Dubai Reports

I just stumbled across this August 2007 article, written by an American expat woman in Dubai. It's been reproduced on many websites, with thousands of people debating the issues raised.

scribd.com/doc/267752/The-Top-20-Reasons-Not-to-Move-to-Dubai

Copy and paste the web address. I cannot post the direct link via my proxy server. (As the article says: 'Reason Number 2: 'The government blocks all web sites that it deems “offensive” ...').

Here's a bit more from the article:

'Reason 10. People stare at you. I am sick of being stared at. I’m stared at by men who have never seen a fair-skinned blue-eyed woman before, or who have and think we are all prostitutes so it’s okay to stare. They stare at me when I am fully covered or with my husband, and even follow me around. It’s beyond creepy and has brought me to tears on more than one occasion. The staring is not limited to men, either. I’m stared at angrily by female prostitutes who think I am running in on their territory by having a few drinks with my husband at the bar.

Reason 11. Prostitutes? Oh hell yes, there are prostitutes. Tons of them. So, let me get this straight, I can’t look at a naked picture of a person on the Internet in the privacy of my home, but it is okay to go out in public and buy a few for the night? ...'

[QUOTE=Piper1]I just stumbled across this August 2007 article, written by an American expat woman in Dubai. It's been reproduced on many websites, with thousands of people debating the issues raised.

scribd.com/doc/267752/The-Top-20-Reasons-Not-to-Move-to-Dubai

Copy and paste the web address. I cannot post the direct link via my proxy server. (As the article says: 'Reason Number 2: 'The government blocks all web sites that it deems “offensive” ...').

Here's a bit more from the article:

'Reason 10. People stare at you. I am sick of being stared at. I’m stared at by men who have never seen a fair-skinned blue-eyed woman before, or who have and think we are all prostitutes so it’s okay to stare. They stare at me when I am fully covered or with my husband, and even follow me around. It’s beyond creepy and has brought me to tears on more than one occasion. The staring is not limited to men, either. I’m stared at angrily by female prostitutes who think I am running in on their territory by having a few drinks with my husband at the bar.

Reason 11. Prostitutes? Oh hell yes, there are prostitutes. Tons of them. So, let me get this straight, I can’t look at a naked picture of a person on the Internet in the privacy of my home, but it is okay to go out in public and buy a few for the night? ...'[/QUOTE]

Interesting read Piper. Personally, I think some of the reasons mentioned come from just being a naive American in a foreign country. Hell, not all countries can be like Kansas - if they were, I would never leave home. The thing that bothered me the most when I was in Dubai was the blatant racism. It is beyond the pale and absolutely disgusting how non-whites are treated. I guess this woman did not mind the preferential treatment she was getting because of her skin color. I would have put racism as the number one reasons not to move to Dubai. It is completely institutionalized as far as I can tell. Fuck Dubai, I say -it is not getting any more of my money. No offense.

Cheers.

Why don't we find girls like this one here in Dubai.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=85324[/url]


Cheers Spelman

Spelman, I considered booking the first flight to Indonesia when I saw that photo! Absolute stunner, one of the most beautiful WG I've ever seen.

[QUOTE=Big Bob II]Spelman, I considered booking the first flight to Indonesia when I saw that photo! Absolute stunner, one of the most beautiful WG I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree she is a absolute stunner :)
Need to go for some hunting tonight ;)

Cheers Spelman

Went to Elegante a new club at the Royal Ascot hotel for the opening night.
As the named indicates it is a high end club, moslty couples there, but did spot couple of CIS top rank wg's there.
Watch out for this new outlet.....

. . . as the saying goes! - but I totally agree with you and Spelman and would volunteer to carry your bags.[QUOTE=Big Bob II]Spelman, I considered booking the first flight to Indonesia when I saw that photo! Absolute stunner, one of the most beautiful WG I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]Browsing through the Indonesian thread earlier this year, I felt a mild electric shock as I saw the high quality of flange there is over there.

