Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1816686]Good advice to Mr. WB. The story in Cebu is only one of many examples of harems turning out badly for the monger involved. There is a documentary called "An American and his harem" that predates the Cebu disaster. It features an American retiree who built a compound to house his harem members in individual love shacks. Jealousy eventually exploded between his concubines, accusations were made, and the American is now enjoying an extended visa-free stay in the Philippine government's luxury accommodations for cheeky sex tourists. His concubines eventually retracted their false accusations but the Philippine courts refused to reverse his sentences. Apparently, it is good business keeping cheeky sex tourists confined indefinitely.
.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUvnz5Iv2Hw[/URL]

What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.

The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1816813]What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.

The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?[/QUOTE]Cebu isn't a disaster. It's a great place like many places in the Phils. The Aussie you mentioned likely is the Gent who has been in jail for a few years now. While it appears he is clearly innocent of any criminal charges, he is guilty in the court of public opinion likely due to many of the reasons mentioned in CM's post. This individual wasn't very low key and apparently things broke down within the group and the girls, family's, boyfriends, and eventually officials took note. I have been working in the BPO business for almost 6 years and now have a steady GF in Cebu. But I do like to hobby on occasion as there are many wonderful women in the Phils. My advice is to enjoy the fruits of the Phils but remember this isn't a Western country so just be low key, kind, and respectful as much as possible and I guarantee you will have an awesome experience here.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1816813]What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.

The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?[/QUOTE]It was Frenzy (and Bender in another forum). I never heard anything for a while the aftermath but if I remember correctly I think the charges were somewhat lowered to having an illigal firearms and breaking of immigration rules. Anyone?? Most serious charges I think was thrown away as girls changed accusation (maybe he was able to somewhat pay them off? I think he was evicted from phil soil with no welcoming sign waiting him if he returns.
I admit, since i was somewhat nube to phils back then, his postings fancied somewhat my interest. But ofcourse knowing myself so much that i hardly am able to spend more time than 2/3hrs maximum with a single girl(in real life its more like 1 to 2 hrs), What would be the real sane reason for putting up a harem then?:-) I need rotation of girls and dont like the same faces to be seen all the time. Well well..

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1815279]I girls visiting often ask them about the man's activities and sometimes the guards volunteer info unasked. .[/QUOTE]Would totally concur. Security guards will provide you with no security whatsoever. They are nosy, and have little if any integrity.

" Hi Maam your Sir seems to be a very energetic man" being the type of information they will disclose without even being asked.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1816873]It was Frenzy (and Bender in another forum). I never heard anything for a while the aftermath but if I remember correctly I think the charges were somewhat lowered to having an illigal firearms and breaking of immigration rules. ..... I think he was evicted from phil soil with no welcoming sign waiting him if he returns................[/QUOTE]My reliable source says Frenzy is still in the can (prison), eating fish head soup. Does anyone have any info on this? And it's rumoured his friend D33 , formerly of the Cebu thread, and invitations to dinner man, is in Peru prison, right now. Take care out there, LOL.

One of the perils of being popular, your inbox is full, LOL.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1816686]Mr. WB's story sounds like the setting for a drama involving sex, jealously, betrayal, unjust imprisonment, extortion, and murder just to point out a few possible themes. [/QUOTE]I truly laughed out loud over your comment and will apply greater caution, discretion, and safety measures. Except for the murder part, I've seen all the rest and just want a happy, peaceful life in the company of new lovely ladies. If the new lovely lady is a sister or cousin of a previous lovely lady, will have to be extra cautious. If any are interested, I did report some time ago on the three sisters (now only two because eldest is preggy with baby daddy in Australia) who FL together at Havana Cafe and Cafe Cubano. Sisters #2 and #3 are openminded for a price although I was just too conservative for a two-sister 3 some and did them separately (around a year apart) back before they learned about the poriners in Makati. If the Australian babydaddy of sister #1 is on this forum, you have my sincerest respect for taking responsibility for your child. I wish you both the best. If the older bespectacled Australian live-in of sister #2 shacking up with her in Makati is on this forum, be careful. She's complaining to me about you being a "babaero" (womanizer) and willing to meet me again. I've known her for years. She lacks any empathy, and I can easily imagine her "going Ilonggo" on you. I hope she doesn't have your real name and that you're only renting. And no, it's entirely irrelevant in her mind that she is meeting other guys. Several members have already observed and described this contradictory mindset.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1816686] Pretty slum dwellers and starving college students are always available on an as needed basis for threesomes at your friendly neighborhood Sogo Hotel without leaving behind copies one's ID and providing harborage for pinoy boyfriends at apartments and condos.[/QUOTE]Point very well taken. For whatever reason I've had one, count 'them one only, girl refuse to go to a Sogo on principle (the one on Quezon Ave closest to Quezon Ave MRT). She was a sizzling hot FEU student living in the Commonwealth area of QC that was perfectly satisfied to do Sogo-style activities all afternoon at a faux old English hotel a block west of the MRT station. It had a dark wood lobby with even a fake suit of armor (armour I suppose) standing in the lobby if I remember correctly. Lord Something-or-other was the name maybe circa 2010. Don't know if it still exists or not. Enough reminiscing. Ever since then I've only gone to Sogos with sure things which FEU student wasn't until we closed the door after entering the room. Oddly, even though Eurotel serves the same need in the marketplace, girls I've met seem to like it much better. YMMV and all that. Maybe it's those full-wall pictures of Europe that add class.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1816686]
Mr. WB mentioned an Ilonggo. I find this interesting as an American expat and his Filipino wife were recently brutally murdered and thrown down a well in Bacolod by Ilonggo gardeners because they felt the couple did not pay them enough in wages. Other Filipinos regard those belonging to the Ilonggo ethnic group as being liars and flatters who exhibit a superficial sweetness. Their victims are often caught unaware when the betrayal and violence comes. An Ilonggo man once said he would never marry a woman from his own ethnic group as they tend to have the staring eyes of a lizard waiting for a grain of rice to fall while hiding their true emotions. He said the Ilonggo husband is always the last to know what is happening in his house as the wife and her relatives will keep everything secret.[/QUOTE]I'm familiar with a few of the ethnic stereotypes among Filipinos, but hadn't heard that one about Ilonggos. Supposedly Ilokanos are stingy, or "business-minded". In my observation the Pinoy Big Brother song "iba iba ang Pinoy" ("Pinoys are varied" or more colorfully "Pinoys come in all sorts") applies. I'm curious now and will ask around about others.

