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[QUOTE=Betong]Two of the worst bars in town, IMO, for attitude, service, and value for money. Go to this kind of big 'show bar' if you like for the scenery, but I bet you'll have a better time at the smaller, lower pressure places. And getting girls to go out will NOT be a problem.[/QUOTE]I had no problem at all to barfine (1350 pesos) a girl. She stayed with me for 3 days. Service was great.
[QUOTE=X Man]Although I agree with Ekspat's comments, you do see some very hot women walking around in immodest clothing -- I assume they are in the trade, but they won't even say hello as you pass them on the street. You also see them driving relatively new scooters. I've come to the conclusion that a large percentage of the hottest bar girls in town are in temporary retirement because of some financial windfall. So, maybe that accounts for some of the freelancers.
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perhaps several sugardaddys in several countries sponsoring them( of course each not knowing the others exist). Happens alot in LOS.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]JT:
you are writing correctly "it seemed..." and not "it is ..."! Although the bars you have mentioned are not my preferred places, I bet my life that lots of girls (>80%!?) would be most pleased to go out with you whenever you offer them a barfine! However, if ALL of them refuse you then you have indeed an issue! But this is more than unlikely, isn't it! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Maybe I expressed myself incorrectly, by saying "any" girl. I just asked one girl in each of the two places mentioned. Both young, so after reading some of the comment I guess they were new to the bars or even cherry. Also I didnt see anybody leaving with girls in the time I was there. So I decided these places were no good, this maybe too early? Anyway, I have now found better bars in AC.
I agree about staying in the Fields area. The only time the Checkpoint hotels are an advantage is if you are barhopping both Fields and Perimeter EVERY DAY. If 90% of your hopping is in one area or the other you're better off staying there and taking the odd trike or jeepney to the farther area.
[QUOTE=Durango1958]I suggest you stay in the Fields area, the hotels are close and girl friendly. I'm pretty sure that the Hotel Vida is not girl friendly and it is far from the action. A great place to stay is in the Checkpoint area. It is near both Fields Avenue and Perimeter, which are the two mongering areas. I usually stay at Hotel Hana. A good website is [url]http://balibago.org/[/url] which has a lot of good bar and hotel information.
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Perhaps, but it only takes one to turn her into ...into a what? The original message was in reference to "freelancer", but since these ladies now have "boyfriends", I suppose the term is inaccurate. My point was they may be called freelancers statistically since they are only one Western Union visit away from the bar.
Had a blast at Byrd Cage last night. Only two customers, so the girls were entertaining themselves with all kinds of monkey business. The two that were humping eachother were quite entertaining. Then one applied excess redlipstick, added freckles, put on some old sunglasses and there was one hell of a comedy show that ensued. Far better than any show I saw at Dollhouse. The mamasan, Divine, speaks Japanese, and probably was a real looker twenty years ago.
Two Michelle's, one a comedian, one 18, both with nice petite bodies. Michelle 18 could pass for 16, despite having a child. This would be a good place if you like them petite and also if you like threesomes. My barfine told me she'd done threesomes with two of the other girls...and she did lick pussy.
She only got to lick X Man last night. Stayed until noon.
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[QUOTE=Sharka]perhaps several sugardaddys in several countries sponsoring them( of course each not knowing the others exist). Happens alot in LOS.[/QUOTE]
I have an EDGE USB modem, you put a SIM card inside and you can connect to the internet. What SIM can you recommend to use for a data connection.
[QUOTE=X Man].
Had a blast at Byrd Cage last night.
She only got to lick X Man last night. Stayed until noon.
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What's the barfine at this place--is it at Fields or Perimeter?
[QUOTE=X Man]Perhaps, but it only takes one to turn her into ...into a what? The original message was in reference to "freelancer", but since these ladies now have "boyfriends", I suppose the term is inaccurate. My point was they may be called freelancers statistically since they are only one Western Union visit away from the bar.
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Actually the ones I met that had multiple sugardaddys (they may also be called "sponsors" by others) were all still freelancers- when their "boyfriends" are not in town. Its their way of making contact with mongers and hooking them like fishes--of course I didn't get hooked as I didn't take the bait--it was fun anyway but as long as you dont get too attached them its all ok. They mainly look for the vulnerable/ lonely older guys type so they can add them to their list of sponsors. Sucks , but guys fall for this all the time.
Next time I'm in LOS, I have to check if they are usually near a Western Union- ha ha
I think it is 1200 or 1300. It's one block off of fields...same street as Crystal Palace and old Orchid inn.
[QUOTE=Sharka]What's the barfine at this place--is it at Fields or Perimeter?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tdu1510]I have an EDGE USB modem, you put a SIM card inside and you can connect to the internet. What SIM can you recommend to use for a data connection.[/QUOTE]I can only recommend what I have. Just go into any globe telecom store (they are in every Ayala and most other malls) and get a Tatoo USB HSDPA adapter. 2,000 pesos, pretty much nationwide coverage, and only 20 pesos an hour. Best of all, no contracts and they use the regular load cards available everywhere.
Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.
There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.
As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?
The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?
If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?
I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)
Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.
