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[QUOTE=Iseeu]Inventory Report: Can't balance the books as I'm in debt to this forum for about 10 visit reports that I haven’t had a chance to write and post.[/QUOTE]


I likely speak for many in saying that we enjoy and appreciate your reports, and they're worth the wait. At the rate things are going, I may get my Bernds December reports posted before you catch up! ;)


I may not have 10 distinct picks but in the interest of re-affirming some favorites and putting some new names out for discussion, I present my own list:
1. Anna, from Poland, Bernds
2. Gabriela, from Venezuela, Oase
3. Stephanie, from Colombia, Oase
4. Sandra, from Germany, Bernds
5. Erika, from Romania, Bernds
The rest of the list, in no particular order:

Four of the remaining 5 are Bernds girls: Alex from Bulgaria, Babsi from Germany/Mara from Holland, Rita from Belarus. Debby from Germany (ex-Bernds, now at Parksauana Residenz) rounds out the top 10.

Yes, the list is concentrated on 2 venues, but I say that if you find places with a great atmosphere and quality service, stick with them! There’s no need to fix what ain’t broke.


[QUOTE=Iseeu]May your sessions always be long and may your sperm count never wither![/QUOTE]

I'm sure the SPs wish the former to all readers as well. :) Happy New Year to one and all, with additional thanks to Jackson for all of your hard work keeping this forum running smoothly!

May your 2010 sessions be rich in GFE!

All the best in 2010 to mongers wherever you choose to practice our hobby.

It has been a great one, and I can hardly wait to get back into the towel and clubs this year. Met a number of really stand-up (in every sense of the word) fellow practitioners. You know who you are, you reprobates.

Indeed, every club visit is a learning experience and every girl going in to the room is my current favorite until she or I demonstrates otherwise.

Here is to many, many more in pastures new and old.

To Jackson, thanks for making it so much easier and fun on a global scale.

Final comment for 2010 to self, with apologies to a monger who frequents Argentina: " Sperm Management". `Nuff said.

E.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hello Toscana, if she has top model body, decent english and strong tanned, she is the one I saw on Xmas. ( not sure about the name, but the one I chatted a bit, was from Serbia, that's I remember. Also very tall and reminded me that Serbia is the country in Europe with higher female average height)

I am just curious, where I can find your report about her or how she is in bed ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Lukasek,

I think your Eva that you saw working at FKK World on Christmas day, 25 December 2009 was the lady I have listed as Eva (Croatia) who is tall, has a dark tanned, long brown hair pass her shoulders with some bleach blond streaks, enhanced breasts to C cup at least, leggy, bee sting lips, porno star look. She does not appear to hunt for customers much but tends to stay in the main bar area.

Eva (Serbia) is slim, dark hair to her neck line, A cup breasts, well leggy, firm arse which I find her best asset. She constantly is hunting for bears by walking both floors of World.

As Toscana says World has an excess of Evas when clubs try to ensure girls have different names so that they themselves can tell one from the other and also not to confuse guests when looking for girls.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]...Eva (Croatia) who is tall, has a dark tanned, long brown hair pass her shoulders with some bleach blond streaks, enhanced breasts to C cup at least, leggy, bee sting lips, porno star look. She does not appear to hunt for customers much but tends to stay in the main bar area...[/QUOTE]

Basketcase,

right, I was wrong, from your detailed description she was Eva Croatia, as porn star look, all the time in bar area and so on.... btw did you sessioned her ?

I was in doubt, as she looks good, but I was afraid too much professional.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]
Thanks for the list and the reporting on the Artemis scene.

Interesting point that may need some explanation is your list containing a high number of Frankfurt based or orginating sex workers given that you are a regular at Artemis. Is there something in the Frankfurt clubs that may be attributable here?[/QUOTE]

A good question Basketcase. And believe me one that I have given much consideration.

First, as Iseeu notes I did have some help with the selection process while on my October tour. And much appreciated as I have noted before.

But I can also point out that once Iseeu had left Oase I didn't do too, too badly on my own selection at Oase (Rebecca, Janey-both of whom gave me better than average sessions) and I do seem to do well on a regular basis at Artemis, my "home" club.

I often find that we can get a wee bit over analytical about these things. If a club works for you it works. End of story really for me.

For me Artemis works mainly because it is the one and only club within easy access to where I live, Berlin. But I am also the first to admit that Artemis has its' problems. The girls there tend towards being processors. They generally want to get you to the room as fast as possible with as little pre-session warm up as they can get away with.

