Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Wrong again Mick. I don’t compare women fucking around with criminal acts just used it as an analogy. I think all people men, women who fuck around with reckless abandon including myself are also clinically sick especially those men who chase prostitutes. :D[/QUOTE]I think DW, that you're still a little wrapped up in what society and religion in the US define as "right" and "wrong" or perhaps moral and immoral would be better terms. If, however, you subscribe to the point of view that sex is not only thoroughly enjoyable, but absolutely normal, and that you're only doing what other men (maybe women too) wish they could be doing, you get over the perception of yourself as clinically ill extremely quickly. The fact is that, for most species, polyandry is normal, and monogamy for humans is essentially an invention of human society--primarily religion--developed in an effort to control sexuality and behavior. My rule is much simpler and less agonizing--if it feels good, and if I'm not hurting anyone by indulging in sex, and the young woman is a legal adult and consenting, then it's fine.

Just my take of course.

GE

We all know the most expensive sex is with the wife.

That is why we all look for a cheap hooker.

We check ISG to find them.

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Moved to the proper board.....

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=822800#post822800[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm too lazy to keep jumping threads.
I will agree that I am a sex addict and I only partially understand why.
I think only getting it once a month when married had something to do with it.

How did we get to this discussion of morality of prostitution?

The original arguement started when some totally uninformed dickhead made the statement that all Thai girls are wh*ores.

Nothing against the world's second oldest profession and some of the golden hearted providers of comfort to the lonely or sex deprived. Thank God for them!

A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?

I say yes if she is in to you. The few I'm working now I have arrangements based on how many pops per day, how much photography I'm allowed, etc. This seems to keep them anxious to please in order for more thb. Sorry I haven't been posting much as the girls on TLL have been keeping me busy. Happy hour, Sheraton Grand, PM me. Have an extra phone number or 2. See for your self. Chok dee

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?[/QUOTE]

my thought is they never forget , if you like this girl , pay the old price ,

unless you tell her you are broke this trip and cannot afford her , even though you would love to take her,

make it her decision , then she does not lose face and you are the good guy for taking her,

I always like to have a couple "regulars" to call if the bars are closed or I am hiding out from a stalker !

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?[/QUOTE]

On my limited foray away from the TGF during the airport shut down recently I found I got a lot more mileage and GFE out of paying the same amount as before. I could have gone lower easily and they would have been happy about it but the girls I saw who I saw before were just thankful to have me around during that time. Many would have been happy just to have a good meal IMHO but as I said these are girls I knew before and have their contact numbers and such.

This leads me to believe that when we go back in a few weeks the regulars we normally see will be very happy to see us come back. :D

The prices I heard quoted from girls I did not know at Cowboy and on some bars on Soi 33 were grossly inflated however. Mick your recent friend quoted a number so high to a guy I almost spit coke out my nose. But since I was with the TGF at those times I was in no position to even jokingly attempt to bargain as I surely was not going to be taking one of them home with us.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]A question for guys currently in BKK, in relation to the prices coming down a bit.

If you go with one of your regular girls that you have seen several or many times before, do you find that the girl is currently happy to accept a lower payment tahn previously, given that everyone is suffering under the economic crises, or does it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] girls off if suddenly start wanting to pay less than before?[/QUOTE]

The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
Mick your recent friend quoted a number so high to a guy I almost spit coke out my nose. But since I was with the TGF at those times I was in no position to even jokingly attempt to bargain as I surely was not going to be taking one of them home with us.[/QUOTE]
Yes I am sure the starting price is going to be high but she told me she was not really an "expensive girl". But she will try it on, assuming I have guessed correctly who you refer to.

I am described as overly generous as I usually pay for LT about double the ST fee provided I get double the sex, and adjust lower if don't get another round in the morning (for some reason like girl has to go in a hurry happens occasionally). Others tell me double is far too much for LT, but I believe its reasonably fair.

I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.
I also vary my payment by the class of girl, level of competition, and how good she is. I don't believe in one standard fee for all.

Obviously I would expect very good discount though for a multi-day booking. As a girl can then be relaxed as she has a sure money supply for several days plus supplied meals, miscellaneous, etc.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is exactly how I approach P4P also. Once you have set it very clear that you can pay more for "Better" service, the girl will really make every effort EVERYTIME, these girls are very smart and know which side of their bread is buttered.

Also, playing guessing games with a thai girl is pointless, if you give her 1,000 one day and 500 the other day because she did not perform as well, thinking she will understand the message, well, she might not always.
I find it is good to make it clear so she understands, then, it is easier for everyone.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]The regular girls I saw knew that I paid for performance. The greater my satisfaction the more "taxi" money they received. There never was any negotiation.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Girls that know me, never negotiate, and even first time girls rarely discuss the the price.
Many are not hardened enough to overcome shyness re price discussions. Must be that I am attracted to shyer (spelling?) type of girls at times.
Even Suzi Wong bar girls would go with me without discussing price. I obviously have a good reputation in this bar for fun and generosity and other things.

Ocassionally one will ask how much I want to pay for long time, for example. In that case I offer my low-end amount and she is usually satisfied and decides that amount is O.K. for X hours in her own mind. When she performs superbly, she gets an extra bonus. If she is crap then she would get politely ejected with the minimum.
Actually I rarely go LT with a new girl for me, unless I an really sure she is hot and the chemistry will work.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Yes I am sure the starting price is going to be high but she told me she was not really an "expensive girl". But she will try it on, assuming I have guessed correctly who you refer to......I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.....Obviously I would expect very good discount though for a multi-day booking. As a girl can then be relaxed as she has a sure money supply for several days plus supplied meals, miscellaneous, etc.[/QUOTE]

Multi Day or Multi Repeat can get you a very good rate now IMHO (unless you're my TGF :D ) And yes I think you are guessing who that other girl is correctly.

