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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Professor Stuart Brody [1] claims that unprotected penile-vaginal intercourse (PVI) can significantly boost men and women's mental wellbeing.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the good professor is right. Condoms can be a little depressing. But some of the bugs going around AC can really ruin your day.
Anyhow 'PVI' -- cool acronymn!
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Study: Sex Without Condoms Makes People Happier, Less Depressed[/QUOTE]I try not get into these condom/bare-back debates because some mongers/mongetts just don’t give a fuck and nothing is going to change that.
Maybe they should do a study on how happy people are with Herpes, HIV or unwanted babies....:(
[QUOTE=Loser In Makati]Just like to post a warning to all who head to the gogo bars in the Philippines. I went to the Philippines with my wife and kids. We stopped in a nice hotel in Makati before our flight to the province. They all fell asleep so I stepped out to venture the famous bar scene. Stopped in Montanas where girls are dancing on stage humm did not see any show to speak of. Had a few drinks was attacked by several ladies wanting me to buy them a drink. I got comfortable and asked a young model like girl to sit down. After a lot of drinks I made a deal with the mama (sorry someone in charge) for a private massage (real massage but hoped she would be topless) with the girl. Well there was a vip room upstairs so we went. This girl did an exceptional massage well I told her of my wife and kids and our Philippine journey to meet relatives. The massage ended and the girl proceeded to touch my penis still covered with underwear. It and myself got well excited. Thought a handjob might be ok (not thinking with brain). She said I want to fuck you took off her panties and on top of me she rode in a blink of an eye. I felt myself about to cum pushed and her off. Well 10 days later I find out I have herpes and so does my wife.
On our stopover back I go to bar to to inquire of my new gift for life only to learn (through girls drinks) the girl was new and does not have a medical certificate. Also one of the girls tells me that when a girl is infected her career and chances of going abroad are seriously jeopardized and they go on revenge craze to give back what was given to them. WTF. My wife became seriously ill I told her what went on she forgave me why I do not know. We are home recovering.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cansx]Friend of mine just emailed me he got hep be from a regular girl in makati. Bareback seems crazy to me. Does anybody know what they test the bar girls for, is it only hiv? A bar girl I meet in cebu didn't even know what herpes is. Very scary because I like daty. I guess no more.[/QUOTE]
To the old hands this maybe old news but to all you new guys out there you guys should try Crown condoms. I have tried them all Durex, Trojan, PI local brand LOL but I can testify Crown is where it is at. After a fairly recent encounter of the bar girl kind I had to keep checking to see if it had broken because of the sensation and no I am not on the payroll.
[QUOTE=John Traveller]Hello all!
As a first timer to Angeles I wonder if its possible to buy Viagra here without a prescription? If not is it it safe to buy on the streets? Or maybe the hotel employees can help?
I would appriciate all info on this.[/QUOTE]
Yes! No presription required.
It is usually safe to buy on the street, whether it works, is another question. They are probably fake, but some of them have the correct active ingredient. Don't pay more than P200 a box. Try it, if it works go back to the same vendor.
[QUOTE=Amavida]The dirty little secret of AC is that they almost all bareback without question. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you view such things..[/QUOTE]
It is not a dirty little secret of AC but of Phillipines in general.
Also I would not say as many as "almost all" bareback, some wait for your initiative to use one, if you don't, they don't either. Some will insist.
Like some another mongers have posted, I agree that pregnancy (not disease) is the main concern for them. If you wan't to go bareback please try not to get the girl pregnant without giving them some recourse if you do get them pregnant. Also try some alternatives, eg. sponge etc..
[QUOTE=Illogic]Sammon great post but guys like this are past caring about STDs any thoughts why?[/QUOTE]
It is not the question of why? Granted in most of the world nowadays hookers do not allow BBFS and many times do not do BBBJ.
Many good looking girls in AC do not do BBFS unless they become your friend after a while. I would really watch out for girls who really get drunk.
So when they go to southeast asia they feel free to indulge in bareback behaviour. Lots of us have done bareback once in a while because of various reasons with a prostitute. But to do it routinely is not good for them, the girls and other mongers.
There is no need to worry whether you fathered a child. Unless it is a relationship with a normal girl these AC girls do not even know who fathered their child. Even with a normal girl you are not really sure because she have a BF on the side and just to get money from you will tell you , you are the father and need to support the child. Do not support till the tests are done. Many people have been fooled by this.