The reason for this, I think, is that Artemis is very much a tourist destination. It has its' regulars (yours truly for instance) but if you look around on any given day, many of the punters are obviously from out of town. So the girls can get away with giving less than stellar service and still make their money. After a while it sort of becomes the club culture and part of how it operates. And there really isn't anywhere else to go unless you hop an ICE to Frankfurt.

Oase has two other top FKK within a half hour drive. The girls must realize this even if only on a subconscious level and thus the whole slump of service never really happens. The punters keep them honest.

I for one have really started to be much more selective in my girl selection at Artemis.I will not support the lousy rushed service that some girls want to give. I have my regular providers and I am always on the look out for new girls who might give better service. I found one this past visit-Tiziana-who it seems is an Oase girl doing Artemis as a side trip.

In the long run I think it is up to the customer (us punters) to not put up with the girls' antics and lousy service. Even if that means saying "no" to a real beauty who plops herself in your lap and wiggles her tits in your face. If she gives no indication of otherwise giving good service, and if she balks at a "get to know ya" pre-session snog-she does not get an invitation to a more intimate session.

But in defense of the girls I also have to note that I do sympathize with them to a degree. When I first met Liz, and invited her to a lie down on the sofa she did pull back when my hands began to roam. I questioned her on this and she indicated that I might just be in it for a free feel. I had to assure her that I was serious in my intentions (Jesus-sounds like a commitment...) to take her to a room.

But my point is that, at Artemis at least, there are tons of guys who do think that they can monopolize a girl's time, feel her up and then ditch her with no room time. It happens a lot my regular providers tell me. This makes them skittish about the pre-session time that us aficionados so value.

So I also have to take a look at my own actions and make sure that I do have some true intention to take her to a room before I let my hands go roaming and expecting a tongue kiss from a girl. They may be girls who are selling their services, but they are also girls who deserve the same respect I would afford any other girl I meet.

End of lecture.

Have fun.

AM

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Basketcase,

right, I was wrong, from your detailed description she was Eva Croatia, as porn star look, all the time in bar area and so on.... btw did you sessioned her ?

I was in doubt, as she looks good, but I was afraid too much professional.[/QUOTE]

Hey,

If you like her looks, then you probably missed out on a good time. Eva is professional, but in the best sense of the word. I've always had good times with her and have never (or rarely) heard anyone complain about her. In fact, I know one experienced cocksman who can be pretty difficult to please and Eva is not his type. However he pulled the trigger with her and was pretty satisfied with the results.

I had the same fear when I initially saw her as she comes off a bit distant, but I was quite surprised and more than happy with her performance. She's very sexy, friendly and knows how to make it happen in the room. Smokin' body if you like bolt-ons, and great wheels.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who is about to pay World a New Year's visit.

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey,

If you like her looks, then you probably missed out on a good time....[/QUOTE]

Thanks Dedalus, I am not happy to read I was wrong, but good to know it, as yes, definetely I loved her beauty, not chance to warm up, so I did not take her.

Best regards

My top ten hit parade for 2009


1- Anna, Belarus, World. I think I was the only one to report about her here, at the Dutch forum in all reports guys rave about her. Brunette, long straight hair, blue eyes, late twenties/early 30s, about 1,65m. Reported to be at the club early December.
2-Alexandra, Russia, GT, curly blond hair, 1,70m, still at the club.
3- Melissa, Kirghistan, GT, a legend, took me ages to book her cause she is always busy. Deserves all her reputation and more.
4- Dalia, German, GT, brown hair, apparently quit.
5- Leona, German, GT, brunette, beautiful face and body, 1,70m, still at the club.
6- Jana, Poland, GT, petite blond, 100% GFE.
7- Luciana, Albania, FKK 39, blond, 1,70m
8- Timea, Hungary, Oase, well known here.
9- Angelika, Poland, GT, tall blond, long straight hair. Did her in September, she is reported to be working now at Villa Marisol.
10- Cassandra, Russia, GT, bleached blond, disappeared but was recently seen at Living Room on a Saturday.

7 out of 10 at Golden Time so I do not have to write which was my favorite club in 2009...

