Vienna

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2458240]Maybe it will be more than 100, I was just actually just thinking out loud. Also 100 people at the same time and not 100 for the duration of the full day. I think they will be fine for sure.[/QUOTE]I wish will be fine on July, then I will drive to visit wonderful Vienna and of course Carinthia with wonderful mountains I love. Wish maybe to find back at GT Anita and Polish Sissi, do you know them? I enjoyed them in GT Bruggen Germany. WGs usually stay whole day in club, so, if maximum is limited to 100 , maximum for girls should be less than 40 , really not much for large Wellcum, maybe enough for GT size and less international tourists, Asians should not be numerous, so maybe different business at GT? But with Germany still closed for a while, many Romanians should not find a place to work, when maybe less girls at Wellcum who could try Andiamo, good for Andiamo.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2458240]Maybe it will be more than 100, I was just actually just thinking out loud. Also 100 people at the same time and not 100 for the duration of the full day. I think they will be fine for sure.[/QUOTE]100 in total would be so low that some big clubs would bafely make money. I also believe that will be too low. But I could see 150 or 200 being a cap.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2458544]100 in total would be so low that some big clubs would bafely make money. I also believe that will be too low. But I could see 150 or 200 being a cap.[/QUOTE]I think 100 is limit in Switzerland, when used to have more than 50 girls from Thursday to Saturday at Globe.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2458544]100 in total would be so low that some big clubs would bafely make money.[/QUOTE]If 100 people are allowed at one time, clubs could make money by removing the all day ticket option. Say 50 EUR for 4 hour entry or something like that. Otherwise, I could see WGs and staff getting upset if a monger pays full entry and stays the entire day, especially on a Saturday when there is a line of mongers waiting to get in.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2458544]100 in total would be so low that some big clubs would bafely make money. I also believe that will be too low. But I could see 150 or 200 being a cap.[/QUOTE]There will likely be a maximum capacity number for the clubs when they open. After that maximum is reached (for example 100), it will be "one out, one in" for the guys waiting for entry. Apparently GT is considering doing a maximum time limit (4 to 5 hours), but I don't know how they would keep track of this. Perhaps different colored wristbands dependent upon which hour you enter? Guess we'll see what happens in July. Maybe they won't even bother with a time limit.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2458796]There will likely be a maximum capacity number for the clubs when they open. After that maximum is reached (for example 100), it will be "one out, one in" for the guys waiting for entry. Apparently GT is considering doing a maximum time limit (4 to 5 hours), but I don't know how they would keep track of this. Perhaps different colored wristbands dependent upon which hour you enter? Guess we'll see what happens in July. Maybe they won't even bother with a time limit.[/QUOTE]It won't be hard to install software solutions that counts clients upon arrival and "departure" and displays and therefore deduct the number of clients who can still enter. But things can still change until beginning of July and will very likely change in the course of July and all rules need to be adapted along the way. They'll figure it out.

[quote]Otherwise, I could see WGs and staff getting upset if a monger pays full entry and stays the entire day, especially on a Saturday when there is a line of mongers waiting to get in.[/quote]

I don't see a line of people waiting for anything. Especially not as long as all clubs must close at 01:00. To be fair and to be realistic, our economy is not healthy at all at the moment and hardly any business is running at full capacity. Also the poker casino next to GT is closed for the time being (not Corona induced) and GT can't expect any clients dropping in from their neighbour.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2458907]I don't see a line of people waiting for anything. Especially not as long as all clubs must close at 01:00. To be fair and to be realistic, our economy is not healthy at all at the moment and hardly any business is running at full capacity. Also the poker casino next to GT is closed for the time being (not Corona induced) and GT can't expect any clients dropping in from their neighbour.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your insight as a local. A 01:00 close time will result in lower attendance?

Reading the Zurich thread, I believe some said Club Swiss experienced unusually high demand since reopening, but they speculate that this was because they have a monopoly advantage at the moment, and that it will probably level out after more clubs reopen. ISGers seem divided on their predictions. One side predicts that there will be a flood of visitors, because people were saving money while stuck at home watching porn during lockdown. Other side predicts that there will be much less visitors because mongers may be reluctant to visit due to health, financial, or privacy / contact tracing concerns.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2458796]There will likely be a maximum capacity number for the clubs when they open. After that maximum is reached (for example 100), it will be "one out, one in" for the guys waiting for entry. Apparently GT is considering doing a maximum time limit (4 to 5 hours), but I don't know how they would keep track of this. Perhaps different colored wristbands dependent upon which hour you enter? Guess we'll see what happens in July. Maybe they won't even bother with a time limit.[/QUOTE]Driving 1200 kms, when breakfast is most important for sporty like me, I would not like to pay 90 to stay only 4 or 5 hours, when I don't like to rush like a rabbit. When Austrians are not enough for business, when Germans should not move much from their garden, when Asians should be rare, clubs would better welcome foreigners. I usually choose the club for whole day, not for a fast shot.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2458762]If 100 people are allowed at one time, clubs could make money by removing the all day ticket option. Say 50 EUR for 4 hour entry or something like that. Otherwise, I could see WGs and staff getting upset if a monger pays full entry and stays the entire day, especially on a Saturday when there is a line of mongers waiting to get in.[/QUOTE]Exactly! And this is what I fear would happen as well if such a 100 people cap is introduced. 4 or 5 hours would essentially cripple the interest of the fly in mongers, who go under cover as 'tourists'. And if taking that article seriously, that is 70% of GT Viennas market. Now, how large of a percentage of that is fly in mongers, and how large of a percentage is business men who just happen to drop by for a few hours before flying out of Austria is unknown. Especially when so many fly in mongers lie and claim they are mainly there for business. LOL!

