Seeking Arrangements

Maybe you should ask a friend who is a lawyer and get some free advice or suggestions. Otherwise, contacting a lawyer in a formal way is a hassle and rarely helpful since they are all looking for big payouts, even small shops.

But my 2 cents is that as long as you were not explict in your messages about exchanging sex for money with her, then you should be okay. For the stories that you told her about your sugar dating experience, just tell the authorities that you made that all up for her entertainment.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2779018]One of my the girls I met on SA in Bogota became a friend last year. We've exchanged stories from our perspectives in the sugar dating world and it's been quite useful to understand how the other side thinks and what their options are in terms of men.

Things get more complicated because she was stopped by Customs while entering the US a couple times, and detained for hours. She also unlocked her phone where all of our fun conversations were. She indicated the govt employees were very interested in me, not sure why.

While I'm pretty sure I haven't broken any laws, especially given that I haven't touched US soil in months, I'm wondering if it makes sense to prep a lawyer in case I'm detained for a few annoying hours while visiting the US next week. I'm leaning towards that it's not worth the $500 consultation fee because the chance is low and I'm a US citizen, but I'm wondering if anyone had similar experiences or other thoughts they'the want to share.

P.S. I've started using a timer on my WhatsApp messages so they're deleted automatically after 7 days. When a relationship becomes more stable, I'll move it to 90. What a hassle.[/QUOTE].

That's a good point. You're prob right.

Still, OP will be sweating next time he crosses a border:

[QUOTE=TheCane;2779057]I disagree and don't believe that this is the time to hire a lawyer. He doesn't have anything to talk to a lawyer about yet. Not unless there's something to this he isn't telling us. As he said, the fact of the matter is that it's highly unlikely that he will be stopped and asked anything. And if he is, then that's the time to listen (and not say much) because then he will have something to talk to a lawyer about afterwards. If stopped and questioned, at that point he should ask what it's all about and listen, and if he is being accused of something (they probably will be coy). And whether they say he is or he isn't being accused of something, he should just keep cool and keep his mouth shut and say nothing until he's had a chance to consult with a lawyer. I wouldn't even admit to knowing the girl. They won't be able to hold him as they have no grounds to do that. Again, that's assuming there isn't something about this we aren't being told. Going to a lawyer now would be a waste of time and money, even if the lawyer tries to rope him in with a "free" consultation. Those tend not to be worth s damn! Definitely one of those things where you get what you pay for. This is one of those situations where you get roped into somebody else's bullshit merely by association. It sucks, but not a time to panic and start paying legal fees when it's not clear he even has a legal problem yet, and based on what we know, not foreseeable that he will have one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2779018]One of my the girls I met on SA in Bogota became a friend last year. We've exchanged stories from our perspectives in the sugar dating world and it's been quite useful to understand how the other side thinks and what their options are in terms of men.

Things get more complicated because she was stopped by Customs while entering the US a couple times, and detained for hours. She also unlocked her phone where all of our fun conversations were. She indicated the govt employees were very interested in me, not sure why.

While I'm pretty sure I haven't broken any laws, especially given that I haven't touched US soil in months, I'm wondering if it makes sense to prep a lawyer in case I'm detained for a few annoying hours while visiting the US next week. I'm leaning towards that it's not worth the $500 consultation fee because the chance is low and I'm a US citizen, but I'm wondering if anyone had similar experiences or other thoughts they'the want to share.

P.S. I've started using a timer on my WhatsApp messages so they're deleted automatically after 7 days. When a relationship becomes more stable, I'll move it to 90. What a hassle.[/QUOTE]I guess what's not clear to me is how they would even link you to her. They were looking at "some guys messages" on the phone. Did they take down the number? (Seems unlikely). Or note the contact name (I would hope your not using your real name when doing girl enthusiast stuff). Even if it was your real name you would just say it must be some other Ted Ferguson. You have never met the girl.

Clearly scary but seems a very tenuous thread from her to you. And they have real criminals to catch and no time for ticky tacky bullshit. So fwiw I think you are fine. And if you did use your real name stop doing that!