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I often find that we can get a wee bit over analytical about these things. If a club works for you it works. End of story really for me.[/QUOTE]Wise words.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]The reason for this, I think, is that Artemis is very much a tourist destination. It has its' regulars (yours truly for instance) but if you look around on any given day, many of the punters are obviously from out of town. So the girls can get away with giving less than stellar service and still make their money. After a while it sort of becomes the club culture and part of how it operates. And there really isn't anywhere else to go unless you hop an ICE to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Palace, which I like, has a similar reputation. Of course I am considered a minor regular as I am there every few months. I tend to get as good of service there as any of the other clubs I visit. I have a good business story as to why I am there. Basically, I don't come off as a once in a lifetime sex tourist.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Oase has two other top FKK within a half hour drive. The girls must realize this even if only on a subconscious level and thus the whole slump of service never really happens. The punters keep them honest.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree. Oase has a larger line up than Palace, but I've had a few train wreck sessions over the years there as well. The last time a girl attempted banditry on me was a couple of years ago at Oase. I've also been asked a few times by new girls "Is this your first time here? " which in my FKK to English dictionary translates "May I extract as many Euro as possible from you providing as little service as possible? "

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I for one have really started to be much more selective in my girl selection at Artemis. I will not support the lousy rushed service that some girls want to give. I have my regular providers and I am always on the look out for new girls who might give better service. I found one this past visit-Tiziana-who it seems is an Oase girl doing Artemis as a side trip.[/QUOTE]The fact that you are a regular and repeat with girls tips the scales in your favor. New girls understand the session is an audition for repeat status and you will tend to get their A game.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]In the long run I think it is up to the customer (us punters) to not put up with the girls' antics and lousy service. Even if that means saying "no" to a real beauty who plops herself in your lap and wiggles her tits in your face. If she gives no indication of otherwise giving good service, and if she balks at a "get to know ya" pre-session snog-she does not get an invitation to a more intimate session.[/QUOTE]Again, wise words. It's all about how you carry yourself and are perceived in a club. The girls have a lot of down time and they are observing us. I've had one girl (a regular) tell me she noticed I never take her for my first session, but only my second or third. There was a reason, but I was surprised she was watching my choices that closely.

The other thing is the girls talk among themselves. Be a good customer (clean, friendly, polite) and you will be rewarded.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]But in defense of the girls I also have to note that I do sympathize with them to a degree. When I first met Liz, and invited her to a lie down on the sofa she did pull back when my hands began to roam. I questioned her on this and she indicated that I might just be in it for a free feel. I had to assure her that I was serious in my intentions (Jesus-sounds like a commitment.) to take her to a room.

So I also have to take a look at my own actions and make sure that I do have some true intention to take her to a room before I let my hands go roaming and expecting a tongue kiss from a girl. They may be girls who are selling their services, but they are also girls who deserve the same respect I would afford any other girl I meet.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on that as well. It's all about being polite. If a girl sits down next to me that I am not interested in sessioning with (now or later), I'll put my arm around her and chat with her for a minute or two, but no feeling up. And I avoid kissing (other than the polite hello-goodbye variety) if the girl is not in the running for a session.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Regards,

EL

Have you ever met an FKK girl with a striking resemblance to a bona fide celebrity, much more that a similiarity to one of many porn stars?

No, I am not talking like someone similar to Rosanne or Mimi, but rather someone like Eva Longoria (who I'd like to find).

Also, thank you for posting your top 10 girls from 2009. Hopefully I will meet and enjoy a few of them during my mid-Feb tour. And no, I won't reveal that they are so and so's favorite, if and when I do meet them.

I want to thank those who kindly offered their guidance and advice to some questions I posted here. And hopefully, I can return a little of their generosity by posting my experience as an FKK newbie.

My general plan is to fly into FRA on the morning of 2/8 and take the S8/S5 train to Oase, spending the day until I have to leave in the early evening to catch a late plane out of FRA. I gave up trying to get to DUS by train or car for an early morning flight from DUS. It wasn't allowing me to stay later at Oase by taking a DUS flight the next morning, plus I'll get a good night of sleep before work on 2/9 that way, also. I am sure that staying at Oase from 10 am to 7 pm should be enough for a first experience there.

BTW, I found a good site with the train timetables at [url]http://www.rmv.de/auskunft/bin/jp/stboard.exe/en?L=vs_rmv&newrequest=yes&[/url]

On the return, I'll fly into DUS on 2/17 and rent a car. My plan is to spend a day at The Hof with the potential of a second day there. Other tour venues could include GT, Samya, Babylon, and possibly LR, Mettmann, Grimsberg, or Chilly Time. But I know I won't be able to make an appearance at all of them - for various reasons, lol.

For starters, I am planning on The Hof for Weds, Samya/Babylon on Thurs, and back at The Hof for Friday. If I like what I see and experience, I would tend to stay in one place rather than hop all over, spending money on entrance fees. But this plan may change based on circumstances, if for example I decide to forgo a second day at The Hof for a day at GT, probably on Friday 2/19?