Here are the ones that that set my pulse racing:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=610723&postcount=249[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=72519[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=666743&postcount=593[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79974[/url]

[QUOTE=Crypton] Interesting read Piper. Personally, I think some of the reasons mentioned come from just being a naive American in a foreign country. Hell, not all countries can be like Kansas - if they were, I would never leave home. The thing that bothered me the most when I was in Dubai was the blatant racism. It is beyond the pale and absolutely disgusting how non-whites are treated. I guess this woman did not mind the preferential treatment she was getting because of her skin color. I would have put racism as the number one reasons not to move to Dubai. It is completely institutionalized as far as I can tell. Fuck Dubai, I say -it is not getting any more of my money. No offense.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Crypton. The article was probably written by a pampered US woman sitting in her oversized villa while her overpaid husband was at work and her underpaid Filipina maid looked after the kids in a far part of the villa. I also agree that racism is institutionalized in Dubai. When I left Australia for Dubai six years ago, I asked one of my girlfriends to come visit and stay with me some time. She was a middle-class Sri Lankan with delicious big hooters, a plump ass and a pompous British accent. Alas, she told me there's no way she would come to Dubai. I didn't understand why at the time, but now I do.

I still remember her favorite saying in bed: "Oh yes darling! Fock me hard! Fock me hard! I just want to eat you up!"

But I digress.

I'll be in Dubai mid Febuary, would like some vet's to recommend some talent.POC's would be apreciated, but a finger in the right direction would work too. thanks!

I have told "Your Royal Excellency, Sir Cuntwat" , AKA Piper1, many times that he needs a LAYover in Indonesia, on his way down under, but this has yet to happen. Maybe these pics will tip the scale. It is heaven down here. But sssshhhhh, don't tell anyone.


[QUOTE=Spelman]Why don't we find girls like this one here in Dubai.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=85324[/url]


Cheers Spelman[/QUOTE]

Thursday, had sms'd Miss A-lister for a Friday "reservation". Confirmed. However, Friday night, when I enquired as to when she'd arrive, got the dreaded "trumped" reply, "how about tomorrow?" Can't get too upset, not like I'm a regular, a semi-regular; I'm in the 'once in a blue moon' category. :) At least she let me know EARLY, so plenty of time to make alternate plans...

[b]Rattlesnake, Friday, 22:30 - 01:00[/b]
35 dhs, no drink included. Thanks to Piper, counted my change - no problems. :) (what the forum is for).

Inside, place crowded, but not overly so. Mostly PRC, some blacks, a few CIS. Of course, the 3 on my target list NOT in attendence. Why am I surprised at that?

Get a drink, pleasantly surprised at the a)minimal fight to the bar, and b)prompt attention (well, on the 'Snake scale of things...)

Looking around, see 2 alternate targets: one I've talked to before, the other new-to-me. Try the one I've talked with - did anyone else notice the ARTIC chill around 10:45 last night? BLIZZARD conditions. If she's answering you with 1 syllable replies, it's either a)not interested, or b)little english. But when she walks away... that's (a) for sure. Maybe I shouldn't have laughed last time at her 1000 dhs "offer". For me, I thank her silently (after all, she's walked away) for saving me 700 dhs... With an attitude like that, would hate to see her accept...

On to door #2. Here, it's also minimal answers, but at least there's eye contact. I'm leaning towards reason (b), especially as she's been here 4 days (this, I believe). LIMITED marketing from her side, it's still early, so when she disappears upstairs, I don't try and stop her.

See Canary - you know things are bad when she says even she has stayed in a couple of days, 'just to be safe'. I scold her for NOT calling me... I'll gladly make a contribution to her retirement fund...

Nothing of interest downstairs, so up I go, given that Smoker (1 of the 3 original targets) often loiters upstairs. She's not there, but Miss New-to-Me is. Go over, chat. Where's her place? (so I can compute the 'transportation' costs - taxi fee or my time). Bur dubai or Diera? She doesn't say, just that she lives "close". Good. Miss NTM is friendly, so I ask if she's interested in spending the night with me. Her reply is direct, "how much you pay?" Enough english for that, anyway. :) I ask her how much she wants, and she surprises me. Instead of the 'how much you want/how much you pay' dance, she gives me a direct answer, "1000". Doesn't anyone want to start out at the entrance level salary anymore? Everyone wants to start as VP?

