Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943574]A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else?[/QUOTE]They are just making small talk. Tell them yes and she likes ladies too.

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943574]Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.[/QUOTE]I just copy and paste "Hello,. What you doing" to all of them that I am interested in. Whoever answers then I work from there. Some do not answer for days, weeks or even months after.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2943563]More than 50% of the ladies who come to my condo want to be paid via bank transfer rather than cash.[/QUOTE]Fuck that! I only pay my prostitutes fiat currency in THB. My personal philosophy is to pay cash until I cannot. Like at the move theater I had to buy a card in order to purchase tickets. So, I did. But I least I got a discount. Also, many food courts let you pay cash at the main station where they put a credit on a card that lets you make purchases in the food court. I had to mail a package and they would only allow bank transfer. I paid it. But I also thought it was fucked up. Legal Tender means it is legal to use for all business transactions in the mother fucking country. [B]Get the fuck![/B].

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943574]I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.

Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street..[/QUOTE]I think you did well for your first visit I believe. Otherwise you wouldn't be so alarmed about the lack of access to all clubs.

First of all, I would not give a damn about it since the visit time for us is usually just a few days and Pattaya has thousands and thousands of girls to choose from. It's not like you are losing out on everything. You did not get access to the best location on the beach, but you can still be happy with the sea in front of you anyways. Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not.

Secondly, clubs are there to make money. They are not here to entertain everyone who comes to Pattaya. They are doing what is right for their business model. And they are 100% right in doing so. If you run a business you will want the best spending and well behaved customers. And they do use their best judgement in filtering out certain races which is not fair to some of us but if you see around you deep down know they have to do it.

I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943646]Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?[/QUOTE]Just pay a drink to the girl you like, if she is responding well keep paying a few drinks (one after one, no racks and no tequilas). During that time, talk with her and be touchy, try to feel her everywhere. If things are going good, take her upstairs (after negociating a price). If not, move to another bar or come back to the soi later if you don't see anyone.

The girls are seeing all kind of guys walking the soi up and down frequently, they don't necessarily know who is here to have a good time and who is not. They will know when they will see you having a good time with a girl, and spending on drinks. Your next visit some of the other girls would have noticed you, and slowly more and more girls will want to jump on you, but it takes time. One or two days might not be enough to get the same treatment that the guys you've seen.

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943574]I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.

Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street.

I thought I should share my retrospective. Be warned, it might feel a bit like a rant about the Indian experience in Pattaya.

1. I was denied entry at Pin-Up and XS Gogo Bars. At both places, the guards said "members only, 5000 THB fee". Granted I am very brown and obese, I think I was dressed fine. I visited the Walking Street alone, so I did not seem like one of those creepy Indian groups either. Before entering a bar, I confirm LD and BF prices. Maybe that made them think I am a stereotypical Cheap Charlie from India. I was willing to spend good money but not just for the privilege to enter the damned bar. I tried to communicate the same by offering to buy drinks for security guards at both the bars. At XS, I even opened my wallet to show them the cash I have on me. That only prompted them to reduce the "membership fee" to 3000 THB "just for me". I left after hearing that. Maybe a little more convincing would have worked? Whatever. It was a little frustrating to be expected to just throw a lot of money away to prove I can spend as much as Koreans and Americans. Why not have a cover charge system instead? More than happy to guarantee spending 5 k THB on LDs and BFs but I would still be a little worried about bill padding or excessive LD requests from staff when paying a big amount upfront. Any thoughts on this from fellow Indians / non-Indians?

2. Onto the other two Gogo bars I did BF from. I will not name them for privacy; apparently Indians very rarely visit Gogo bars. The first bar asked for 500 THB "membership fee". That was much more reasonable than the 5000 THB demand from other bars. I handed the guard the cash. He said something along the lines of, "just buy me a drink", so I did not end up paying the 500 THB fee after all. Just paid for my drink and a guard's drink to enter. At the second bar, I was not stopped at entrance at all. I offered the guard a drink anyway. He was very happy. I offered a drink each to two waitresses. They paid special attention to my requests.

3. As expected Soi 6 is much more value for money. Of course here as well, the experience is not as good as it is for Americans and Koreans. Those dudes (regardless of age, weight, etc.) were getting a lot more attention from the pretty ladies. Two ladies refused my offer to buy them drinks. It was a little upsetting in the moment but I did not brood over it. In retrospect, I am very happy these ladies had the agency to refuse my advances if they did not feel like being with me. Soon enough, I found a pretty lady who agreed to get a drink with me. Lots of kissing and groping inside the bar. We went upstairs for ST. It was fun. I regret not LTing her. I spent 2500 and 3000 baht all in (my drink, LD, BF and lady's fee) for the two times. Much better value for money than Walking Street. Sure, Gogo bars will have higher concentration of "more desirable" ladies but Soi 6 has so many ladies, you will very likely find someone you like and for much cheaper.