Personally I'm not sure about dropping the long term rate down but what do you consider long term?? I'd probably pay the same amount but expect 20 hours (if want her that long) and unlimited shots with a lot more options then before and no "bonus" money for other items that maybe you'd consider paying before.

If take a girl for 8 hours ( 10 pm to 6 am) then sure drop it down if she's not up for a full 8 hours of sexercise... But for me, I'm an early bird, used to grab them early in the evening and keep them around into the next afternoon.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I was thinking of dropping my ST offer by 500 and dropping LT by 1K, in view of difficult times and Aussie dollar now worth a lot less Baht than before.[/QUOTE]

That's possible. If you talk with the girl and you like her, just tell her what you are ready to pay and see what she says. Some girls might even agree to your (lower than their usual) price because they feel you will treat them well.

To some girls, being treated nicely is far more important than an extra quick 500. I know a girl at a SC Bar who told me that one Arab Customer of hers pays very well but then is very rough in the bedroom, she only goes with him because of the money. She also said that she quite often enjoy the company of some guys because they are funny, nice and gentle with her. She also did admit that more than once she hoped that some of these farangs would take her again, and not because of the money, but because being with them felt like she was not really a piece of meat.

You can find this girl in SHARK ;)

I just spent a fun week in Bangkok (and have posted part of this on Giotto's thread), Chronologically it reads backward (huh?)

[b][i]Yesterday, I thought I saw a tumbleweed on the motorway on the way to the airport...[/i][/b]

Once at Suvarnabhumi I was informed that my 1:50 pm Air Asia flight to Krabi was canceled, (no e-mail or SMS). No information as to why, of course, but I suspect it was for lack of passengers. I then had to wait five hours for the next flight (which was about 3/4ths full). While killing time, I noticed on the schedule board that a number of domestic flights had been canceled. Somehow, by the grace of the travel gods I was back on Koh Lanta by 9 pm. [i]Amazing Thailand![/i]

Suvarnabhumi, the world's 18th busiest airport, was eerily quiet for December 10. In fact, I saw many more workers than travelers. No lines (ques for you non-yanks) even at the AA check-in counters. I saw no indication of the PAD takeover except for the dozen or so policemen sitting (sleeping?) under a tent at a checkpoint about 2km from the terminal. I wonder why they even bother to carry guns? I did hear, though, (from reliable unnamed sources close to the queen), that the PAD looted all the whiskey and smokes from the King Power shops.

[b][i]Thailand is looking a lot more like drug-war addled Mexico as each day passes...[/i][/b]

At the big motorway turn leading to the terminal I noticed that one of the biggest highway billboards is now blank, and the big flat screen TV ads are fading quickly. Lots of "For Rent" signs on buildings everywhere along the motorway. Many shops are closing in the busy Silom District, too.

[b][i]Silom Road highs and lows...[/i][/b]

Two nights ago at about 9 pm, I joined some friends for a drink at the trendy spendy Vbar at the big Sofitel Hotel on Silom Rd. . In the hotel lobby, there was no one other than employees when we walked in, and upstairs, just a few folks in the bar. Saw some great views of Bangkok from 37-floors above the quiet madness.

Later on, we went to the Cleo Beer Bar on Patpong Soi 2 (right outside the Star of Light). The ancient beer bar turned out to be way more fun than the Sofitel, (and the drinks were a lot cheaper). They've got a few cute & friendly, young girls there, (check out Khun Mai), beers at only 70-80 baht, and the bar fine (Cheap Charlie alert!) for [i]Isaan's finest[/i] is only 400 baht. Conveniently, if you are impatient, bored and horny, SOL is right next door.

Saturday afternoon, I stopped by my favorite Silom Road massage shop, "Happy Massage," next to the deserted Narai Hotel. There were 10 girls working and so far that day there had been no customers. Before ascending to the 4th floor for my regular FS massage, (btw, [i]I love Thailand[/i]), I gave Khun Net, (my favorite Happy lady), 500 baht to buy the shop girls dinner. That way, to my relief, all the lovely ladies with the sad, dark eyes were now theoretically happy and [i]im lao[/i] (full), at least until the next meal (and they [i]love[/i] me)! There are some cute young lassies waiting for customers there...check it out!

[b][i]Fine dining...[/i][/b]

One evening after I got a buzz-cut on Soi 5, we enjoyed a meal at the old lounge lizard's paradise, [i]The Check-Inn.[/i] If you haven't been there, it's tucked back from the sidewalk on Sukhumvit btwn. Sois 5 & 7. Good steak, pretty Filipinas singing, and some MILF-type [i]hostesses[/i] waiting for interested parties to take them away. My gig liked the [i]tum yum kung[/i] and the Baileys on the rocks for dessert.

Another good meal was had at the non-descript [i]Lek Seafood[/i] right next to the Chong Nonsi BTS Station. Squid, clams, fried fish -- it was all good [i]& cheap[/i] (about 750 baht for 3 people with beers and tip)!

[b][i]Wanna buy a watch?[/i][/b]

Only bad part of the trip was learning that my favorite old Omega Seamaster (Sean Connery 007 model) is [i]toast[/i] after blowing out the stem while diving at 25 meters below the Andaman Sea off of Palau Weh last month. The Omega shop wanted 11,000 baht to fix it (yikes -- three months and parts from Switzerland!). Maybe I can sell it for parts on eBay? Anyone know where to buy a watch in Bangkok?

I'll be back through the [i]City of Angels[/i] in a week or so and I'm already looking forward to more fun and games. In the meantime, I need to walk a lot on the beach to work off the kilo I gained last week.

But, what will January bring? Lottery tickets? More Elections? Foreigner Kidnappings? Food Riots? [i]Lower prices???[/i]