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2779018]She also unlocked her phone where all of our fun conversations were. She indicated the govt employees were very interested in me, not sure why.[/QUOTE]I am. They are pursuing a human trafficking angle and want to fleece you. The Feds can take any assets associated with suspected trafficking without a warrant. I heard a well known sex worker say she knew thousands of sex workers and she did not know one who was trafficked which sounds right to me. I would not hire a lawyer but I would steer the hell away of helping any women move between the states and definitely not move any women between countries. This is the Feds at work:

[URL]https://www.insider.com/man-who-had-30000-seized-by-dea-get-money-back-2021-10[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10271747/Marine-sues-DEA-entire-life-savings-87K-confiscated-him.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.retreatbehavioralhealth.com/blog/dea-takes-mans-life-savings-for-alleged-drug-offense/[/URL]

Customs are looking thus for a Mann Act Violation: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL].

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2779018]While I'm pretty sure I haven't broken any laws, especially given that I haven't touched US soil in months, I'm wondering if it makes sense to prep a lawyer in case I'm detained for a few annoying hours while visiting the US next week. I'm leaning towards that it's not worth the $500 consultation fee because the chance is low and I'm a US citizen, but I'm wondering if anyone had similar experiences or other thoughts they'the want to share.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I met a lawyer off seeking in Mexico and flew here into the USA, and customs harassed the shit out of her probably because of the way she dresses. From what I understand, these customs agents are rewarded with raises if they make a bust on what is being emphasized, and the government has a hard on for trafficking now. They asked Who bought the ticket? How long have you been dating? Where did you meet? She was in tears when I finally met her.

It is kind of funny though about the laws they do not emphasize. When I got Global Entry, they went through this long list of stuff about how global entry could be revoked but the big one was bringing in booze without paying the taxes due on it.

I would not hire a lawyer, and I doubt they will detain you but if they do, know what the Mann Act is and understand they are going to try to trip you up into admitting you violated that law.

I know this has been discussed before but I feel like a public service announcement is due as my goal here is to maximize everyone's experience with the ladies.

First. Why do it?

1. Because it will increase your odds of BLS by at least 5 X. And not just with SA girls but with pros also. A clean sack is the single most important inducement to ball sucking heaven.

2. The girls enjoy it way more. This is a win win. You make her happy AND she spends way more than just s quick tongue flick down there.

3. It FEELS better. I estimate 3 X better feel with slippery clean balls vs hairy.

Second. How to do it.

1. Do NOT use hair remover. Stings like fuck. And will make your sack s red mess no one is sucking for at least a week.

2. You are only going to do the main part of the sack and a bit up the shaft. Do NOT do between your sack and legs.

3. By far easiest to do when you have a hard on for two reasons. One. Your sack tightens up and is not all flopping around. Two. Easier to control the shaft and shave the lower part.

4. Use a Venus ladies razor. Amazing.

5. Only put cream on with your dominant hand and then use that hand for shaving. Keep your other hand clean to grab the shaft which helps manipulate the whole affair.

6. Shave both sides independently. Take care near the middle seam.

And voila. Only takes me about 2 minutes now and always on point.

P.S. For those married dudes, if your wife is BJing you she can't help but notice so that might be a problem. But for us in sexless marriages you cannot SEE any visual diffference from just walking around naked. Which is sweet.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2779296]I know this has been discussed before but I feel like a public service announcement is due as my goal here is to maximize everyone's experience with the ladies. First. Why do it? Because it will increase your odds of BLS by at least 5 X. And not just with SA girls but with pros also. A clean sack is the single most important inducement to ball sucking heaven. How to do it. Do NOT use hair remover. Stings like fuck. Use a Venus ladies razor. Amazing. Only takes me about 2 minutes now and always on point.[/QUOTE]Oh man I love getting my nuts sucked! Thing is, I never knew I did until I became a monger and started going to Costa Rica where the Colombianas would suckle on these here nuts! Haha! Then I started going to Brazil and noticed how the Brasilieras were even more into taking a nose dive for them nuts! And another "weird" thing I noticed in Europe was that it was the Polish girls who liked to suckle at my nuts more than any other nationality over there LOL! I've always been one to use hair removers because it was quick and easy. But like you say, it can burn like hell. Ouch!