Soro
[quote=loveasian*****s]i can only recommend what i have. just go into any globe telecom store (they are in every ayala and most other malls) and get a tatoo usb hsdpa adapter. 2,000 pesos, pretty much nationwide coverage, and only 20 pesos an hour. best of all, no contracts and they use the regular load cards available everywhere.[/quote]
i have both the tatoo and a subscription-based pldt weroam, and they're about the same. the speed varies as a function of where you are and how many people are online, but they're reliable and inexpensive.
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[QUOTE=Sorokonozka]Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.
There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.
As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?
The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?
If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?
I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)
Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.
Soro[/QUOTE]For everyday you just pay the barfine. If the service is good and i suppose that will be if you take the same girl a couple of days its good to pay a tip to her. Its up to you how much or buy her some clothes.
You wont have problems in finding girls. Same as in Patts
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka]Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.
There is one thing that I am still a little unsure about and that is the bar fine procedure in Angeles.
As I see it the bar fines are about 1300-1500. This includes the lady's part as well as the bar's share?
The time starts from when you pay until the next morning?
If I want her to stick around for longer or even a few days, how would that be calculated? Simply another 1300 bar fine or would I have to negotiate extra for the lady as well as paying the bar fine?
I take it an old fart of 60, a little fat, but clean and rich won't have any more problems finding a lady here than in Patts? :)
Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.
Soro[/QUOTE]The barfine includes the girls share. A tip of 0-500 p depending on performance is pretty standard (I usually average giving 300 p with the 500 p reserved for a girl who really rocks my world). The length of time the girl stays is between you and her. Some will want to leave after one pop and others will stay until they go to work the next day. I highly advise you make the length of stay negotiation part of your pre-barfine interview with it being understood that failure to fulfill terms will result in no tip.
If you want a girl to stay longer than one day, once again this is between you and the girl. If you want her to stay, expect to pay her barfine each night the girl is with you, but if she is really into you she will call into work "sick" in which case the next morning, I usually give them the amount of the barfine and they are happy.
If you can't get laid in AC, you might as well just curl up and die. That being said, you will have an occasional day when you are just not "feeling it". Every girl you call down fails your "interview" in some way-attitude, has mens, whatever and the next thing you know you are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk, have no barfine, and its 3 or 4 AM. At that point, you can either start texting previous barfines in hopes someone did not bf that night, hit Santos for a little relief, or simply call it a night and catch up on your sleep and begin the hunt again the next afternoon.
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka]Have read the forum extensively and feel that the time is right for Angeles.
Soro[/QUOTE]
The differences are as follows. I will use Pattaya as a comparison to AC.
In Pattaya you are face to face with the girl to get acquainted and do the interview and you can head out without buying her a drink or having a 2nd beer after you pay the 200-600 bht barfine (1 minute). When you get to the hotel you pay after services are rendered. Sometimes the pooyiing is not down with doing an old geezer, because I am also in my 60's. Maybe she is mensing and wants a night off. If she ain't in the shower and polishing the knob properly 15 minutes after coming in the room I send her away with no hard feelings and no money. I never offer food, drink or anything before the services are rendered and if she turns on the tv she is gone. Threats about getting an ass kickng by her catooee friends are always laughed at by me. She will go back to the bar and tell everybody you couldn't get a stiffy. You are only out $10-$15 and right back in the game.
In AC the clubs are far more in control of the p4p AND theIR girls, while the girls in Pattaya are more like the waiters or waitresses. The AC clubs compare better to a Thai Fishbowl. Almost always there is a stage where the girls are kind of dancing to music in bikinis with numbers. You pick one and they will push you to buy her a ladies drink but you can interview first before blowing the money. Tell them to wait a minute. Then if the interview goes well you might buy a ladies drink and pay the 1200-1500 bf and she comes back with you. I have had some of the best play and the worst play from the Fields ave places. You can usually tell from how enthusiastic the girl is, unlike Thailand where a starfish often behaves gung ho at the bar and a wild one looks bored to tears. The problem IS that you are already out $40-$50 before you get to your hotel between the beer, ladies drink, bf and mammasan tip that they often ask for but I always promise to give it when we get back. You can usually tell from how insistent the mammasan's demand for a tip is before hand that she already knows you have a dud. That's my 2 cents. Much easier to communicate in AC because the girls all speak English and many know the Spanish Numeric system so it is easy to cut a deal. I always like to tell the girl she what she will be getting after services are rendered. Better to tell her to get lost and start over at a different club than to cause a ruckus. The Koreans and Japs throw money around like drunk sailors there so if you see a club with a lot of N.Asians better to try another one. Don't walk around late at night in AC and vary your routine. 7 round eyed residents and tourists were murdered there last winter. As far as time is concerned, that is also up to the girl. If you can convince her she will make more pleasing you and staying she will do so. Sometimes they are in a hurry to get back to dog as many as possible and get the biggest number of commissions from BFs and Lady's drinks rather than waste time with some guy that won't cough up any cash in the end, like many of my friends from certain countries and ethnic groups(sorry). So, the girl's safest bet is to have as many return trips as possible rather than take a chance with some cheapskate with a huge dick that might bone them many times and put them out of commission (or commissions, literally). Remember that to a working girl, fucking is WORK and not necessarily fun. I have seen some ISG posts that AC is heading down the path of the p4p in Korea a few years back.