4. No luck on TF with subscription. First question I ask is if the lady freelances. Most did not respond. Some that did never messaged again.

I had a few questions as well (I have RTFF):

1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street. This happened even though I told her during our first interaction that I am butterfly. Could I have prevented her being (fake?) upset? Not sure what her expectation was.

2. A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else? I remember reading somewhere that Pattaya's entertainment industry is built around GFE but in this forum, I see lots of people here not sticking around with one lady. Am I missing something?

3. Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.

Please reply / message me if you spot any behaviour I can improve for a better experience for myself or the ladies.[/QUOTE]Pretty brutal if you're not getting ladies hitting you up on TF. I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2943646]Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?[/QUOTE]Not much. These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? Just an hour of time from a person for their service and they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons. We can increase our odds but there are certain girls who even refuse to go with western white guys apparently if you read some of their reports here. There is already a hue and cry about it in Philippines forum and to a smaller extent in Thai forums. Girls prefer Asians like Koreans and Japs more, then come westerners, then Middle East and finally Desis.

The places that offer lineups such as soapies are more suitable for a sure shot selection. AFAIK, yet to read a report where a Soapie lady has turned down a client. Probably a 99% chance of nothing going wrong there. However the ladies are usually older, padded with makeup and the mechanical nature of sex ruins it.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2943798]... Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not...[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I am happy with my experience. I wanted to post about the not-so-positive experiences anyway, so that other first-timers from India can calibrate expectations accordingly.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2943798]I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.[/QUOTE]Okay.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2943820]... These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? ... they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons ...[/QUOTE]Of course. I did not mean otherwise.

Thanks for your response, LoneWolff.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2943798]I wouldn't waste my time on TF.[/QUOTE]It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited. Ok, so that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But I am going offer mine, except mine is supported by documentation.

[U]Example I[/U]

First week I was here I met three girls off of Thai Friendly and reported about it. All great experiences! 1000 - 1500 THB. Was told they were ugly just because of the price that I paid. In fact, there were those telling me I was lying on my dick. Now look at them. Choking on their mother fucking foot cause they didn't wash it before putting it in their mouth! If it doesn't taste so good, then make sure you know what you are talking about before you start beating on your keyboard.

[U]Example II[/U]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2940342]Why not just use Thai Friendly? I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS. I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht. The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd. But to each his own I suppose.

Gabacho Out.[/QUOTE]It is Gabacho's first visit to Pattaya, Thailand. And he has been running up into Thai girls since wheels down.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2943798]I wouldn't waste my time on TF.[/QUOTE]Tell me again my brother why you have this opinion? On what basis are you provide this opinion to us?

[QUOTE=Allover;2941900]He has to comment on every post[/QUOTE]I comment on what I know. Have you ever seen a post from me about a soapie massage place? No you have not. Why? Because I have not been to one. If others followed that simple rule then we would not have to wade through so many bullshit posts like ones that [B]Mogwai[/B] likes to throw up.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2943388]I did post quite a lot in the pastBut in the end it became boring and too time consuming to write reviews.[/QUOTE]This mother fucker wrote a post to say he does not post anymore. [B]WTF?![/B].

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2943817]... I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.[/QUOTE]For better privacy, I have removed myself from TF search. Only the ladies I send a message to can see my profile.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2943893]It is important to me for a girl to refuse me. That way I would have been saved from a bad experience of poor service from a girl who really does not want to be with me. In China I was refused occasionally but I was also with girls who clearly did not want to be with me, one even cried during the deed. I prefer to be refused which gives me an opportunity to be with a girl who will give good service.[/QUOTE]It's easy for ladies to say "I have period, cannot go to the room. Thanks for the 40 drinks. "

[QUOTE=TonyEm;2943572]How long do they stay usually? Cool reports.[/QUOTE]Anywhere from 45 min to about 90 mins. I've just been doing ST not LT.

[QUOTE=Allover;2944315]Shots fired, no. The sub has been sunk.[/QUOTE]Sub, as in ship? I always thought it was Subway, as in sandwich.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2944405]Sub, as in ship? I always thought it was Subway, as in sandwich.[/QUOTE]I thought it was about a boat, a reference to keeping a firm grasp on the seamen.