Some of us formulate different reasons not to wear condoms. We complain that condoms do not fit them properly, ruin our sexual appetite, or prevent us from enjoying sex. I look at it this way…how many others have shot off in her! The odds are against me if I were to continue to not use one. And I KNOW the risks! We look her over, checking her out for any visible signs of sores, etc…but that does not mean she is clean. And also, maybe the guy is not clean and will now infect others! I’d rather have a BBBJCIM if she is good at it. Risks are there but not as much as in my opinion when compared to actually screwing. I would never ever trust a woman who is in the sex industry when she tells me that I am the only one! Yeah…I’m the only one at that time until I leave and she needs more money and hooks up with another! No matter what you believe, the majority of these women are seeing other men! And your best friend is also hitting on her and dipping into her!
Arriving in AC yesterday I became I pit puzzled. In the two bars I went into (Dolls House + Carousel) it seemed impossible to take any of the girls out, just talking going on in there. This in contrast to what I read in this forum. Or do I need to go to other bars, those at the perimeter road?
BTW, I like this map: [url]http://acmap.com/main.asp[/url]
Cheers
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]“We have a master list of these 12,000 women who are registered with the city government. The sad fact is that there are 12,000 more of them who can be classified freelance sex workers,” said Pineda.[/QUOTE]
Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.
I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.
And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=John Traveller]In the two bars I went into (Dolls House + Carousel) it seemed impossible to take any of the girls out[/QUOTE]Two of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.
Although I agree with Ekspat's comments, you do see some very hot women walking around in immodest clothing -- I assume they are in the trade, but they won't even say hello as you pass them on the street. You also see them driving relatively new scooters. I've come to the conclusion that a large percentage of the hottest bar girls in town are in temporary retirement because of some financial windfall. So, maybe that accounts for some of the freelancers.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat]Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.
I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.
And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Traveller]... it seemed impossible to take any of the girls out, just talking going on in there ... [/QUOTE]
JT:
you are writing correctly "it seemed..." and not "it is ..."! Although the bars you have mentioned are not my preferred places, I bet my life that lots of girls (>80%!?) would be most pleased to go out with you whenever you offer them a barfine! However, if ALL of them refuse you then you have indeed an issue! But this is more than unlikely, isn't it! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Betong]Two of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.[/QUOTE]You were right! I went to the bar Bodyshop. Not too much for drinks, 1500 barfine. I found a very nice girl here, and Im very satiesfied. Not much sleep this night!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Wondering where these 12,000 freelancers hide themselves everytime when I'm in AC.
I guess the numbers are from some NGO's who are in desperate need to make some alarming statements. Maybe because of taxpayers money isn't flowing that nicely anymore as earlier before the financial meltdown.
And NGO's don't care whether the numbers are correct or not, they use the repetition tactics. Repeat the numbers as often as possible in news or elsewhere, after some time it becomes a fact.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Working with Filipinos everyday I found that they will keep records (hand written) forever. So that list is probably 25 years old.:D That would also explains the 12,000 bar girls.
Its rather strange that you say you can not barfine at Dollhouse or Carousel. Especially at Dollhouse where there are so many to choose from and many go days and even a week without a barfine. Most would jump at chance to go with you. I have seen some guys with poor hygiene go out the door with some pretty decent looking spinners. Its all about the money. Now having said that I will tell you nomatter how smelly or rude you are there are select girls that will go out with anyone nomatter how fat, smelly, old, rude you are. I put that at 40%. Respect and hygeine will usually put your chances at 90 to almost 100% with anygirl. That being the exception of cherry girls. Even cherry girls can be had if you want to bf them a week, spoil them and treat them kind but that is risky if you get the cherry. Japanese guys have done there homework on this method. So not to be rude, if your having trouble getting barfine at these places I wonder what your doing wrong. I usually just visit these places with my existing bf whoever she is and have many ask to be bf from these places. I have ST before from both places but I think Dollhouse is to expensive and overrated compared to better and other girls at other bars.
Gosh. What a place that will never get my business. Friend of mine told me about the bull sh*t that went on there. Also read it from Jimmy Regina post. Was anyone at the pool party. Evidently the hotel did a poor public relations move and back out on there word where party was abruptly moved to Lewis Grand Hotel where all visitors were greeted with open arms. I guess Sydney Hotel back out on word of 1/2 price drinks for girls and also wanted to charge P100 a girl for use of pool which was alledgadly not what was agreed on and I guess other "bola bola" from hotel. If this is true I count the days that Sydney Hotel will be out of business. I even heard Sydney Hotel not allow 2 girls in room! Gosh is this true? Hmmmm. How the hell will a Hotel stay in business in AC if you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off enough mongers and have such strict guidelines. Thank God we have choice of so many other Hotels that will smile, allow us to have fun, and let us carry on with the show.