Jakarta

You are being most generous - she should be a premium on-demand GFE/PSE. I had a squeeze staying in a very nice kost (rooming house) in kota for USD250/month - furnished, aircon, laundry and 24/7 security. The USD500 "salary" you are giving her is the equivalent of 3x a secretary salary - close to an entry level university grad. That being said, if it is not breaking the bank and you get all the sex-on-demand you can handle, then you are not being over the top if she uses that money to look good (clothes/salon/etc.) for you.

Of course you will "save" a bundle if you go up to kota, grab a girl at TC or Travel or blah-blah-blah place. Rp600k for girl/check-in is way generous and that gives you the equivalent of 10-12 rounds in kota for the equivalent cost of maintaining your squeeze. And you get plenty of variety!

However, if you have your squeeze trained right (i.e. she services you just the way you want), then why not keep her and take some kota action on the side? You sound like a sexpat, so you can afford it. Besides, ususally when you have a wife the most important thing is time management - you need a provider that will give you that perfect quickie so you can get back to the Miss fresh. Just make sure your squeeze doesn't use a lot of perfume! ;)

Enjoy life in Jakarta! AsianRain

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?[/QUOTE]

Ar and Gonzo Two, thanks for feedback. I'm not the best at negotiation, but the sex is fabulous and convenient. As AR points out, if you are married, time management is the key, especially with Jakarta's badly clogged roads. Quality and time matter much more than money to me. No, she's not from Bandung. But that certainly doesn't mean that you haven't met her, Gonzo! As readers of this forum and residents here know, girlfriends/mistresses/squeezes or whatever you want to call them are not normally faithful to their boyfriends. I've send more than one young lady off to the airport meet her boyfriend overseas after a throughout workout. Legally married women are much more likely to be faithful.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Legally married women are much more likely to be faithful.[/QUOTE]

As someone previously married to a legally married woman, I'm not sure that my experience leads me to agree. But it sounds like the deal you've got going is working for you. Good on ya!

Wondering if anyone could talk me through the Mal Atrium scene -- who it is and how it works?

mmmm, I'm sorry but I like to understand fine. I always read differences between Thailandia (Pattaya) and Indonesia (Jakarta). All the people always tell that Thailandia is wonderful for sex but Jakarta is better for girl friend experience. But .... here, on this Jakarta forum I always read about paying for fucking. People go to Night clubs, Travel hotel, Kota, Block M, etc, etc. Perhaps is it better Thailandia than Indonesia for fucking? Where is real difference between them? mmmmm
Reading these posts I like Jakarta less. ;)
Why do I have to choose Jakarta instead of Pattaya? Why?
I thank you!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Why do I have to choose Jakarta instead of Pattaya? Why?[/QUOTE]Of course you don't have to choose Jakarta. Just go to Thailandia like everyone else. Jakarta isn't really geared for sex tourists nor would it be the same if it were. You won't get a girlfriend here... you will pay one way or another like everyone else.

Unless you have been to Jakarta and tried the situation you will never know. I would try to explain it so you understand fine, but I can't type that slow. Enjoy Thailandia, AsianRain

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Anybody know if Asia Air is/was offering promotional flights of $41 usd from Jakarta to Bangkok ? A German guy was telling me about it, but I can't seem to find anything on the website at that rate. Maybe it's dead and gone. :([/QUOTE]

Deal gone. But they are always coming and going....you must check a couple of times a week.

I have just booked JetStar/ValueAir Singapore to Jakarta for SGD $78 return (about USD 50) all in.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes, bro- experience, have been doing so for a long time. The advice, think about it. Because a- it's a lot of work looking after two girls. b- sooner or later she may get suspicious about your activities in jkt or at home and chances of her being repeatedly unfaithful becomes next to 100 percent. c- if you want to break up later with her, where is she going to go. Most mistresses have little or no income of themselves and booting the lovely gal out on the streets, you may need a heart as cold as ice. Best.

Have a Jakarta trip upcoming and whilst theres a few freebies I always enjoy a nice massage with a SYT now and again. Had a good session in Fortune last year but can't remember prices.

I remember theres two types of rooms, more expensive ones with shower etc.

Anyone been there recently and know current prices.

Its that or the hotels in Menteng but seem to always get the older woman in those places.

Anyone got any other good recommendations for massage near to Le Meridien?

Many Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tommy Suharto]Yes, bro- experience, have been doing so for a long time. The advice, think about it. Because a- it's a lot of work looking after two girls. b- sooner or later she may get suspicious about your activities in jkt or at home and chances of her being repeatedly unfaithful becomes next to 100 percent. c- if you want to break up later with her, where is she going to go. Most mistresses have little or no income of themselves and booting the lovely gal out on the streets, you may need a heart as cold as ice. Best.[/QUOTE]Why keep a cow when u can have fresh milk everyday.

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Jakarta isn't really geared for sex tourists nor would it be the same if it were.[/QUOTE]

I think that's it in a nutshell. Just personal, of course, and no judgement on anyone else, but I always find that Phnom Penh and Bangkok bar scene a bit tacky, with all those guys coming in for their two week sex tours. Blok M is really much more an expat-and-insider kind of place. Maybe that shows in the girls' attitudes, too - they know that they may be seeing the same faces again, so there's the grudging respect that any vendor gives a customer who may be coming back.

Kinda like the difference between the vendors on Kuta beach - where they are dealing with the mass tourist market - and the ones on Seminyak - where they are dealing more with expats and regulars. It shows.

[QUOTE]Anyone been there recently and know current prices.

Its that or the hotels in Menteng but seem to always get the older woman in those places.

Anyone got any other good recommendations for massage near to Le Meridien?

Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]there are three types of rooms: superior, deluxe, and suite (basically a hotel room with a bed). Massage is 300K for 2 sessions (1.5 hours) in superior and deluxe rooms; don't know the suite prices. Extras negotiable. Available extras depend upon the girl. HJ always available, sometimes BJ, FJ and body massage. Not cheap; they will ask 300K for HJ and on up. But the girls are cute.

For legit massage usually with no extras on offer, try Jaspa in Ambassador Mall nearby. Entrance in front of the at ground level.

[QUOTE=William Saw]Why keep a cow when u can have fresh milk everyday.[/QUOTE]The girl is milking me, not the other way around!

It is not my habit to comment on a fellowmember. But, as I noticed that Foxeshunter keeps asking the same or silly questions without any FR since 2007, I feel I had to. He does it in other threads too!

Take his postings with a grain, or better, a sack of salt. I think he only travels in his fantasy!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Blok M is really much more an expat-and-insider kind of place. Maybe that shows in the girls' attitudes, too - they know that they may be seeing the same faces again, so there's the grudging respect that any vendor gives a customer who may be coming back.

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Still a true enough situation but as a "regular" whom pops down to the Blok 2-3 times a week almost every week for the last 7 years, the "sex tourist" is alive and well and on the increase, and the girls know it. No where near other places but Jakarta is definitely on the map for guys traveling for mongering only as opposed to business plus the perk of mongering.
My 5 cents worth.