Just a different experience? Today I read interesting, opinions, debates, insults but my motto is really to each his own, that includes, age, looks, price, and locations.

A few days late, last Friday I was set to take a family friend out but he ended up cancelling he is the type of guy old stubborn mule who thinks when in Thailand do as the Thais do! I warned him do not eat those what I label " Blood Clams " from market or anywhere. He did a bit over a dozen got a call a few hours later please take me to the hospital my advice, boil some hot water and shit it out.

So with a free night out plans already kind of made I set out on my own. Started out at Soi Buahkao Prime Burger, treated myself to a double and large curly fries, topped it off with a apple pie and vanilla Ice cream I was jacked walked out just across was Tree Town crossed stood in front of the famously mentioned " Bus Bar " didn't see a brother so I did my usual walk around Tree town starting left to right. Usually I see a few that catches my attention maybe it was too early but nothing on the other end not as popular many that were open just a month ago were not closed particularly the path leading to the old Made in Thailand. One notable is " Escape AKA Devil Den " even before the name DD was added during or right after Covid tons of baht was thrown into this place it was supposed to be a hybrid type of place GC then a GoGo at night. Same with the now huge vacant building set in the middle of Tree Town so called " Beach Club " looked like a great idea but another failed. One club girls sitting outside just before the corner bar Candy once name Andy had a half dozen young girls outside playing with their phone. Can't remember the name gaining in age memory and eyesight not what it suppose to be.

Plan was to hit WS. Without friend I continued the journey since I had indicated to a lady friend who my friend met a while back wanted to try to hook up with. She is now older 48, still needs to work but looks 38, her feet damaged don't want to dance so she works outside waving in customers. I've know this lady for over 10 years from another Gogo, who I once had as a gik, she was friends of that gik, help me out a number of times making excuses since she had a BF, through that relationship we got close so close I met her BF then even had dinner with them a number of times been to their house and met her mother. Lets say she is a veteran started very young like most we always kept in touch from time to time we flirt with each other come BF me or she hasn't had any sex stuff, I go along like a Thai man with my sweet mouth. When I had that gik at this Gogo I had a number of girls I like she was one of them but later it kind of became like a brother sister thing funny cause she still would flirt it was tough for me to screw something one refer to me as her brother.

Last discussion she was waving customers outside Faranhelt, said she plans to move a few doors down to the new Shark Club, referring to monopoly, this group the banner if still there will list the number of GoGo they run, a few I remember Skyfall, Bliss, Palace, Faranhelt, ? As noted the group that runs Pin Up, XS, has not taken over the space with the closing of IIvy, naming it Chicks?

Soon I gather we will be talking about WS like we are talking about Soi 6, these owners group have a plan the results are obvious to me at least.

When I walked by didn't see her outside Faranhelt, try to Line her no reply so decided where so I go to kill sometime. Wanted to go XS but too many girls now working there who I know from Bacarra so decided to walk and visit Pin Up again. A few weeks ago some kind of party very crowded didn't get a good seat but this night not busy go placed right between the two stages. Usually I order a draft but I needed something stronger to burn the beef I ate off so Sangsom on the rocks. I notice this time without the draft every waitress walking by didn't check my bin every few minutes having a good seat able to see better I was able to see all three groups. Looks to each his own but for a long time last time I saw a girl that fit my bill was years ago before Covid in Bangkok? What is that place around the corner from Soi Cowboy other end from Asoke.

She wore White seem to be a younger group that remove their tops. Her number was 401, best looking girl I've seen in a long long time white skin 21-25 tops no tattoos perfect type of tits not too big or small they stand up what I term like a chocolate kiss before you unwrap the foil. Within seconds of me spotting her not like I was going to buy her drinks or BF, waitress got her attention she turn and smile indicating to me it was a former customer I realize after it was a couple. With my taste I never know what it is going to be then I spot another shorter, darker, older late 20's big eyes which I like real quiet and shy demeanor #135, if I was to spend money I would surely do her before 401. After two rounds time to hit the road after walking out as I walked pass One night Jack the club next door I run into former Gik now older waving in customers beg me to come in but I made an excuse things aren't the same plus I got a curfew LOL. As I started leave I turn boy was I getting the stink eye that can kill.