For a finale on 2/20, I plan to spend an extended day back at Oase, until closing at 5 am, taking the car back to FRA in the morning.

If any ISG'rs happen into me, be sure to say hi and perhaps we can compare notes and hang together for awhile. I'll be the guy in the white towel. I'd be glad to give you a ride if you happen to be headed in the same direction as I am.

Based on what I have learned here, I'll be able to be selective to a certain extent and possibly avoid the barenjaegers.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I just discovered by reading the ISG board that the timing of my trip coincides with Carnival. Most of the tour to occur on Feb 17-20. Is it so bad (lack of girls) that I should abort the plan, or not? I have no choice on the range of dates, because I am mixing business and pleasure.[/QUOTE]

It is my hope that someday I can be in Cologne for Carnival/Fasching. I hear it's a great party. I have friends who were accosted and kissed by hot women on the street during Carnival. Yeah, mild stuff for the crew here but it's not something that happens to me very often. Like never.

Rufus

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Not sure I agree. Oase has a larger line up than Palace, but I've had a few train wreck sessions over the years there as well. The last time a girl attempted banditry on me was a couple of years ago at Oase. I've also been asked a few times by new girls "Is this your first time here? " which in my FKK to English dictionary translates "May I extract as many Euro as possible from you providing as little service as possible? "[/QUOTE]

Hi EL,

I think we more or less agree. But remember, I do not say that you can not have disastrous session at Oase, just that the culture there struck me as a wee bit kinder, gentler and more conducive to the type of session I normally seek. The girls did seem a bit more customer service oriented as displayed by their custom of asking me if I wanted a drink and going to get it for me.

At Artemis this is almost unheard of and it is a nice touch that costs them nothing.

Also when a girl asks me if it is my first time-sometimes, no doubt, it is a way of her gauging me. But at other times, I am sure, it is just a girl looking for a conversational gambit.

I have been accused of being a wee bit naive when it comes to working girls. While I am not a complete pushover, I do tend to take them at face value and not look for deeper meaning in what they say. After all, if they are looking to fleece someone, I for one would hope that they find someone with a few more fleece-able assets than yours truly. And I have been know to tell a young lovely just that.



[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]The other thing is the girls talk among themselves. Be a good customer (clean, friendly, polite) and you will be rewarded.[/QUOTE]

God Damm EL-I'm so clean, friendly & polite I sometimes wonder why there isn't a line-up forming to the left of girls who want to pay me to take them to the room...

But seriously, the above is very true. The rewards are often subtle, but they are there.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern] I have a good business story as to why I am there. Basically, I don't come off as a once in a lifetime sex tourist.[/QUOTE]Frankfurt is a good place for that since many people visit the place legitimately(non-mongering) and sort of regularly. Even if I didn't go there primarily for business I would be telling such a story because the girls couldn't really ask too many questions, could they? I also visit Amsterdam for business sometimes but never on my own and don't dare go near RLD or prives for fear of being seen by colleagues. Funny I don't worry about German colleagues in Frankfurt though. I wonder what I'd do.

[QUOTE=Ararat]Frankfurt is a good place for that since many people visit the place legitimately(non-mongering) and sort of regularly. Even if I didn't go there primarily for business I would be telling such a story because the girls couldn't really ask too many questions, could they? I also visit Amsterdam for business sometimes but never on my own and don't dare go near RLD or prives for fear of being seen by colleagues. Funny I don't worry about German colleagues in Frankfurt though. I wonder what I'd do.[/QUOTE]I have legitimate business in Amsterdam, but don't mind a trip to Damfpkring now and then. If I run into a business associate, well that would be one more thing we have to bond over.

RLD is a bit of a tourist attraction, so that could be explained away easily. The Dutch are pretty tolerant of personal vices.

Likewise Frankfurt I have business associates as well. If I saw one in the FKK (first, I doubt I would notice them unless I was checking out them getting a Kino BJ) it really would not be a problem. My worry is being seen entering an FKK by a business associate. I have taken to taking a cab and quickly darting in the door during regular business hours on business days. I could probably explain away my presence if observed walking down the street near an FKK by business associates, but it still would be awkward.

Likewise the Germans are pretty tolerant when it comes to vices related to sex. They can be fairly tough business wise, so I would not want to expose that to them in any event.

It is a legitimate consideration for those of us who cross business with pleasure, sometimes too closely.