even work it off but it was never my thing to have my dick suck then tell her scratch off what you owe me. Nevertheless, from time to time she got mad for something stupid knowing my situation each party came and went as we please being friends she even threw me under the bus once.
Years later while working she met a Farang, told me this was her chance that she is going to do everything to make it work. The day before she was getting married at a Golf country I ran into her small talk even invited me to her wedding. I said no way good luck have a great life! Years later I riding my bike down a Soi I hear someone calling me to my surprise it was her that evening she pour her heart out to me as to what have happened to her that I was like the only one that knew. After her marriage to the Farang she immigrated to his home country met the family but to even a Thai the lost of face as to what he did. She pulled out her phone show me a video this video was sent to her it was her husband being fucked in the ass by a ladyboy. That night she was so distress and angry basically ask can I put a hit on him.
Meantime she was contemplating as to what to do, staying with a former bargirl, she no longer plus too old was cleaning rooms to get by after a few months came to me for some money so she can leave Pattaya and go back to her mom village to care for her had also an idea to sell use clothes at a market. Yes we continue to keep in touch she seem to be doing well although the mother had a few months back pass away. I happen to need to go to Bangkok to the Embassy for some business she said she would like to come meet and catch up but was actually using her friends phone since her broke and didn't have any money to buy one.
Thinking I had phone laying around not being used still worked fine so I took it to a shop and had it check out green light given no problem. When we met I surprised her said I got this phone you want it of course she accepted put her sim inside everything was working fine. A few hours later after catching up I hail down a Taxi, so she can return to the bus station gave her some traveling money while I walked away I turn around as the taxi drove away looking at her from the back window then I had a funny feeling come over me!. A few days later I try contacting her several times no answer no problem. The next morning I get an unknown call it was her older son explaining what had happen to her that the phone I gave her the battery had exploded in her face that she was currently Blind from the explosion that she was going to need an operation to try to restore her sight.
After a few weeks the son took her to his place to care but she was in a terrible state he felt guilty as a son all she had done to sacrifice to raise them didn't have the money to buy her even a cheap phone as for me I could have brought a hundred I-phones but I chose to give her a use one! Weeks later I get a call from her son that she had hung herself! There isn't a day that goes by since 2021 in spite of how things are here in Thailand about this former bargirl, harden to a point but still human as we all are!
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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2925678]
I am not a regular of Soi 6 (except the blow job bars). [/QUOTE]Hey SubC, what are the best of the blowjob bars along Soi 6 these days? What are the prices? Asking for a little friend.
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The Cmdr Says: Hold up!
[B]Everybody has a right to their own opinions, not to their own facts[/B]
The idea that greater choice is harder and more time consuming than less choice. Well that flys in the face of all of my life experiences and is not supported by the millions of tourists that spend their hard earned money to visit Bangkok and Pattaya each year. The come for the choices that are offered here in Pattaya. Now, if I am wrong I would like my brothers here to tell me such. Please tell me the would prefer less choices when the time comes to higher a prostitute for an hour, a few hours or the night.
I like [B]choice[/B].
The beauty and draw of Pattaya is choice: Agogos, Gentleman's Clubs, Blow Job Bars, Soapy Massage Places, Naughty Massage Places, Beer Bars, Thai Friendly, [B]Beach Road[/B], Central Mall, Terminal 21,7-11, Threesomes.
With all due respect, if anyone need less choice in order enjoy themselves in Pattaya. Stay home; watch porn; get yourself off. Me, I will take all the choice I get. Making those choices is half the fun. I have tried all the choices labeled above except for Soapy Massage and a Threesome.
In my personal experience I have not found the prices related to those choices to be a problem. In fact numerous choices along the entire price range is what makes Pattaya so appealing to me (and I suspect that it also makes Pattaya appealing to others). I spend the money I allocate for fun times according to the preferences and allowance within my disposable income.
If I had more disposable income maybe, just maybe I would exclusively hire Agogo girls as my prostitutes. But my internal value system would still not let me do that without increasing my sponsorship of those close to me that have been taking care of me the entire time I have been in Pattaya. I value loyalty!
I've have plans to have a 7-11 girl come over tonight. [B]Mr. E[/B] your postings on your experiences with them gave me perspective and your numbers were dead on. [B]Thank you[/B]!