But the point is that even just implying that such a meassure can be enforced, is a pr nightmare causing a certain downward spiral.

Thought set of events:

1. Possible fly in monger reads about a possible 100 people cap in GT Vienna.

2. Possible fly in monger gets scared of the girls and staff time rushing them not only while in the room, but also when outside of the room. Translation: a total nightmare, and the core of one of the most frowned upon topics related to p6.

3. Possible fly in monger does not book his flight.

4. Possible fly in mongers used to be 50% of GT Vienna's crowd. Now due to this fear of meassures, 40% cansle their booking, or don't book at all. (20% were actual business travellers, but due to corona and new business trends, don't travel to Vienna anyway).

5. Instead of GT being at 80% of normal capacity, the club will only be at 40%. Thus there will be no need for the cap restrictions at all.

6. The very idea of mentioning it, causes a 50% income drop for GT Vienna.

So, lets see what happens. But this is a nightmare scenario for the club.

Note: This calculation does not take into account foreign nations travel restrictions into Austria. So given that, the real numbers are of course a bit lower. But how much is hard to tell without real data on which countries GT Viennas market hails from.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2459045]Exactly! And this is what I fear would happen as well if such a 100 people cap is introduced. 4 or 5 hours would essentially cripple the interest of the fly in mongers, who go under cover as 'tourists'. And if taking that article seriously, that is 70% of GT Viennas market. Now, how large of a percentage of that is fly in mongers, and how large of a percentage is business men who just happen to drop by for a few hours before flying out of Austria is unknown. Especially when so many fly in mongers lie and claim they are mainly there for business. LOL!

But the point is that even just implying that such a meassure can be enforced, is a pr nightmare causing a certain downward spiral.

Thought set of events:

1. Possible fly in monger reads about a possible 100 people cap in GT Vienna.

2. Possible fly in monger gets scared of the girls and staff time rushing them not only while in the room, but also when outside of the room. Translation: a total nightmare, and the core of one of the most frowned upon topics related to p6.

3. Possible fly in monger does not book his flight.

4. Possible fly in mongers used to be 50% of GT Vienna's crowd. Now due to this fear of meassures, 40% cansle their booking, or don't book at all. (20% were actual business travellers, but due to corona and new business trends, don't travel to Vienna anyway).

5. Instead of GT being at 80% of normal capacity, the club will only be at 40%. Thus there will be no need for the cap restrictions at all.

6. The very idea of mentioning it, causes a 50% income drop for GT Vienna.

So, lets see what happens. But this is a nightmare scenario for the club.

Note: This calculation does not take into account foreign nations travel restrictions into Austria. So given that, the real numbers are of course a bit lower. But how much is hard to tell without real data on which countries GT Viennas market hails from.[/QUOTE]The possible Fly In Mongerer has multiple other options apart from GT and therefore, if he is a real mongerer, will not focus just on GT. The 4-5 hour rule is also not likely to be put in place.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2459155]The possible Fly In Mongerer has multiple other options apart from GT and therefore, if he is a real mongerer, will not focus just on GT. The 4-5 hour rule is also not likely to be put in place.[/QUOTE]Suuuure. Like what? Babylon? LOL.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2459155]The possible Fly In Mongerer has multiple other options apart from GT and therefore, if he is a real mongerer, will not focus just on GT. The 4-5 hour rule is also not likely to be put in place.[/QUOTE]Yes, any punter who wants to spend an entire day Mongering could easily club hop from one place to another, however it would suck to be paying multiple entrance fees per day.

My favorite GT girl is the one who mentioned to me a few days ago that management was considering time limits. She's been right about things in the past (including advanced warning of the last price increase). But management "thinking about" a change is much different from management "deciding to implement" a change. I agree with Massimo and others that after considering the potential negative repercussions of 4/5 hour time limits, that they will not put this rule in place.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2459246]Yes, any punter who wants to spend an entire day Mongering could easily club hop from one place to another, however it would suck to be paying multiple entrance fees per day.

My favorite GT girl is the one who mentioned to me a few days ago that management was considering time limits. She's been right about things in the past (including advanced warning of the last price increase). But management "thinking about" a change is much different from management "deciding to implement" a change. I agree with Massimo and others that after considering the potential negative repercussions of 4/5 hour time limits, that they will not put this rule in place.[/QUOTE]If desk confirm me limited time, I will never pay entry 90. In 4 hours, I have hardly time to shower, take breakfast, visit to find strategic place and judge looks level.

I really hope there are not time limits. I come to Vienna every year from Canada and spend anywhere from a week to 10 days here. When I go to GT and FP, I like to spend anywhere from 8 to 10 hours. I see a few different girls, relax, have some drinks, and enjoy myself. I would not be happy with a 4 hour time limit especially coming all that way. These places are to be enjoyed, not in and out places.

I am supposed to come to Vienna and other countries on a month long holiday in August. I have 1 week left to cancel my entire trip for a full refund. I am really unsure what to do. There is so much confusing information on quarantines, restrictions, etc. Are nightclubs, bars, restaurants open? Are people actually out and about? I am struggling with my decision of whether to cancel this year and go next summer instead. I have been looking forward to this trip since November.

Any advice or opinions on what I should do?

Seems as if the rules are here and they are pretty vague and therefore very mild. FYI, this is just from a newspaper article but it's a good source so let me summarise: The main call to action is a call for hygiene. Masks can be worn, they don't have to. Clients may leave their contact data so that in case of an infection the infection chain can be analysed, that is what they call contact tracing, but clients don't have to. Ladies may take a covid test every 6 weeks at their health check, but they don't have to. Kissing is not recommended but if you want, you can. No need to keep a distance in the room (duuhh). I see no service restrictions regarding condoms at all so far. A more precise summary will follow as we see the official paper that the newspaper is basing their article on.