Yea, well, that's not going to happen; I just give her a no thank you. She doesn't ask for a counter offer, and I drift away. If I'm going to part with 1k, might as well be with someone who CAN command that salary - sms another of the prime targets. Surprised when she quickly answers - she's "outside".

OK, I know what "outside" means in wg, but I need some fresh air anyway, so step out to the porch. Surprise, she's not there - would have had a heart attack if she was. sms confirm - yes, she's busy tonight, but she does have a gf, 'new girl, just arrive, beautiful like me [always cringe when they say that, even if true; no need to state the obvious], knows massage... if you want, can send her over." Sorry, only time I take home delivery is when I know the product... I decline.

But there's Miss NTM, getting something to eat. 30 dhs for a hamburger outside - the 'Snake has NO shame. She offers me half, but I decline - I know the quality of food there. She disappears back inside.

I step back into the scrum. See another Cyclone a-lister, haven't seen for years. Dimples to die for, with a price to match. One of those, if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it :)

Fight my way to the bar - a rather stunning, blonde, CIS, mature but certainly still maintaining the looks, there. Her x-ray vision sees my wallet, so I don't even rate a contemptuous look (I'm always amazed at how they know...)

Time marches on. As I've said, I like when the band takes a break - I like the trance music more (but pass on the hip-hop). Spot Miss NTM in the back, step over... She reiterates her 1000 offer, but this time sweetens it with a "2 girls..." Yea, but no departure time specified, and while her gf is nice, they just don't seem the type to "parallel" process...

I decline, but now she asks what my salary offer is. Sorry, guys. My to-do list is overflowing, it's getting late, and she's the only one I've seen that is really "interesting". I offer a very respectable 700. She immediately counters with 800. Nice try, but at that level, 100 IS a deal breaker. I say no, she says 'OK, let's go', Even though I'm on the downslope of life, that inner child rears his head: I'll just take my ball and go home. I give her a shrug - she leaves.

Watching her leave, I shift back into "adult" mode, but the crowd has swallowed her up (how does it do that so well). I take the 'high' road, but have lost sight of her. Step outside to grab some air (NICE night last night, not cold at all). Here they come, but retreat to the far end of the patio. Check my options, give a Seaview to-repeat girl a call - no answer. 12:30, not surprising.

Only 1 thing to do - the mountain moves. Walking up, her back's to me. I give her a "last chance, you want to go?" She turns, phone in hand, english conversation going on, shushing me. It's "Where you from? How you get my number? What hotel you stay? You want 2 girls?" I still have SOME pride left, I'm not going to hang around as a safety net, so I walk back to the entrance. Big decision now - stay here, or take my chances at York?

Miss NTM walks past alone, disappears inside. I figure she'll pick up her purse, and I can watch her disappear up that long walk of disappointment and lost chances (or the path to the parking lot, whatever).

When she doesn't reappear, I step inside. Might as well take a look, grab somebody from there. She's just inside the door. I repeat my question, she says yes, and off we go.

note: just goes to show, even with a contact number, without the 'proper' answers, doesn't do any good.

Back home, luckily enough, she has one of the "sentence" translators, so I can explain about my house "guest". She's concerned, but I convince her there won't be a problem.

The problem arises when she tells me where she lives - I've not heard of the "vicinity" hotel, but when she shows me the card - I do recognize Clock Tower on the map. FMTT - Diera. So much for "close"; taxi it is.

Fun girl, but LIMITED menu - I'll have to speak to her mentor about the lack of 'schooling'... If she wants to stand the competition, hope she's a fast learner. Plus points for her sense of humor: when I tell her I'm tired due to my chasing her all evening, she replies, "no, she was chasing me, I just didn't know it." If someone wanted to spend some time, she'd make a damn nice gf, and worth a repeat from me.

[b]Summary[/b]
'Snake doesn't disappoint, even with a number of faces absent. The "usual" faces there, certainly some top-notch PRC. The mature blonde CIS definitely worth consideration, she obviously looking for the dapper, older gentleman.... Well, I qualify in ONE respect :) Other than that, remaining CIS didn't do anything for me (YMMV). Blacks in all shapes/sizes, if that's your thing.

[QUOTE=Mac925]... but a finger in the right direction would work too. [/QUOTE]Now would I give anyone "a" finger? "The" maybe :)

Search Spelman, or take a look at the Reports of Distinction thread.