So usually what I would do is use the hair remover just a couple of days before departure on my trip as the discomfort typically lasts only a couple of days. Applying some soothing lotion always helps, and by the day it's time to fly, I'm good to go! I've never thought about using a ladies razor. In fact, I have never seriously considered using any kind of razor down there. I say again. [B]Ouch[/B]! Do the ladies use a Venus razor on their cootchies like that? I guess if it's safe for them to do that then it should be safe for these here nuts too! Ha! I'll give it a try. But if I cut my scrotum bro? You got a cursing out a coming! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2779170]I am. They are pursuing a human trafficking angle and want to fleece you. The Feds can take any assets associated with suspected trafficking without a warrant. I heard a well known sex worker say she knew thousands of sex workers and she did not know one who was trafficked which sounds right to me. I would not hire a lawyer but I would steer the hell away of helping any women move between the states and definitely not move any women between countries. This is the Feds at work:

[URL]https://www.insider.com/man-who-had-30000-seized-by-dea-get-money-back-2021-10[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10271747/Marine-sues-DEA-entire-life-savings-87K-confiscated-him.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.retreatbehavioralhealth.com/blog/dea-takes-mans-life-savings-for-alleged-drug-offense/[/URL]

Customs are looking thus for a Mann Act Violation: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL].

Yeah, I met a lawyer off seeking in Mexico and flew here into the USA, and customs harassed the shit out of her probably because of the way she dresses. From what I understand, these customs agents are rewarded with raises if they make a bust on what is being emphasized, and the government has a hard on for trafficking now. They asked Who bought the ticket? How long have you been dating? Where did you meet? She was in tears when I finally met her.

It is kind of funny though about the laws they do not emphasize. When I got Global Entry, they went through this long list of stuff about how global entry could be revoked but the big one was bringing in booze without paying the taxes due on it.

I would not hire a lawyer, and I doubt they will detain you but if they do, know what the Mann Act is and understand they are going to try to trip you up into admitting you violated that law.[/QUOTE]Interesting Elvis. I already knew it's a bad idea to invite a hooker to cross state lines or visit the USA because of the Mann Act and FOSTA. But the thought that it could affect sugar babies too never crossed my mind.

You provided a link to a description of the Mann Act above. Here's relevant language from FOSTA.

"Whoever, using a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce...with the intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both."

[URL]https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865/text[/URL]

A little off the topic, in Texas, as you probably know, it's now a state jail felony to see any prostitute.

Good links, thanks. It's crazy the government can just take your money without proving anything.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2779296]I know this has been discussed before but I feel like a public service announcement is due as my goal here is to maximize everyone's experience with the ladies.

First. Why do it?

1. Because it will increase your odds of BLS by at least 5 X. And not just with SA girls but with pros also. A clean sack is the single most important inducement to ball sucking heaven.

2. The girls enjoy it way more. This is a win win. You make her happy AND she spends way more than just s quick tongue flick down there.

3. It FEELS better. I estimate 3 X better feel with slippery clean balls vs hairy.

Second. How to do it.

1. Do NOT use hair remover. Stings like fuck. And will make your sack s red mess no one is sucking for at least a week..[/QUOTE]Yes, I shave and clean myself downstairs before the deed. It goes along way to getting those nuts sucked on. I use the Manscaped shaver and works fast no nics. They also toss in a deodorant for nuts that smells nice.