My funniest online encounter with a jealous Pinoy BF (they use the term "husband" loosely for live-ins) was on Date-in-Asia. Pretty girl in Pampanga had the usual looking for relationship profile. I'm chatting her up, it's clear what I want without breaking any site rules. Then Pinoy BF sends me messages to the effect of "stop msgng my wife, I'm polis and will shoot you in your (posterior)". It was obvious from the exchanges that his "wife" was eagerly into meeting me, but it's hopeless to explain it rationally. I reported the threat and the account got closed.

My strangest encounter with a jealous Pinoy BF in person was walking alone from LAC where I had dropped off my wingman back to my hotel only a few blocks away. It was dark as always in corrupt unlit Ermita, but I was sober and the streets were not deserted. Older Pinoy and late-20's Pinay were hanging out a few meters apart from each other in front of a closed bank. The Pinay crosses the concrete "yard" as I'm walking by smilingat me, says "Hi, sir", etc. I had no sooner stopped to reply then old Pinoy guy walks up and grabs my arm "What are you doing with my girlfriend? They were scamming or under the influence or had psychological issues, or some combination, and I briskly crossed the street. I wasn't worried about the fragile old guy physically, but irrational behavior scares me more than any rational disputes.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1816974]Security guards will provide you with no security whatsoever. They are nosy, and have little if any integrity.
[/QUOTE]I'll never assume a Pinay believes I'm chastely devoted to her alone. If she's coming to meet me for the first time directly to my hotel room, any exclusivity is purely make-believe on both sides.

I do like to think that the nicer hotels prefer not to have guests murdered if only to prevent bad press. That's not a high standard, but there is some self-interest involved from their point of view. It's meager protection, but better than active danger.

The guards' nosiness entertains me. Their job seems unbearably boring.

[QUOTE=MrWoolyBooly;1817007]I'll never assume a Pinay believes I'm chastely devoted to her alone. If she's coming to meet me for the first time directly to my hotel room, any exclusivity is purely make-believe on both sides.

I do like to think that the nicer hotels prefer not to have guests murdered if only to prevent bad press. That's not a high standard, but there is some self-interest involved from their point of view. It's meager protection, but better than active danger.

The guards' nosiness entertains me. Their job seems unbearably boring.[/QUOTE]I have been staying in Makati Diamond Residences a lot and I noticed that security guards became more curious and curious recently. Very annoying.

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1817013]I have been staying in Makati Diamond Residences a lot and I noticed that security guards became more curious and curious recently. Very annoying.[/QUOTE]Sadly being nosy is something of a national disease. I was in a Philippines Embassy recently to get a contract signed between myself and a Filipino who was a female (no not a marriage cert!

The clerk, who had nothing to do except pass the contract to the the official who would sign the docs, took the contract, read who it was between, and started asking who the female was, what our relationship was, how well did I know the person etc. All irrelevant questions to the contract but she had to ask them as the habit of wanting to know someone elses business is deeply ingrained in many. Same with security.

The lvoe to know as much about you as they can. You should be polite and courteous but never engage in conversations with them as they will invariably want to know more about you. Its never to your advantage to disclose any information.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1816994]My reliable source says Frenzy is still in the can (prison), eating fish head soup. Does anyone have any info on this? And it's rumoured his friend D33 , formerly of the Cebu thread, and invitations to dinner man, is in Peru prison, right now. Take care out there, LOL.[/QUOTE]He is still in jail. System moves awfully slow in the Phils and the courts seem to be in no rush to release him despite the retractions from the girls. I wasn't a big fan of him (though he was a great contributor to this forum) but I believe he has done more than his time and they should just release him and never let him back in the Phils. Probably should have just done that to begin with as Skogis mentioned.