Dear All,

Firstly, a huge thanks to all on this board, without whom life in Dubai would not have been as 'spicy' as otherwise might have been the case. It was on this forum that I 'researched' and picked up hints and tips on how, when and where to go. A HUGE thank you to everyone.

As a regular traveller through Dubai, I've made a routine out of staying at the Four Points Sheraton - taking a right-turn out of the main entrance, walking a few yards and hitting what can only be described as one of the most incredible scenes anywhere in the middle-east (aka the York). I'm not really a great 'window-shopper' and so tend to go for the first pair of jugs that come my way, hence the lack of variety in my mongering hangouts.

I've never really made a great fuss out of my adventures, and maybe with hindsight, I should have done a bit more; given all that I've learn't from here - giving a little back may be due from my part. Even if my 'routine' is the same everytime !!

I am a real sucker (pardon the pun) for enormous racks, and have made life very easy for myself by meeting a Turkish girl at the York whenever I travel. I'm not really at liberty to give out her name - simply because she gives me a different name everytime I see her. Don't know why she does this, but promised the prospect of JJ-cup boobs in my face I don't really complain !! (To be brutally honest - I still can't even remember what she looks like. Her boobs tend to take up what little attention span I have.)

I have also tried across the road, but given my experience, it can be very hit-and-miss there, so I tend to stick to the York for pure size in numbers (and size in racks too).

Now there is a problem. I've not been into Dubai since late August, and recent reports about the 4-points GF status, combined with the fact that there are no rooms available for 29th to 31st December, I'm having to stay at the Crowne Plaza. Can any members help me. I've tried searching through the forum, and know that there is the Zinc at the CP, but I do not know what kind of girls I'm likely to find there.

Help needed:

1) How easy is it really to get a girl up to your room?

2) Are fewer/no questions asked if a 'deal is done' at the Zinc?

3) Anybody know of any contacts, or girls with enormous racks that would be available around end December?

4) Are there any mongering venues within walking distance of the CP?

I would really like to diversify away from the York now, and would appreciate any help/guidance anybody would like to offer.

Thanks in advance.

I will pop up there after a meeting (around 2200 I guess).I intend to meet a big breasted chinese that 50/50 introduce to me some time ago... but believe it or not SHE DOES NOT REMEMBER ME!!!!!

My heart is so broken. Well let see if some remedial sessions can arrange that.

In the meantime if anybody will be around I will be glad to meet and share a drink.

[QUOTE=Zing Uk]What's the deal[/quote]
[b]Do we charge them rent?[/b]
I won't. She, without me asking, cooks and cleans. Fair exchange for me.

[b]Do we expect freebies for sheltering them?[/b]
I'm [b]OLD[/b] school. I keep [size=3][b]P[/b][/size]4P separate from helping out a friend/my hospitality. First night she did offer to "make sure I was 'happy'" before she left for the 'office', but I passed. Something about trading sex for a place to live is just more exploitation than I'm comfortable with. Now, the massage, I DO accept...

I'd hope, situation reversed, someone would offer me a helping hand, to me or a family member, especially if it was in a foreign, HOSTILE environment.

No white knight syndrome, just a bit of the good samaritan. Besides, if Budha is right, I might have a chance at coming back as something higher than an ant - dragonfly maybe?

[b]Do you still need to pay but get a discount?[/b]
Like I said, I pay, FULL amount. Yes, I'm doing her a favor, but, again, old school, I don't "taint" my favors.

[b]What is the risk to us getting the old heave ho?[/b]
From the 'authorities'? As long as she's smart enough to know how to act, I think minimal (but I do live in the suburbs - trophy wife, daughter, or maid safe here). And it's 1 girl, obviously no business at home. She leaves after 10, arrives back as any civilian would, certainly not lingering outside. For me, minimal risk.

[b]What is the value of that risk?[/b]
Less than the risk to my conscience if I had said no, and she'd been busted at home... THAT I would feel guilty about.

[b]Do they still go out and work?[/b]
She does. Not happy about that; I had originally thought she was looking for a place to hole up, hide. But I can understand the necessity of cash flow, and I certainly can't provide it daily.

My answer? You do what you can.