I'm leaving next week for a solo moto tour of Mexico and, after reading about all the successes here, I had it in mind to try and hook up with someone 1/4th my age on SA. I'm hesitating because of the fear of getting outed somehow. On Tinder, I felt somewhat protected because I could limit who saw my photo to a defined distance, say five miles. I don't see that option on SA. It seems unlikely, but my wife does have younger, single friends. Question is, who can see my photo on SA? Should I wait until I actually get deep into Mexico before I set up the account, or is there someway to limit who can see you?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2779455]I'm leaving next week for a solo moto tour of Mexico and, after reading about all the successes here, I had it in mind to try and hook up with someone 1/4th my age on SA. I'm hesitating because of the fear of getting outed somehow. On Tinder, I felt somewhat protected because I could limit who saw my photo to a defined distance, say five miles. I don't see that option on SA. It seems unlikely, but my wife does have younger, single friends. Question is, who can see my photo on SA? Should I wait until I actually get deep into Mexico before I set up the account, or is there someway to limit who can see you?[/QUOTE]Unless you are a famous person it's almost impossible for someone you know to see you on SA. At your age I mean come on. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2779455]I'm leaving next week for a solo moto tour of Mexico and, after reading about all the successes here, I had it in mind to try and hook up with someone 1/4th my age on SA. I'm hesitating because of the fear of getting outed somehow. On Tinder, I felt somewhat protected because I could limit who saw my photo to a defined distance, say five miles. I don't see that option on SA. It seems unlikely, but my wife does have younger, single friends. Question is, who can see my photo on SA? Should I wait until I actually get deep into Mexico before I set up the account, or is there someway to limit who can see you?[/QUOTE]You can post private photos that no one can see unless you give them permission. In your situation it might also be wise to use a different location than where you actually live. Scammers have been known to pose as female members, hijack photos, and put them on the internet. You pay them some money and they take them down. These sites are organized by city though, so if you say you live in Duluth but you're really in New Orleans it's very unlikely friends or family would see the photos.

I wasn’t able to set up a SA account when traveling in Europe. I think it was because I was using a U.S. credit card as I believe I tried using a VPN, and tried indicating I lived in Europe. You might have a similar problem if you try to sign up in Mexico.

A 79 year old man who is going to bang girls 1/4 his age and who needs to keep this secret from his wife.

I only have 2 things to say.

1. I want to be you when I'm 79.

2. I want to get a beer with you.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2779455]I'm leaving next week for a solo moto tour of Mexico and, after reading about all the successes here, I had it in mind to try and hook up with someone 1/4th my age on SA. I'm hesitating because of the fear of getting outed somehow. On Tinder, I felt somewhat protected because I could limit who saw my photo to a defined distance, say five miles. I don't see that option on SA. It seems unlikely, but my wife does have younger, single friends. Question is, who can see my photo on SA? Should I wait until I actually get deep into Mexico before I set up the account, or is there someway to limit who can see you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2779564]You can post private photos that no one can see unless you give them permission. In your situation it might also be wise to use a different location than where you actually live. Scammers have been known to pose as female members, hijack photos, and put them on the internet. You pay them some money and they take them down. These sites are organized by city though, so if you say you live in Duluth but you're really in New Orleans it's very unlikely friends or family would see the photos.

I wasnt able to set up a SA account when traveling in Europe. I think it was because I was using a U.S. credit card as I believe I tried using a VPN, and tried indicating I lived in Europe. You might have a similar problem if you try to sign up in Mexico.[/QUOTE]Better yet don't post any photos in your profile. No lead photo. No hidden photos. I have been doing this wildly successfully for four years now and have NO photos posted on the site at all. No chance of being outted that way. I do cover this in my profile saying that I am an executive and have to be discreet so no photos on site but glad to send.

And then depending how conservative you want to be you can either send a girl a photo thru the site as part of a message or you can say you aren't comfortable posting photos on the site and move them to WhatsApp. Not a problem for s girl worth her salt.

And yes you can def put your city as elsewhere. I am moving my city around all the time depending where I am headed next.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2779589]...I do cover this in my profile saying that I am an executive and have to be discreet so no photos on site but glad to send...I am moving my city around all the time depending where I am headed next.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the superb advice, which I've come to expect from (90%) of this forum. I'm kind of tempted just to tell the truth -- I've been married for forty years and, while I haven't had sex with my wife in almost twenty years, I don't want to embarass her.

I will report back with the results.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2779598]Thanks for all the superb advice, which I've come to expect from (90%) of this forum. I'm kind of tempted just to tell the truth -- I've been married for forty years and, while I haven't had sex with my wife in almost twenty years, I don't want to embarass her.

I will report back with the results.[/QUOTE]We are in very similar situations. Me no wife sex for 25+ years. For "status" I used Open Relationship, as there is no real good fit. I am not "Married but Looking" (I'm not planning to change my marriage sitch) nor am I single.

I have some girls ask if I'm married and I explain yes but it's sexless. Generally they are appalled and did not know such things exist! And quite sympathetic. So it's usually positive when disclosed.