Again, I stress we all should enjoy the fruits of the Phils but just be respectful and aware of the environment you are in and of course be smart about it as this is a country full of jealous and nosy women. I know several guys on this board manage to do so just fine. Enjoy the Holidays everyone!

[QUOTE=Cjetset;1817313]He is still in jail. System moves awfully slow in the Phils and the courts seem to be in no rush to release him despite the retractions from the girls. I wasn't a big fan of him (though he was a great contributor to this forum) but I believe he has done more than his time and they should just release him and never let him back in the Phils. Probably should have just done that to begin with as Skogis mentioned.

Again, I stress we all should enjoy the fruits of the Phils but just be respectful and aware of the environment you are in and of course be smart about it as this is a country full of jealous and nosy women. I know several guys on this board manage to do so just fine. Enjoy the Holidays everyone![/QUOTE]Yes they should just deport him but that is not the way the Philippines work or Filipinos think. When a Filipino has authority over a foreigner things are never going to end well for the said be foreigner. They seem to relish in the role of punishing you if you make an error that puts you at their mercy. Filipinos love to make sycophants out of their own. They are overwhelmed with glee when a foreigner is at their mercy.

Ending up in a foreign prison is always a possibility when visiting or residing in a foreign country especially with the things that can go wrong with a hobby like mongering. When I resided there I gave out fake names to the girls and foreigners I came in contact with. I tried not to give out too much information.

I did make the mistake of inviting a few girls back to my various condos (bar girls and good girls alike). I was just lucky I never pissed any of them off enough to come after me.

One claim of $$pe is all it takes and your life is over.

P.S. Chocha Monger clean out your box bro.

Decided to put this here rather than general information or phils politics. Maybe there's a reason nobody has previously commented on this.

The content here regarding Miss Universe (Pia Alonzo Wurtzbach) is largely of the fantasy persuasion, but, let's face it, this woman's beauty epitomizes what attracts many of us to Filipinas. I would be the first to acknowledge my personal addiction to Filipina beauty. Sadly, this beautiful woman is far out of reach for all us ISG riff-raff.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCwu_DnUdZk[/URL]

The "drama" referenced in the video was a flub by the host, Steve Harvey, who misread the cue card and initially announced Miss Colombia as the winner, when she was actually first runner up. So the crown had to be unceremoniously taken from Miss Colombia's head and then given to Miss Philippines, robbing both women of their dignity.

Somebody previously referenced how the Philippines' national identity is embodied in a boxer; perhaps Pia Wurtzbach is an improvement--minimally. She certainly is much more pleasing to look at. But her response to the question about American military in the Philippines wasn't exactly "critically" engaging, although it suggested an astute reading of the situation--Las Vegas, American host, four American judges. So, following her show business career, she may qualify for Philippine politics--although not for the presidency, since she was born in Stuttgart. Or perhaps like other gifted Filipinos, she settles down in London, where her mother and sister apparently make their home. Sadly, as attractive, gracious, and charming as she appears to be, I think she and her three-year dogged pursuit for winning at beauty pageantry sort of epitomize the dominant cult of personality that exemplifies the Philippines. So a beautiful Filipina who is allegedly fluent in five languages--but graduated from a culinary institute In San Juan City NCR--has become expert at pleasing and complying with instructions and expectations. What she accomplished would seem to define the personal and nationalistic aspirations of many Filipinos. The internet is full of videos of exuberant reactions from Filipinos in their homes and businesses. Check out this reaction from a gaggle of call center agents, presumably the vanguard of college-educated young Filipinos:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOyMcJdtQeY[/URL]

Okay, enough philosophizing. Now on to the prurient content. D Cups, this is for you.

The swimsuit competition was clearly a defining moment in the pageant. One of the judges, Perez Hilton (a g-y entertainment blogger), describing why she won, commented on her "fierceness" in the swimsuit competition, "with her big old titties jiggling all over. " Really, just check out all the suso bounce from Pia by comparison to the other women. OMG!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nH4kXCupeo[/URL]

So now there's a running debate in comments left with various videos as to whether they're natural or fake. Perez Hilton suggested they were fake, but other men seem to be evenly divided; women mostly think this kind of fluid, uniform bounce only comes from natural breast tissue. Anybody care to weigh in?

A) They're fake.

B) They're natural.

C) My idea: official pageant information says she is 34 B-23-35; I think they're natural but really more like C or D cup, and the bounce is the result of deliberately trying to harness them in a B cup swimsuit top.

Finally, I wonder if this Philippine cult of personality is contagious to frequent visitors. How else to explain my own obsession with this? I mean, imagine what's involved in having viewed all these videos and gleaned all this background information.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;1821365]Sadly, this beautiful woman is far out of reach for all us ISG riff-raff.[/QUOTE]Riff-raff? Thanks a lot mate, LOL!

Anyway, she's all yours. No offence but she's just not my type of girl. I don't like her mouth and eyes in particular. For all I know she could be a ladyboy. But again, no offence, just my opinion.