Back down to Faranhelt, as to old gik so call good friend then but nothing so I walk past into Soi 15, to get to my bike other end 2nd road just as I near motorbike standing at corner catching Songthaw was her said she isn't working until new club is opened. Small talk we I ended up taking her down 3rd Road to Thai place to eat near her apartment these Thai girls love that " Moo got Ta " they can eat I was surprised she ask to order a small bottle of Hong Tong with bucket of Ice. Chic Chat catching up she seems happy really flirting she does look good for her age take real good care of her body to be honest she is the last on the list of girls from this gogo I haven't fuck.

The subject did come up although she works really don't want to go with your friend the only one she plans to sleep with is me! Now I'm sitting there as old as my ass is I'm thinking I got no game like Mr. E, I couldn't get free pussy on my best day even when I was young. I don't know in H. S. How many girls I missed out on because I couldn't even ask I would shit in my pants, I certainly not the Sub or any of you but yet here I was thinking can I get it up for someone who keeps referring me to her brother " love you brother " but continues to flirt every chance and I being the dog flirts back I joke I don't want to buy the car I just want to test drive you know my situation. But as we know if there are those who don't a Thai girl women don't give a shit if you are married or taken.

She just smiles, for me the apex of excitement these days is being invited to her own personal room which was just up the Soi from where we were eating. She indicated problem her daugther a Tom who I have met 25, is staying with her now although working so I pull the trigger took a big chance that she wasn't expecting me to buy the car we headed up the Soi behind Big see, to my favorite ST, Viva, it was a bit uncomfortable at first until we got into the shower. Regardless, one thing about these older ones who don't get the attention in clubs as much any longer no Boyfriend was she giving me the buy the car sell. When she says she doesn't get BF nor had any in a while " yea right " but I've not seen a Beaver in a while.

Now I cross my finger and hope the problems don't start! This is clearly an experience where the LBM was the one in charge!

Arrive in Bangkok 5 am and had a taxi waiting to take me to Pattaya. Once, I arrived in Pattaya at 7 am I was staying at the Grand Ave condo. This is my first visit to Thailand. I am a South American and Middle East monger I been playing those areas since 2005. Okay let's get into day 1 woke at 12 noon and I went to exchange money at TT while walking I walk past a massage and I decided to get a 300 baht oil massage (this didn't go well) I didn't ask the required question before getting the massage I ended up paying 1300 baht to get jerked off topless (I been reading the Thailand section a lot). Next I head to village market and got some groceries and liquor. Then at about 5:30 I went out again I wanted to visit Heaven above and Maggie mays. It's was too early for heaven above so I went to Maggie mays and had a few drinks and brought a girl 1 lady drinks (the girl jerked me at the bar) I asked how much to go up stairs and she says 1500 for the girl and 400 baht for room. I want to see as much as I could in the first night so I pressed on to 711 and saw a nice Thai girl coming out. I asked where I could purchase a vape so gave me the directions and as I am about walk pass the place to buy the vape she stop on a motto and points the place again. I ask in Thai "where you go" and then I say in Thai " we go together " so I hop on the motto and she says she work at a bar so off we go (I will circle back with the name of the bar on day 2) we get to her bar on Soi Honey and I order a drink for me and a lady for her she sits with me and 1 by 1 the other other girls in the bar come and say Hello,; she asks me if I like any of the girls and I say I like you baby and I want you. See smiles (then she goes to the cash register and cashes out a customer) when she gets back she tell me she is the Masan and cashier and not working. We sit and talk more and I am feeling her up and I open her top a little to see her tits. She say " she is on her period and I do feel a pad. Next I tell her I will go sleep a little then go to a disco. So I left and took a motto to beach Road since it was about 9 pm. Beach road was lined with a lot of working women and I started to take 1 but I remember Soi 6 was close by. So I made my way down the Soi 6 being grabbed so many time (Soi 6 has some nice women) I walk the whole block and turn around looking for the girls that had caught my eye. I spoke with maybe 3 girls and I ask how much. Their quotes were 2000 baht and 400 baht for the room, the next girl said 1500 baht and 400 for the room (I kept walking). Then, I saw Tina again and I asked here how much for boom boom she says 1000 baht and 300 baht for the room. I say ok I we went to her bar (Desire Soi 6) I buy a drink and a lady drink and we talk then we head up to the room where she showers come back I started with her on top and then I was smashing her from behind. I finish in missionary. . the had long nipples and the body was nice. We exchanged number so we can meet up at Club Flex at 2 am. I left Soi 6 took a 60 baht motto to my place. I was saying to myself that I would take a hour sleep then go to mystic club or republic club but I didn't wake up until just now. I really wanted to see the go go and the club scene last night but I was too tired.